The Makings of a Leader | The Honourable Tony Abbott | EP 393

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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with Australian journalist and former prime minister, the Honourable Tony Abbott. They discuss Australia’s role on the world stage, the problems facing their economy and culture, how the quasi-cult of carbon threatens the developing world, why new religions propagate where faith has been abdicated, and the looming threat of war as China destabilizes while Putin pushes forward against Ukraine.
Tony Abbott was elected prime minister by the Australian people on September 7, 2013, and served for two years. In that time, the carbon tax and mining tax were repealed, free trade agreements were finalized with China, Japan and Korea; the people smuggling trade from Indonesia to Australia were halted, and Australia became the second largest military contributor to the US-led campaign against the Islamic State in Iraq. Currently, he is a director of the Ramsay Centre for Western Civilization, serves on the council of the Australian War Memorial, and is an adviser to the UK Board of Trade. He’s patron to several charities, including Soldier On, the International Sports Promotion Society, and Worldwide Support for Development.
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(0:00) Coming up
(0:30) Intro
(1:45) No one has a grievance against Australia
(3:47) Maintaining security and prosperity
(6:24) 5 years behind American woke-ness
(7:14) AU won’t use oil, but will sell it to China
(10:30) Have green policies been successful so far?
(13:08) The zero-emissions extremists denounce nuclear power, why?
(16:54) The reduction of morality to being anti-carbon
(17:58) The difference in making 5K GDP a year
(21:54) ARC: combatting a narrow dismal worldview
(23:39) When your parish prays for green energy
(26:26) The need for faith, integrating perceptions
(31:09) The things that really matter can’t be proven
(34:15) Self consciousness, negative emotion, and nested identity
(37:50) The importance of humility for a successful life
(42:12) Exodus: when the burning bush appeared to Moses
(44:57) The rise in ignorance and scorn for our history
(51:15) We are the product of those who have loved or failed to love us
(53:57) You are called upon to maintain faith against adversity
(55:47) You have to practice faith and humility
(57:50) Tammy Peterson’s fight with terminal cancer, what she turned to
(59:54) When suffering finds us
(1:01:47) The criticism of “weekend Christians,” and why its weak
(1:04:39) Leader of the opposition: “Say what you mean, do as you say”
(1:08:44) Is it worth it to play a straight game in politics?
(1:12:21) The single role of the opposition leader
(1:14:11) Better a fighter than a quitter
(1:16:54) Psychopathy: betrayal of the future self
(1:19:09) No unnecessary enemies
(1:19:51) China before 2016
(1:24:02) China today: destabilized and aggressive
(1:26:03) Deterrence and the protection of Taiwan
(1:29:30) The Russia Ukraine war
(1:31:44) What does the endgame look like?
(1:35:00) Don’t despise the values that built our culture
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@TheOTA101 7 месяцев назад

as a 26 year old Australian, I was told by every angle that Tony Abbott was a racist and that's it. I am very interested to hear him speak, and see if this was just another example of shutting down alternate opinions

@honestpat7789 7 месяцев назад

He hard a very hardline in immigration but it was far from racist, and racist is nothing more than a throwaway label in media/social media these days

@jetnavigator 7 месяцев назад

Tony was instrumental in the imprisonment of a political opponent. That's right, in Australia.

@dorianshadesofgray2981 7 месяцев назад

Don’t believe anything you read about strong conservative leaders from any country

@shanejovanovic6073 7 месяцев назад

@jetnavigator he had someone imprisoned?

@mikecoote9546 7 месяцев назад

I am at the place now where if I see someone pilloried or disparaged in the news paper or on television news, or if names of "bad" people are mentioned in articles about misinformation, disinformation or conspiracies etc, then I look them up. Usually find that they have well considered opinions and I often agree with them.

@razorback0z 7 месяцев назад

I voted for Prime Minister Abbott. I was absolutely disgusted when the party stabbed him in the back for Malcolm Turnbull. This was a low point in Australian politics and has heralded in over 20 years of political and cultural malaise. Tony Abbott is the closest thing to an honest politician you will ever see in your lifetime. How do I know this for a fact? Because at least half of everything he says is political suicide, but he speaks his mind and speaks the truth whenever he is called on to contribute. Thank you so much for reminding the world of this great man and thank you so much for working with him in your endeavors. He has an enormous amount to contribute.

@trevorhowat9271 6 месяцев назад

Totally agree the back stabbing and the media robbed this country of the best Prime Ministers we have had certainly in the last 20 years. Only bloke to tell Pultin that he would shirtfront him😂

@brucepaterson6731 6 месяцев назад

Big Tone, a selfless and very decent man, look what came after him 🤦‍♂️

@joseppi78 6 месяцев назад

To be fair, Turnbull was the opposition leader before Abbott, and he only won by a single vote during their first leadership spill. The liberals only installed him as an opposition leader to take down Gillard and Rudd and also to push policy that would benefit the liberal party's donors once he became the Prime Minister.

@boomct8569 6 месяцев назад

I cannot believe Jordan Peterson has interviewed Tony Abbott. I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised that men of their calibre would meet but I am absolutely delighted to see this interview - Tony Abbott was one of the most under appreciated politicians and Prime Ministers in Australian history. God bless you both and thank you!!

@ProofBenny 6 месяцев назад

Turncoat Turnbull was a complete disaster for the libs and the gift that keeps giving for labor

@mcape6911 7 месяцев назад

How amazing it is to see some Australian politics documented with RU-vid comments allowed. Thanks so much to Jorden. Every Australian interested in our position in the world stage will watch this.

@gavinoliver4861 7 месяцев назад

I appreciate this conversation being posted on RU-vid. It’s great to read all comments. You can read everyone’s perspective in the world and see where there coming from.

@mikebrisebois 7 месяцев назад

I just can’t believe the quality of the guests and conversations Jordan Peterson has been giving us free of charge. I’m blown away that this is actually happening multiple times a month. We can’t help but get ourselves back on track listening to these conversations. The world is a far better place because of him

@2xcrzkxk 7 месяцев назад

Definitely in the A list of quality content on the internet

@jeremybrimmer1990 7 месяцев назад

@big_red_machine3547 7 месяцев назад

Freedom isn’t “free”. It’s up to each one of us to do our part so we can save ourselves for what’s coming. That way, he, I and you can all have a better world

@Drowe71 7 месяцев назад

Quality of guest , was that sarcasm? Tony Abbot is like scrapping the bottom of the barrel as far as politicians go. Who's next Scott Morrison, want to talk about handing out pronouns and titles, these people never earned the title Honourable, criminal perhaps.

