The Major Flaw in Gray Zone Warfare & Will the Game Survive? 

Update, now enemies shoot you from a bush instead of from next to the heli. So.. yeah.

guess the game will survive another day

@@brandonerwin7031don’t stand there like an idiot maybe? Run for cover and hide till u get more information? Some of yall just suck at realistic shooters. U have a good 5-10 seconds to run and hide in a bush or something before u can even die

Yoi have 5 sec invulnerability when you get off the heli too

​@@MarshSmellowSo you run to hide in a bush right in front of them and still get shot because they saw exactly where you ran too....great.

haha

Then you could just pick populated lz for the npcs to clear out

​@@chip5617don't hang out around lzs and you won't have an issue.

Can't you shoot from helo???

@@localcragdirtbag8049 yes, you can shoot from the helo.

it was fixed.. like two weeks ago

​@@ffsquirrelsure it was. Until it's really fixed. I'll stick to Joint Ops as well.

It was fixed lol you invulnerable for a big window now and you can shoot them if they try to kill u cause you won't take damage.

Holy shit I'm an idiot I thought you were not invulnerable yet

I hate is fun playing against computer dummy?

it's a great game

@@NothingButSkillz im obsessed spent 20 hours on it

3 days is nothing, honeymoon lasts for 3-4 weeks for majority of players

@@jakenake3401 keep in mind this is Beta. So we WILL see a drop and a RISE for each "Content" release.

New peak last night

sometimes "your" Team hunts you if you got a nice weapon... So PVE is it for me too, even when you die nobody can loot you.

Yeah the losers killing friendlies need to get banned

grow up!

@@jamminwithmatt5313 the ones who should grow up are the ones tking for loot

Basically you need a karma system, if you team kill and gain bad karma you get exiled Into being a lone wolf having to survive all on your own.. an outcast mercenary.. Team killers need to be punished and left to fend for themselves.

I think the immunity when you land for 30 seconds will help if the campers are close by like in the video but sniper campers are still gonna be a problem

@@itachis2gaming882 true but after 30 seconds of immunity it's up to your skills at that point 30 seconds is ample time .... also I think after you shoot you lose immunity, for fair game

that could work

I believe that’s what landmark was talking about

Itd be extremely hard for the heli to land anywhere , but really you should reppel anyways and i think that would be easy to implement

Did you only run into players of your faction? Lmao

@@gavinishavinabadday2035 player od my faction wanted to kill mě.

This is a key move. I have found I dont get lz camped when doing this

Put in about an 8 hour sessions with a full squad of 4. We got to the point where our missions are taking us outside the starting town and onto the enemy side of the map. We all decided to never land at the closet LZ near an POI on the enemy side of the map and we have yet to be killed off of the LZ from the get when first going into an area. We would land at an LZ that's 500m+ from where we actually want to go. Or if there's friendlies in the area, we shoot them a message asking if it's safe to land. Not saying the current mechanic is perfect, but it's it avoidable to extent from being LZ killed. Players are too quick on wanting to get into the action and I have noticed a lot of players after landing just begin sprinting and don't do any recon at all or have any sense of their surroundings. We were deep on the enemy side of the map doing missions and constantly killing enemy PMCs. We weren't even trying to PvP, we were doing a task, but PMC just kept landing and running towards us carelessly. Best way to play is play as if enemy PMCs are always nearby. Don't want to claim skill issue, but to an extent it kinda of is. Poor planning and not being aware of surroundings. There are some LZs around POIs that we will never land at because it's so close to the area and chances are there's already an enemy squad there and they can clearly hear our helo coming. Landing further out and walking is the absolute best route to go.

Great secret! Play 8 hrs spend 3 hours walking to where you need to get

@@michaelamezquita9059 lol. The landing zones that are just a bit off are not that far off. They take maybe an extra 5 min to walk from which is worth not being camped would you not say. Also even better the enemies do not hear the chopper come in.

@@michaelamezquita9059 Bro. Each POI has LZs that are ~300m aways and only takes an ~15 minutes to walk from without the risk of being killed while landing at the LZs that are less than 100m away from POIs. People who land at these close LZs then complain about being LZ camped are the real problem. Quite acting childish.

different stokes for different folks

It's ok you don't have to cry over it

@@atefibrahim8944 no one is crying, actually laughing more over your stupid comment kek

The call of duty nature in em

Must be even more funny not spending money on the game ,just to sit around watching videos on youtube of others having fun with it! Like a virgin watchin P0rn

I play PVE to avoid the toxicity

@@TheGnarlyGnome89 PVE is boring af.

