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@Wikitongues
@Wikitongues 2 года назад
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@nefarneshin
@nefarneshin 2 года назад
I'm glad this video has sparked conversation even if it is about my name rather than the language I'm speaking. I think the main thing to keep in mind when watching videos on a channel that is about different languages and different people groups and their cultures is to distance ourselves from our anglocentric, francocentrinc, germanocentri, etc view and to embrace others as they are. I understand if someone has been sensitized to a word because it looks like another word but not all that shines is gold(!!) Negar is not a cognate of the n word. It is not even from the same language family. Even then you have to keep in mind the word "Negro" is still used in most romance languages to refer to the color "black". So please keep your petty jokes at the door and if you're still confused about anything, a simple google search will do you good!
@Mustafa1998
@Mustafa1998 2 года назад
where do you live?
@ygorcoelhos
@ygorcoelhos 2 года назад
Thank you for your video, Negar. Like Persian, but maybe even more, your language sounds very elegant, refined. Really enjoyed how it sounds, the frequent use of fricative consonants and so on. I had long wished to hear how other Iranic languages from Iran, excepting Persian and Kurdish, sound, including Mazanderani. I also agree with your comment very much. Appreciating other cultures and languages also require us to immerse fully in them without the limits, biases and tendencies of our own. I had my own video speaking my particular accent of Brazilian Portuguese uploaded to this great channel some months ago, I think these videos allow us to have a great cultural exchange. Cheers from Fortaleza, Brazil!
@nukebloc
@nukebloc 2 года назад
lol
@persianguy1524
@persianguy1524 2 года назад
@@ygorcoelhos mazandarani is a dialect of Persian, not a different language all together. It stems from Middle Persian Pahlavi.
@Aertemisiae
@Aertemisiae 2 года назад
Khale keshhal baiime youtube intare mese pishnehad heda, omidvareme ke te tan salem bosheo teh del keshal Negar jan ❤️ Greeting from Savadkooh, Iran
@ari7433
@ari7433 2 года назад
As a mazani myself, I find her to be *very* fluent 👌👌👏👏
@Wikitongues
@Wikitongues 2 года назад
Amazing! If you ever want to add your own video or help add captions to this one, relevant links are in the pinned comment above :)
@Changizkhan
@Changizkhan Год назад
I am a native Balochi speaker. Balochi is also northwestern branch of iranian language. I understood a lot of things she said.
@dertyp7916
@dertyp7916 Год назад
I‘m Gilak and we are both related i‘m not fluid but can also understand balochi a bit but my father can understand more
@Changizkhan
@Changizkhan Год назад
@@dertyp7916 that is very interesting. I have not met a Gilak yet. Will look up how similar our languages are.
@dertyp7916
@dertyp7916 Год назад
@@Changizkhan yes but it depends on the Dialect some are sadly very heavily persianized others are like Talysh
@ivandinsmore6217
@ivandinsmore6217 Год назад
This language sounds beautiful. I could listen to this lady all day even if I don't understand a word!
@Simsrockslol
@Simsrockslol 2 года назад
I’m Iranian I speak standard persian. From what I understand she was in the metro wearing headphones and she heard something that sounded familiar around her. and she found it was a women speaking mazandarani. I assume she talked to the women couldn’t fully understand that part but then her last point was that it’s a small world.
@user-jf8xu1id1v
@user-jf8xu1id1v 2 года назад
I'm ethnically mazani but my parents didn't teach me the language. That's why I understand her words perfectly but can't speak it myself😞 She's so fluent.
@RICO_SUAVE_86_
@RICO_SUAVE_86_ 2 года назад
Mazandaranis, Gilaks, Azeris, etcetera they're all ethnically Persian at the end of the day, it's just that in the Caspian region the dialects they speak share certain topological features with languages from the South Caucasus (Georgian, Armenian, etcetera) whereas standard Persian doesn't.
@persianguy1524
@persianguy1524 2 года назад
Mazandaranis are ethnically Persian, a subgroup Of Persians, not a different ethnicity.
@lavieenconfinement3511
@lavieenconfinement3511 2 года назад
@@RICO_SUAVE_86_ mazandarani isn't persian. Mazandarani is northwestern iranic like kurdish language. Persian is southwestern iranic language. Regarding scolars, Mazdandarani and Kurdish, Gilak, Azeri come from Mèdes. But persians from persian.
