I really enjoy Daisy being able to identify that she “wants to be better”. She is finally able to acknowledge that she wasn’t the best person. She made so many mistakes, and she owns up; she WANTS to be better, at her core.
@@micah2879 so interesting to see where and when people who are to be avatars or are touched by entities have the choice to surrender to it or fight it, like oliver did when he died, like john did in his coma and now daisy is actively trying to seperate herself from the Hunts traction
It really is baffling to see people hate Daisy _just_ because she was a cop, as if people can't end up on the wrong path in life, let alone choose to be better after recognizing that. The whole "once a pig always a pig" mentality some fans have towards her is really annoying and, frankly, immature. Even then, Daisy wasn't _that_ kind of cop. She was a section 31 officer. The people and "things" she killed were probably better off dead. She admits to accidentally killing an innocent person ONCE, which is a tragedy but she clearly felt guilt over it. People don't hate Trevor because he accidentally killed a non-vampire once. I think TMA tastefully criticized corrupt police with Daisy's character while avoiding making her a completely unforgivable one at the same time. She was an officer, and enjoyed hurting people, but she was also a section 31 so she only really hurt cultists and monsters, presumably. And the enjoyment came from being marked by The Hunt. If anything, the flawed characters in TMA are a good reminder that you can forgive while not forgetting. Or, rather, you can not forgive an action while forgiving the person.
@eathotchipandlie6083 Perhaps you have never been on the other end of a violent, powerful, power abusing cop? You might not find the sentiment quite so immature if you had.
Ik I'm late but like yeah... Like he really cares for his assistants. Unlike fucking Gertrude who shoved Micheal into a door and made Gerry into a book with little to no remorse from what I can't tell
Jon and Daisy's relationship is so interesting. I mean, Jon was still willing to try to save her, evenwhen se tried to kill him before and he could not know if she would attack him again on sight or not.
@@leomorris7573 yup. I think he really wants to get some people back, maybe show his will combined with the eye's help isn't totally evil. They will possibly need eachother for whatever terror comes next.
And I think it's hard for Jon to be faced with the coffin, knowing that she is down there suffering, and not do anything about it (for all that everyone says his powers are "evil", he seems determined to utilize them for good)
Oh my God! That part at the beginning where John is like “ all you lose is…” He’s feeling so unwelcome and unloved by his colleagues that he genuinely thinks it wouldn’t be a big deal if he got lost in the buried… Will somebody give this poor man a hug already!
Jon: I know what I'm doing. Jon: I think. Jon: No, it's fine. This is fine. This will work. Jon 10 min later: Oh crap oh crap oh no no no I made a mistake The Eye: Why do I put up with you, get back here.
I like the narrative the fans have that the eye basically picked Jon up like a scraggly stray cat & said “this is the one” and has regretted it ever since
Jon sees the pros and cons of a situation, but determines that “possible self-sacrifice” isn’t important because he has very little self-worth and the people at the archives usually beat him up any time he tries his hardest. Maybe it’s projection on my part but I know the workings of my own mind (and do not fix the issues)
you can say whatever you want about daisy but she is the first person to accept that jon isnt human anymore. she literally said she doesnt care and i know for a fact that our archivist appreciated that
Me, when I first started listening: Ah yes, a nice audiobook to fall asleep to. Nicely written. Quite interesting. Me, now, listening to it nonstop while playing Minecraf: oh dear Lord Jon went into the goddamn coffin where is Martin why is everbody angry at him what is Lukas' plan and please for the love of god just give me some happy gay love AND NOW HE'S STUCK THE IDIOT
Me: Ah yes! A nice lovely Podcast to listen while studying. Nice to listen to, does take too much my attention, perfect background noise for my ADHD brain Later: I have unfortunately fallen into a trap
a commenter on an earlier episode said they imagined jon was wearing one of those highly specific, targeted ad t-shirts from facebook like “sorry, i’m a grandma to four children, i was born in january, i’m from texas, i love horses, i hate stupid people, don’t mess with me”
@@faxonii I remember that comment!! It’s so strange to see it referenced multiple episodes later by someone else.. I wonder whether there’s fanart of Jon in that shirt somewhere online 😂💀
Daisy’s voice acting in this really _killed it._ Everyone is always amazing, of course, but the stuttering and the weakness in Daisy’s voice this episode really struck me. Also, let’s hope for a Daisy redemption arc !!
