I'm just voting for Matterport. It's just easier. Sure there are limitations to the system (nadar, editing) but it's much less work than other plattforms, where you need to stitch all Pano-shots by yourself. and so: The price is lower because you need less time to build a tour.
@@pillowg1rl building the tour yourself will take you around 2-3 hours. It is most definitely not worth paying hundreds of dollars every year to save 2-3 hrs per tour.
@@Z-add well. I got it calculated, that I'll give the monthly costs directly to my customers. So I'll don't get dragged down by the monthly fee. So matterport is just still easier for me :D
Hi @Ben Claremont I’ve been using Matterport for about a year now and we started with the basic 360 cams then purchased their Matterport Pro 2 camera. I just wanted to put out there a couple thoughts for you and those who watch this video. 1) Most of the cons (aside from price) that you listed with the Matterport platform (curved walls, etc.) are corrected with the Pro 2. The Pro 2 has LiDAR built in to measure the spaces as you capture it. The basic 360 cams do not have the same features and therefore have the issues you mentioned. 2) while yes, it is recommended that you take shots every 5-8 feet and must maintain line of sight with the previous shot, once you’ve captured the space with the Pro 2 or a 360 cam in the app, you just upload to the Matterport cloud which then does all of the editing for you as part of your subscription. You don’t have to do any of the 3D editing you mentioned. 3) Matterport has a built in suite of editing tools built into the Matterport cloud software. While it doesn’t let you recolor photos or things like that (that is often corrected by using additional lighting while capturing) it does let you do a number of other things like his scan points, take still photos to use elsewhere (like a Facebook promo for your project, etc.) they are also continually developing the editing suite. One of the features to come is a blurring tool that will allow you to blur anything captured in your shots that shouldn’t be visible by just anyone. 4) you can measure things in rooms and generate sketches from the Matterport platform, but for these features to work, you must have the Pro cam. While the Metareal pricing is very attractive, the Matterport software is very robust and does offer a lot of perks for its cost (especially when paired with a Pro cam.) I could say more, but I hope that is all helpful. In full transparency, we have used other 3D/360 platforms and cams in the past and found Matterport to be the best. Thanks for the comparison!
12:00 "Metareal will make the tour for you whereas with Matterport, you have to do it yourself." I'm not sure what you are talking about here. With Matterport, I just take the pictures and upload them. Matterport stitches everything together on their server and just tells me when it is done. But still looks great!! Thanks for sharing this option.
@@vonnearnelgonce6523 - yeah, but the video is pushing the fact they will create them for you. If they create them for you, it is stupid expensive compared to Matterport. If they dont create them for you, then its no different than any other software.
Jon Lucas well I think it comes to how many you are doing per month and whether they are virtual tours for companies that will stay up for a long time taking up a slot vs real estate that turns over. All those things make a difference in what you need out of a platform.
Love Matterport, it WORKS WELL!!! no issues and is spotless to use for a noob! like me. I jumped on Metareal and looked at a couple of their demos, they were very flakey and would often not click the direction I clicked if the camera was naturally moving slowly left or right.. The Doll house feature did not appear on a few of them and when it appeared on 1, outside the dollhouse was the interiors wrapped as a background, I assume thats a bug. So Right off the bat I could not get the same experience at Matterport which as I said was seamless on small and large settings equally. Yes I agree price is better and I like the idea of uploading and having them do the virtual tour for me, pretty cool. I think it is just development time, hopefully in 12 months they are smooth like matterport, and then you have a clear winner.
O... M... G!!! What an INCREDIBLE post Ben!!! I can't tell you how ecstatic I am to see this. I've been scouting endlessly for an alternative to the famous Matterport dollhouse. I can't stand Matterport... between their inflated subscription prices, closed ended editing process, and mediocre 3D tour quality (I shoot DSLR's), the only thing they had really going for them was that freaking dollhouse! They're also notorious for trying to poach clients away from their subscribers. I've been trying to avoid them like the plague, but they're just so ingrained in the real estate market and their 3D scanning (dollhouse) feature is pretty cool and often asked for. I'm signing up and trying this out today and I hope this software gains some traction!
