More on Edward Norton, the myth that he’s in general very difficult to work with is now widely believed to have originated because he repeatedly and vocally called out Harvey Weinsteins behavior towards Salma Hayek on the set of “Frida”. Salma Hayek was Edward Norton’s girlfriend at the time and so he constantly stood up for her and against Weinstein. In retaliation, Weinstein started the myth that he’s difficult to work with in order to silence him and ruin his career.
It's funny that he brings up that he doesn't want to be associated with one role for his entire career yet only thing people really remember him for is Fight Club.... both characters are almost alike in duality of nature
I believe the Russo Brothers have confirmed that the reason Thanos took so long to start his Infinity War crusade was because he didn't know the location of the soul stone. When he read nebula's memories after capturing her, that's when it began.
@@jusayalex the russo bros implied that Thanos didn't feel threatened by them when they answered the question about why he took so long, so it had little to do with them, supposedly.
@@mickeyveach3612 that makes no sense though. Thanos didn’t know the location of the soul stone yet, he only knew gamora lied to him. He didn’t even know it because the endgame time travel is a different timeline. If they were the same timeline then Thanos would’ve began his mission in 2012 but apparently he started it in 2018 but then he would’ve started in 2012 anyways but then started in 2018…. See why that doesn’t work? Russo brothers also aren’t Kevin feige, they are just directors, not the boss who makes all decisions. Only plausible reason for Thanos not going forward with his mission was that he knew Odin and the ancient one were alive. If he didn’t care then why didn’t he lead his own army to earth instead of making Loki do it. Loki was a usable tool for him and he gave him the space stone so he wouldn’t have to deal with those 2 big powerful characters who would molly whop Thanos. If they weren’t a big deal, then Thanos could’ve “easily” used the space stone to take down the others and take the time stone off ancient one and get the reality stone through Odin and the bifrost. His mission would’ve been accomplished many years in advance if he was willing to fight Odin and ancient one
Fun fact: comic book writer and man of action Matt Fraction helped write the story for the Iron Man 2 video game. For some reason it’s barely mentioned even though Iron Man fans (including myself) put Fraction’s run on Iron Man in high regard.
On that note, the chess thing about Obadiah Stane was more of a nod to the comics where Obadiah was pretty obsessive with winning, shown in probably what should've been the main source for Iron Man 3: The Five Nightmares, written by Matt Fraction
I can already taste the disappointment when fans don’t get what they want with this movie UPDATE: Mephisto is not in the movie, makes me wonder if people are suggesting his existence as a running joke
@@miniluv7330 I'll be a little sad if the Tobster and Garfield aren't in there as their respective Spidies but I'm still fuckin psyched that we're getting the old villains.
"Coulson is in 2 episodes of ultimate Spider-Man" Coulson is in almost every episode of all the seasons of the show. He replaced the principal of the school.
Honestly. My main gripe (at least with the modern MCU) is that it feels like no story can ever be self-contained anymore. Like. Say, for example, you wanna watch Doctor Strange Multiverse of Madness. You'd have to have watched wandavision, spider-man no way home or any other show/ movies that deal with the multiverse, or else half the story literally makes no sense because the movie expects you to know about all of the shit that happened in other media between characters you may not even care about. And it always feels like every movie needs to set up like 20 others during it's runtime. And yes. Cameos are cool, but it genuinely gets exhausting at times. Just like how not every movie needs to have a world ending threat (which is also a gripe I have with the newer ones), not every single movie or show needs to set up a 100 different moives or shows. You NEED to have smaller, more self-contained stories if you want the big ones to feel like they actually matter.
New one to add to the conspiracy theory iceberg, the multi-verse is real and we're watching dramatisations of different realities in movies and tv shows
I believe that was actually a concept in the Silver Age DC comics, with our universe labeled Earth-Prime before Crisis on Infinite Earths happened. I wanna say Marvel did a similar thing in their comics multiverse, but their universe labeling system is too complicated for me to remember any of it besides the mainline comics being Earth 616.
Honestly I do have to appreciate your script writing. It feels like the near-perfect balance of information, personality, and humor. It's given all your videos a nice distinct quality.
Appreciate it. My biggest problem with iceberg videos is that sometimes they can get really boring when it's just "list information. next tier. list information. next tier." You gotta have a personality y'know? Anyways thanks for watching!
41:12 *”If I had a nickle for every time I’ve mentioned the Philadelphia Experiment I’d have two nickles. Which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice.”*
I love how stuff like Star Wars, Nirvana, and Rocky are kept in all international versions of Winter Soldier. Shows how impactful those properties really are.
