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The Matter With Things, Iain McGilchrist 

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In ‘The Matter with Things’, Iain McGilchrist tackles the big questions: Who are we? What is the world? How can we understand consciousness, matter, space and time? What happens if we neglect the sacred and divine?
He argues that we have become enslaved to an account of things dominated by a partial view dominated by the brain’s left hemisphere, one that blinds us to an awe-inspiring reality that is all around us, had we but eyes to see it. He suggests that in order to understand ourselves and the world we need science and intuition, reason and imagination, not just one or two. When we do, we tap into an understanding that is both profound and beautiful, in line with the deepest traditions of human wisdom.
Dr. Iain McGilchrist is a psychiatrist, philosopher and literary scholar. He is a Quondam Fellow of All Souls College, Oxford, a Fellow of the Royal College of Psychiatrists and of the Royal Society of Arts, as well as a former Clinical Director of the Bethlem Royal & Maudsley Hospital, London. With a gift for synthesising neuroscience, culture and philosophy, his thought has provided essential frames for making sense of the times we live in and proved particularly influential on Rebel Wisdom over the years.
Video Overview:
0:00 Introduction
4:27 New book 'The Matter with Things'
15:17 Previous book, 'The Master and His Emissary'
30:45 What is true?
39:09 What is mind?
47:36 The sense of the sacred
52:38 Opposites
59:55 Is polarisation bad or necessary?
1:07:55 Is the world getting better or worse?
1:12:23 The God question
1:17:48 The sacred and the quantum
1:20:13 Lessons to take from the new book
1:29:35 Closing

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28 июн 2024

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@christheother9088
@christheother9088 2 года назад
I'm in my mid 60's now, and despite years of atheism and skepticism, my mystical experiences eventually became too numerous to ignore. Then the doors opened.
@MegaSteve1957
@MegaSteve1957 2 года назад
Always been a don't know, now of 64 years & counting but due to a very short near death experience, preceded a few years earlier by what I can only describe as visions after my wife's death - Iain's work is like a growing light in what was once for me an avoided opaque corner.
@tbuczinsky
@tbuczinsky 2 года назад
Me too. Looking forward to McGilchrist’s conversation with Rupert Spira on January 30.
@saransong5547
@saransong5547 2 года назад
@@tbuczinsky do you have a link to it?
@tbuczinsky
@tbuczinsky 2 года назад
@@saransong5547 I don’t think they’ve released it yet. When they do, I’ll try to remember to post the link here.
@saransong5547
@saransong5547 2 года назад
@@tbuczinsky thank you so much! 👍
@cwfilli
@cwfilli 2 года назад
Iain McGilchrist simply blows me away every time I read his work or listen to him speak. A true master. And hats off to David for conducting the interview so brilliantly.
@Xtazieyo
@Xtazieyo 2 года назад
This is the content that made me subscribe 2 years ago!
@alion242
@alion242 2 года назад
I'd second that!
@chris432t6
@chris432t6 2 года назад
Agreed. Thanks
@dexterquotidian
@dexterquotidian 2 года назад
I am halfway through 'The Master and his Emissary' at page 410 - cannot describe how excited i am to learn that Ian's new work is finally out. What a great man, not just as an intellectual but also as a person
@calfinbro
@calfinbro 2 года назад
I am almost done with the book, in the second to last chapter. It's almost too good to speak of!
@JayJay-wg5ex
@JayJay-wg5ex Год назад
i agree, he is wonderful
@cheri238
@cheri238 9 месяцев назад
I agree ❤
@segasys1339
@segasys1339 2 года назад
A lot of this is very reminiscent of Michael Polanyi's concept of tacit knowledge. A decade ago I actually had an elderly poli sci professor, Maben Poirier of Concordia University, who gave an undergraduate course on Polanyi's contribution to contemporary epistemology that I just happened to sign up for on what amounted to a whim. At the time it seemed like I had embarked on an obscure, abstract journey into an antiquarian epistemological debate that only handful of people in a tiny class out of a cohort of 15,000 was studying. In time I would come to see it as far and away the best course I have ever taken and that it was a shame so few people were there to share it with us. To see the concepts we studied come back into the fore of sense-making many decades after Polanyi's era is quite nice. This is great stuff, thanks for putting it out there for us.