Hi Ben, thanks for pointing out this alternative. Two things I don't get: 1. "Do it for me" - Matterport does everything automatically, doesn't it? What is the advantage here? 2. Haven't you been promoting cupix as the best Matterport alternative? My issue with Matterport is not the pricing. It is the lack of control, being forced to shoot through the Matterport app in automatic mode, no HDR-DNGs, no manual correction of bad connections, etc. Cubix looks the most promising (according to you) if I want higher image quality and better control, while still creating a proper virtual model. Does that still hold up? I am lot looking for a CHEAPER Matterport, I am looking for a BETTER one. Any thoughts?
If the folks at Matterport had any idea of how much more Camera units they could sell if they allowed people to own their tours! Maybe everyone on here would buy one! Hopefully this will change soon! I cancelled my Matterport camera order because of this!
Great Video Ben, I just bought my first 360 cameria. How do you charge businesses if you have to keep their tours online for years? Do you charge them a yearly fee?
It really depends on the client ; I usually recommend most of our customers to charge atleast 20-100$ as hosting fees if they are long term customer like muesuems etc. but with real estate there is high churn.
Great video again Ben. BUT EyeSpy360 also has a Do It For You Option to create a dollhouse and floorplan - and it's cheaper at $1 per photo. It's $20 / month plus $15 month for up to 15 photos to create the tour, floorplan and dollhouse for you. And then you can add text, photo and video hotspots, etc.I haven't used them yet, but am considering it for the 3 properties I need to shoot next week. My hesitation is depending on someone else to get it done quickly and that they only host real estate tours. I'm looking to create tours of outdoor spaces lie local parks. So I'm waffling a bit.
It's cheaper to build EyeSpy360 tours because they aren't really 3D. If you compare this EyeSpy360 tour, for example: www.eyespy360.com/en-us/feature/EyeSpyPLAN.html and one of our tours here: www.metareal.com/gallery/, you'll see EyeSpy360 doesn't have 3D navigation or real 3D models. So it takes a bit more effort to build Metareal tours, because we're actually 3D, thus the higher cost per pano.
Thanks for sharing Ben! The Metareal dollhouse blows MP away, and that alone sells me! Then add the floor plans and the inexpensive "built it for you" options and I'm sold! I still prefer the way 3D tours look vs. the 360 degree static image, but I'm certainly going to give Metareal a try with a real estate shoot today! BTW, you treat yourself well with those accommodations! :p
Hi Ben, i have been following you for a long time. I really want to start making 360° tours for businesses. All I really need is an overview of the ways business owners can integrate the tour into their website. There are many different ways. But which are the easiest to build? Fastest to sell? Best to show potential clients? Making the tour is just the start!
Thank you for this review of Metareal. As a real estate agent, I have only used Matterport for higher-end listings due to the cost. I now have a 360 camera (Insta360 One X)and was hoping to find a way to do these tours myself. I will definitely check out Metareal. Thank you for all the videos you do.
Were you able to get this to work? Metareal won't process my Insta360 One X photos... saying the double fish eye photos need to be converted to a panorama
Seems great. Just wish it was as quick and easy as matterport. Much more work involved. Hitting the upload button in matterport and forgetting about it is still a massive pro.
Vertical Media I believe having them do the tour for you for such small fee, beats the hefty monthly fee from MP... just saying...the quality of the dollhouse is far superior to that one from MP, my totally unbiased opinion after seeing them side by side on the video...
Thank you Ben. We're adding 360 to our real estate business. This is helpful. Your background music is awesome. I know you shared you got it from epidemic sound. Can you share the genre or even more specifically the track you used for this video? If not I understand. Awesome video nonetheless. Thank you.
BEN!!!!!!!! Hi There ! As always, thank you very much for that magnificent video. I tried to use it ... But it's not for professionals. He still has aspects to improve. 1. Is the base set in CMS WORDPRES? 2. Interface design ... Antihumans - Deathdestruction 3. Documentation or tutorials are not exposed well I hope they improve .. You know, we professionals cannot risk even with this.
Hello .. Good night. I don't understand how this program is cheaper, when for a 3 bedroom apartment we will have to take at least 20 photos. 20 photos times 4 $ - 80 $ if Hi Quality 90 $. doing all the manual work doesn’t seem so easy for a user just starting out. Materport ends up doing this $ 90 job just to be fine, free. I don't know if at the end of a year the final job doesn't get cheaper at Materpot
No matter what software you use, in general it's important that you can go for a white labeled tool, not only the logo should be removed, but more important is the URL. You don't want that clients see how much you have to pay for a subscription. Like a goo chef will also not reveal his secret ingredients ;-)
I hate to rain on the Metareal parade but my experience with them was a failure. I sent them a 52-photo tour to develop and they responded a couple of days later stating that they couldn't build it because not all photos had line of sight. I reviewed the photos and found one that had a closed door (the door to the garage). I deleted the tour and re-submitted it after reviewing and even re-shooting a few. After four days and not hearing back, I inquired how much longer and was told they were busy. After a week and no updates from them, I told them to forget it. None of the clients I work with would be willing to wait a week for the deliverables. I was able to get it done with Asteroom a lot quicker and for a lot less money!
