THE MARIAN REFORMS - Game Guides - Rome: Total War 

The Imperial Palace lets you train Praetorian Cohort infantry after the Marian Reforms as well

I've never been able to build up fast enough to train my own Triarii before the reform is triggered, which is shame because those two feathers on their helmet are very stylish. :(

I remember when I first got the game and i read the manual (back in the good old days) it said the marian reforms will be a random event later in the game and i remember being so excited waiting for it to happen and when it happened I was unbelievably happy

The bodyguard of all factions will be changed too. The exception is britons.

You should have mentioned a trick for pre-Marian units after the Marian reforms occur. You can drag-drop damaged unit tiles over each other to effectively rebuild these older units until they are used up. So if you have 2x Hastati with 40 men each you can combine them into 1x Hastati with 80 men. Do this to get maximum value from your older units until they are gone or replaced by newer ones.

It’s such a well crafted game that while the Marian reforms strengthen the army later in the game, starting with Marian reforms would actually be a disadvantage. In the early games as the Romans you’ll be fighting barely armoured barbarians, lightly armoured and skirmisher happy Carthaginians or slow and tight formationed Greeks, and the Hastatii utterly obliterate all of those with their peela javelins. And you get them from milita barracks so you’ll pretty much always have them to hand and can just sweep the early game. But if you started with Marian reforms you’d have the Auxilla instead and they’re just defensive spearmen so you’d be really hurt by the Carthaginians skirmishing, the Greek phalanxes and fight barbarians would take far more casualties. Once you got legionaries you’d be fine but that takes a lot longer. Meanwhile come the later game, without the reforms you’d be sorely lacking in cavalry and spearmen and elite infantry to better tackle the Egyptians and the horse archer heavy factions. So it is perfectly plotted out how your army starts and finishes

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thanks man, I just started a macedon campaigh both hard difficultys. My first mission is to reclaim greece. Maintain it for some years build up the army and then destroy the roman empire. Wish me luck! i aint sleepong tonight!!!! hehe

Hi Blue. An excellent video about how to get the Marian's Reforms and what change after happen. You know that the general's bodyguard from the other factios change too? (except the chariots one). Also can you make a video about the calamities like floods, earthquakes and plagues? Because I want to know is they are random or encripted to happen in some places after some time.

really useful thanks

Thanks !!

I might be wrong but even if no Imperial Palaces are built in the provinces mentioned they Marian Reform can still happen after a certain year correct?

Amazing video

Thanks for the info

Alright thanks for the good enlightenment man

So, if all Roman factions are destroyed before they get a huge city, the Marian Reforms won't happen, and the other factions won't get the improved general bodyguards? If that's the case, it seems to be a good idea to not destroy the Romans early.

The other factions can obviously trigger it, but when possible I always try to get to an army barracks in at least one city before this happens and churn out as many Triarii as possible before the reform, since they're the best spear unit the Romans have access to.

meanwhile the Greek get Armored Hoplites within a few turns, who can beat even urban cohort head on; start as Greek, build up a few of these bois and keep spamming them as you steamroll the best provinces in the game

Imperial palace in Rome might not trigger the reforms. I remember sending a spy to Rome to check and seeing an imperial palace, before the reforms were triggered. As Brutii the moment Tarentum reached a huge city, the reforms triggered.

nice info

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I don't think urban barracks give triarii +1exp because if you go in the settlement building detaila and right click on urban barracks, it will still train urban cohorts, so only change is that you get auxillia from militia barracks, early legionary cohort from legion barracks and legionary cohort from army barracks :)

Where there sirens in the background at the end?

I keep beating the campaign before the reforms trigger

After the Marian reforms, the feeble Roman cavalry force will be much stronger with the cheap legionary cavalry and elite praetorian ones.Especially when you have the temples than gives you plus three unit experience effect.

use scipii, very hard campaign difficulty i usually manage to have about 20 turns with triarii training :)

In ost marian army barracks you forgot the Praetorian Cohort

I think there is a slight difference between pre-Marian Reforms and post-Marian Reforms Town Watch

I firmly remember training Praetorians alongside Triarii&Principes. It happened only once, but I really remember it. It was both weird and exciting at the same time. After the Marian Reforms, I received all other new units.

you forgot about praetorian cohort and armored roman general

This is weird, anytime I have played before, I was able to get some better units before Marian Reform, like Legionary cav Maybe this was patched later and I had some old version, but the way it worked is that I captured carthagfe as Julii and there were T4 stables, so I had legionary cav for recruitment, but still triarii in barracks.

does the town I will build the palace in has to be the capital? cause that's what the wiki says, and it doesn't mention that it has to be in the Italian Peninsula

Are auxilia better than hastati? Just something to think about because if a player still has poor military infrastructure for whatever reason, losing hastati suddenly could be a real loss. It's fine if you're able to crank out those early legionary cohorts and legionary cavalry of course.

What if the Romans never build an Imperial Palace? Will the reforms ever trigger?

Funny how I used to think that these things just happened for no particular reason other than passage of time

2:55 I suppose you haven’t seen that video where this guy triggers the reforms by 257 BC ;)

Really good video, but there wasn't in history something like Gaius Marius reform. There are no informations, texts from ancient historician or any evidence. Roman proffesional army was created by Augustus in 27 BC. But yes, Gaius Marius recruited legionaries from poor citizens and they were paid for by senat. But exactly same thing happend for example during Second Punic War.

Usually it’s always Patavium that triggers it

when it triggers does it affect all roman factions?

Just open flexis guard.

Is Hastati's more Powerfull than Auxiliria ?

Spqr buit the imperial palace but didnt trigger the reforms,im macedon

Arabian superior conqured.and for something else.

Still think you should be able to retrain pre marians

I'm such a noob because I'm still running around after the Marian reforms using histati. Lol they won't die.

Playing with Romans in Vamilla, your best move is actually turtle up, build your farms, ignore the Senate most of the time except to enslave a handful of enemy settlements. Tech up Italy until you got Marian Reforms, and then, recriit Legionary Cohort, preferably the Segmentata ones. They're just a bit OP compared to everything else, but still weak enough to make their battle enjoyable. Yes you could do the Urban Spam, but that kind of Cheese is too easy, it becomes unenjoyable.

How does this reform happen

Too many troops lol

You're cute but have no understanding of game mechanics. Put a general in your biggest starting city but only that one. Enslave every city conquered. All slaves go to that city. Build peasants whereever you don't need to build troops and move them to that province. Dissolve them, they are added to the population. Hire cheap mercenaries, move them to that city, dissolve. You are at 24k in no time at all, depending on unit scale. On huge it gets ridiculous. Don't play on huge though, it cripples the daft AI. Well, even more than anyway. Now all you need to do is build the palace building which also takes only a few turns. Edit: If one of your general gets a slave trader move that ancilliary to the general in home city; even more growth.

The bad thing by the time you will be able to train those bad ass units map usually half conquered by gastaties. Ofcourse if you play normally like average enjoyer and not moving peasants around like tryhard virgin with sweaty armpits