The flesh statement before gave him the inspiration, but it's also easier to think of an actual part of your body as an anchor. At this point in the story Jon's connection with the eye wasn't as strong or he wasn't as aware of it at least, and probably didn't see the tapes as an actual Part of himself.
Probably because the recorder, altough part of his manifestation and powers of the Eye, are not estrictly his enough to be attached as we have seen him change it more than 3 times
MINOR SHORT-TERM SPOILER: Actually, the recorder IS the Anchor. Jon just assumes his rib was, but his connection got stronger after all the other tape recorders show up, courtesy of Martin helping from the shadows. It's mentioned in a conversation between him and Peter Lukas later.
If you want an actual answer and haven't progressed yet, SPOILER: It was actually Martin. He placed all the tape recorders around the coffin and his rib to help Jon get back, Peter calls him out on it in a later episode.
@@Ghostrecall_M Jon: no, really, I mean you just- Coffin: you know, I'm a part of this too- Jon: no, I know, but- Coffin: its fine. Its fine just...*sigh, come on then
Like, same. I've been in a cave really, I wasn't scared, though it was really small. But everytime there is The Buried episode, it is the one that scares me.
This is the episode that's turned me over to liking Daisy. It showed such an interesting side to her. Though I can't help but see parallels between her and Jon. They're both being pulled away from who they were by the fears, I think Daisy might've realized that while she was talking about the hunt.
I liked her at first because she seemed like a pos cop, but she was still willing to give Jon her statement. Then it turned out that was Jon's Archivist powers and I disliked her. Now I have no choice but to like her again!
jeez i wanted daisy to suffer a lil bit but this was a BIG bit :/ jon continues to be incredibly selfless and only getting insults and threats in return..! love that
Honestly? I think this is one of my favorite episodes so far. First of all the voice acting is astounding, as always, but it absolutely glows in this episode from everyone. I was having difficulty breathing *listening* to them, the little squeaks as they try to gasp for breath, I actually had to take my blanket off it all felt too *real*. And Daisy's fear felt genuine. Not seeing someone for so long, just trapped like that, you can really hear her terror and relief at knowing someone else is there. Very, very well done
It’s really nice to hear that daisy wants to be better but it’s still pretty rich to hear all these avatars judging Jon for losing his humanity lmfao. Like he’s literally trying as hard as possible to hold on to it, more so than the rest of them seem to. Daisy included. Still, I really hope she’ll back him up, the man needs someone on his side 😭 (Also did she always have a little bit of an accent? Scottish or Irish maybe? I never noticed it)
@@lilaboxx It's been six months and I've finished the podcast but my views have changed and now I love Peter Lukas even roleplay as him in a discord chat (always loved Elias though that's an issue I'm trying to resolve) xD
The Buried i'm not claustrophobic myself, but even I'm unnerved by cramped spaces. I do know a guy who LOVES cramped spaces though. Sleeps under a couple of heavy blankets to "emulate the feeling of a womb". We get along pretty good. Anyway... the Buried is pretty close to the End. Most religions, especially Abrahamic ones, specify the dead need to be buried. Though I believe where the End and the Buried split apart in the spectrum is for the fact that the latter prefers it's victims alive and stuck for eternity. It feeds on helplessness. That much is obvious. What isn't immediately obvious is the fact that the Buried is a Labyrinth. Like Tartarus. It's a prison. It is the weight of your every regret. Every embarrassment. Every failure. The weight of the World on your shoulders, except this World is one of your making. And it is no paradise. like some abstract guilt-tottin' Atlas wannabe.
Oh, great. They're redeeming Daisy. To murder her in the next couple of episodes, no doubt. And I WILL cry. Well played. Well. Played. Why do I imagine the tape recorders scratching at the coffin's lid and howling like sad puppies bc their master left them? Or maybe there's nothing supernatural about their appearance. Melanie and Basira just said screw it and started bringing tape recorders to the scene instead of candles and flowers to honour the memory of Jon, The Stupid Idiot. Or they were trying to make a summoning ritual. Just two dozen tape recorders, arranged neatly around a lonely rib. Martin walks in on them and is...very unsettled by the scene, to say the least. Speaking of, the Archive Boyfriends are really going places, huh. They were like 95% of each other's impulse control, which means that Martin is now just a little bit sassier and doesn't know what's good for him, while Jon is completely unhinged and will die within 2 days if Martin doesn't do anything about it stat.