@intellectualdarkweb236
@intellectualdarkweb236 2 года назад
I want to hear a conversation with Ian McGilchrist and Jonathan Pageau! I see not so obvious similarities in their world views
@LS-qu7yc
@LS-qu7yc 2 года назад
I love Iain McGilchrist so much. I read Master and his Emissary and suddenly the world made so much more sense to me. He is irreplaceable and I would agree, he is up there with the most famous philosophers- even above them because he explains the differing viewpoints. What a gem of a human. So brilliant.
@katejudson8907
@katejudson8907 Год назад
You might also like Rosi Braidotti. Don't be put off by the titles like transhumanism, which sounds populist. Her theoretical maps are so rich with research across classical and indigenous thinkers and quantum physics as a materialist. I'm trusting my intuition here that you'll like her work. 😉
@cheri238
@cheri238 9 месяцев назад
​@@katejudson8907 Thank you.❤
@jordanalexander
@jordanalexander 2 года назад
Iain McGilchrist is just an absolute intellectual blessing - I feel so fortunate every time I hear him speak.
@scottjones-singersongwrite6193
@scottjones-singersongwrite6193 2 года назад
I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that Iain McGilchrist is one of the most insightful minds in public discourse to come along in a very long time. If you are reading this, Iain, may I thank you for your inspiring message. Keep up the great work.
@jewelsbypodcasterganesh
@jewelsbypodcasterganesh 2 года назад
I legitimately don't know where I'd be without this channel. It's introduced me to so many incredible ideas and thinkers. If I ever get a job and move out of my parent's basement I'll donate you my first pay cheque.
@linuxxxunil
@linuxxxunil 7 месяцев назад
If I ever get a job or when I get a job? The tongue, lad. The tongue.
@noochynomads1335
@noochynomads1335 2 года назад
He is channeling the old man archetype. bringing watts and jung into clear view for the lost post modern soul. I love this man and love even more that you interviewed him David!!! so epic. Cheers to this!!!!
@BlueEternities
@BlueEternities 2 года назад
The worst paradox is how few people are interested in such incredibly important information.
@RJ-cs9gz
@RJ-cs9gz 2 месяца назад
Yes, I laughed when I saw he had 5k followers compared with a Kardashian of 300 million!
@JamesLumb
@JamesLumb 2 года назад
On an Iain McGilchrist binge at the moment so this is perfect timing. A philosopher turned neuroscientist is someone definitely worth paying attention (
@PromoMIAR
@PromoMIAR 2 года назад
AND Neuroscientist turned Philospher don't forget ;>
@xmathmanx
@xmathmanx 2 года назад
Primarily a psychiatrist tho
@katejudson8907
@katejudson8907 Год назад
Have you also heard of the wonderful German psychiatric neuroscientist Gerard Hüther? His paper about ten years ago on how the human brain's empathic mechanics are the source of our intelligences was translated into many languages and.published in English as a short book titled The Compassionate Brain, How Empathy Creates Intelligence. Without drawing on philosophical theoretical traditions he does draw a long bow in putting human brains in the context of the rest of the living world, aka life/ nature.
@sebastianm8028
@sebastianm8028 2 года назад
I love the ending and that he didn't say: do this. That is the sign of a man who truly touched the source of wisdom
@fumiemunro1740
@fumiemunro1740 2 года назад
This is great (it’s because I’m born and raised in Japan with Zen flavoured father and Catholic mother). I’m a gardener I learn philosophy from doing gardening. To me, Philosophy is like fertiliser. You can’t plant seeds in fertiliser. It will kill the seed. Fertiliser can’t change what the seed is. And I need bit of pesticides, weeding and watering. I feel bad when I play “god” choosing to pull weeds and let the roses and peonies grow and flourish. I wish I could love weedy garden, but I know I can’t. My dad used to say to my mom. “What a failure God is. Look at his creation how not perfect we are.” My mom understands someone like my dad believes having faults is not really faults. So she always gave a huge gentle smile to him. My dad promised to my mom he would convert to Catholicism after his parents passed away when they got married. He is showing no sign of doing it. I’m sure my dad will do so when he is dying on his bed. That means my mom has to out live my dad😉
@wayward-saint
@wayward-saint 2 года назад
This is extremely similar to the Daoist description of reality. It’s amazing that high level neuroscience and deep meditative insights can converge in so aspects.