@_pawter 7 месяцев назад

@@Drowe71 leftard how much are you paid per post? Please don't tell me the chows tricked you into doing it for free. That's even more pathetic. But now I look at your illiterate (edited) post perhaps you really are a non-native speaker: refer to a dictionary to learn what a "scrap" is.

@jamesgillam6478 7 месяцев назад

I'm a 30 year old Australian, and I remember well when Tony was in, and was slandered as a racist sexist prick by just about everybody, and I remember believing it. It was only when I saw him literally on the front lines in his own community fighting some of the worst fires we had ever had that I realised we had been told a bunch of nonsense about a good man.

@fatherburning358 7 месяцев назад

Yes as opposed to Mr dipshit who went on holiday in Hawaii at the start of our blackest summer ever.

@danielgreen4747 7 месяцев назад

I'm also a 30 year old Australian and I remember being in first year college when he was elected and everyone was against him. Nowadays I wish he was there instead of everything we've had.

@andrewdean7917 7 месяцев назад

I remember roll call in third , fourth and fifth class at 9am ! It went like this Abbott , present . Davies present. Dean present. A very wise and under rated man .

@TheBainzz 7 месяцев назад

But forgetting when he was flown out by Adani to India a few weeks after the fires to a fossil fuel lobbying conference funded by the major polluters on how they could continue expanding their operations in Aus? With none of the Aus public seeing that money?

@JayJay-wg5ex 7 месяцев назад

I am 42 I remember thinking as someone on the left back then, why does everyone hate him so much? It was awful how they disparaged him in the media, everywhere. Something about the way h made them feel I think, as he backed himself and was confident.

@liamjong4333 7 месяцев назад

As an Australian I thought Tony Abbot was a terrible PM for Australia, but I think he is a good and honourable man. The fact that he fought the black summer bush fires with the fireies for no media attention is truly amazing, and the unlike most recent liberal PM, he at least deserved to lead.

@TESTCHANNEL-qg8qn 7 месяцев назад

Interesting, I didn't know that about him fighting the fires. As an Aussie fiery it was disgusting that SM went on holidays to Hawaii while people were dying fighting the worst fires in our history

@SirFluffy100 6 месяцев назад

Abbott was a terrible PM. His international relations were awful and he undid or stopped alot of positive progress. He would have been a great local leader as for national and global politics, its a no from me.

@wabisabi3619 6 месяцев назад

Yep, he was the party attack dog. Good at internal politics and unsettling his opponents. Terrible statesman and sloppy on policy.

@studley2436 6 месяцев назад

He had been a firefighter for some years before the Black Summer came along. It's hard to judge his Prime Ministership. He had a media pack baying for his blood and Turnbull undermining him and working to take the top job. He never had any space at all to be Prime Minister. I think given the opportunity he could have been very good.

@Okay_mate 6 месяцев назад

@@studley2436 As an average joe, so to speak, I couldn't even begin to understand the complexities of running a country or any high ranking political office. Especially if as you say, your very position is under attack from inside your own office as well as from external sources as I imagine is the case for all PM's. Not an enviable post at all. His Prime Minister-ship aside, he's at least an interesting man to listen to.

@ironmind258 7 месяцев назад

As an Aussie, I love Tony Abbot for his ability to get on with it even when everyone's shitting on him, just like old john Anderson great bloke.

@NedKelly1967 7 месяцев назад

We could do with an Abbot Anderson dream team right now with Costello back on the books …. Step up Gentlemen WE NEED YOU

@MrBigbangbuzz 7 месяцев назад

He was shit though .. a bit up his own arse and arrogant. He is smart though .. just wasn’t right for PM

@sandfish63 7 месяцев назад

One of the worst PM's in Australian history. Only eclipsed by Scomocchio the head liar and cheat master of deception and hypocrite supreme.

@binmcbin1890 7 месяцев назад

Won't someone think of poor Tony, the puppet of the establishment who backglipped on election promises and single-handedly destoryed aged care and is the reason we pay through the nose for doctors. The man is scum, don't let a puff piece funded by the billionaires who placed him in the top job. Wake up.

@lesleyjamieson924 6 месяцев назад

Absolutely. Aussies we’re just too ignorant to work out that he would have made a very good leader.

@NedKelly1967 7 месяцев назад

I miss Tony’s Premiership he is a good man surrounded by many who are NOT so good. We need him back .

@MaryMartinish 6 месяцев назад

Totally agree! I think there will come a time soon when decent politicians like Tony will make a return...a true reset. 🙏🇦🇺

@tylerdurden4483 7 месяцев назад

Unrelated but I want Jordan Peterson and Thomas Sowell to sit down and have a chat. I don't care what they talk about. Please🙏🙏🙏

@michaelnolan5624 7 месяцев назад

I’d love to see Thomas Sowell on Jordan’s podcast.

@breckfreeride 7 месяцев назад

Lol good luck

@mack63u7 7 месяцев назад

Would be great although I hear the invitation has been extended and declined a couple of times.

@mellainenewman576 7 месяцев назад

A wonderful man and he was a great prime minister/ It’s regrettable that we don’t have him right now in parliament. He’s a man of deep integrity and intelligence and leadership. Bless him and I hope he remains a man speaking out about all our problems in Australia now. Thank you for your contribution to our country. ❤

@0xkeez 7 месяцев назад

Wow, around a year ago Tony came to my men’s group of around 15 young guys because my pastor met him at the hardware store. Tony generously and humbly came one arvo and answered our questions about his faith and leadership. Crazy to see him with Jordan 🤯

@Clickybux 7 месяцев назад

Where was this and what church group? Just curious because I also have a men's group I could invite him too!? 🤔

@0xkeez 7 месяцев назад

@@Clickybux Hey mate, the church is called Harvest Time Church at Forestville, Northern Beaches.