@@BenClaremont You should do a similar video on Asteroom - I found their service to be marvellous - 24-hour turnarounds. They can do essentially everything Metareal claims to do but simpler, more automatically, much cheaper AND much faster. In addition, they're also offering virtual staging.
TY for posting this, Ben! Stubbled across your channel a few months ago and you consistently post quality content! Finding it a really helpful resource as I grow my fledgling business.
One Matterport space could be massive. If you did a huge capture one upload is 1 space for Matterport. If you cross reference that cost with Metareal = higher storage need it would be great to see the comparable. Also, the new vibe also comes with risks as they can change costs and features as they monetize & scale. New platforms have to challenge the main players to build a base. At the beginning Matterport were the same. Interesting how this evolves and plays out.
Awesome video. One very BIG request for you. Please more dad jokes like at 7:18. I feel like it is time. You are really good at 'capturing' the right time to insert them.
@@BenClaremont I''m rapidly heading to 40 and looking to integrate some of these Dad traits into my daily life ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7d6NmnUYXIA.html
Metareal looks great. Awesome idea to provide a Build For Me option. However, their popularity exploded and I am still waiting after submitting a build request on August 16/20. This comment submitted October 21/20. Still enthusiastic, but nervous about their backorder situation. They are staffing-up enormously -- (they mention this video, as a turning point to them falling way behind the surge in demand). Your influence is rightly huge.
Another amazing video Ben. I tried Metareal when it first came out, and didn't go any further because as you said, for commercial tours the hotspots just weren't good enough. I am doing more real estate tours now, so I am definitely going to be looking into this again!! Hope you're keeping well. 👍
Cheers Nick, yeah they’ve come a long way! Would definitely suggest giving it another go. Although yeah it’s hard to switch from 3DVista when it’s so good :)
We've done some updates on our labels. Would recommend giving this tour a look so you can see what you can do with them now: tour.metareal.com/apps/player?asset=01623869-8922-45d7-b1d7-adcaf8ce78bf
Hi! First thanks for your video, is really amazing what you have just shown! I can't wait to try Metareal! May I ask you something, please? Is it possible to add pictures and 3D models (link from sketchfab) in the main tour?
I tried Matterport today for the first time, using an Insta360 ONE R camera to capture everything. But the quality is completely ass, is Matterport deliberately dumbing down the quality of my 360 images? I see no option on how to adjust the resolution once the stuff is uploaded. If that is the case, I'm jumping over to Metareal.
I tried this out... I love the concept but I had SO many issues trying to align multiple panoramas (and objects) in an open-concept plan. I'm tempted to pay the fee (not crazy expensive but not cheap either) just to see if they would be able to make it work. There's a lot of potential here... but only if you have the margin to pay them to make the plan for you. Hopefully they'll get better... That said, excellent video and I appreciate you putting the spotlight on them!
Calculate the cost of Metareal servicers into the price to your customer based on the number oif rooms. That way the client pays for this instead of you giving up your profit margin.
Thank you so much for sharing the info with us. Can we build ourselves? Which camera did you use?. Can we use any 360 camera ? By the way, Your work looks great.
I just want to point out that I used this service in November 2020 and it loads extremely poorly on mobile. I didn’t realize this before I built my tour with metareal.
thank you ! Just what I was looking for!!! I was on the fence after using the free version of theasys (before they went paid), but need streetview and now there's Metareal! Great! Great timing Ben!
f1pitpass, what is the benefit of uploading my RE Tours to Google Street View - does that mean my local area Google map will be populated with icon links to my tours? If so that could be good for advertising, but it could also mean I crowd the local map with all my tours - if Google allows that...
Ben, How does Metareal stack up against your previous video on the Best Vitual Tour SW, specifically 3DVista and Kuula? Those were the two I felt best all around... as a Non-User currently. I’d like to see these compared too.