@kbeetles
@kbeetles 2 года назад
Recently received these books - Iain is a real giant of an intellect and a deep sea of human soul. This work will keep me busy and wondering throughout the winter months!
@paulwintermute1495
@paulwintermute1495 2 года назад
Okay, so I knew the McGilchrist was brilliant based on his last book but wow... this is on a whole different level. His new work will (and should) change the way we think.
@rebekkahaas5472
@rebekkahaas5472 2 года назад
Thank you and Iain for pouring a sack of diamonds here into this space. Much needed. I hope for this quality thought body to be recognized beyond all limiting believes caused by fear-traps that most humans are stuck in.
@ChrisMichael
@ChrisMichael 2 года назад
Cannot thank you enough for introducing me to Iain and his work through this. He is EXACTLY the articulation of what my mind had been roughly trying to sketch out for the last few years. Looking forward to going back and reading all of his books. Thank you, thank you.
@justinlaporte9414
@justinlaporte9414 2 года назад
I am deeply thankful these kind of conversations are taking place, open sourced and cultivating during a time of the likes we are experiencing. Amazing interview! Great work Rebel Wisdom!
@cheri238
@cheri238 9 месяцев назад
I hold Dr. Iian McGilchrist is close to my heart and his books and lectures and with all who have discussions with him on various subjects. "The world is all around us." We that have this opportunity to grow and to gain more experience of depth of wisdom, one has to be in "awe." With the deepest appreciation and love to all that participates 🌄🌠 sincerely to support these endeavors of consciousness and subconscious of our brains. "I am the world, and the world is me." Krishnamurti with David Bohm, physicist speaking with others and then again, we have Alan Watts. 🙏❤️🌍🕊🎵🎶
@berg0002
@berg0002 2 года назад
Amen. It is so beautiful to listen to Ian the way he expresses everything (and no-thing). It is the way I see it, but could not say it in the excellent way he does.
@sheilaeisele8490
@sheilaeisele8490 2 года назад
David, what a wonderful job you did here, enabling Iain's inspiration for and explication of the important theories that gave rise to this book. I'm so impressed with this interview; thank you!
@fullydavid
@fullydavid 2 года назад
thank you Sheila
@foxdenham
@foxdenham Год назад
Wonderful. Feeling enriched, strangely 'less alone' and most definitely humbled. Thank you to you both.
@user-yp7vf5lo8h
@user-yp7vf5lo8h 7 месяцев назад
Hi Someone once said 'I read to not feel alone'.
@marinobadurina8446
@marinobadurina8446 2 года назад
Iain McGilchrist is a very wise man. It reminds me of some sort of worldly Albus Dumbledore of our time
@ts6564
@ts6564 2 года назад
What an extraordinary thinker. Truly, a brilliant mind. If all of us collectively could apply just 1% of this approach to living, we would be in a much better place. Thank you Iain McGilchrist for writing such an inspirational piece of work.
@iainmorley
@iainmorley 2 года назад
Top drawer stuff. Hope to see Iain more regularly! Buying those books 100%
@leedufour
@leedufour 2 года назад
Thanks Iain and David!
@yossarian67
@yossarian67 2 года назад
Wow, this whole talk was really amazing. His closing lines are truly awesome.
@WhiteStoneName
@WhiteStoneName 2 года назад
Beautiful. God bless, Iain McGilChrist.
@simcha22
@simcha22 Год назад
I’m my pinion This is the most important video and discussion that I have seen ever discussed which such clarity in a public space 🙏
@anthonygarciaguitar
@anthonygarciaguitar 2 года назад
So brilliant. As a musician this interview is music to my ears!
@ericT7
@ericT7 2 года назад
I've read a few good books in my time, and The Matter with Things is the best book I have ever read. 1,001 thanks!