Ikk, I a d o r e theorizing about if artifacts/being marked by a fear could protect you from an opposing fear. Like, say, a lonely artifact/person to prevent flesh hives ? Or an eye artifact to bring into the distortions halls ? Or maybe eye would work better with dark xD
Well, we've seen that The Eye can counteract the effects of The Stranger. Even if Jon couldn't see through the Unknowing, he could make Tim see by asking him a question. I wonder if he had just asked himself what he saw, if he could've snapped out of it the same way?
"I know what I'm doing this time" no you fucking don't! that said, even for me, who likes pressure and tight spaces in a way, god this episode was hard. So well made. I could feel my chest tightening up and my throat getting dry
I wonder if the reason they chose The Buried for being the fear Daisy would be trapped in was because while she was there the realisation of how terrible of a person shes been and the magnitude of her actions (whether influenced by The Hunt or not) hits her and so guilt begins to weigh down on her to the point it would feel like shes being crushed (except in this case she actually is at times).
Dude this episode made my breathing shallow, they was they did the voice acting was so real! I'm not too bad in small spaces as long as I'm not in there too long, but this awoke something in me as did the "alternate perspective" episode about space, I guess I dont like vast or cramped spaces... but props to rusty quill for making this so immersive that I felt trapped myself
[INT. MAGNUS INSTITUTE, ARCHIVES, COFFIN ROOM] [TAPE CLICKS ON.] [THE ARCHIVIST SIGHS.] ARCHIVIST (under his breath) Alright. [HE HITS PLAY ON A DIFFERENT TAPE.] DAISY (ON TAPE) […] Was a coffin. An old, wooden coffin. Rough, unvarnished. I could see splinters where the nails had been hammered in badly. Wrapped all around it was a thick metal chain ending in a heavy padlock. That weird moaning was coming from inside it. It was the only sound that cut through pounding rain. [THE ARCHIVIST CLICKS DAISY’S TAPE OFF, AND EJECTS IT FROM THE PLAYER. WE HEAR HIM PUT A FRESH TAPE INTO WHAT MUST BE A PLAYER/RECORDER. HE CLICKS IT ON. HE TAKES A LONG, SHAKY BREATH, STEELING HIMSELF FOR WHATEVER IS TO COME.] ARCHIVIST Hello, Melanie. I.. know I said we’d wait until Basira was back, b, but I, I don’t… (heavy sigh) I-I’m sorry. I, I-I know she won’t - (sigh) She’d want to do it a different way. But I know what I’m doing; this time I do. I, I hope. I have her voice. I think that should be enough to find her, and, and I’m leaving my - (can’t say it) I’ll leave it with the tape. I should be able to find my back to it. I think. (pause) Wish me luck. …Although, I suppose if you’re hearing this, then I.. I didn’t have any. I don’t know. I, I’m - (slight pause) I’m scared? (dry laugh) When does the fear go away? (pause) A-Anyway, I’m sorry. You too, Basira, if you’re hearing this. (pause) I know you’d - stop me. You’d be right to, but - but if this goes wrong, all you lose is - (abrupt) I’m not risking anyone else. And I know - (pause) I-I think. I can get her out. [HE CLICKS THE TAPE OFF.] ARCHIVIST (CONT’D) Right. You’re coming with me. [HE SIGHS.] ARCHIVIST (CONT’D) Let’s do this one properly. [WE HEAR A STATIC BEGIN TO RISE; IT’S FROM THE COFFIN.] ARCHIVIST (CONT’D) No need for that. I’m willing. [THE