I work 10-12hrs a day, I don’t want my game time of looting to go to waste because of some camper at the LZ

@@Reason4Termination Well, its subjective. I like both but lean more towards PvE as long as the Ai is good.

​@@mike8386that's the thing the AI is challenging at sometimes kinda bs but way more enjoyable than the pvp because people like this who rather complain about the heli when you could you know WALK to anywhere from your base

Rerouting would let players just fly around infinitely to scout etc

@@TechnicalParadox Agreed. I am against a re-routing mechanic. I see that being exploited out the ass. I think overall people need to plan better and have a better sense of judge. Don't land at LZs that are close enough to POIs where enemy's will hear you coming in on the helo.

I agree with both of u. I guess to take it a step further, the re route could be 1 time only and only immediate LZ close to the original. Final thought on that. But I ultimately agree..it would be exploited in some way. I also saw that you can return fire...there's a fix here but idk it lol. Thoughts?

@@X1MammothMetal1X I think any changes they make now will cause some sort of exploits. The ability to return fire is a great idea. Player on helo can't take damage, but still have the ability to fire, throw grenades, including smoke grenades. Another player recommended that players landing in should have 20 seconds of immunity after landing. At the surface it may seem like a solution, but what about those times where you're extracting and another squad flies in? You'd be caught in the open by players who can't take any damage. When we're playing and planning to fly into an area, we'll communicate with other friendlies asking if there's PMCs in the area. If it's clear or we see another friendly squad land, then we will land at a close LZ. Other than that, if we have any ambiguity with landing at a close LZ, we don't land there what so ever. We choose the next nearest LZ and walk in. Rather take the extra 10-15 minutes to walk from a safe LZ. I think players just need to use some common judgement and don't use LZS that are right next to POIs on the enemy side of the map and don't think there needs to be any further adjustments. Seems real foolish that players want alert enemy's presence by landing at LZs where other PMCs can hear them coming in.

I'm with u. Really it reminds me of squad. I feel personally, like this isn't a game specifically designed for solo runs...having teammates with mics will not only help but greatly improve the smoothness of operations

i usually hike in from a further lz

agree

I like that it’s on steam!

yeah

No there would definitely still be campers if you could shoot from the heli.

You can now. Can throw smoke and frags as well

It already fixed you can shoot

True you can shoot from the helicopter, but the vegetation is soo thick and you can still get shot by a bush camper, also the smoke grenades are not that thick in smoke at the moment

lol

Ah yes real life has a compass in ur eyesight at all times.... and he opened the map in the first 2 seconds bruh what...?

@@massivemethrat3393 he literally said "at first sight"...

lol true

STILL not a good fix

@@YuNgJ-ef9ki this is only a temporary fix, they have already said they are looking for other solutions to make LZs as dangerous as they are.

I made a really updated short not too long ago

lol

I’ve heard it’s somewhere between 3-5seconds

Yeah they updated it

until grenade bug at main gets you 🤣🤣

Unless you get team killed by your teammates. Loot whores are becoming a problem

Yes they updated it after this video for launch

you can shoot back now

LOL

Heard it would cause server issues

Ooo ice sea.. ya, maybe 4 cars/trucks maybe will not cause the server

they fixed the LZ by adding 5 second spawn and you can shoot back

@@NothingButSkillz Letsgoooooooh

It actually won’t survive with out pvp look at the other pve only extraction shooter that came out it’s dead. It’s the same type of game pve only. Only reason this sold 900k copies was because of pvevp

yeah buddy let me just take 3 hours to go from base to ban pa

@@Ganja420it takes 8 minutes if you tac sprint 😂

This is the most brain rot take ive ever seen

@@iustininfinite6841 🤣 good one pal

@@JIBBYGG glad you could take the time to read it stay off the fent

Because everyone is leveling up but we can now shoot from the chopper

oh haven't seen him in the game so he must be getting rocked since he cant kill at LZ anymore lol Rumor he is a bot

Yes we do!!

i think leave lz but let players also pick random fields

They did

lol

lol

lol arma