Ben, I like your reviews. I am a Mechanical Engineer who specializes in special machines. The 3D cameras will take a photo of a machine, but can it be turned into a solid model that can be manipulated with Solidworks or Inventor? It would be really cool to take a photo model be able to remove parts and replace with new components, and maybe even show the machine in motion. This can be done in either program, the downside is that you have to create every component which takes a lot of time. Your thoughts? Regards, Gary
Ehi Ben, thanks to share all this infos with us! Why all the “dolly house” I’ve made (with Matterport and others) are Full of “Extra components” That makes so much confusion....they has less “WOW EFFECT” than yours!!
Hi everybody, thank you for this nice compairson. I am missing one Feature on Matterport that looks pretty standart to me but you didn´t even mention it: Expanding the model later on. In the Real Estate Business the scan might be a quick thing: Create it, upload it, sell the house, that´s it. But that´s not what I am using it for. Imagine a Restaurant that does not really change the whole view. But then they change some tables, paint a wall or places some new plants in the garden. Maybe they want to show winter-scans from the outside part in winter but don´t want to scan the complete building only for adding two winter-panoramas. Or imagine they add a new room which was not used before. All of that stuff. On Matterport I have to duplicate the whole tour and then to re-upload it. But ... all the tour-stuff is deleted. Any notes, any other content, all is lost as it is created as a complete new tour. And this really sucks. In the moment I start to create individuel stuff like hotspots or Tags or anything, the whole modell has to stay fixed. And if I really need to add or update a new room, every workd I did on the modell is lost. Seems pretty important to me, don´t you think? ;) All the best, Julian!
Hi Julian, yes absolutely that’s a valid point. In my opinion that is covered under #4 in this video: manual upload/download, which would allow you to do exactly what you’re describing. Shame it’s not easy, maybe they will change that in the future 👍
@@BenClaremont I just realized I wrote this comment on the wrong video. I wanted to post it on the compairson of different Alternatives where you come to the conclusion Matterport is "Matterport", but I accidentially had the other tab open and posted it here.
Ben, As always, great videos. You mentioned that Metareal will charge you if you have them adjust/edit pictures and create the tour. At the time of making this video, what were those charges? I must have missed it if you already mentioned it.
Mr. Ben - well done again! I've been going the opposite direction with 360 lately (been doing immersive nature films) but you've made me want to give this a look. Cheers Mate!
I haven't seen you ever review 3D Vista. With built-in secure live streaming and not having to be online with any service to make a tour, this software package is what I have been using
So expensive to get started with it, it nearly has to be perfect cause youre sort of stuck with it after $800+ CAD. Is it really that much better ? Doesn't seem to have smooth transitions like matterport or metareal from what I see so far but I could be wrong
I have to be honest here, this is not a good deal in comparison to Matterport, the doll houses have limitations that will prevent you from properly creating a complex indoor environment, any ceiling that's not flat and has more then one point of angle cannot be done and if you check out their gallery set, they have mostly chosen places that dont have these kinda things going on. Also, generally, this is a ton of work with a learning curve that requires example, Metareal does have tutorials but they are drawn out, so, prepare for class! And the "do it for me" is CRAZY expensive if you have more then a dozen panos per tour. And it's not apparent at first, but Metareal's stage isn't even a finished product, I believe its still in alpha stage....perhaps in a year or so the devs will have something to show. I think I'll still use a free account for simple stuff.
Correction, you can do multi section angled ceilings, but you have to divide the room into multiple rooms per angled section, creating them in this manner is much akin to sector work in 2.5D rendering engines but much more complicated in execution.
I’ve been using matterport for a while now coming from a building surveying and architectural design background I primarily use it for the floor plans and now the cloud point data that it can produce for use in programs such as Revit. Whilst it’s an additional cost they’re floor plans have always been really good quality. Their prices are a bit off putting but it’s just one of those things I guess where they’re doing the legwork saving me time rather than me going around with a disto but I’ll definitely look at this as a potential alternative even more so if they’re able to produce cloud points.
Oh yay. I upgraded my barely used 360 one x for the way more user friendly one r; it arrives this week. I was sad at how proving tours for clients as a value add or special upgrade was so cumbersome to output, to make viable. It seems, and thank you for the hot tips, Metareal has solved all of my problems. Now I have a true leg up... I should get another intern!!