STATIC FADES AWAY AS IMMEDIATELY AS IT CAME.] ARCHIVIST (CONT’D) Right. [HE LIFTS THE PADLOCK, AND THE CHAIN RATTLES AS HE PULLS IT OFF AND THEY FALL TO THE FLOOR. THEN WE HEAR THE OMINOUS RATTLING CREAK AS HE PULLS OPEN THE LID OF THE COFFIN.] [HE CLICKS ON A TORCH.] ARCHIVIST (CONT’D) (slightly shaky) Stone steps. Roughly hewn. (slight pause) They, uh… They keep going. (brave face) Well. No point in waiting. [WE CAN HEAR HIS BREATH SHAKE SLIGHTLY AS HE STEPS INTO THE ECHOING COFFIN. THE LID CLOSES ABOVE HIM ALMOST IMMEDIATELY WITH A HOLLOW THUMP.] ARCHIVIST (CONT’D) Christ. [HE TAKES A DEEP, SHAKY BREATH, AS WELL AS A FEW STEPS.] [TAPE CLICKS OFF.] [INT. COFFIN] [TAPE CLICKS ON.] [WHEN THE ARCHIVIST SPEAKS, HIS VOICE SOUNDS STRAINED, AS IF HE’S UNDER SOME SORT OF INTENSE PRESSURE. WE HEAR HIS CLOTHES RUSTLE AS HE MOVES.] ARCHIVIST I’m not sure how long it’s been. The steps ended, eventually. There’s passages, but - it’s very, uh… It’s close. I’m having some trouble, but. I’m going the right way. I know it. I just - I-I just need to keep moving. When I stop, it - [HE GRUNTS, TAKES ANOTHER STEP.] ARCHIVIST (CONT’D) (even more strained) It starts to - p-press on me. [MORE RUSTLING.] ARCHIVIST (CONT’D) Just keep going. [TAPE CLICKS OFF.] [TAPE CLICKS ON.] ARCHIVIST (CONT’D) I-I can’t stand. Anymore. I - It’s - It’s not a passage. Not anymore. It’s a tunnel. [THE RUSTLING NOISES GET LOUDER FOR A SECOND.] ARCHIVIST (CONT’D) Barely that. But I’m - I’m definitely getting closer. (strained) If I can just - [THE RUSTLING INCREASES IN VOLUME AND INTENSITY AS THE ARCHIVIST MAKES A FEW SOUNDS OF EXERTION. FINALLY, HE MAKES IT THROUGH WHATEVER TIGHT SPACE HAD BEEN HOLDING HIM BACK, AND HE LETS OUT A NOISE OF RELIEF.] ARCHIVIST (CONT’D) My torch is broken. I didn’t even drop it. It - It got caught against the wall, and - [MORE RUSTLING.] ARCHIVIST (CONT’D) Crushed. God, I - (inhale) I don’t even know how long I’ve been here. [TAPE CLICKS OFF.] [TAPE CLICKS ON.] [THE ARCHIVIST’S VOICE IS MUCH CLOSER AND DEFINITELY RASPIER.] ARCHIVIST (CONT’D) I - heard someone. He was begging off of me to save him. Said he couldn’t breathe. (slight pause, gasp) I can barely breathe. I couldn’t find him. But I am - (strained) not here for him. I don’t know him. I can’t - I can’t see anything here. For all this place closes around me, I-I feel a drift. Like nothing can get through the dirt and the muck and - [HE LOSES HIMSELF TO THE MOVING FOR A SECOND.] ARCHIVIST (CONT’D) I still have Daisy’s tape. And I still think I’m going the right way. When I move at all. [THE RUSTLING GETS LOUDER AND THE MOTION MORE JERKY.] ARCHIVIST (CONT’D) Feels like every inch costs me another scrape, o-or bruise. (inhale, his voice sounds more normal) I’d hoped I was beyond that, but apparently not. And - [HE LETS OUT A VERY PAINED SOUND.] ARCHIVIST (CONT’D) The air is heavy. Soil and dust. I am - very thirsty. But I know I won’t die of it. (moving again) I won’t die of anything down here. Not ever. Not if I - can’t find my way out. When I first came down, I could feel it, the - the part of myself I left outside, but - (inhale) But it’s been getting fainter and now… I’ll try not to think about it. Don’t - Don’t want to stretch my mind, to try and see, in case it’s not there at all. I can’t afford to think about it. Not now. [TAPE CLICKS OFF.]