@tonybaker2968
@tonybaker2968 2 года назад
One feels like one is present at a great event, a great unveiling and revelation of historical dimensions, and this is made possible as much by intelligent and relevant and immediate questions from David as from the height, depth, and majestic complexity of Iaian's elaborations. I have books I won't live to read, but I will have this great work and read it early in 2022. Thank you Rebel Wisdom for your vey apt midwifery, and Dr McGilchrist, for your devotions.
@PromoMIAR
@PromoMIAR 2 года назад
Such an important work done by such a great Man.
@richardjohnson9534
@richardjohnson9534 2 года назад
You cannot take to heart what McGilchrist is saying and not come away realizing how much trouble we are in. If what he is saying is right. And I believe he is. Then all our solutions. Including to this pandemic have all been completely wrong.
@reprogrammingmind
@reprogrammingmind 2 года назад
good morning
@daminc
@daminc 10 месяцев назад
This gentleman clearly deserves more limelight on RU-vid ❤
@julie5978
@julie5978 2 года назад
Love McGilcheist! Thanks for having him!
@reinerwilhelms-tricarico344
@reinerwilhelms-tricarico344 2 года назад
Iain McGilchrist on S. Pinker's over-optimism: "The right hemisphere is our bullshit detector; the left hemisphere is ... full of it". (Copied to my collection of famous citations ;-). But seriously, this interview was extraordinary valuable and enlightening. I listened to it twice and may do it again for taking notes.
@nugley
@nugley 2 года назад
Thanks, Iain, for being you, and being here, now.
@nataliekazful
@nataliekazful 2 года назад
A beautiful mind! A master of dichotomies. 👌🏻
@David-Anyroad
@David-Anyroad 2 года назад
the best best best in some time. I will need to listen again a few times. Get the book. But hey... Thanks both if you for such expansive and often surprisingly clear conversation about hard to grasp matters.
@davidmiles-hanschell
@davidmiles-hanschell 2 года назад
Bring on more of the sense of wonder for everyone and an understanding of your brilliant and timely thesis Professor Iain Mc Gilchrist ,which will certainly give me a greater capacity to defend, what I have intuited for most of my life, should I have the good fortune to read and comprehend your two books.
@12th-House
@12th-House 2 года назад
I am a fan of Iain McGilchrist and looking forward to the new books cause the big questions are with me every day. Thanks for this interview, excellent!
@michaeljack6517
@michaeljack6517 2 года назад
Great interview David. Ian seems incredibly generous and kind. One of very few that sheds light on the many facets of complexity that surrounds us.
@ca7582
@ca7582 3 месяца назад
This man might be of extraordinary help in taking me out of my existential crisis. I'll read his work
@F--B
@F--B 2 года назад
René Guénon's 'The Reign of Quantity' is a good precursor to McGilchrist. I'm surprised he wasn't mentioned in the index of 'Master & Emissary' - maybe he'll appear in the new book...
@danielak4264
@danielak4264 2 года назад
What an extraordinarily illuminating interview. Many thanks for this.
@peterhaydock7836
@peterhaydock7836 2 года назад
Thank you. Fabulous.
@RebelWisdom
@RebelWisdom 2 года назад
(Please note: the audio jumps slightly out of sync from 30:45 to 39:09 then returns to normal) Iain will return to our Digital Campfire for a Q&A with Rebel Wisdom members on Tues 30th November, to join, check out membership options here: rebelwisdom.co.uk/campfire-events Some previous conversations with Iain for if you enjoyed this one: Iain with John Vervaeke: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JdB-BMdgFbk.html Certainty & Flow: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fI1ngqwH5us.html
@KaizenTrainingLtd
@KaizenTrainingLtd 2 года назад
Absolutely brilliant conversation - thank you so much! x
@vanessadylyn6916
@vanessadylyn6916 2 года назад
A truly wonderful interview by David in engaging Iain in his new book. The popular documentary The Divided Brain, a collaboration with Iain, is a good backgrounder on his work.
@offcenterconcepthaus
@offcenterconcepthaus 2 года назад
Outstanding.