@chook1311 5 месяцев назад

Cultists

@ridgegameren6921 7 месяцев назад

As a young conservative Tony failed to arrest the capture of out institutions and he engaged in the most trite of conservative causes. The mining tax he abolished surrender our resources to giant multinationals, a neocons neocon. He is detested by the young right and left equally.

@JamesMolyneux62 7 месяцев назад

@@drdeesnutts48perhaps you haven’t been listening to what he is saying in this interview

@indefatigable6176 7 месяцев назад

I agree to an extent - as much as an intellectual Tony is, and as much as he is a good man, his years as Prime Minister yield little successes.

@NPC-fl3gq 7 месяцев назад

@@indefatigable6176 To be fair, he was in a similar position to trump - attacked constantly from all sides, so he spent much of his time just trying to address false perceptions whipped up by the ABC etc. Had he had even a handful of like minded people in parliament willing to openly support him, Turnbull and the ABC would have had a much harder time ruining his prime-ministership.

@DeadMimicked 6 месяцев назад

@@NPC-fl3gq He absolutely wasn't. I don't put much stock into the Australian main media in general because it's all under the same biased leadership that FAVOUR the Liberal party which Tony ran under - he was doing the same thing the party was doing whenever they've been elected into power. Siphoning money away from public funding for education, health and disaster prevention and into building top of the line fighters overseas, all the while further fucking the job market and stroking the dicks of real estate investors that turned NSW into a housing nightmare. He's also the reason our NBN plan got fucked in its' initial stages and set the groundwork for our national healthcare no longer being free due to how much his party cut the funding over the years. Now to be fair to mr.Budgie smugglers he was nowhere near as fucked or shady as Scomo ever was, but he's definitely nothing like Trump. Trump wouldn't sell domestic food and water production and land to China like Tony did and bolster the military against no imminent threat at the cost of the living conditions of US citizens, even while Xi's mask was slipping further and further.

@Albot940 6 месяцев назад

@@NPC-fl3gqlmao, the ABC isn't the heavyweight you think it is. Our media is almost entirely conservative. Tony was a dud that achieved nothing but knighting a foreigner.

@victoriacarpenter2657 6 месяцев назад

Tony Abbott was a great PM . I wish he would join one nation.. he is a man that gets in and helps .. and not afraid to get his hands dirty

@fuzzyboots123 7 месяцев назад

I never expected to see Tony Abbott chatting with JP 😂 can't wait to hear this one

@quabio 7 месяцев назад

Wild times we live in haha

@Amy-yb4ne 7 месяцев назад

Same!! It's so random!! Very intrigued though.

@davidscalais 7 месяцев назад

Yeah same

@sandfish63 7 месяцев назад

How was it ? Abbott is a creep. Always was ....always will be.

@richardtomlinson2063 6 месяцев назад

I'm a Brit but lived for 5 years in Australia, the end part through Tony Abbot's Premiership. He was ridiculed for his Christsn beliefs and body shamed on a daily basis for going for a surf. He just did what it said on the tin, and the country turned against him, under constant duress from the media. This is clearly what needs to be addressed?

@chickintruth 7 месяцев назад

"If you're prepared to lose (the cause) for which you're striving, in order to win; it's no longer about the cause, it's about you." Well said and brilliantly applicable to all facets of life; most particularly Faith.

@jeremybrimmer1990 7 месяцев назад

"For the cause, comrade"

@Bobo-ox7fj 7 месяцев назад

@@jeremybrimmer1990 donacdum

@sandfish63 7 месяцев назад

This bloke is the most self serving greed orientated mongrel ever to walk the planet.

@brendan8915 6 месяцев назад

I only wish we could have heard him to this extent at the time. My regrets for not understanding the man better at the time. - 29 Aussie.

@delamberty 6 месяцев назад

I pray that one day, I will be able to articulate my thoughts as clear as Mr. Prime Minister and John Peterson. Thank you for sharing this wisdom.

@mayormccheese6171 7 месяцев назад

This match-up is the ABC's worst nightmare.🤣

@SloppySeconds. 7 месяцев назад

Lol

@Gabrielle4870 7 месяцев назад

Haha

@grannyannie2948 7 месяцев назад

😂

@whatbrigiddid6492 7 месяцев назад

So true 😂

@roseroyaltyy 7 месяцев назад

😂😂😂

@JimJamJuicy 7 месяцев назад

It’s an Australian tradition to slag off our PMs. But this guy is one of the only ones I’d like to have a beer with.

@Sange4499 6 месяцев назад

< 31yr old Australian, I was in Tafe when Abbott's budget cuts affect my course and reduced it's length. The only opinion of Abbot among my piers was of an incompetent and blind fool who sold out our youth and arts. Then you have this other end in absolute stark contrast of a conversation about such sensitive and controversial topics that most people are too scared to talk about - and even having been through that experience and weighing up both, I can't help but admire him for having the guts to a long form conversation with Peterson without pause for nearly 2 hours. I found myself agreeing with a lot of what Abbott had to say here and shocked myself. I think this is a good lesson and a reminder that no one individual can meet the needs of everyone and that some of them are important at what they do bring to the table. Seeing some hate on here for him, can't say I haven't felt the exact same at 20, but I listened to this without my head up my but and heard it for what it was.

@RandyTwang 7 месяцев назад

Never excepted to see Tony Abbott on here.

@dansan9845 7 месяцев назад

Never expected but not surprised nonetheless, both have common values and similar interests in terms of global cultural matters.

@shanerobertson6267 4 месяца назад

@@dansan9845we’ll said .

@Sabin41 6 месяцев назад

I'm an Australian in his mid 30s. I remember Tony coming to where I live while Prime Minister and going for a bike ride and I always found him to be really reasonable. I had a lot of people try tell me he was an idiot, or he was crazy and it was always based on him being religious. He has supporters where I live because it's a country town, but overall I feel like Australians in general have a deep disdain for not only politicians but religion as well. The combination is a lightning rod for scorn.

@MrWhitmen1981 6 месяцев назад

Strangely it wasn’t that that cost him the top job. It was the straight up broken promise of no cuts. Joe Hockey cost this man another term.