@RICO_SUAVE_86_
@RICO_SUAVE_86_ 2 года назад
@@lavieenconfinement3511 this is true. There is a link between all the aforementioned groups to the medes. In fact, according to genetic studies, Azeris and Kurds share the most in common genetically, and are believed to descend from a common gene pool, probably the Medes.
@RICO_SUAVE_86_
@RICO_SUAVE_86_ 2 года назад
@@lavieenconfinement3511 "Iranic Peoples" and "Persians" are not the same thing. Persians are a sub-group of Iranic Peoples, as are Tajiks, Ossetians, Pashtuns, Etc. Medes were an Iranic Group that migrated a little earlier than the Persians to the Iranian Plateau thousands of years ago. But at the end of the day, we are all Iranic Peoples
@qselector
@qselector 2 года назад
Respect from a Kurd, long live Iranian languages 🇮🇷❤
@giornogiovanna3139
@giornogiovanna3139 2 года назад
@Prwsha Ismail best language is suggondese.
@Chechen_ingushoyob
@Chechen_ingushoyob 9 месяцев назад
They say Mazandadani is close to the languages of the North Caucasus. I am from the CHECHEN 🇨🇻 Republic
@ungodlykaveh
@ungodlykaveh 2 года назад
I had no idea this language existed! So cool!
@persianguy1524
@persianguy1524 2 года назад
It’s a dialect of Persian more than a language all together.
@MrD3vitamin
@MrD3vitamin Год назад
@@persianguy1524 It’s not a dialect it’s a language.
@bowiethedog6285
@bowiethedog6285 Год назад
​@@persianguy1524 You know we can hear the language for ourselves and can tell that it's not Persian? Who are you trying to convince with your obsessive comments? And even though what she speaks is under huge Persian influence, you still can't understand it. If you heard Mazandarani from 100+ years ago you would understand 0%. It's not from Middle Persian either, it has northwest Iranic features which Middle Persian lacks. Any linguist will tell you that.
@Kurdedunaysiri
@Kurdedunaysiri Год назад
I speak Kurmanji Kurdish. I did understand nothing except for metro
@dfgkl4444
@dfgkl4444 Год назад
Salam khili khobe ❤ vagti mazani ghap mazani talashon kon kamel takrar bekoni❤❤
@david_oliveira71
@david_oliveira71 2 года назад
Sounds interesting (being inexperienced) It sounds to me similar to Dari/Persian
@persianguy1524
@persianguy1524 2 года назад
Cause it’s a dialect of middle Persian.
@Aertemisiae
@Aertemisiae 2 года назад
@@persianguy1524 well if you'd know linguistic you wouldn't say that, its not just a dialect. Dilami, Gilaki, Mazandarani, Shahmirzadi and Talysh are daughters of the Caspian Iranian language, which came from North Iranian language, which came from western Iranian language which came from Middle Persian language and so on... . and the mother is indo-european language.
@teknul89
@teknul89 Год назад
@@Aertemisiae ​they are from Northwestern Iranian Language group we don’t have northern Iranian language group And the rest I agree with you and also that Mazdarani or as they call it Tabari is language and not a dialect to Farsi
@dertyp7916
@dertyp7916 Год назад
@@persianguy1524 it’s northwest- iranic I thought
@persianguy1524
@persianguy1524 Год назад
@@dertyp7916 that doesnt mean anything
@aryana7253
@aryana7253 Год назад
I can understand almost all she said. I am Persian speaker.
@stoic_rhino580
@stoic_rhino580 2 года назад
It would be great if you could add captions in English.
@unknown_mccclxxxv
@unknown_mccclxxxv 10 месяцев назад
I'm Persian speaker. I can understand 100% my mother is a alikaie mazani speaker from Semnan Province but i cannot speak mazani 💔
@mravalik
@mravalik Год назад
I had heard that Mazandarani is almost a completely different language when it comes to Persian, and it holds a more conservative way of speaking as opposed to todays Farsi (without outside - Arabic - influence) and my goodness it is so beautiful 🥹
@samb1027
@samb1027 Год назад
Typically most iranic languages have less arabic influence compared to farsi spoken in Iran.