@AnAlgernon
@AnAlgernon 2 года назад
I very much look forward to reading the new book. I just finished the Master and Emissary. Thank you gentlemen. 🙏
@TheZGALa
@TheZGALa 2 года назад
Thank you both. Much love.
@lucjagrabowska2726
@lucjagrabowska2726 2 года назад
Ian McGilchrist is one of the greatest intellectual thinkers of our times
@anthonylawrence5842
@anthonylawrence5842 2 года назад
I would love to hear a discussion with Bernardo Kastrup
@np-undervisning5644
@np-undervisning5644 2 года назад
Excellent stuff! I really like the all-encompassing perspective. Very interesting thoughts - nice to get an almost metaphysical line of thought instead of the more narrow cultural discussions. Great interview! Thanks!
@TennesseeJed
@TennesseeJed 2 года назад
Wow! Literally amazing how much must be in this book!
@TennesseeJed
@TennesseeJed 2 года назад
Ok, I ordered the damn thing!
@davidgreenwood5602
@davidgreenwood5602 2 года назад
He is inspirational!
@zalacainbilbao
@zalacainbilbao 2 года назад
Thank you for an extraordinary interview. I learnt a lot, and I will buy the book as soon as it comes out in paper back.
@LLlap
@LLlap 2 года назад
The worst atrocities have always been committed in the name of making things better. Not just the last couple hundred years. Always.
@michaelasharne9107
@michaelasharne9107 2 года назад
Absolutely brilliant, thank you.
@everythingflows3639
@everythingflows3639 2 года назад
Looking forward to this!
@Lascts25
@Lascts25 2 года назад
Tolkien was a pro-gestaltist “He who breaks a thing to understand it has left the path of wisdom.”
@brigidpoppke1028
@brigidpoppke1028 2 года назад
Iain's emissary truly serves his master….
@gerri49
@gerri49 2 года назад
Fantastic ❣
@alexswainson3110
@alexswainson3110 6 месяцев назад
Really great interview, very insightful. Many thanks to both of you.
@brandonvandyck
@brandonvandyck 2 года назад
Stunning.
@animula6908
@animula6908 2 месяца назад
Such a good point about people who were outside the monetary system with no wage.
@chris432t6
@chris432t6 2 года назад
Wonderful talk. Looking forward to reading his books. Thank you RW.
@ivonneherrera737
@ivonneherrera737 2 года назад
¡Beautiful enterview! And the deep and complex ideas exposed by Ian MacGilchrist comunicated with clarita and elegance, made this hour and a half, a source of joy for me. ¡Thank You David for such a brilliant enterview! More than compeled to experience (read,reflect, recognize perhaps...) the work of Ian MacGilchrist.
@david2the80s
@david2the80s 2 года назад
One day I might be able to afford this book.
@reprogrammingmind
@reprogrammingmind 2 года назад
library
@sheilac5319
@sheilac5319 2 года назад
This is very helpful. Many thanks!
@hitaloaquino6477
@hitaloaquino6477 2 года назад
What a excelent Interview. Thank you. 🇧🇷🙏🏽 Invite Dr Bernardo Kastrup.
@louisrangel9877
@louisrangel9877 2 года назад
I´m currently reading the first volume, and it is as entertaining as dense. Don´t expect to plow through it quickly. It is worth every penny, it is beyond a simple monetary investment, because no other book would explain the current state of affairs as this one . Thanks a lot Dr. McGilchrist.
@pocketfullofshellz
@pocketfullofshellz 2 года назад
Perfect thank u
@anthonylawrence5842
@anthonylawrence5842 2 года назад
The missing third element is Aesthetics. Science, philosophy and Aesthetics.
@Lascts25
@Lascts25 2 года назад
I agree. I think there is a big connection between aesthetics and Intuition.
@anthonylawrence5842
@anthonylawrence5842 2 года назад
@@Lascts25 agreed - I think it plays a major role in the creation of hypotheses, which Peirce calls Abductive reasoning, which has little to do with evidence but is sparked by creative intelligence which is more akin to the aesthetic impulse than anything else.
@davidmiles-hanschell
@davidmiles-hanschell 2 года назад
A most enlightening interview.
