The MAZDA RX-8 is the WORST ROTARY YOU CAN BUY, but don't let that stop you 

what ur rx8 safe word

With the practice of adding 20-50W conventional oil every 1k miles and premixing 2 stroke when you fill up, it’s easy to make them last over 150k, used to work for a mechanic he owned a 2004 RX8 has 223,000 miles on the orginal engine and started with no issues, I currently bought mine nearly a year ago and I’ve been doing just that and regular maintenance, put 1600 miles since I bought it in may an absolutely no issues.

@@vukos *whispers* Apex seals… 😏

@@thatcornfedrx8guy372 Yeah definitely, most of the time people don’t know how to care for them which is why most die prematurely.

ive been bdsming with my rx8 for about a year now. almost done.

The car actually does better if you beat them a bit. But, you must keep up on maintenance.

Rx8 is garbage as a sports car and worse as a daily. Where are they "good"?

No you're thinking of Subaru's 😂

U mean you can't treat it like every other cars?

@@AlphaFlightredlining is actually good for rotaries, but they’re also more tedious when it comes to maintenance - especially later ones. It’s a trade-off.

none of them will be running by then

@@miatalife94 mine will😊

@@notdoow7851stop it lol

They're your Apex seals?

doubt it, it’s not particularly attractive and FB and FC rx7 s still don’t fetch premium prices that FD’s do

I also have a RX8 at 72700 miles, how tf did you get it to run 250k miles? Looking for actual advice

⁠@@Dacraft_190k on two of my oem engines. Remove oil metering pump.(doesn’t burn oil from pan). Allow the car to properly warm up (let it idle till it drops below 1000 and drive till the coolant needle stops moving *operation temp. Redline a week. And try to operate the car around 3k for cruising. The engine needs to spin so the oil can properly circulate. And maintenance

@@Dacraft_note once you remove oil metering pump you would need to run 2stroke oil. And then run 10-30 synthetic. Synthetic and premix are not recommended unless oil metering pump is removed. Premix and oil metering pump it’s over saturating everything which could lead to premature wear on fuel pump, and faster carbon build up so… if you have a pump drive how it is no premix if oil metering pump is removed run synthetic for engine oil and premix your fuel

Hummmmmm RX8 and a DB9 Both cars from need for speed carbon

People don't understand how fun usable power is

I'm super impressed that the seals lasted so long, I thought it was basically guaranteed they failed at 80k miles. Seems like he drove it carefully and took good care of it.

@@CockatooDudeusually it’s the other way around: rotary engines do not like being babied. The maintenance requires fuel mixture and more oil/lubricación than normal. It makes sense since this isn’t a piston design.

😬 to each their own opinion..

Lol

... cooling system upgrades stonks Also premixing XD

The 13b-MSP has better housing than 13b-REW, but REW has better rotor and apex seal than MSP. Many rotary mechanics use this recipe to create more reliable rotary engine

Should have stuck with the MSP. More reliable without that turbo bs and vacuum hose spaghetti

They're not quite that bad. But you can make them reliable. Just budget for two extra RX-8's so you can upgrade the oil and cooling systems. Once you get those two sorted, just regular maintenance and a yearly engine refresh.

It only offs itself of the owner neglect's it. So thats why they suggest buying a good shell to throw a remanufactured(rebuilt) engine into it. Then take care of it.

Buy a good one and trust it right and you’ll be fine. They drive absolutely sublimely when rung out too 👌

That car is like a borderline big titty goth gf . if you hate yourself take it.

Fanboys will pretend statistics and trends don’t exist or matter and say “bUt iTs noT tHaT bAd”, I swear I would see the same shit in a Range Rover video, probably the worst track record ever.

Quite a rainbow flag im glad they all have a non hetero little club

You can always get one of the earlier (non -FD) rx7s, great little cars!