@bd6912 7 месяцев назад

I'm an Australian who was a young _"progressive"_ while Tony Abbott was our prime minister. I've gone from hating and loathing this man to respecting and admiring him. Having said that, I still had no idea he was this insightful. Congratulations Mr Abbott for all your accomplishments. You are a remarkable man

@mervekirmizi2992 7 месяцев назад

Are you lost? you clearly don't understand how to look into politics and policies. Abbot is a lower, there's a reason Australia kicked him to the curb

@theLEGOguy22 7 месяцев назад

@@mervekirmizi2992let’s not forgot the complete moron that replaced him. Like or loathe, at least Abbot is highly intelligent and principled…..unlike ScoMo

@danstewy2452 7 месяцев назад

Abbott accomplished nothing in office, noticeably he increased corporate profits while being an open homophobe and mysogynist...

@binmcbin1890 7 месяцев назад

Sad how you've become indoctrinated by a rewriting of history. The man was a dud

@dianawalls3157 7 месяцев назад

Really loved this conversation, I am a huge fan of both of these gentlemen, we really need millions more of them to teach our young how to get back on track to building this world into a better, more exciting, inspiring place where everyone has a share of the prosperity that this fabulous planet has to offer.❤

@kjireland3567 7 месяцев назад

Yeah they really are gentleman.

@norgazmic 7 месяцев назад

You're delusional. Abbott is one of Australia's biggest failures, second only to Scott Morrison. This is a laughing stock.

@allaussiehiphop 6 месяцев назад

How come Tony didn't do any of that when he was PM?

@leonharrison800 5 месяцев назад

@@norgazmic Yes. God help Australia when Abbott is treated as credible!!!

@mario11115 7 месяцев назад

Young men present, sir ! 🪖 Thank you, from France. Nice to see you both talking. Hope more young men watch your videos. Especially if they did not have a role model. Good luck for the near future Mr. Abbott and Mr. Peterson. It's good to see reasonable people talking, coming from all around the world. We need more of this !

@wiselistener4978 7 месяцев назад

As an Australian I am actually impressed by Tony Abbott and think history will look on him better than others in that office.

@ava1421 6 месяцев назад

And what about him being hell bent on defending convicted pedo Cardinal George Pell who will forget that?

@firstnlast6846 7 месяцев назад

Tony was cancelled by the Australian media, when he was Prime Minister. He was kicked out pre election by his own party. Yet he was one of the few PM's to actually do what he said he would do.

@calibresmith9882 6 месяцев назад

Nonsense revisionist history - he had an entirely sympathetic Murdoch media behind him for his entire time before, during and after his prime ministership!

@firstnlast6846 4 месяца назад

@@calibresmith9882 not how i remember it sorry

@gabriellamclellan1102 6 месяцев назад

Thank you Jordan..great interview..🇦🇺

@juliepatterson2461 6 месяцев назад

Speaks volumes of Tony Abbott to see Mr Peterson giving him space to discuss Australia. Tony voted No in thhe recent referendum and that shows he wasnt controlled by corporate money. Hope Tony runs for PM. Much respect to you both.

@JackAlderton 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for having Tony on your show Jordan. He was my favourite PM in my lifetime, unfortunately, other Aussies didn't feel the same - and we can see what's happened since he left office (not good!)

@danielgreen4747 7 месяцев назад

He wasn't my favourite PM at the time (was on the left and 18 years old) but nowadays definitely support what he stands for!

@Donsomebody 7 месяцев назад

He was one of the first PM's I voted for so yes I am inclined to agree with your viewpoint.

@Albot940 6 месяцев назад

"(not good)" lmao what does that even mean, get off the internet for a while maybe

@blondspike74 7 месяцев назад

He would have been a great and respected leader…if we (Australia) we’re in the 1950s.

@bartbengal 7 месяцев назад

I remember first year of uni going to see a stand up comedy show at the uni bar. I remember the comedian saying something along the lines of 'Tony Abbott ran the most negative campaign in Australia's history'. And I remember thinking, 'that's literally the exact opposite of what I've been seeing the last 2 weeks. Why's everyone laughing and clapping?'.

@dooivid 6 месяцев назад

Tony Abbot's campaign as opposition leader was to literally oppose everything the government did. He weaponized negativity.

@SAYID697 7 месяцев назад

Yet another extremely insightful interview with an extremely wise man. Thanks Dr. Peterson and Daily Wire for making it happen.

@mickc6347 7 месяцев назад

This is all BS, Abbott was evil and hated, a pretend Christian that found a son camera man just before he stole the leadership and took months to find out was not his son. The most detested prime minister in Australian history.

@TheKony2013 7 месяцев назад

Abbot is one of Australia’s best, despite what the Australian media has told us, he is one of the only leaders that we’ve had who has a deep, rational and coherent worldview and political philosophy. Thank you for having him on!

@jllammie444 7 месяцев назад

he's apart of the media that only fights for the liberal's after being a liberal

@razorback0z 7 месяцев назад

Agreed.

@JimJamJuicy 7 месяцев назад

Exactly right

@Lollipop_Lexi 7 месяцев назад

Except for Howard, Keating and Hawke who all had deep and knowledgeable political philosophies that they lived during their time in office. Whether you agreed with them or not, they were politically astute.

@maximumzest245 6 месяцев назад

Despite what the media has told us? The liberal party and the media in Australia have the same boss

@SaintUdio 7 месяцев назад

I was very keen and pleased that I saw this interview today as it went up to air. I do disagree with Mr Abbott on at least two major issues (for different reasons) but am very pleased to see that in the wake of the Australian media backlash here …no doubt at the behest of those driving the political bus, that he has been able to hold and retain his integrity. A great interview and I hope to see further discussions between you. At the end i deduced that this was recorded prior to the end of October so I do hope that whatever is happening/has happened in London was productive. I look forward to hearing more. Thank you Gentlemen.

@LiamLuxAndersson 7 месяцев назад

I can't help but interpret that Jordan is applying the same left-right dichotomy (of USA and Canada) to the Australian political landscape. I worry this repetitive interaction with former Liberal leaders (John Anderson, Scomo, John Howard) is because Labor leaders refuse to interact, however, I hope this is not the case. Please, please, please talk to Paul Keating, that would be a phenomenal conversation.

