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The Math Behind Spot it! 

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How did the creators of the game Spot It design the cards so that any two cards will always share one image in common? Find out in this video, then check out more fano plane math (and a printable "expansion set" of the missing two cards) at:
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@ScienceMom
@ScienceMom 5 лет назад
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@alexdavis5576
@alexdavis5576 4 года назад
Has anyone else ever felt so triumphant when they think that they have found two cards that don't have a match... and then found a match between the cards and felt incredibly stupid?
@ScienceMom
@ScienceMom 4 года назад
Every single game!
@dmehta6287
@dmehta6287 3 года назад
Definitely
@rebeccayu4446
@rebeccayu4446 Год назад
Yep
@zachalsup9712
@zachalsup9712 3 года назад
There was massive time put into this great video
@kiiimberlyy
@kiiimberlyy 3 года назад
Also had six snowmen! Yes, it is 12:22am and my boyfriend and I decided to watch this video.
@ScienceMom
@ScienceMom 3 года назад
Thanks for letting us know!
@RestingKitten
@RestingKitten 3 года назад
After extensive research, we also found only 6 snowmen. We spent maybe 1/3 of the time playing the game and 2/3 trying to work out the mathematics behind it.
@AnExPor
@AnExPor 3 года назад
Kind of crazy. I found this video by watching Mathologer videos, looking at his merch, searching a topic of one of the shirts (Fano plane), and found this video. The crazy thing is, I have wondered for more than a few years how this game was made. Thank you for the explanation and Mathologer for leading me here. I should probably also go check my deck for snowmen.
@itempool653
@itempool653 5 лет назад
Someone should sell the missing two cards as an "expansion".
@ScienceMom
@ScienceMom 5 лет назад
Ha! I love it. I made a version of the two extra cards just for fun and added them to our deck - but they didn't have the back of the card. Maybe I'll make a double-sided file to print up and add it to the description of this video. I wouldn't sell it because that would defintiely be infringing on the rights of the folks who made the game, but I think it would be a fun thing to post for free.
@vancerivervillage
@vancerivervillage 3 года назад
Thank you so much for this explanation, I'm no good at math and I surely didn't understand the terminology used but the diagrams were very easy to follow, at first the blue gradient was difficult to see, but with the PDF I was able to assign the shade of blue with the colors of the rainbow and construct my own diagrams. I was able to make my own spot it game, though it took a long time to complete, but it works perfectly, Thank you again
@kobyhansen3300
@kobyhansen3300 3 года назад
You guys just blew my mind
@yimeng1883
@yimeng1883 6 месяцев назад
If I hadn't been curious and counted the number of icons, I really wouldn't have expected it to have so many icons. I also wouldn't have thought that there was such an interesting mathematical principle behind it. Thank you for your insightful explanation. You made me understand better. Thanks for your clear explanation! Amazing!
@w7jhb
@w7jhb 3 года назад
I suspect that all games have identical cards. Probably the reason they print 55 has to do with fitting efficiently on a print sheet. Maybe 11 wide & 5 tall, etc.
@isaacsumner
@isaacsumner 5 лет назад
You have answered a question that has dogged me. Thank you.
@ScienceMom
@ScienceMom 5 лет назад
Happy to help!
@wendysolomon1608
@wendysolomon1608 Год назад
Just did a full sort of the cards with my Calculus students. SO FUN!! Our two missing cards are almost identical to your two, but our version has a few substituted symbols. Thanks for the fun.
@vittorio1159
@vittorio1159 3 года назад
After 2 years Stand-up Maths made a video about this game
@chezpaiz
@chezpaiz 4 года назад
Thanks for the break down. I was trying to figure this out in terms of combination complexity. I figured that 57 images represents about 5 bits of complexity with a little room to grow ( 2^5 == 64). Then each card has 40 bits of complexity which means that you could make over 1 trillion cards each containing 8 images. Of course you’d throw away most of them, but since 8 snowmen left to right is the same as 8 snowman right to left. Regardless, of 1 trillion possible cards, you only need 55. What you showed me was how they chose the right 55 cards.
@user-wg9ey6bu2p
@user-wg9ey6bu2p 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing this!!
@chrisl2722
@chrisl2722 5 месяцев назад
Really nice video, thanks for doing this! I play spot it with my kids a lot and really was puzzled... I spent quite a while trying to make a python implementation to create a deck and actually had a 'brute force' method that basically populated card N with images, then added images from card N to cards {N+1, deck_size}, and then had a filtering step to then delete invalid cards. I got it to create a deck with 15 cards that each had 1 match with each other, but couldn't get it to work higher... and now I know why! Will be using this as an example for my daughter as to why learning math is important 🙂. Thank you!