@chriswalth
@chriswalth 2 года назад
1:14:30 “relations are more basic than things“. - Hans-Peter Dürr, physicist and student of Heisenberg, said exactly the same when he talked about the main conclusions in his field of elementary physics.
@stevebaldwin2374
@stevebaldwin2374 2 года назад
Thanks Rebel and Doc. Good interview. I'm getting the book😀
@htkoe3640
@htkoe3640 2 года назад
If it is all a GIFT, then there must be a GIVER! Another G word.
@paleblue7462
@paleblue7462 2 года назад
Excellent!
@adempc
@adempc 2 года назад
Thank you.
@edwardfosterart3848
@edwardfosterart3848 2 года назад
Great interview! I am just about to dive into his new epic tome. Thank you for this content.
@peterhardie4151
@peterhardie4151 2 года назад
This is very good.
@jasonMMorris
@jasonMMorris 2 года назад
Twice I see the unspeakable, always a pleasure even when watching the uncomfortable movement as the mind touches the realm, I suggest something's remain so far best unsaid when words fade away in explanation, like closed books the mind evolves to a collective higher connection. Show was just excellence, always a pleasure to meet.
@_Game_Of_Geopolitocs
@_Game_Of_Geopolitocs Год назад
I think that Theory is little bit Similar to the Sankhya Philosophy Which describe the Universal existence as the mixture of two Components First One is Prakriti Which can be understood as Tangible Qwality ( Materialistic Qwality) Second One is Purush Which can be understood as Non-Tangible Qwality ( Consciousness) The Mixture of these two Components is the reason of Existence of the Universe This is Sankhya Philosophy 👍👍
@anthonylawrence5842
@anthonylawrence5842 2 года назад
Bernard Lonergan in his seminal book Insight, refers to the Inverse Insight - the ability to question the question, as being the highest form of analytical thinking. As an example, Newton's work stood tall for 300 years until Einstein came along and had the audacity to question the received and long established laws of Newton ion Mechanics.
@hidupsehat5205
@hidupsehat5205 2 года назад
This guy is a powerful force
@jerrykindigii
@jerrykindigii 2 года назад
At 31:04, a black flash appears and video becomes out of sync with audio. It appears to be an error in editing. It lasts until 37:35 and the next edit.
@mapstoinsight3252
@mapstoinsight3252 2 года назад
The emphasis on process & relationship in this awe-inspiring work has profound implications for the academic conundrum of knowledge transfer, particularly high-road or far transfer. There a rare, but rewarding interdisciplinary transfer of knowledge demands the curiosity, creativity & imagination of an agile, embodied mind…one “attending” to an embodied (not disembodied) world.
@happydayssunny7830
@happydayssunny7830 2 года назад
Now we're talking 💜🙏
@jollyroger9286
@jollyroger9286 2 года назад
This man is an absolute beast
@sonicjihad7
@sonicjihad7 2 года назад
🔥🔥🔥 Is the audio book coming?
@jacobsaadya
@jacobsaadya Год назад
Lovely
@Stianfred
@Stianfred 2 года назад
Please challange steven greer and the new archetypes of ufology
@howardbabcom
@howardbabcom 2 года назад
The 'profoundly important' which is so hard to address by us, needs to be brought to us. This is, I would suggest, what makes the Judaeo Christian tradition so important, and so different. Revelation is something much deeper than religion, and this history is about the 'profoundly important' becoming evident in our realm. Truth is therefore knowable.
@bennguyen1313
@bennguyen1313 2 года назад
Enjoyed the 1h2m mark on hormesis, hidden assumptions, and how complex issues require nuance thinking, otherwise there are unintended consequences. Would love to hear Steven Pinker's rebuttal to Ian's point.
@iRideuWatch
@iRideuWatch 2 года назад
I wonder what Iain would say in answer to the question of what are the necessary preconditions of intelligibility. What would have to be true about the universe to account for the phenomena we observe? How do you account for the the laws of logic, invariable moral code, uniformity in nature, universal sense of transcendence manifesting in spirituality and religions, the origin of information we see in DNA, the fine tuning of planet Earth that allows life to exist, etc.? Long periods of time and chance are not adequate to explain these things.
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