@persianguy1524
@persianguy1524 Год назад
We speak basically middle Persian
@eto_chelovek
@eto_chelovek Год назад
@@samb1027 False, I heard a lot of Arabic words
@dertyp7916
@dertyp7916 Год назад
@@persianguy1524stfu we don’t speak middle persian lurs do we have our own vocubulary and speak and own grammar stop spreading lies you persians don’t even speak the Original persian
@dertyp7916
@dertyp7916 Год назад
@@eto_chelovekthat comes from the influence of persian they brought the arabic words into our Languages but I have no Problem with arabic words I rather have them than persian words
@Kurdedunaysiri
@Kurdedunaysiri Год назад
Where is Gilaki
@SpaltonTAG
@SpaltonTAG Год назад
I can kind of understand her as a Dari Speaker
@persianguy1524
@persianguy1524 Год назад
Wtf is dari? Its Persian
@SpaltonTAG
@SpaltonTAG Год назад
@@persianguy1524 Afghanistan's dialect of Persian.
@dertyp7916
@dertyp7916 Год назад
Because its highly influenced by persian not because its close
@FrancisMichaelCedenoReyes
@FrancisMichaelCedenoReyes 2 месяца назад
I want to learn mazanderani language.
@JM-gu3tx
@JM-gu3tx 6 дней назад
Sounds similiar to Farsi to me.
@MultiSciGeek
@MultiSciGeek 11 месяцев назад
It does sound very similar to Farsi... The "related to India" part threw me off ngl...
@premsingh-ps3xz
@premsingh-ps3xz Год назад
Where are subtitles
@Bahrta_sai
@Bahrta_sai Год назад
It kinda sounds to me like a mix of Arabic & Italian. Is Farsi similar? I heard somebody speaking Farsi years ago & it made me think of it a little.
@aryana7253
@aryana7253 Год назад
I bet if you speak as quick as its original speed, nobody could understand anything! 😅
@amirzorba9656
@amirzorba9656 Месяц назад
Zazaca çok yakın
@dertyp7916
@dertyp7916 13 дней назад
Zazahan mulekute isan😁
@niazbahram4755
@niazbahram4755 Год назад
I did some research the mazani dna is similar with balochi dna. I guess we all are baloch
@dertyp7916
@dertyp7916 13 дней назад
My kir is baloch
@kingmeraj3819
@kingmeraj3819 10 месяцев назад
These are all dialects of the Gilaki language. I understood about 98% of these conversations.
@LILAMOHDM
@LILAMOHDM 4 месяца назад
سلام نه عزیز زبان مازنی یا زبان گیلکی همان زبان خانواده کاسپین هستند یعنی زبان تبری بله شما اشتباه گوفتی
@ismailtoprakci9593
@ismailtoprakci9593 Год назад
It's sound like, persian.
@niazbahram4755
@niazbahram4755 Год назад
It is similar to Balochi
@dertyp7916
@dertyp7916 13 дней назад
No
@mutlu9881
@mutlu9881 24 дня назад
My mother tongue is Zazaki and I can understand Persian and Kurdish well. You speak Persian before the Arabic invasion. It is a shame on persians.
@dertyp7916
@dertyp7916 13 дней назад
No stfu maybe your ahh got clapped by persians and same with ya mom but don’t spread lies
@sher7174
@sher7174 2 года назад
Wow I speak Dimli-Zaza Kurdish but this quite different. It sounds more like Kalhuri or Laki Kurdish
@persianguy1524
@persianguy1524 Год назад
Zazzas are not kurds
@sher7174
@sher7174 Год назад
@@persianguy1524 move you Persian 🍆head I know what I am. It's pronounced Zaza or Dimli or Kirmanc not Zazzas
@aryana7253
@aryana7253 Год назад
Bro it's almost Persian! All Persian speaker could understand at least 70% of it. I myself just didn't understand 1 sentence. Although the grammar is a bit different, but it is clear for us. The only problem we encounter speaking with Mazanis is the speed of their speaking. This girl is speaking tooooo slowly in compare with real speed.