@TimeWarpKing
@TimeWarpKing 7 месяцев назад
Such an amazing video. The more I learn about this game the more I come to love it. For me, the maths behind it is what makes it so special. It's a fun game for kids and adults alike to play, sure. But it's ease of play, non-reliance on culture or language, and of course the intelligent design that can open up some fantastic conversations with kids about maths and how we can use it to make sense of our world in a practical way, is what makes it one of the best games ever made.
@ScienceMom
@ScienceMom 7 месяцев назад
I agree!
@gnohymmij
@gnohymmij 3 года назад
My daughter just I just looked thru the deck, we are missing the same ones!
@anarurua1934
@anarurua1934 11 месяцев назад
I checked this out and we’re also missing a snowman ⛄️ Thank you for the video!
@emilygoosman1835
@emilygoosman1835 10 месяцев назад
My Spot it! deck only had 6 snowmen as well!
@lauraerickson5624
@lauraerickson5624 3 года назад
Only 6 snowmen for us as well, thanks for the great explanation!
@hallsoflearning
@hallsoflearning 4 года назад
love this! unveiling the math and patterns behind an awesome game 👌🏾
@patriciabarkman5912
@patriciabarkman5912 3 года назад
In the image @ 4:40 where are all cards in the deck are shown, there are 8 YinYang symbols. There is one YinYang in each column -- the right-most column has it hidden under the sky blue line in the 5th one from the top. Having a symbol repeated 8 times appears to break the rule for a 7X7 grid.
@smaus5632
@smaus5632 11 месяцев назад
My kids pulled out our spot it game, sorted through for all the snowmen, found only 6. I think they skipped a few steps. We are ready to build our own deck now!
@pennymarcus8094
@pennymarcus8094 Год назад
Thank you for helping to explain this game. I had created my own spreadsheet to begin the process of figuring it out, but wasn't able to complete the task. p.s., I too only have 6 snowmen.
@halafaour9484
@halafaour9484 2 года назад
great video!
@ScienceMom
@ScienceMom 2 года назад
Thanks!
@aqueminiQ2
@aqueminiQ2 5 лет назад
Six snowmen here as well and missing the same cards! Must be standard issue.
@brainfreeze7979
@brainfreeze7979 3 года назад
On the part of the manufacturer an interesting aside would have been to have a different two cards missing, eventually you could build a complete deck from the missing cards of the other decks!
@ScienceMom
@ScienceMom 3 года назад
Agreed!
@smookya
@smookya 3 года назад
i have slightly different version of the game and the two cards that i miss are almost identical cards to yours, but not exactly the same: on the left card (the one with the cactus) i do not have a flower, but instead a stop sign (red). and on the right (the one with the dog) i have a hammer (orange) instead of the word "stop". it took me a while to build the matrix...
@marcpullan5242
@marcpullan5242 3 года назад
Great video with detailed, concise and visually appealing information. I think I understood most of it except for how you determined the angle at which the lines intersect the dots And How you determined the density of these lines; Diagram 1 (top left) at 3:28 shows all the 7 lines spread over 7 dots whereas diagram 3 and diagram 7 show all the 7 lines crammed in the space roughly three dots everytime it wraps around Please tell me if I have misunderstood something here
@ScienceMom
@ScienceMom 3 года назад
I think you are understanding it correctly. Pick a pattern such as "up 1 right 2" and find all the points on that line. Then make the parallel lines. I like to think of it as a chess knight jumping around a board where the edges wrap, but it's difficult to make that more precise. A more formal way of doing it is to label the 49 points using x and y coordinates: (1,1), (1,2), ... ,(7,7) Then look at lines of the form ax+y=b where "a" is any number from -3 to 3 and b is any of the possible remainders when dividing by 7.
@paulkindervater842
@paulkindervater842 3 года назад
After a lot of counting, and recounting, we too have only six snowmen. Another 14 cards have a count of 7. Then I worked out the two cards identical to yours. NB Our packs have ART, BALLOON, OK and STOP. I have seen on the internet TORTOISE, HAMMER, NO-ENTRY and BIRD, especially regarding PYTHON programming. IMHO The same symbols, in a different order, will produce a totally different pack of cards. I think you can even see this when N=2.
@jackiechico4673
@jackiechico4673 4 года назад
We had 6 snowmen also...