[TAPE CLICKS ON.] [WE ARE IMMEDIATELY GREETED WITH THE ARCHIVIST’S CRY OF PAIN.] ARCHIVIST (CONT’D) I-I think - (more cries) Oh god. I-I-I think I’m-I’m stuck. [TAPE CLICKS OFF.] [TAPE CLICKS ON.] [HE’S STILL STUCK. WE CAN TELL BY THE EXTREMELY LABORED CRIES OF PAIN. BUT THEN HE STOPS. HE’S CUT OFF BY - A ROLL OF THUNDER?] ARCHIVIST (CONT’D) Wha-What? [THE DRONING RUMBLING CONTINUES, AND AS THE ARCHIVIST TAKES SEVERAL SHAKY BREATHS OF SURPRISE, IT GETS LOUDER.] ARCHIVIST (CONT’D) (whisper) Oh no. N - [THERE’S A CRACK, AND WHAT SOUNDS LIKE A LANDSLIDE, IF YOU COULD FIND A LANDSLIDE INSIDE A COFFIN. THE ARCHIVIST YELLS, MAKES SEVERAL STRANGLED SOUNDS, FOLLOWED BY MANY MORE SOUNDS OF PAIN.] ARCHIVIST (CONT’D) Daisy! J - DAISY! [MORE SOUNDS OF STRUGGLE.] DAISY (from far away) John! [TAPE CLICKS OFF.] [TAPE CLICKS ON.] ARCHIVIST Daisy, can you reach me? DAISY (is this a dream?) I can’t. Can’t see you. ARCHIVIST Follow my voice. DAISY Is that? - I, I can’t - [PAINED SOUND FROM THE ARCHIVIST.] ARCHIVIST Ah - DAISY You - You’re real. You’re real. ARCHIVIST Yes. (pain) I’m here, Daisy. DAISY (still hazy) Daisy. Yeah. Daisy. That’s me. [SHE LETS OUT A SHORT, MIRTHLESS LAUGH.] ARCHIVIST Are you alright? DAISY I, I, I can’t move; I - I can’t - And I can’t - breathe, and - [SHE STARTS BREATHING HEAVIER.] ARCHIVIST Oh, god. DAISY Just - alone. I, I think. I think. I hear, uh, this, sometimes - singing. When it’s we - when it’s wet. Or scratching, trying to get out - But I don’t - I don’t - (struggling to get the words out) I don’t think there’s - there’s anyone - there. (continues struggling) It’s just - It’s just - me. Til now. ARCHIVIST Are you… Are you okay? DAISY No. ARCHIVIST Sorry. Obviously. No, I just meant - Y, You sound- okay. DAISY Do I? ARCHIVIST I thought you might’ve been - taken over. By the Hunt. DAISY What? ARCHIVIST The Hunt. You’re a Hunter. DAISY (strained) Yeah - I guess I was. But- not here. ARCHIVIST No. DAISY N-no. I- I can’t f-feel my blood. I could always feel it- I can’t, It can’t reach me here. (struggles) Where are we? ARCHIVIST The coffin. We’re in the coffin. I-It leads to… Well, it’s got a lot of names. Choke. The Buried. (pain) Too-Close-I-Cannot-Breathe. DAISY Yeah. Sounds - sounds right. ARCHIVIST Come on. (pain) Let’s get you out of here. DAISY Can’t - can’t move. Even - if I - if I could. There’s no way out. ARCHIVIST It’s okay, I’ve uh - I’ve got a plan. DAISY I-Is this like all your other plans? ARCHIVIST It’s fine; I just - I just need to - to find it. DAISY What? ARCHIVIST Come on. Come on, where are you? DAISY John? ARCHIVIST Come on. [A LARGE, LOW RUMBLING BEGINS. THE ARCHIVIST BREATH TURNS RAGGED. THERE’S A STATIC.] DAISY John? ARCHIVIST I know. DAISY Th-The way out? ARCHIVIST No. I know where we are. There isn’t no out, not here. This is- This is forever deep below creation. Where the weight of existence bears down. This is The Buried, and we are alive. There isn’t even an up. Oh god. (pain) What have I done? [SILENCE, BUT FOR DAISY’S BREATHING.] DAISY N-Not alone, though. ARCHIVIST (barely a whisper) No. No, not alone. [MORE SILENCE.] DAISY John? ARCHIVIST (immediately) Still here. DAISY Good, I - (swallows) Good. I- I- I- I want to talk. ARCHIVIST Okay, um. What do you want to talk about? DAISY D - I, I don’t care, I- I- I just, I just want someone to hear me.