@lees1159 7 месяцев назад

It's difficult to make an accurate judgment of someone when they're constantly under the scrutiny of the public, opposition and news agencies. I feel like a lot of people would do well to watch this conversation (others too) and see that Tony Abbott is a respectable, intelligent and well meaning man. Regardless of whether you agree with him on everything, there's no disputing that he's well informed on many current issues. I think we need more people who are willing to humbly share their objective observations and also stand by their beliefs. I've left Australia, but it's refreshing to see one of our political figures who isn't just talking utter self serving nonsense.

@rywolf 6 месяцев назад

Never thought I’d see these 2 together, interesting podcast

@Gumsley86 7 месяцев назад

An interesting conversation which I enjoyed quite a lot. To be honest, I didn't have much time for Tony Abbott as a politician. I was younger and more left leaning back then to be fair. However his time as Opposition Leader, while clearly effective at getting his party elected, was in my opinion quite damaging to political discourse and was part of one of the most turbulent periods in recent political history (5 x changes in PM over a 10 year period, back stabbings constantly by both parties, almost 0 bipartisanship) from which we've only recently recovered. Granted, one man isn't responsible for everything that happened, but I don't look back on that period fondly. Regardless, it's clear that he's a man of integrity, and with the passage of time and a change in role/responsibility, I'm glad he's representing Australia's interests abroad.

@46I37 7 месяцев назад

The MSM had an agenda to destroy him. He was painted a misogynist when he private life was surrounded by strong women he supported.

@paulmorrison7465 7 месяцев назад

When you say Tony Abbott was damaging to political discourse in Australia you are quite mistaken. Discourse had broken down long before his time as Opposition Leader, simply look back to Mark Latham or Paul Keating decades before Abbott.

@Pacdoc-oz 7 месяцев назад

the hatred is generated by anti-conservative bias in youngsters who do not know better and old lefties who have hate rusted on. Being Conservative is loving all the good things about our society which has made the population safe, educated and free and being cautious about change for change sake; NOT ALL change is for the better.

@paulmorrison7465 7 месяцев назад

@@Pacdoc-oz Agree completely, you just have to look at the way political discourse has degenerated since the Senate eligibility requirements were lowered and allowed so many "Independents" to be elected, and we'll just refrain from comment on how the election of single issue candidates to the "House of Review" has distorted and degraded actual policy development and Governance here in Australia. Funniest thing though, Zalli Steggal, a "Teal" Independent who took Tony's electorate in the last election, has just introduced Legislation about "Truth" in Political Advertising" in response to the supposed mis-information & disinformation contained in the No case for the recent Referendum, yet somehow lacking any details of what these were. I just wonder who will be the arbiters of this "Truth" or how she will sell it to her ALP colleagues/friends considering the scare campaigns on Medicare, NDIS and Social Security they trot out at every election, to name but a few.

@abandonedstraya5264 6 месяцев назад

I agree that 10 year period was the Worst period I have ever experienced by far it was borderline embarrassing at times.

@elliec2943 7 месяцев назад

Tony Abbott and Jordan Peterson together?? What a sight that was...

@awesome123484 7 месяцев назад

Jordan Peterson talking to Australia's Toby Abbott ? CRazy times

@marcianiedziolko9984 7 месяцев назад

Amazing guest! Very much pleased to get to know Tony Abbot is a traditionalist Catholic. Leaders like him we need in the west to confront and restrain the damage caused by leftist ideologies and politics.

@kavzz918 7 месяцев назад

No we don't. We need better. I lived under an Abbott administration and he threw Australia and Australian businesses under the bus. For example he tried to make an Indian Port so close to the Great Barrier reef it would destroy it. So from a monetary perspective, The Great Barrier reef brought in over $400M a year from tourism alone. Not including income tax etc. He tried to sell a area for a port for $4B. $4B or $400M every year with gradual increases due to tourism? What you think is better? He also promised on election night "On the eve of the 2013 federal election Tony Abbott promised no cuts to education, health, or the ABC and SBS, and no changes to pensions." (Then and now: the Abbott government's broken promises - SMH). He broke every single one. He's a smarmy, lying and deceitful person who tried to hide behind is fake 'religiousity'. There's a reason his own party backstabbed him and removed him.

@sharonhepburn8966 7 месяцев назад

I agree. While he was Prime Minister he did NOT behave in a statesmanlike manner and he was willing ready and able to get “down and dirty” for political gain. Sure he has some great values and is committed to his community but many Australians remember how he comported himself during his political career. You couldn’t call it ennobling. I am surprised JP didn’t do a little more research into our political history 😢

@jeremygrant8998 7 месяцев назад

The part about psychopaths and self awareness causing stress mixed with the discussions on environment sparked some interesting ideas relevant to myself. Thank you Jordan I will endeavour to shape a belief that will benefit my life by paying attention to when I think my personality draws on opinions for good bad on others and giving or gaining in a now state. I'm a singer songwriter that values looking inward on society and the more I look inward on myself the more I define the nature of my artistry. All my life I have looked at the world around me with full openess. The world has forced extroverted behaviour on my personality in order to outlet my talent. If you ever find a way to educated people like myself on this counterpoint I feel the world would be better than what it is.

@anneee11 7 месяцев назад

woahhh two people i never thought i needed to come together for discussion. Dr. Peterson guests are really such high quality.

@ausmoney802 6 месяцев назад

I am really dissapointed with how I once perceived Tony Abbot, living in Sydney it seemed that everyone hated this man so strongly with a passion that they'd think differently if you didn't have the same opinion. I never had a chance to truly listen to him speak which again is devastating having judged this person without really listening to a thing they've said. This bloke is an utter genius and says it exactly how it is. True warrior, strong character and Austrlaian through and through.

@danielgreen4747 7 месяцев назад

I'm an Australian who was in college (at a high level University) when Abbott was elected. Everyone was up in arms against him. Nowadays I think he's ultimately speaking a voice of reason now I'm 30 years old. Thank you Jordan and Tony for this interview.