@ceciliadean4524
@ceciliadean4524 3 года назад
I'm not sure if this relates to the explanation provided, but I just finished a Linear Algebra course and so want to understand via vectors If we consider each card to be a vector in 7-D, and they are not parallel or the same vector, can we think of the matching icon on each card as in fact the point at which these vectors intersect? It's kind of inverse to what you explained here but it's how I understood it.
@ScienceMom
@ScienceMom 3 года назад
It's possible your mental picture is not far off, but I don't see how to match the cards up with vectors as you propose. You could think of it as the Cartesian product of two copies of Z mod 7 (finite fields) and get your parallel lines from the linear equations of the form ax+b. That would be using a 2-dimensional vector space.
@jule8161
@jule8161 4 года назад
The 8 spots you've taken around the matrix, could they also be on a different place or do they have to be like this? (compare minute 3:47 to 3:58) Would be nice to know the secret of determing the slope :)
@ScienceMom
@ScienceMom 4 года назад
The location of those outer points was not important. They could be anywhere. To get the possible slopes, you want to include lines in each of the following "directions": horizontal, vertical, "over 1 up 1", "over 2 up 1", "over 3 up 1" and so on. In the video, you'd get the same points using "over 7 up 1" as you get doing "over 1 down 1".
@MrGoandrush
@MrGoandrush 3 года назад
I have Dobble, and have 6 snowman too
@nurxg
@nurxg 4 года назад
Awesome, thanks!
@Nerding4Nature
@Nerding4Nature 6 лет назад
I've played Spot It quite a bit and am pretty surprised to learn that there are 57 images. It feels like we all shout the same 10 most of the time. I wonder why they excluded two cards.
@ScienceMom
@ScienceMom 6 лет назад
We were also surprised to realize that there are 57 images. It's WAY higher than what you'd intuitively guess after playing the game. Any two cards will have 15 images between them, and you're rarely looking at more than that at a time. Since discovering that the Snowman only has 6 versions of itself, we've decided that Snowman matches should be worth extra points. ;) In most of the variations in Spot it, you pull out one card to match against, and then divide the rest of the cards between the players. So our guess as to why they removed 2 cards was that 54 is a number that divides more easily when playing with small groups (a multiple of 2 and 3) than 56 (multiple of 2 and 7). But who knows?
@csillakaszas7285
@csillakaszas7285 3 года назад
@@ScienceMom if they sold the full pack, they could have just told the players to put aside the extra card when they divided the pack. My guess is: it's related to production. One sheet of carton covers all the cards, and with this number they have minimal waste, and decent sized cards. It's a shame though.
@richardkeswick2440
@richardkeswick2440 3 года назад
I have read it is because they use standard card printers for their decks, and a standard card deck includes 55 cards - 52 standard cards + 2 jokers + 1 advertisement card.
@familyaccount8347
@familyaccount8347 3 года назад
Hi! Just wondering how to work out which two cards are missing? I am lost😂xx
@ScienceMom
@ScienceMom 3 года назад
In the description there is a link to a handout we made that has print out of the two missing cards. It also has a document that explains a little more about the math
@rahazoubi6645
@rahazoubi6645 3 года назад
Intresting... I've got the concept behind the game..but a question came on mind, which is: if two cards were got rid of, then there are at least 5 more symbols that aren't repeated 7 times, the same as the snowman symbol right? @science mom
@IavorDiatchki
@IavorDiatchki 2 года назад
Each card has 8 pictures on it, and any 2 cards have only 1 picture in common. So removing 2 cards eliminates 2 copies of one picture (the common one) and 1 copy of 14 other pictures. The 14 other pictures are the ones that appear 7 times, but because the snowmen were the repeated picture they only appear 6 times. All other symbols should appear 8 times.
@user-lb9sx4jp5g
@user-lb9sx4jp5g 3 года назад
Hi, im a graphic desinger and need to make this game, unfortunately, im bad in math... i followed the video, and whats not understood with the scimatics, is that you use blue color gradient to show the lines between the dots, its very hard to distinguish between the colors...
@ScienceMom
@ScienceMom 3 года назад
Thanks for this feedback! THere's a link in the description to a PDF download that you can get from this post: www.patreon.com/posts/19693536 It has some more information about the math. Hope that helps!
@user-lb9sx4jp5g
@user-lb9sx4jp5g 3 года назад
​@@ScienceMom thanks for the super-speed replay! ye i already downloaded the pdf, didnt understood too :) as i said, im bad at math.. is there a way you can change the color of the lines and put a pdf in your link?