I have a one R and was wondering if you had any tips/issues with the insv file format in Metareal? Their site says jpeg format and I am curious if you had to do some additional workflow to get them to upload?
This looks really interesting and thanks for making this video. But can you also export it as an (OBJ) Mesh or (XYZ) Point Cloud? even though its quite expensive in Matterport, that's what gives me the most value out of it.
Not sure how Metareal is cheaper when you compare their costs to build a tour vs Matterport automatically doing the same. For example, most decent tours would require at least 10 panoramas so that's around $30 depending on the plan. Take that times 6 tours per month and that's $180 so am I missing something here?
What I see is Metareal is Storage Based which is much better in my opinion. you could do a lot of tours on 5GB vs Matterport will give you 5 tours for the 9$/month tier and then you have to upgrade to 69$/month for 25 Tours, and then 129$/month for 50. So as you upgrade with matterport, the pricing gets exponentially higher per tour. Depending on how much you can squeeze in the storage you have you might be getting more tours per tier on metareal. BUT the build price adds up, so that's a give and take. However, unless you delete tours after a while, the matterport pricing hits a ceiling really quickly
PeekAtChu So my issue is not the costs for storage versus how many tours, etc. What I’m talking about is the cost Metareal charges to actually build the tour and that gets quite expensive if you have a lot of panoramas. I suppose in the end, everything depends on one’s individual needs however I don’t see met a real being a value unless you’re talking about using a small amount of panos. Note that if that’s the case, you’re unlikely to get a decent looking doll house especially if you have multiple floors since the system won’t know how to connect between the two.
@@christophermilson8378 I think we're on the same page. It adds up very quickly. Even for a basic tour, you'd be paying 50$ minimum to have it build. I think it's a different approach. Instead of automation, it's basically subcontracting. My gripe with Matterport is the rigidity of the platform. I can't control the quality of my output. (Matterport app decides how to expose and it also compresses your shots) While Metareal offers more open platform, I could learn to build a 3d Scan and save money while getting better results. BUT it's more work! So yeah it's deceiving... shouldn't be better value, just different offering, for a different crowd
I want to clarify some things after looking more into this and talking with MetaReal. For $0/month, you can create and SHARE virtual tours. If you choose to create them yourself, there is no cost at all. If you pay to have someone make it for you, yes it costs money. But something like this works great for me. I create virtual tours for clients but the issue is I have to pay a monthly fee to even share them and I can only have 5 available at any given time. So when a client wants 3 virtual tours, either I have to host them, or they have to pay for a monthly subscription so I can transfer the tours over to them, which they usually hate that and choose to not have a virtual tour at that point. Where with MetaReal, I can create and share the tour as literally no cost(assuming I make it myself), and I can also host it for them at no cost. Basically w/ MatterPort you have to pay to even share tours you've created with MetaReal you don't.
You are right. I don’t know why this took so long to click with me. Say you shoot 20 images per house, and you shoot 20 houses per month. That’s $1200 to have them create the walkthrough. Matterport, $370 including floor plans. Unless you are doing walkthroughs for existing businesses that stay up for long periods of time vs real estate, that’s a no brainer.
Great video! As a photographer and a filmmaker I've pondered about getting a 360 camera and your videos have got me thinking joining the real estate business (in creating these virtual tours - not selling houses myself). One quick note: You should get a pop-filter for your mic or re-position your mic so that your P's etc doesn't pop that much in the audio track. Hurts my ears a bit to listen to you now and then.
Love the simple education process to learn about this new option for virtual tours. Ricoh is offering for $450+/- a year something simila, how would you compare to Ricoh option.
What is the best 360 camera for Metareal taking resolution and dynamic range / hdr into consideration. If you do a tour with just 10 images does this mean you have only 10 spots to step on to? That's not plenty is it. In my opinion the 360 images in the middle of the room distort the most so you should probably have spots near the walls and doorway as well. How far are we from being able to move in the 3d model which ever spot or corner you wish to go to?
Sir thank you good video first of all Great job!!! i use theta z1 with matterport site plan. But Matterport doesn't have a function to remove the mirror. I want to know how to erase the camera reflected in the mirror.
Ben, as always you have nailed it once more with this video, now, you mentioned that when using metareal it is enough with one 360 shot per room, but , for the purpose of a client walkthrough, for him/her to be able to be able to “walk” more inside the space, would you recommend shooting as many as you want for them to be able to reach more areas within the same space? If that makes sense...