Wait I just realized something, that TVA agent said Pigpen and not Pigpen077.That means every Pigpen without a 077 at the end of their name is a variant.
Great iceberg man. By the way, Tony Stark mentions The Big Lebowski in Endgame, but Jeff Bridgers, who played Jeffrey Lebowski, also plays Obadiah Stane in the first Iron Man. I think it might be somewhere in the iceberg.
@Bring Peter Griffin to Super Smash Bros that isn’t to strange. We know Nick fury and Samuel L Jackson exist in the same world of marvel ultimates both looking alike
Reminds me of how Brooklyn Nine-Nine had an episode where Gina leaves to watch Hamilton: An American Musical, written by Lin-Manuel Miranda and originally starring him as the lead character for the first few years of the New York City run. A couple of seasons later, Lin-Manuel Miranda appears in the show itself but not as himself, instead acting as Amy's brother. Not long after that, the character Terry Jeffords references the Disney film Moana, in which the vast majority of the music was written by... Lin-Manuel Miranada.
Probably will be outdated in a couple of months, but regarding Thanos: Titan Consumed at around 52:00, I've heard a theory that the reason why the novel is not canon to the MCU, despite the fact that the book was announced to be canon, was due to the fact that there would have been contradicting information regarding the Mind Stone, as in the novel, Thanos got the stone from a wizard, with people speculating that Eternals or a future project will have a different explanation for the former location of the Mind Stone. Just thought that was interesting to share, also, great video btw.
I actually bought the lego giant man set right before watching Civil War. I was killing time at a store before going in to the cinema and saw it for the fist time, thought it was cool but it hadn’t cross my mind that it could be a spoiler. I didn’t made the connection until watching the airport scene and thinking “wait is Antman going to…” and then Giantman appearing and blowing my mind.
You're probably one of the most underrated iceberg creators right now. The time and effort you put into these videos are great and I hope you get a bigger break soon
I watched it all like 7 hours ago. Quite the good video, and on the usual level of quality for your channel, which would be high. I learnt some stuff about the MCU I never knew, and the final layer segment you always have where you play the role of a character related to the franchise you talked about didn't disappoint, as always. I'm impressed at how short the turnout for these long icebergs is, for their quality. I suggest that one day, you should cover the Metal Gear Solid iceberg someone made, as it's an interesting iceberg to read. media.discordapp.net/attachments/764288579924656138/802743306916200458/received_783690128885332_1.jpeg
I don't know that you read most of these comments, but you have by far the most thorough and informative breakdowns and I really enjoy watching these. If you ever want to move away from the iceberg format (and maybe adjust the audio a tad), I'll be right there for it. And Iron Man is cool.
There's apparently Rob Zombie cameos in all of James Gunn's work, and, apparently, he's the Ravagers ship voice? I heard something about that, but I can't find anything online about his cameo scene, which is surprising, considering Rob's a fairly well-known dude, and this IS an MCU film after all. Hopefully someone uploads the clip online, just for the sake of not having to scroll through the entire film to find Rob's voice.
I love your content, but I feel like there was an issue with the sound in this vid. Like every new subject started out really quiet and then got progressively louder. It wasn't super obvious, but for someone like me who is really hard of hearing, it was difficult to get through because I was having to adjust the volume constantly.
Gonna have to agree with your choice of Scarlet Witch as MCU wife, loved how you just showed the scientology hole for the mention of Tom Cruise as iron man lmfao
I enjoyed this video a lot. Just letting you know there's a weird audio issue where every clip starts out very quiet and gets gradually louder. Thought I was going crazy for a second lol.