@dertyp7916
@dertyp7916 13 дней назад
@@aryana7253we are assimilated into the persian language you won’t understand anything when a pure speaker spoke
@aryana7253
@aryana7253 13 дней назад
@@dertyp7916 ok ok :))))
@b.k8051
@b.k8051 10 месяцев назад
It's like Persianish lol
@dertyp7916
@dertyp7916 13 дней назад
Assimilated into persian maybe
@vartiandzohrabgaming7063
@vartiandzohrabgaming7063 Год назад
Mazn dekrani
@rs0wner301
@rs0wner301 2 года назад
gutt snack
@vartiandzohrabgaming7063
@vartiandzohrabgaming7063 Год назад
Mazn dikrani bakraduni
@vartiandzohrabgaming7063
@vartiandzohrabgaming7063 Год назад
Zn dikrani bagraduni sion of armenian kings dikran the great
@vartiandzohrabgaming7063
@vartiandzohrabgaming7063 Год назад
The have many kosen in syria and Iraq and turkey and armenian .the come from armenian bagradunian dinesty .
@Kevin-jc1fx
@Kevin-jc1fx 2 года назад
Sounds like something close to Hebrew and Arabic with an Indian touch to it. Which part of the world is it from?
@phscience797
@phscience797 2 года назад
It‘s an iranian language, that is, it‘s spoken in Iran and is related to Gilaki and Persian. So in some sense, both your intuitions are „correct“.
@bongoseropersa5240
@bongoseropersa5240 2 года назад
Yeah and english sounds like turkish with a klingon touch to it
@Kevin-jc1fx
@Kevin-jc1fx 2 года назад
@@phscience797 Thanks for your reply. I only speak English, French and Spanish for now and I want to learn some middle Eastern languages too. I think I will start with Hebrew. I like Arabic a lot too, probably will learn it later. Languages are usually barriers but when you learn them, they become bridges that makes you Closer to lots of people.
@jared_bowden
@jared_bowden 2 года назад
@@Kevin-jc1fx If you're into learning languages, I can be useful to learn a bit about historical linguistics; while it doesn't directly help you learn a new language, if you're learning a lot of languages it can help the transitions from one to another, and give a good baseline of what exactly you're learning. For example, in the middle East you have two major language families, Semitic and Iranian, and the languages of each group will be very diverse but will still have much in common due to shared ancestry.
@Kevin-jc1fx
@Kevin-jc1fx 2 года назад
@@jared_bowden Indeed, I am very interested in that. It's definitely something I will try to look up more. One day I watched a 4 minutes video and I thought the person was speaking Spanish but by the end I realized it was Portuguese but I understood him with no difficulty having not learned Portuguese yet. It .add me realize that the common history some languages share make them very similar in many ways.
@johnharing3971
@johnharing3971 2 года назад
To me this sounds like a much less harsh version of Persian
@persianguy1524
@persianguy1524 2 года назад
It is Persian. A dialect related to Middle Persian.
@johnharing3971
@johnharing3971 2 года назад
@@persianguy1524 that explains it
@nimakay620
@nimakay620 2 года назад
@@johnharing3971 Yeah, I'd say it's kind of in the middle ground between "dialect" and "different language". As a Persian speaker, I can mostly understand this, but it's a bit tough, and not everything gets through to me. Now I was raised in the United States, but neither of my parents can understand Mazandarani or Gilaki perfectly either, and they're Persian speakers who were raised to adulthood in Iran, where these languages are native. I would compare it to the difference between Portuguese & Galician, or between standard Beijing Mandarin and other "dialects" to the east and south. Definitely not as similar as British vs. American English tho. Lol, sorry for the novel, I thought you might find the depth interesting.
@johnharing3971
@johnharing3971 2 года назад
@@nimakay620 Thanks. The Spanish and Galician comparison makes perfect sense. As a second language Spanish speaker, Galician makes sense but has about 20% words that are exclusively used in Portuguese that are not understood.
@hanifleylabi8071
@hanifleylabi8071 Год назад
@@persianguy1524 it's not Persian
@TSGC16
@TSGC16 2 года назад
She looks like a Crusader Kings 3 character
@bishopc8465
@bishopc8465 2 года назад
Nerd
@TSGC16
@TSGC16 2 года назад
@@bishopc8465 no bitches?
@phoenixknight8837
@phoenixknight8837 2 года назад
@@bishopc8465 Bezos, Gates, Musk. All nerds. Enough said.
@nimakay620
@nimakay620 2 года назад
@@phoenixknight8837 Sounds like some nerd got offended
@Bundpataka
@Bundpataka Год назад
Neckbeard ahh comment
@vartiandzohrabgaming7063
@vartiandzohrabgaming7063 Год назад
Not mazandrani the really name are mazn dikrani .They are the sons of the grat armenian kings dikranis before kristion 555 bc .
