the miraculous ladybug special was... interesting 

Astruc won't let Chloe catch a break in any universe

Chloé was DRAGGED so hard in this special I swear. Also, I'd assume "The Supreme" is a part of the order of the guardians, since alternate Tikki and Plagg have those symbols over their mouths, which look like the symbol of the guardians. Anyways, loved the special! The redemption of Shadybug and Claw Noir was predictable, but it was great regardless.

Honestly I’m so thankful for Amanda just because it reminds me when I need to catch up on Miraculous lore and feed my inner child 😂

ClawNoir's hair looks like a Christmas tree.

In the French version, Gabriel's superhero identity is "Hesperia". In the English version, it is instead "Betterfly". Gabriel's French superhero identity, Hesperia, means "evening" or "evening star" in Greek. Hesperia is also a brand skipper of the butterfly family

ngl the intro with gabe had me hooked, for all of the shows faults it’s still my No.1 guilty pleasure XD

oh gods it’s a real special and wasn’t a dream

Honestly this is the best special in miraclous by far. Shady bug and claw noir were decently good antagonist. I just wish this didn’t have to be sandwiched in between the premiere of season 5 since I feel it takes away from the characters we already have.

As someone who has since stopped watching cuz I lost interest and all info I get is from you every so often, I'm convinced that the writers are constantly high whenever they're working on this show.

The special was probably one of the best episodes ever that they made.. Adrien actually had a personality once in his life and we got to see him talk about his mother, Mari was actually likeable and they both gave actually good advice to their alt selves, I really liked how ladymoth had little wings in her hair instead of the normal ribbons ( her costumes colors were also very pretty imo )... Overall I really liked it, I wish that the level of writing they showed in this special was shown everywhere else in the miraculous series... But I do wish it was longer - maybe even just turn it into a movie or smth instead of a 40 something minute special ( I also love how they included shots of other universes, seeing other possibilities and seeing that in one of them alya was ladybug was AWESOME! )

BUT DID U SEE LADYBUG UNIFY THE BUTTERFLY MIRACULOUS!?!?!?!? LIKE SHES CALLED LADYFLY??? the costume is pretty. The name... idk

My gut feeling is "The Supreme" is either evil Master Fu or evil Grandmaster Su Han ... and they may well be the one who popped up behind Lila at the end of season 5 ... though if it's an eviler Lila that means there could be two of them in season 6, which is just terrifying

They should do a spinoff show with the au characters and dive into that lore more 🤭

Gabriel in that universe was such an angel sent from heaven.

Marinette's diary was a Yt mini series, the scenes showed on the special were parts of the minisodes. It was released around season 2's time

I was so pleasantly surprised by this special, I actually teared up. It was refreshing. I loved the designs, the equal screen time of Mari/LB and Adrien/CN, getting an insight into Adrien's thoughts FINALLY, I love BetterFly and Nooro as a whole, just EVERYTHING. It felt like how the show felt in the early days tbh. My only complaints were 1) the continuation of the "Chloe is evil incarnate" propaganda. It's so tiring at this point. 2) Plagg's constant cheese references. He is funny, witty and clever, but recently it feels like the writers have been lazy with his lines. He is more than cheese and he's made funny remarks without mentioning cheese. 3) ShadyBug's hair style going from buns to pigtails. Like, who's decision was that???

“Betterfly? More like betterdie. *oh wait”* 💀

i literally just finished watching a minute ago this was such great timing

i'm not gonna lie, maybe it's because the series has let me down so many times, but this movie actually was very enjoyable compared to the rest of recent miraculous (especially the recent finale) 😭

White Gabe is an icon when he is doing his job right as a dad and not abuse his goddamn child ❤

Unpopular opinion: I really like the name "Betterfly" it explains everything we need to know about him, that he is BETTER than Hawkmoth, Shadowmoth, Monarch and every Gabriel form in this universe

This is the type of thing they can make a sequel out of. Have (formerly) Shadybug and Claw Noir come back to ask for their help to overthrow the supreme

I think this special is MUCH MUCH BETTER than the season 5 finale and the best special so far honestly