In 1:07:15 the Grim Reaper's helmet being under the floor along with bones is a reference to "The Vision", a great comic book that was a massive inspiration to the show. In that storyline, Vision's artificial wife, Virginia, accidentally kills the Reaper when he attacks her house, so she buries the body expecting that Vision will never find out
Sucks that Edward Norton didn’t reprise Bruce Banner,still love Mark Ruffalo. Also I would have loved a Drax and Mantis film. (side-note: the Mcu’s influence on Mvci still makes me sad in 2021)
To anyone who wants it here it is MCU In chronological order (With the "Extended Universe") 1945 - Captain America: The First Avenger 1946 - Agent Carter (S1) 1947 - Agent Carter (S2) 1948 - Agent Carter (One-Shot) 1995 - Captain Marvel 2010 - Iron Man 2011 - The Incredible Hulk 2011 - Iron Man 2 2011 - A Funny Thing Happened... (One-Shot) 2011 - Thor 2012 - The Consultant (One-Shot) 2012 - The Avengers 2012 - Item-47 (One-Shot) 2012 - Iron Man 3 2013 - All Hail The King (One-Shot) 2013 - Agents of Shield (S1E1-7) 2013 - Thor: The Dark World 2013 - Agents of Shield (S1E8-16) 2014 - Captain America: The Winter Soldier 2014 - Agents of Shield (S1E17-22) 2014 - Guardians of The Galaxy 2014 - Guardians of The Galaxy Vol.2 2014 - Daredevil (S1) 2014 - Jessica Jones (S1) 2015 - Cloak and Dagger (S1) 2015 - Agents of Shield (S2E1-19) 2015 - Avengers: Age of Ultron 2015 - Agents of Shield (S2E20-22) 2015 - WHIH Newsfront (S1) 2015 - Ant-Man 2015 - Agents of Shield (S3E1-10) 2015 - Daredevil (S2) 2015 - Agents of Shield (S3E11-19) 2015 - Luke Cage (S1) 2016 - Cloak and Dagger (S2) 2016 - Iron Fist (S1) 2016 - The Defenders (S1) 2016 - WHIH Newsfront (S2) 2016 - Captain America: Civil War 2016 - Black Widow 2016 - Black Panther 2016 - Agents of Shield (S3E20-22) 2016 - Spider-Man: Homecoming 2016 - Punisher (S1) 2017 - Doctor Strange 2017 - Agents of Shield: Sling-Shot (S1) 2017 - Agents of Shield (S4) 2017 - Inhumans (S1) 2017 - Jessica Jones (S2) 2017 - Luke Cage (S2) 2017 - Agents of Shield (S5E1-10) 2017 - Thor: Ragnarok 2017 - Iron Fist (S2) 2017 - Daredevil (S3) 2017 - Runaways (S1) 2018 - Runaways (S2) 2018 - Punisher (S2) 2018 - Jessica Jones (S3) 2018 - Agents of Shield (S5E11-18) 2018 - Ant-Man and The Wasp 2018 - Agents of Shield (S5E19-22) 2018 - Avengers: Infinity War 2019 - Agents of Shield (S6) 2019 - Agents of Shield (S7) 2023 - Avengers: Endgame 0000 - Loki 0000 - What If...? 2023 - WandaVision 2023 - Hawkeye 2024 - The Falcon and The Winter Soldier 2024 - Peter's To Do List (One-Shot) 2024 - Spider-Man: Far From Home 2024 - Shang-Chi
1:26:14 I’m surprised that you forgot to mention the Tadashi Chip when you talked about Jacosta. The Tadashi in question is in association to Big Hero 6 and the creation of Baymax as they are Marvel Properties and Stan Lee was in the post credit scene in that movie.
God, a Fate iceberg sound like hell, but you can knock it out of the park like usual. Also I don’t know how intensive this could be but a JoJo iceberg could be interesting.
Love the editing man, the video was well researched and intercutting the commercials was a nice way to help the flow. 10/10 looking forward to seeing we're your content goes
“Not unlike his podcast mostly nitpicking” had me laughing so hard..the references to it just make me laugh after watching him for a few months now lol
Spider-Man Homecoming, Thor: Ragnarok, Avengers: Endgame, Black Widow, Iron Man 3, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, Thor: The Dark World and Captain America: Civil War are all the same movie
The Silver Surfer/Galactus one had me. Especially the part where Thanos’s ships started firing at the atmosphere and I was really ready for either a shining humanoid on a board or an eldritch man partially entering earth
There is a timeline where a random guy commented on a random video on the Iceberg of MCU which is a film franchise based on our sacred timeline, prune him.
You mentioned that Avenger's campus is the name of 3 parks including Florida, but that's not true. There is no avenger's campus in Florida and there won't be one due to copyright issues with Universal making a Marvel Comics Island at their park prior to Disney buying Marvel. They have a Guardians of the Galaxy ride being built at Epcot but that's it.
I was so lost watching this and could barely understand you because you talked so fast, so the closed captions were way off as well so i was stuck either mishearing you or misreading. I was like 30 minutes in to this and was like “why is he talking about these movies? what’s the point” and left the video, maybe i missed why, and the whole point of this video, but it doesn’t take away from its great quality, keep it up my guy
@@Pigpen_YT I know, that’s what I’m saying, your speech was so quick that it was unable to clarify for me at times it was hard to pick up on what you were saying. no worries tho my guy, still a great video
I hope Marvel makes something with the Synthetic Man (aka the original human torch), be it a show or movie or whatever. I find his story really interesting. Too interesting to just tease him in the background of a scene in The first avenger and not bring him back again.
i was thinking they could make an invaders show or movie. the invaders is a team from WWII from the comics made up of captain america, namor, and the original human torch.