@just-a-fella3212 6 месяцев назад

Tony Abbott has always been a reasonable man, although naturally along the way he has made mistakes and grown wiser from them, as hopefully we all do. Leftism is anti-Christian. It portrays itself as a Godless superior alternative to Christianity and to all that Christianity stands for. Tony Abbott's traditional Christian faith is the reason the left hate him so much.

@Zstig991 7 месяцев назад

One of the reason Australia don't go into international disputes is the clear fact that they don't share a border with another country. What a blessing you continent country.

@boagspremium 7 месяцев назад

@@drdeesnutts48 Wanna know the Australians foreign policy is? Ask the Americans ha ha

@x0rn312 7 месяцев назад

"Small beer" is an Australian saying I have not heard before. I like it I think I'm going to use it

@rsinclair6560 7 месяцев назад

Here is another mate: 'gone BURKO....meaning lost their temper...angry.

@chrisarabatzis4152 7 месяцев назад

I'm just glad Australia get's some attention, for once :D

@rainegoldberg9376 7 месяцев назад

Excellent interview. Two wonderful and intellectual men that we can all learn something from. 👏🏻👏🏻❤️🙏🏻

@Zeigfried66 7 месяцев назад

I would be 1000% more keen to see a conversation with Kevin Rudd

@alijames180 7 месяцев назад

Having to listen to my mother say goodbye on the phone to my sister in London and my brother in The UAE, listening to her have to say goodbye, was incredibly difficult.

@australianwatchdog 6 месяцев назад

Tony is the best PM we have ever had. Sure, some mistakes, but no one is perfect, best PM we have ever had. Miss you Tony and hope you are well.

@eureka842008 7 месяцев назад

Until the energy is completely free, like Nikola Tesla meant it to be, there will be hardship and poverty as well as wars in this world.

@wheel-man5319 7 месяцев назад

Stop opposing nuclear power.

@SaintUdio 7 месяцев назад

My first thoughts also… Why are none of these people discussing the possibility of free energy at all and still playing the mainstream line there? And more to the point, why is free energy still illegal and punishable by all sorts of dastardly things - no less being regarded a thief (and punished according to their self-righteous pronouncements) in South Australia if you would dare to go off grid and then dare to produce your own free power. You would risk having your home turned inside out by fully armed police who would hunt for the supposed illegal power source being ‘stolen’ from said grid that you might have (and they would surely find) in your home if you dare to switch on a light bulb not connected to the grid without their authority. Is it any wonder that there is still the push to have us all monitored using ‘smart’ meters?

@dcs668 7 месяцев назад

JP, his colleagues & guests are trying to save Western Civilisation. Bravo.

@aga5109 7 месяцев назад

Exactly !👏

@jayess8714 7 месяцев назад

Holy shit. Tony Abbott X Jordan Peterson. What a time to be alive.

@Mondegreen2020 7 месяцев назад

Abbott's totally incorrect about NATO & Russia.

@aroyaliota 7 месяцев назад

👍

@N1mbleOne 7 месяцев назад

He sounds like a pro-war lunatic, I agreed with everything else he had to say, it's so strange seeing him do a complete 180 morally and suggest Ukraine and the West do the exact thing that leads to further conflict and suffering. He's also blatantly lying when saying things like "decimating cities", all strikes against Ukraine has been precision strikes on valid military targets, "decimating cities" would be the equivalent of what Israel is doing in Gaza, dropping 6000 bombs in a week on a single city, indescriminately, flattening block after block with civilians still close by or even inside.

@MrMattias87 7 месяцев назад

I'm glad to hear Jordan acknowledges the distinct difference between blind faith and self faith, however one can be deceived by their own self faith by not testing it against the reality...which is one of the reasons why it's a good idea to gather the evidence (credible evidence) and test it out as well as having critical thinking abilities. Acting on faith on it's own for the sake of it is blind faith and same with just believing things at face value. Both religious and the woke have demonstrated their sense of blind faith.

@livingmorelife 7 месяцев назад

Great interview and agreed with everything Tony had to say Except about Russia and NATO. West good Russia bad just doesn’t cut it with me anymore.

@MalcolmMXTaylor 7 месяцев назад

I'm tending to agree with this as every day passes and getting more convinced that the requirement of all our governments to keep sending money to Ukraine (which before this war started was the most corrupt country in Europe every mainstream media outlet told us, as well as I lived there for a year and embraced that corruption by paying police to extend my visa!!) which we all know is a massive money maker for companies like ratheon, Lockheed Martin, and other weapon manufacturers, while at the same time our own governments largely ignore their own people who are struggling with inflation and energy prices.. It's like our governments are actively reducing its own people's quality of life intentionally while enriching 'the war machine' (and the politicians who have their financial connections to that machine)...

@strategicexit8561 7 месяцев назад

During the awful bushfires in 2019-2020, Victoria's labor premiere Dan Andrews went on holiday. The Green party leader pushed for more solar on roofs. The climate cult screamed and hollered. The fires were caused by labor's poor forestry management (sabotage), lit by arsonists, in an environment irrevocably altered by aboriginals setting fire to everything. The whole country was set up for disaster. Meanwhile, Tony was a volunteer fire fighter and was out for months and months, fighting fires with other volunteers.

@Wentletrap213 7 месяцев назад

Our fires out west in the United States are caused by poor forest management as well. There is no excuse for it. Tony Abbott seems like a good guy. I’m enjoying this interview. I’m sure the leftist Australians hurled all types of “ist” and “ism” accusations at him.

@grannyannie2948 7 месяцев назад

Yes I remember. A couple of weeks before the 2019 fires began the ABC hosted a panel of foul mouthed feminists. They repeatedly called for Australia to burn and men to die. The fires began and men died fighting fires.

@Djturd64 7 месяцев назад

You have fallen for Murdoch’s spin on that whole saga. It’s a shame you didn’t mention Scott Morrison going on holiday when we had those massive bush fires right before the pandemic. It seems like you are the the type of person who voted No on the referendum? You need to know that the large majority of Australia’s media is owned by the liberals (look up Peter Costello). It’s a shame to see Jordon Peterson actually listen to abbots mindless nonsense. He talks about how Australia is heading down yet HE and his party were in charge that own time haha.