ARCHIVIST Well, I’m not going anywhere. [DAISY’S BREATHING APPROACHES A PANICKED LAUGH, AND SHE’S NOT ABLE TO GET OUT MORE THAN A FEW SYLLABLES.] ARCHIVIST (CONT’D) Daisy? DAISY I, I want to, but it’s - difficult. ARCHIVIST Would it help if I - a-ask? DAISY Y-Yeah, yes, alright. Do your… thing. ARCHIVIST (pain) Right. (he clears his throat) Uh… [HIS TRADEMARK STATIC BEGINS TO BUILD.] ARCHIVIST (CONT’D) How are you feeling? DAISY Scared. I, I’m, I’m, s-scared. I’ve been scared the whole time here. Not just when it- when it’s - cr-crushing, w-when it f-fills your - your mouth with- with di-dirt. (pause) It knows when to stop. W-When to e-ease back, so you don’t - don’t lose it, or grow numb. L-Leaves you terrified for when it s-starts again, and when it does, y-you’re, you’re s-scared it’ll - (sniff) never - never stop. (on the brink of crying) I thought- thought I’d (breath) I’d ne-never see the sky again, never - (close to breaking) never s-see Basira - (she composes herself) But - But - But now - you - you’ve got out of, of, of other stuff like this; maybe, maybe you’ll get out of this, and, and then take me with you. (heavy breathing) But I don’t know what I’ll be out, outside. (pause) The-The Hunt, it can’t reach me here. I’m s-scared, but - mm - (straining sound) But I - I feel more - feel more me… than I have for years. Maybe all my life. The Hunt was me - (strain) But I don’t - I don’t think I liked it. I think it just made me - need it. (strain) I hurt. A lot of people. And some who - who I shouldn’t have. (effort) Did you ever hear the story Elias told me? About what I - did. How I am. He - He didn’t get a detail wrong. The Hunt. Hunger was in me all my life. Telling me who to chase. How to hurt them. (heavy breathing) I never needed to think. Who I was outside of that. But down here, where I-I can’t hear the - blood, anymore. I, I don’t - I don’t know who I am without, without the chase. I just know that I - I don’t like who I was, back outside. I don’t want to be her again. I want - to be - better. (breathing) Mmm - (more breathing) Y-You know what I thought, when I woke up here? I thought this was hell. I wa- I was dead, and I was in hell. And I - (sob) I knew I deserved it. (strain) I don’t want t-to b,be a s-sadistic predator again. I-I don’t want to hobble around like some - pathetic wounded prey here. I don’t know which would be worse. But I’m sc-scared now. That I won’t ever get the choice. ARCHIVIST (pain) One thing I’ve learned, Daisy, is that we all get a choice. Even if it doesn’t feel like one. [PAUSE.] DAISY I was gonna kill you. You know that, right? [THE ARCHIVIST LAUGHS, AS MUCH AS HE CAN, CURRENT SITUATION CONSIDERED.] ARCHIVIST I mean, I definitely got that impression when you (pain) dragged me into the woods for an execution. [ANOTHER SOUND OF PAIN.] DAISY No. (heh) No. After the mission. I was planning to kill you. ARCHIVIST I… I did not know that. DAISY I realized - you were in my dreams. R-R-Reliving - this. T-The coffin. You were there. ARCHIVIST Yes. DAISY Didn’t think it was real. Not really. Just my mind putting you there, because I hated you, but no. One night, you turn up in a new shirt. Didn’t fit you. Not your style. (shaky breath) I-I didn’t think much of it, just a-a dream. Then you come back from the States, and guess what you’re wearing. ARCHIVIST Oh. DAISY (overlapping) Realized what was happening then. Realized you weren’t human. Needed to die, as soon as it was safe. Never mind Elias, and his… insurance. ARCHIVIST And now? DAISY Don’t know. I- I miss dreaming. You don’t sleep, down here. ARCHIVIST Daisy - you should