Some other random facts that I somehow know: * Wong was not supposed to appear in the MCU, as his character in the comics was viewed as a racial stereotype. Scott Derrickson only added him after the Tilda Swinton whitewashing controversy (35:05) * Grandmaster appeared in the credits of GOTG 2 * Before appearing in Luke Cage, Tilda Johnson was supposed to be Killmonger's girlfriend in Black Panther. * Other actors who auditioned for Captain America were Chris Pratt, Wyatt Russel, Ryan Phillippe, Will Smith, and John Krasinski * James Gunn wanted to make a Thunderbolts movie * Peter's suitcase in Far From Home belonged to Uncle Ben * As Kang the Conquerer is a descendant of Reed Richards, there is a chance that Mr. Fantastic will be played by a black actor. * Kraglin was filmed in the final battle of Avengers: Endgame * Aside from Stan Lee, other comic book writers made cameos in the MCU as well. These include Joe Michael Straczynski and Walt Simonson (Thor), Jim Starlin (Avengers: Endgame), and Ed Brubaker (Captain America: The Winter Soldier)
From what I've seen, the "every villain spawns from Stark" thing is only a thing for Spider-Man villains, which I kind of agree with. I don't know what people who apply it to the rest of the movies are smoking, tho.
Why do people treat Chadwick Boseman like he was some kind of legendary actor? He's only known for one role. Yet people treat him like he's on the same level as Sir Ian McKellen, Sir Sean Connery, Jack Nicholson, or Marlon Brando. Those were legendary actors. In 20 years, who's really going to even know who Chadwick Boseman was?
Probably bait but w/e. He was an extremely good actor who was important to the African American community for a variety of reasons. Also he seems to have been a genuinely good person and died far too young. People will remember Boseman as a great actor who could’ve done even more incredible work who tragically passed away. It’s really not that hard to understand
@@Fun_With_Google_Translate I mean you can literally just google “why Chadwick Boseman was important.” I’d imagine if you actually were interested in this question you’d search it yourself instead of relying off me. Man did a bunch of movies while suffering from cancer, portrayed one of the most iconic African American pop culture characters, won multiple awards for his work in Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom, Da 5 Bloods, Get on Up, Marshall, and Black Panther. He also portrayed several historical African American figures like Jackie Robinson, James Brown and Thurgood Marshall. He was very notable with charity work including one instance where he donated $4.2 million in equipment to hospitals in black communities affected by Covid-19.
21:14 This didn't age well. Not only has Inhumans already been retconned, but so will most of the Defenders series. As the actor for Colleen said, only Cox was able to survive the MCU Netflix purge, he was told early on that he'd be brought back for feature films. But Jessica Henwick was instead asked which of the two characters she would like to play, Colleen, or her Shang-Chi role. It does appear that the Defenders shows are non-canon to the MCU now.
Yes I mispronounced some stuff Also I have no idea what happened to the audio. It was fine when I listened to it in Vegas but after I rendered it, it added in the parts where it gets quieter. Idk what happened
Loving the icebergs man, your pronunciations used to make me incredibly upset but now I just get a good laugh, I know that you put a ridiculous amount of research and work into these videos. Keep up the good work man.
The good comparison I have heard to mcu movies is 2 scoop ice cream except the first scoop is always vanilla and the second can be anything you want. Also great video and I loved your ultimate cinematic universe video too.
This is such a good and entertaining video, but i just want to say that i think you shouldn't keep changing the volume since it goes from like super duper low to normal volume.
I think they should establish the Ancient One has managed to live for so long because they've lived as different races throughout time and that Tilda Swinton's version was their final one.
Foggy Nelson had an uncredited cameo in Avengers Endgame during Steve’s support group scene. He was uncredited due to the controversy between Netflix and Marvel at the time, but marvel wanted to include at least one connection to that universe.
They confirmed All the tv shows that wasn't created for Disney Plus is officially not canon in the main MCU universe. So we are safe from the Inhumans.
In Age Of Ultron, one of the A.I chips is named Tadashi. Hiro's brother from Big Hero 6 and also the same name of the chip Baymax has, Big Hero 6 also was a Marvel Comics series before being animated movie. Also the Slap Chop guy is in Iron Man 3