Still can’t believe we got a special like this😭

This is going to be a LONG rant, BUT I think all the talk done by the characters about The Supreme in this special is actually going to matter for the future of the show. On my first watch I assumed, like most people, that The Supreme was an evil Master Fu from the alternate world and while that could still be the case, I have reasons to suspect otherwise. Upon rewatch I noticed that the only time The Supreme is being described he's defined as a "being", which I found odd, a being who rules the world and everyone is terrified of, including our alternate heroes Shadybug, Claw Noir and Betterfly. Throughout the special, The Supreme is shown to possess an immense amount of power, as he's able to completely bypass the Miraculous' safety protocols, amplifying their powers, put some sort of seal on the Kwamis' mouths, preventing them not only from speaking, but also to fuse back into Gimmi, while in their unleashed forms might I add, claiming that he is the only one who can define reality and that reality is him. All of these details lead me to believe that The Supreme either is not human, was human but isn't anymore or, at the very least, is so powerful that others don't perceive him as such. From a narrative standpoint, it's also really weird, to me, to leave the entirety of The Supreme plot obscured and up for interpretation, as if it were a setup. This made me think of the Season 5 finale, when Lila equips the Butterfly Miraculous and electricity starts to form, as objects start levitating around her, followed by something or someone, that Lila has to look up for and is frightened by, appears with a bright light. What if that was the show's first appearance of The Supreme? Well, this would work almost perfectly considering where the show left off. Something that has bothered me about the finale is how much Lila is currently outmatched by the protagonists and their allies, since every other Miraculous holder who isn't her is working as a team to bring her down, all with unlimited access to their Miraculous; but if her powers could be amplified by an outer force, per say, then there would be an actual fight to put up. This would give her a reason to want the Ladybug and Cat Miraculous in the first place, as she's never been interested in them, however if she had to fetch them for her mysterious benefactor in return for her power upgrade, which is exactly what The Supreme does in this special by the way, then it would make perfect sense! What I'm, therefore, expecting Lila to become in the upcoming seasons is a worse written version of Catra from She-Ra, for those of you who have seen it, who works Horde Prime, the antagonist who is incredibly powerful and rules over galaxies, who also grants HER more power in exchange for her loyalty and servitude, all because she's motivated by feelings of resentment and jealousy towards the main character.

i heard "shadybug thinks that adrian is a slvtty ,stuck up, brat" and i was like "love to see it" HELP ME i heard "catching their breath, eating their kwamis", had to replay like 3 times to hear it right

Theory: in parallel world where wu didn't make mistakes, the original Miraculous organization became evil. Till today The Supreme is their current evil boss and with unknown identity What 'cha u think?

I thought the Supreme would be Lila too, but the argument for master Fu isn't bad. also, I personally love the name Betterfly and loved good Gabes design, even his normal human form. and one other detail I noticed about Celestecat was he had those angelic lamplight golden eyes, they were comforting to look at so that probably helped. also, I'd like to comfort you by calling out a logical fallacy. just because chloe was a bully in two universes doesn't mean she was a bully in all universes. there is still hope for her!

Ok hear me out. If Adrien was a Villian and somehow beat lady bug and got the wish. I can totally see Astruc making Adrien use the wish to bring his mom back and Chloe dies in the process. Also about Supreme, I genuinely wonder how does that work, like why would they trust 2 kids with canonically the strongest miraculouses in the show? And what about the other miraculous in the world like the heroes in America or the dragon like ones in china (I forgot where it was and how to spell it). Are they evil under Supreme? And who else has the other miraculous? I’m 99% sure supreme wouldn’t give it to Chloe, Zoe, Kagami, Luca etc. maybe Kagami’s mom since she is basically the stand in for apple and is popular enough that everyone in the world uses her tech, and either one of Zoe’s parents since they powerful and Andre is the mayor, but that’s it. I have no clue what or who could have the others. It’s a cool concept, kinda, and I am curious if emo Lady bug and cat noir show up again

It felt like an animated storyboard rather than a finished movie

there's one little thing I was a bit bothered about... like not so much but it just felt odd ok so why was the city so empty during the illusion giants part? like ain't no way not one person saw that and not panic it was so weird!!! like we have this enormous city and we have heroes and villains fighting and things gets destroyed and the fking Eiffel tower literally collapses and THERE WAS NO ONE AROUND!!! like did they forget to add npcs or something??? IT WAS SOOO WEIRD!!!!

amanda is the only reason im still updated on this show after 8 years

Okay, but hear me out. If you remember, at the end of the Miraculous season five finale, Lila is contacted by some mysterious unknown force (the flashing lights). What if the thing that contacted Lila was the other universe's SUPREME LEADER who is ALSO LILA!!!

Emo representation 🖤

This special was a breath of fresh air for all of us watching miraculous

I bet it’s Su- Han; who was or would be the opposite of worried about who would use the Miraculous for the evil . Who wanted to take the Miraculous away from Cat and Lb at first? Also - Su- preme! Like the Darth Vader of this World! Plus- they say - He- not She. Lilia could have an Antihero type motive?