know, I-I’m - (he chooses his words carefully) I-If I wasn’t human before, I’m, uh - I’m even less now. [IN THE BACKGROUND, THE RUMBLING SOUND OF THE BURIED IS DRIVING BACK UP IN FULL FORCE.] DAISY Yeah. Well. At the moment, I don’t care. ARCHIVIST And if we get out? DAISY But we can’t get out. ARCHIVIST No. [THE ARCHIVIST CRIES OUT AGAIN AS THE WRATH OF THE BURIED COMES BACK FULL FORCE. DAISY DOES NOT YELL, BUT HER BREATHS GET EVEN MORE LABOURED, AND SHE STRAINS OUT A FEW SYLLABLES.] DAISY I’m s - I’m sorry. I’m sorry, John. I’m sorry. [TAPE CLICKS OFF.] [TAPE CLICKS ON.] [THE ARCHIVIST LETS OUT A BREATH OF SURPRISE.] ARCHIVIST D-Daisy! DAISY Uh - I’m, I’m here. ARCHIVIST I- I can- [THE ARCHIVIST’S OWN STATIC BEGINS TO RISE.] ARCHIVIST (CONT’D) It’s - It - It’s closer. DAISY What is? ARCHIVIST M-My, My, My anchor, my - the, oh, [THE BASS (STATIC) DROPS IN.] ARCHIVIST (CONT’D) a rib; I can f - I can feel - I know the way. [VARIOUS GASPING NOISES THAT MAY ALSO BE ‘WH-‘S FROM DAISY. THE ARCHIVIST BEGINS TO MOVE.] DAISY W-What? H-How? ARCHIVIST I don’t - (strain) It’s like - (strain) My mind link is - stronger. [MORE STRAINING AND GRUNTING AS THEY MOVE. THE STATIC GROWS LOUDER, HEAVIER.] DAISY (breathing heavy) Slow down. I-I can’t - ARCHIVIST Don’t let go. (effort) Come on. We’re close. This way. [THEY CONTINUE.] ARCHIVIST (CONT’D) Here, come on - push! [THEY BOTH GROAN LOUDLY AS THEY HEAVE AGAINST THE COFFIN LID, PUSHING IT OPEN. AS THEY DO, AND THE ARCHIVIST SIGHS IN RELIEF? CONTENTMENT? NUMEROUS VOICES OVERLAP IN THE BACKGROUND, SEEMINGLY ALL TALKING AT ONCE, SPEAKING OVER EACH OTHER AS IF THEY’RE IN A VERY LARGE CROWD.] DAISY Wh - We’re out! We’re really out! I can’t believe- ARCHIVIST Umm… DAISY What? What is it? ARCHIVIST Tape recorders. [Good lord,] must be dozens of them. [THE DOOR OPENS.] BASIRA John, you stupid idiot! What did you think? DAISY (soft) Hi. BASIRA Oh my god. [TAPE CLICKS OFF.]
Jon went down to save Daisy to show his friends how much he cares for them, that's he's willing to do anything for them. That's he's the same Jon as before, even though's he's not human anymore.
Daisy redemption!!!! Yes!!! Tape recorders being Jon’s anchor!!!! Very cool!!! My dearest going into dirt hell to save someone that tried to kill him!!! Look at my boy. Why does everyone want to hurt him.
This episode is so hard to listen to. For more than one reason. For one: I think I have a problem with crowded places and closed spaces (I don't know if it gets to the point of claustrophobia, but it surely is a huge anxiety point for me), so visualizing those two being crushed between long stretches of dirt while they have to make an active effort to speak is terrifying. Thinking Daisy has been alive and experiencing it for over eight months is terrifying. But also: how vulnerable Daisy is being. For the first time. And with Jon, whom she hated and almost killed more than once before. It's the first time in quite some time someone is not being actively hostile towards Jon, is being vulnerable and honest, and it's so heartbreaking to listen to Daisy confess she doesn't want to be a sadistic hunter anymore, but she doesn't want to feel like a pathetic prey either. She sounds so broken and tired. I just wanna cuddle her forever and let her pour out all her suffering until it empties out and she can build herself back up again. This episode of Daisy and Jon bonding inside the buried is probably one of the most unexpectedly candid episodes I've heard during these 4 seasons and listening it now for the second time is just as powerful as it was the first time I listened to it back in 2019.