@grannyannie2948 7 месяцев назад

@@j.p.8137 I saw Morrison's smug beaming face as Schwab personally praised him for using covid to advance their aims. But Labor stood by all these decisions and only complained they were too soft. Whilst I didn't particularly like him at the time, Abbott was the only politician who actually fought fires. At this stage I don't believe in democracy. As I see it we just vote for globalist puppets and it's the agreements they sign with the UN, WHO etc that actually rule us.

@Zeigfried66 7 месяцев назад

Your comment about indig is also ridiculous - there was much better management and knowledge of fire prevention in their culture that supported new growth on the land and prevented massive bushfires like the ones that occurred.

@willyOAM 6 месяцев назад

great interview!

@Timiscool1321 7 месяцев назад

As an Aussie, Thank you!!!

@derkennedy1228 7 месяцев назад

I would suggest that we learn from Putin and focus on developing our own people in the context of our history and ignore the insane section of our people, while facing the real limitations to which we are subject.

@vscards884 7 месяцев назад

Food for thought. Thank you gentlemen for sharing and God bless you both. Cheers from Australia.

@Coldkill2001 7 месяцев назад

Australia being free and fair? You're joking. People aren't even allowed to grow their own tobacco or own toy guns

@wade2bosh 7 месяцев назад

compared to other countries not ur utopia

@arcticbunyip5005 7 месяцев назад

I'm not sure when tobacco and gun ownership was the basis of being free and fair

@myles3856 7 месяцев назад

@@arcticbunyip5005you know he means they love big government and regulation on people’s lives

@grandwizard9088 7 месяцев назад

@@arcticbunyip5005 so what exactly in your eyes constitutes “freedom and fairness”??? Your not convincing anyone that Australia, or my home of Canada is any longer a free and democratic nation

@arcticbunyip5005 7 месяцев назад

@@grandwizard9088 definitely NOT some trifling Nth American idea about tobacco or guns, it's not in our constitution or national identity soooo a made up problem from another nation. Remember OUR constitution did not come from rebellion or Civil war or any conflict whatsoever .... And very few nations can say that if memory serves me correctly. Look at our referendum just last month .... Free and fair and done 👍 dare to do That in Nth America, no chance or even possible (albeit I don't know the constitutional laws there in any depth)

@owenheatwole944 7 месяцев назад

Remembering that is the Word says to “rejoice with those who rejoice” - and weep with those who weep

@tonyegan4651 7 месяцев назад

A great discussion and a great insight into someone I have had respect for in Tony Abbott and I am even more puzzled in light of his testimony that so many people I know who have a very negative view of him? Well done Jordan and Tony.

@wf4758 6 месяцев назад

One word ...media

@prernakanakia8707 7 месяцев назад

Honorable and admirable indeed 🙏

@yakalb93 6 месяцев назад

Tony abbott is a great man. Thank you for interview

@againstalladsgames 7 месяцев назад

If Jesus is not your center you will always feel lost and empty. No amount of sex, booze, money or drugs will fill that need in your spirit to connect with your Maker.

@thewillsfamilyaccount6486 7 месяцев назад

Humility is key.. wonderfully done!!

@thatkoalabear 7 месяцев назад

Excellent video! So glad it’s on RU-vid ❤

@blossom7582 7 месяцев назад

Love this guy, wish he was still running our country. He didn't give a f*&k what people thought, he just did his job.

@michaelmeehan9083 7 месяцев назад

Jordan, I have to thank you for one thing...teaching me how important humility is to self-knowledge.

@pokeloowis 7 месяцев назад

I'll be open minded enough to watch this when I get a chance. I just hope Peterson questions Abbott on any questionable takes...

@janettescott580 6 месяцев назад

From Australia, I have enjoyed this conversation very much. Mr Abbott I wish you had the top seat now. You would do a sight better job, as you had done in the past.

@thomassmith1148 7 месяцев назад

This comment comes way too late but please, please try to interview David McBride. It'll really open your eyes to the current political landscape in Australia. It's chilling.

@big_red_machine3547 7 месяцев назад

Regarding the last point, it’s impossible to calculate not only how many men’s lives he’s saved, but the amount of hope and goodness that he’s inspired, indirectly, in these very dark times. His work with ARC is already giving hope for surviving what’s to come.

@chilovi 7 месяцев назад

Your content is always a breath of fresh air, just like the vision I have for my 'All In' collection

@TooMuchMills 7 месяцев назад

Despite this statement is more than likely true…. How can you of seen the whole video, to say this…. He only posted it 20 minutes ago 🤨🤣

@8bitneslife1985 7 месяцев назад

The OP never said anything about watching the entire video before posting, you made that assumption. The word "always" indicates the OP was talking about Dr. Peterson's content in general.@@TooMuchMills

@martindelgado4188 7 месяцев назад

It´s a privilege to be able to listen to these kind of conversations. Leaders like Tony Abbot and Dr. Jordan Peterson contribute so much. Regarding Tony Abbot´s comment on the prayer of the faithful in a Catholic Church for the environment I would like to say that is not an alien tradition. In the Roman Missal there used to be "Seasonal Masses" dedicated to giving thanks for the harvest or asking for good weather. This was directed to societes very dependent on them. Also there were prayers for the fishermen at sea. As long as it is in a Christian Theological framework there is a place for prayer for the environment; obviously not a deification of Nature.

@brew_medic1140 6 месяцев назад

Nice one Jordan... Straight from Aus Sydney here. Peace ☮️

@terrywarren1162 7 месяцев назад

How about the camps they put people in????

@KelliJGreen 7 месяцев назад

It is absolutely ennobling to hardship or suffer, especially if we prevail or supercede. Our trials plant seeds of hope, patience and fortitude. Our inflections absolutely reveal our spirit, and in many cases, it is then up to us to create our spirit. When we look at our young adults, and are able to know hardships first hand, we know we have not a damn thing to give them to make the hardship better. At the same time, we know that pain and worry and grief and fear will hurt them so very deeply. We hope so much the tiny seeds- tiny mighty seeds- will take root in the darkness of their suffering. Noble is the best expression I've ever heard that explains the product of the transformation. And, then of course , the splash of divine madness, the residual from most afflictions, is indeed from heaven, a little kiss from God for good measure, proof that the Lord loves us completely.