Imagine for a moment they had introduced a turbocharged variant labeled along mazdaspeed line

Mine was 2005 bought year old. Had so many problems and mutiple lights always lit up on the dash 😂. Good thing it had a 4 year warranty as about a month left on it, it died and needed a new engine😂. After that had little issues except the check engine light came on and off the last couple years, easy fix put duck tap over the light😂. Was a fun car to drive when it wasnt in the shop😬.

And the next owner didn't take care of it and it blew up on him or the 3rd owner and car gets a bad rap.

Or just kswap them, I know its the basic go to swap but there's no better candidate then the rx-8 as it has a great chassis.

hard to daily something like that when you need to pass emissions to register the car which makes it too much of a "toy" for most people

@@jaredthrockmorton2025 This why it's best to live in a state with no emissions or inspections.

These were originally suppose to be a 3 rotor but they scrapped it im pretty sure.

Problem with swapping in a REW engine instead of the Renesis is that these days most 13b REW's are not much more reliable than the Renesis because of the age. You'll end up rebuilding it and doing the same mods and the same upgrades to it that you'd do to the Renesis to make it reliable. And you'll still be premixing...

It's around like 100-120k they start having issues from what I've mainly heard

And most of the ones i see for sale around that mileage have a blown engine or have had a rebuild recently

lil cargo got locked up, soon as hes out we'll get him on spotify

@@vukos thanks vukos I thought about just ripping the song out the intro but I'd love to have the full version. Pls don't forget. Free lil cargo

I concour; i still “OWN THE GAME”……

frfr? ong?

My e46 is very reliable. Just like my rx8.

This... keep spreading the truth. True owners know. Internet destroyed the reputation of these cars.

@@ve2430I don’t know why you’d complain bro, it will hold off the skyrocketing value you see on other sports cars of the same era. I wish my favourite cars and engines were downplayed in the same way these are.

Maybe because I own it and would like it to be worth 5 times what I payed for it? ​@@samihookings8241

No 🧢 on god

They are good cars, I am the person who wanted to trade theirs for the NC Miata lmao

Rx8 and NC miata share the same chassis

That shout out hit me with some major nostalgia.

So like, every other readily available tuner car of the 90s and early 2000s… wow you’re getting real controversial…

@@bitchesihatethey are significantly better than most cars of the era. I believe top gear said they were on par with the m3, and are a fraction of the price of just about anything sporty that came from Japan in the 2000s

3,368 2008 RX-8s were sold in the US. So, the anniversary edition is almost 1/3rd of the ones sold. That's not that rare, or special.

@@Psyrecx The 40th Anniversary Edition had different, and exclusive equipment from other 2008 RX8, dont you know that. there were 37,000+ RX8 sold in the USA from 2004-2011, but only 1000 2008 40th Anniversary Edition RX8 sold. With 1357 Shinka RX8 sold over two years, the 40th Anniversary Edition were the most rare RX8 model of all, just a fact. As far as classic car insurance companies and classic car auctions are concerned, ONLY the 40th Anniversary Edition RX8 are considered rare enough to get over $42K and more at auction and get insured for $50k. That are the facts not your fake news, do the research and see the reality, whether or not you believe it. Mine is insured as a classic car for $50K with no depreciation , just a fact. Another 40th Anniversary edition sold for over $42K at a classic car auction. No other RX8 models are getting that value. rarity counts, whether or not you believe it or not. Do better research. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_RX-8

@@6gwilliams You're just making s**t up, because you have, had, or fangirl about one. They're not that special, plain and simple. Mazda made all sorts of special editions, the world over. The anniversary is just a basic b***h version. Hell, they're not even that desirable. The R3s are more wanted. FFS, mine is severely more rare, and isn't anything to brag about.

What number motor swap u on lul

>look great This is false

Don't worry too much about the aftermarket, they are great cars

​@@TheRealCatoftons of aftermarket for the 2nd gen. Seen a lot of modded ones especially the 2.0T

If nothing else they are insanely easy to work on. I pulled the front clip, engine, and trans out of a donor car in 60 minutes flat (2nd time ever doing it)

@@codybigbee2957 How are those engines tho? Are they reliable? Sux that theres no real aftermarket for them, cuz they deserve so much more attention.