@ScienceMom
@ScienceMom 3 года назад
@@user-lb9sx4jp5g Not today, unfortunately. But I'll tell Math Dad that we have a request for a follow up video and we'll add it to our list. Fano planes are a fairly complex mathematical topic. Don't give up if it doesn't make sense the first couple of times you try to understand it. Practice makes permanence, and learning new knowledge takes time. You'll get it!
@skojigoquist9288
@skojigoquist9288 4 года назад
Can you make a video about six images and 31 cards?
@Quietgraces
@Quietgraces 3 года назад
Sedryn says that he also is missing two snowmen!!!
@jessicasrewop4352
@jessicasrewop4352 3 года назад
we found six snowmen too!
@jesykahrose
@jesykahrose 2 года назад
I also only have 6 snowman cards!!
@amelyanolet4258
@amelyanolet4258 Год назад
only 6 snowman for us too!
@foramdoshi6928
@foramdoshi6928 3 года назад
The subscribers and views are same 36k!!
@foramdoshi6928
@foramdoshi6928 3 года назад
I think the game is called dobble
@skojigoquist9288
@skojigoquist9288 3 года назад
I made it with 6 images and it totally failed. :( Quite a few cards are not matching
@abbyhessenauer1110
@abbyhessenauer1110 Год назад
We only had 5 snowmen☃️💀
@ScienceMom
@ScienceMom 4 года назад
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@suzannehulbert888
@suzannehulbert888 3 года назад
The pack I use with my students has 6 snowman
@ashleycase5828
@ashleycase5828 11 месяцев назад
Yes we had 6 snowman.
@thefvpchannel4200
@thefvpchannel4200 3 года назад
Mind blown. I only got six snowmen!!!
@owenradtke9444
@owenradtke9444 4 года назад
Yes. We only have 6 snowmen
@ScienceMom
@ScienceMom 4 года назад
Thanks for checking! It's good to have it confirmed.
@jamesc.5213
@jamesc.5213 4 года назад
I made a Spot It clone using images of Hot Wheels cars.
@hermanoscott1
@hermanoscott1 4 года назад
Any link to a PDF of this?
@gabrielestrada258
@gabrielestrada258 3 года назад
I only have 6 snowman on my deck.
@midnightandtommy
@midnightandtommy 4 года назад
We call it Dobble.
@joshuaprice1
@joshuaprice1 3 года назад
Missing 2 snowmen
@johnhibbs75
@johnhibbs75 4 года назад
Only 6 snowman here.
@ScienceMom
@ScienceMom 4 года назад
Excellent! That seems to be the consensus.
@luffyd7579
@luffyd7579 4 года назад
Actually, I watch this video three times and coundn't understand the principle. So sad.
@karelheijs6323
@karelheijs6323 3 года назад
6 snowman
@amylillico7311
@amylillico7311 5 лет назад
Hi, I’ve been looking at the maths behind dobble recently and it’s so interesting how it was achieved! Just wondering how did you manage to create the two additional cards whilst also ensuring that they didn’t have more than one picture the same as an other card?
@ScienceMom
@ScienceMom 3 года назад
We did! I included then in the handout (It's a free download) that is listed in the description.
@annabelleminkova1620
@annabelleminkova1620 5 лет назад
I don't understand why they would not just provide all the 57 cards, if they had printed them?
@ScienceMom
@ScienceMom 5 лет назад
All we could figure is that they wanted the number of cards to be divisible by both 2 and 3 so that when those (likely most common?) number of players sat down to play, the cards divided out evenly. Most games start with one card in the middle and 54 divides evenly into 2 and 3 whereas 56 doesn't.
@annabelleminkova1620
@annabelleminkova1620 5 лет назад
@@ScienceMom Oh right; thanks for the response!
@annabelleminkova1620
@annabelleminkova1620 5 лет назад
@@ScienceMom It is possible then, to get rid of as many as cards as you needed, and for the game to still work? Or do the cards that get removed need to also be in a certain quantity or divisible by a certain number.
@ScienceMom
@ScienceMom 5 лет назад
Good question. The game will work just fine with any cards removed.
@ericbrown9511
@ericbrown9511 5 лет назад
@@ScienceMom Just read an article on this (led to this youtube). It suggests that there are 55 cards because card-printing machinery (dies, blanks, etc) have forever been built for 55 cards -- 52 in a regular deck, plus two jokers, plus an advertising card. Since can be played with fewer cards, easier to print 55 than retool machines. As far as common divisors, as you say, since you can remove any card without messing up the game, there is no reason not to distribute evenly and discard the "modulus" (extra cards after even division).
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