@sandfish63 7 месяцев назад

Mate every human on the planet suffers. Except of course the mega rich 2% that control the show. Abbott never suffered except for his own self imposed suffering.

7 месяцев назад

Hi Jordan firstly I'd like to thank you, for things far too numerous to mention in this post, the thing I'd like to thank you for most though is for being an inspiration, for living your life in a way that finally we have a living Canadian role model that we can be proud of, happy to follow, and that for me at least, leaves me feeling proud to be Canadian again. I hope going forward, I can also live in a way, that helps preserve what that has meant for so long.... I've been long out of the country and from the view I'm getting though communication technology, it looks like the country I know and love is fast slipping into the quick sands of delusion.... That said watching this interview I couldn't help think, as I often do that your point of view just makes good sense, and if there were any common sense left in the political world it would already operate along the lines you suggest it ought... So then why isn't it? I wonder have you read the book confessions of an economic hit man? It answers some of your very valid questions I think, exposing as it does some of the machinations of the world bank, and IMF.... Though perhaps the answer is just as easily found in the first scene of the movie vanilla sky, " the answer to 99% of all questions. Money.".. Or more fundamentally greed. So then the solution to greed ? I like what Robert Morris puts forth from the gospel, tithing,/giving rebukes the devourer. Kruba Jason

@marka8274 7 месяцев назад

Australia a free country ? How did that go during covid? I couldn't return as an Australian citizen. The problem with Australia is people like these politicians that sell out Australia and keep immigrants flooding in to keep their housing portfolios up. Add negative gearing, foreign investment and there is Australian's housing problem. An average of 5 investment properties are owned by each politician. I am not against immigration, my parents are immigrants, but at least let infrastructure develop before more people immigrate. The cost of living is also ridiculous. So happy I left Australia 6 years ago. I'm disappointed to say I'm Australian. The country has every single natural resource yet pays some of the highest energy bills. Australia has so much uranium yet has no nuclear power plants. No worries, she'll be right is the Australian mantra.

@breckfreeride 7 месяцев назад

Have a stubbie and chill! Lefties are killing everything everywhere.

@kcc879 7 месяцев назад

Agree Abbott and others have sold out Australia we have not been free since the 70s at least with unlawful and unconstitutional pms such as Abbott. How can someone like him and on his pay pension form government can he talk about wealth and prosperity in Australia?!?! He’s part of the problem we’re in now. I usually have a lot of respect for Jordan but not for this interview.

@PikaBolaChan 7 месяцев назад

bro’s got a major hate boner for Australia, it really isn’t that bad lmao

@marka8274 7 месяцев назад

@@PikaBolaChan Yeah no worries, she'll be right mate 😆

@MrMattias87 7 месяцев назад

You can thank the Labor party for all those mentioned problems....both gillard and albo are responsible for that. Abbott did stop the boats and put an end to gillards bs carbon tax and sorted out the unemployment. Abbott would've stayed prime minister if he kept his religion out of his politics and that's where he went wrong. He should've stuck to the liberal policies and got on with just running the country without intertwining his religion into it.

@bthearcher 7 месяцев назад

As an Australian I do not like or agree with Tony. I can't even watch it all. I'm not a greeny but some who sits in the middle on most topics. This guy is as slipply as an eel... Actions are always louder then words.

@rodhowellnetwork28 7 месяцев назад

I respect Tony Abbot and his clear and unambiguous values, whilst at the same time being tolerant of other's views. He has his moral compass sorted, and it's good to we know exactly where he stands on issues. Something we need more of in our Australian leaders.

@norgazmic 7 месяцев назад

Lol it's a show. Australians know his real morals. He's an utter failure.

@yeahmad3730 7 месяцев назад

Would of never of imagined this crossover in a million years.

@Neojhun 7 месяцев назад

Nah this makes perfect sense. They both share some wild ideology. While having no clue about important issues. The only difference is Abbot was a government leader which screwed up policies with devastating life destroying consequences.

@soniavadnjal7553 7 месяцев назад

@@Neojhunwhat was life destroying? Can you explain?

@reubenjack4535 6 месяцев назад

This was great thankyou! Jordan could you please sit down with Paul Keating?

@adamcallaghan2135 7 месяцев назад

editors are on a new level. thank you jordan!

@triplea657aaa 7 месяцев назад

I think it's important to note that by their own figures, if we were to cut emissions by twice as much as the most extreme carbon cutting, it would change the momentum of climate change by like 4%...

@Gabrielle4870 7 месяцев назад

It's a scam

@liamc1102 7 месяцев назад

Climate change isn't a real thing. It's just a name invented for greed of the elite who plan to take your land.

@mclanaford2957 7 месяцев назад

Very interesting how we grow and see thing very differently when we reach a Mature Age

@roseburn489 7 месяцев назад

Absolutely brilliant conversation! Wholeheartedly agree with these wonderful leaders and miss this logical way of thinking in recent times.

@mack4691 7 месяцев назад

It seems that across the Western world we have entirely lost the principle of minimal necessary force. When someone deftly and judiciously handles a situation, a conflict, or a discussion, that alone is beautiful.

@MJ-gu6uu 7 месяцев назад

As Ukrainian I want to say “thank you🤝” to this man for his very sober and realistic assessment of our conflict. 🇺🇦 🇺🇸 ♥️

@patrickstamati3459 6 месяцев назад

In year 12 here in Australia, we have to do a research project, I chose to research nuclear power’s application here in Australia, 6 months and hundreds of international reports and scientific journals, publications, articles later, the issue is immediately apparent that nuclear power is the clear long term solution to the power problem, specifically here in Australia, and that the main forces that oppose it are the very organisations that claim to care, I.e, the government, energy companies and the people

@JakobusMaximus 7 месяцев назад

My personal hopelessness and misery are tied closely to existential personal issues. Other things play a factor, but some things can't really be worked around.

@roseburn489 7 месяцев назад

Be a light unto the darkness.

@JakobusMaximus 7 месяцев назад

@@roseburn489 I am both and I am neither.