@@kingnorlenmy 2012 runs great no issues other than normal maintenance.

where the dawgz at

fugggggggggg

Not that different.

@@RyuusanFT86 Different enough to not need several engine replacements within the first 50k miles, on average.

@@Psyrecx The S1 doesn't need that either

@@RyuusanFT86 Yeah... not according to the average owner. That's why the sales were in continuous decline after the 2004s, and it's also what gave the RX-8s and the renesis engine in general a bad name. And, it's why Mazda made quite a few changes in the S2, not that S1 owners would know.

@@Psyrecx The average owner as in me and every person on reputable forums as well as tuning shops globally? M'kay kid, got any more reddit hear-say bs for me?

W A N D E R E R

Nah, just budget for three of the car you're buying. One to buy, two to upgrade oil and cooling system.

I had to replay it multiple times and turn on CC. He said black EYES lmaooo

There are also parts to use the stock oil injector with a reservoir, and to adjust the ratio. That way you can use marine DFI oil which is available in enormous quantities and is ashless so won't wear the apex seals, and is designed to lubricate in engines that run 100:1 or greater ratios. Then you don't have to worry about full serve gas stations, and all you have to do is refill a reservoir. And you use less oil, and it's precisely metered. That would be my choice of how to do it.

@@theodorgiosan2570 Exactly. I have multiple old 2-strokes with oil injection as well as premix. I'm not afraid of either, but reservoir injection would be very convenient. Mazda should have set them up that way from the factory, just like the motorcycle companies did. They knew motor oil burns incredibly dirty. A clean TCW3 marine injector oil is the correct choice.

@@JETZcorp If one wants to use the stock setup, the only way to make it work is to use an aircraft oil, preferably one intended for radial engines like Aeroshell 120, but alternatively Aeroshell 15w50 or Phillips XC 20w50. They are ashless oils like a 2 stroke oil and burn cleanly, as most aircraft engines burn quite a bit of oil. I have seen a 12A at the airport that has run on Aeroshell since new. 330,000 miles on it 5 years ago and I still see it around. Original owner, aircraft mechanic. Buys oil right there at the airport and uses an aircraft oil filter as well.

@@theodorgiosan2570 That's good information. I knew airplanes burned oil but didn't figure the oil was anything special aside from the typical aviation "everything costs 10x what it should" tax.

@@JETZcorp Yes the oil is all ashless and it is also dispersant only, not detergent. Some like the Aeroshell 15w50 which I find also works well in vintage Subaru engines, have an ashless EP additive as well, tricresyl phosphate or now triphenyl phosphate. Which is a better EP additive than ZDDP and does not leave deposits when burned. These oils have zero metallic content whatsoever, which is also important on airplanes with regards to accurate oil analysis. They are also not particularly expensive. There are plenty of car oils that cost more than most airplane oils. Jet oils are a different story, those are ridiculously priced. Another good trick is that aviation phosphate ester hydraulic fluid works as brake fluid in a car. And is cheaper and better than most racing brake fluids. Compatible with the same seal materials. Also is purple and turns yellow if contaminated with water. Has an insanely high boiling point, like high enough to make 4 wheel drum brakes not fade at all down a steep grade. Comes in 1 gallon jugs pretty cheap. Dot 5.1 and most of the racing brake fluids are borate ester based, this stuff is related, phosphate ester based. Exxon Hyjet V is one example. Works in ABS systems as well. There are also excellent greases from the aviation world like Mobilgrease 28, which long ago used to be rebranded in a GM tube, used as the factory grease on some Oldsmobiles and Cadillacs. An excellent grease with a wear scar of only 0.6 mm. Aviation oil filters are also excellent for applications that take a Ford PH8A or other 3/4-16 thread filter. Like the heaviest duty racing filter you have ever seen. Plus a screen over the bypass valve and a pre lubricated gasket. Lots of little tricks you can learn from the aviation world.