@dertyp7916
@dertyp7916 13 дней назад
Mazanis also tabaris are descendants of the tapyri people Mazanderan was a later name
@ryan.h3067
@ryan.h3067 2 года назад
مازندرانی زبان نیست لهجه ای از فارسی است
@ryan.h3067
@ryan.h3067 2 года назад
@Prwsha Ismail نادان اون مادر جندته کسکش ،از کی تاحالا لهجه مضخرف مازندران زبون شده؟
@basimbasim9147
@basimbasim9147 2 года назад
اشتباه. مازندرانی زبان خودش است با اینکه خیلی شبیه است
@persianguy1524
@persianguy1524 2 года назад
Yea, it’s a dialect of Persian.
@bineramin841
@bineramin841 2 года назад
and Persian is an Arabic dialect hhhhh
@ryan.h3067
@ryan.h3067 2 года назад
@@bineramin841 fars değilim qurumsaq
@ericlothyr5641
@ericlothyr5641 2 года назад
Interesting name she has there lol 😑🤣
@solanwheeler7377
@solanwheeler7377 2 года назад
In Persian her name translates to "painted." People shouldn't be so paranoid every time a language has a word vaguely resembling an English racial slur. Edit: I may be wrong on the translation, so could someone confirm? Again, it has nothing to do with racial slurs.
@ygorcoelhos
@ygorcoelhos 2 года назад
@@solanwheeler7377 narrow-minded Anglocentrics and their usual annoying obsession with thinking the whole world abroad functions according to their own very specific cultural, historical and linguistic background {rolls eyes}.
@dipthongthathongthongthong9691
@dipthongthathongthongthong9691 2 года назад
@@ygorcoelhos Seriously. Says much about the conscious/subconscious mind of Anglophone speakers of a particular part of the world. Imagine just SEEING that name (because it wasn't pronounced in the video) and reflexively associating with a racial slur your people called other people. And joking about it. That level of inculcation is quite sad.
@ygorcoelhos
@ygorcoelhos 2 года назад
@@dipthongthathongthongthong9691 indeed! For what it's worth, that name is also written exactly like the Portuguese verb "negar" meaning "to deny, negate, decline"... but for some reason it didn't even cross my mind that that name was like a certain word in Portuguese (probably pronounced differently, though). I think we are just a bit more used to not automatically "read" the rest of the world with the lenses of our own particular cultural experience. I have noticed a similar problem in the accusations of "blackface" against foreign customs and practices that have no racial, let alone disparaging meaning at all, and the utter incapability to understand that people elsewhere can identify and think about race in a completely different (much less binary/dichotomic) way, not seeing everyone literally in simplified black-and-white tones.
@MaziarPersian
@MaziarPersian 2 года назад
It is a very beautiful Persian name meaning: "sweetheart, idol or beloved.", it also means "pattern and painting". The Phonology, melody and rhythm of the Persian Language is rather different from English/American-english, which cause that a world written identical would sound quite different in these languages. The stress in Persian language is usually on the final syllable. In the case of of this beautiful word, the sound pattern would be "Neh - Gar" with the the stress solely on the "Gar". Hence hearing this name, one could in no way find any audio associations with the English word written in the same maner.
@MrAllmightyCornholioz
@MrAllmightyCornholioz 2 года назад
The only phrase I know is ALLAH AKBAR
@giornogiovanna3139
@giornogiovanna3139 2 года назад
That's chinese.
@nimasedighi7776
@nimasedighi7776 Год назад
“Look at me I’m being an idiot. It’s funny right? LMAO”
@kkiooskk
@kkiooskk Год назад
"Allaho Akbar" is an arabic phrase it has nothing to do with persian and a native persian speak would never say "allaho akbar" the phrase "allaho akbar" means "god is the greatest" a persian would instead say "Khoda Bozorge" meaning "God is Great/Big"
@billjourney999
@billjourney999 Год назад
Report spam
@dart23p72
@dart23p72 7 месяцев назад
our little comedian
@queensabina9983
@queensabina9983 7 месяцев назад
How much does Farsi and Mazanderani deefer from each other?
@thenoobprincev2529
@thenoobprincev2529 6 месяцев назад
Dependent on the context and speaker, varying widely between 30%-70%.
@dertyp7916
@dertyp7916 13 дней назад
@@thenoobprincev2529we got assimilated but so a pure speaker got nothing in common with a persian
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