I love what you've written about this, it's such a powerful episode. Poor Daisy's vulnerability, and the fact that she's probably the last person we'd expect to finally give Jon a non-confrontational conversation, but here we are. And Jon's Good Boi willingness to try to help people even in the face of their denial of his humanity is so bittersweet, I only hope they stop treating him like he's less human than any of them (especially since Daisy is a fricking avatar of the Hunt so she can't complain about other people being inhuman...)
Love Jon being so determined with so little people left, his little boyfriend is ghosting him, let’s be honest, he doesn’t have friends. Every single person he’s around views him as a monster AND HE TAKES OUT TWO OF HIS RIBS AND ENTERS (what i think is) THE DOMAIN OF THE BURIED TO RESCUE SOME LESBIAN?
Cannot believe. CANNOT BELIEVE. That they went and managed to make me like daisy. Redemption arc done right. ❤ Also, jon quoting what elias told him about choices???????? Holy shit.
How I see it John recorded a statement and got stronger. Stronger enough to feel the rib . So ... he IS getting stronger. I believe it's only a matter of time , and he will catch up and even surpass Elayas in terms of supernatural powers.
this episode kinda hits close to home cause daisy reminds me of when i went through a really bad trip and i felt so vulnerable and distant and alone and confused :(
This episode was so intimate and so... cathartic, in a way. Usually I don't really pick favourites but honestly, if I had a list of favourite episodes this one would be very high up on the list. Yeah. I think it's one of my favourites now
i wasn't really rooting for Daisy's well-being as a person(i still like her as a character), even after Elias did that thing to her. She always came off as rude and unpleasant, and while her connection to Basira was always sweet in a way, it was heavily outweighed to me by all her wrongdoings, up to and including trying to kill Jon. but this episode is the first time i legit started to care about her. Hearing her while away from the Hunt's influence really puts the character in a new light for me. Can't wait to see her surely fix her issues and live a happy and healthy life after this. :')
This episode gave me claustrophobia I- I've always had a fear of cramped spaces and being trapped in them, especially underground This just made it worse
I love how Daisy had trouble finding her words. I mean, you could argue that it was just because she could barely breate, but to me it's more than that. She's been in there for *months* - without anyone to talk to. That does something to you. People who were trapped alone for an extended period of time *will* have trouble speaking and forming full sentences. And this is one of the first pieces of media that acknowledges this, to me. I'm tired of all these characters being freed from solitary confinement and whatnot and immediately being fully functional humans again. That's not how it works. So i love this.
FINALLY SOMETHING GOOD HAPPENED, WE GOT DAISY BACK, maybe it's not to much to hope basira and daisy will trust him a tiny bit more after all he went through to help her?
Damn. Daisy and Jon out here playing terraria XD Anyway. I have a feeling that what lead Jon back the way he came where the tape recorders. And it got me thinking, I might do some light reaserch into Analog now. And rewatch the episode '"Binary" again. That mini nerd out about analog at the beginning might actually be relevant to Jon's connection to tape recorders. Outside spooky eye power bullshit.
Yeah, it was something about Magnetic tapes? And Annologe not exactly being one thing like Digital? Idk I'm not very smart.... but I'll keep this at the back of my mind.
Okay so this one makes me cry like a baby. Like all cops are bastards and Daisy is Bastard Woman Supreme, but the FEAR in her voice holy shit! The terror, the anguish!
So you just think people can't change, realize their mistakes and do better? Like if a cop quits the force after seeing what it's turned them into? Come on. Not only was Daisy influenced by The Hunt but she admits she never really liked it either. "Why didn't she just quit being a cop" you might ask? Circumstance, the Hunt pushing her on, the fact she was a Section 31 and of course Basira. Everyone always says ACAB for Daisy but Basira seems to get a pass, funny isn't it? I just hate this mentality that people can't change. It's so childish. Or that everyone is a cop completely by choice and not because it's just the path life layed out for them and they were coerced or pushed into thinking it was good.
I was thinking as I listened to the beginning of this and considering someone touched by the vast was able to end the whole ritual by the Buried Michael Crew could have been useful here, ironically. Not that I necessarily think Daisy was wrong to kill him. He seemed pretty content to kill to feed his patron.