Im Sorry but claw noirs design was something else 😭 Edit: a lot of designs were interesting actually 😭

My sister showed me the special yesterday, since she's more updated on MLB than me (I haven't seen the show in YEARS). It was great and I loved it! I really love plotlines that use "what if" or alternate reality scenarios. So seeing Gabriel being good was... a surprise for sure, but kinda nice. Also the theme song being sung by Gabriel's voice actor (Keith Silverstein) instead... also kinda surprised me but it was actually good. 😄

i loved this special sooo much! the heart to heart between marinette and shadybug made me cry and shadybug is such a well written character. she has so much personality i just loved every second she was on screen

If you havent seen or reacted to the office au for miraculous its SO GOOD and i recommend it fully

Omg you are so underrated ❤

I love the implication that... emo = eViL 🤪

I was waiting for your chaotic review

Chloe isnt evil incarnate in every universe just in the two we've seen

Really felt like the same wiring level as awakening movie

I have a suggestion for a show(s) you could watch. I’d recommend “Troll Hunters”. It’s the first series out of three shows. The whole thing is called “Tales of Arcadia”, and it’s made by the same dude that make the stop-motion Pinocchio! (There’s also a movie, but it’s a very interesting experience. Soooo beware when you’re watching)

Is it out?!

I left this show for like 2 months and this is what i come back to?

I hated that they baited us into thinking that there was gonna be more when Monarch attempted to travel through universes. I thought the 4 of them would have to fight him but no it's just a 3 min montage of Marinette ig😭 There was SO MUCH potential to that

[00:11:04] This giggle made me giggle as well, rewatched it several times! It's so funny they reversed the love square

I’ve never watched Miraculous but I’m fascinated

I love your vids

this was the most engaged I've felt from this show, I guess that's good payoff?... It's nice to hear your impressions!

you ate up the singing tho

Well in my mind if everything is reversed then I'ma just pretend that Bettermoth was working with Chloe and Lila, Allya(?) bullied Marranett(?) and Master Fou(?) is the Supreme

There were bad people after Master Fu who were trying to steal the miracle box a long time ago

ITS ALWAYS THE SEWERS!!!!!

The segment in the beginning is called a song intro

Where did u watch this I need answers

Where did you watch this cause you tube blocked it and their site is down?

This video is exactly 1190 seconds😊

Where did you watch the special at?

Miraculous went multiverse. I guess it was only a matter of time. It's not necessarily a bad sign though. Wasn't there another franchise that very recently went multiverse and it actually turned out pretty good? Darn, I can't remember what it was right now. It'll come to me later, I'm sure. Edit: I remembered. I was thinking of the Adventure Time spin-off.

Wait is master fu the supreme?!?!?!

I think another thing with the Chloe being mean in both worlds, Adrien's mum died both times. It's just a shared experience.

How did you watch it? I literally can’t find it anywhere

Apparently in the original French dub Gabriel's name is Hesperia instead of Betterfly. I would that to the English name

Where can I watch theme Oml 😭

Where can I watch this movie?

Girl if u pay wall the baker comic reactions I will end myself

I hated this special a whole lot because we saw literally nothing about the Alternate Universe. All they did was talk and talk and talk for 40 minutes and then it was over. Thomas Astruc has literally never heard of show don't tell.

Loved them being emo tho

I believe they did some shorts on RU-vid a while ago that were based on Marinette writing things in her diary. Btw why the f is she writing miraculous things in a normal-ass diary! That could just be broken into! She's smarter than that.

Where can I watch it?

In every universe there are canon events 1. Emilie dies 2. Nathalie uses a broken miraculous as seen in the movie 3. Adrien plays with dolls lol Never disrupt the canon Miguel O'Hara

I also wanna add that Emo Marinette doesn't have a good mom either. So her relationship with her mother is bad, she has no friends at school, no Adrien, and she's getting bullied by Chloe. I really like her characterization to be honest. When she vented to Marinette I felt so bad for her.

I feel like it should've been a bit longer to develop on their characters but the special wasn't as bad as I thought, it was way better than what season 5 had to offer.

It honestly kinda makes sense now, because people where always talking about if the miraculouses where created for the greater good then why does the butterfly miraculous exist? Well, this special shows us that the butterfly miraculous CAN be used for the greater good, and the ladybug and black cat miraculouses can also be used for evil if fallen into the wrong hands.

Claw Noir having the same goals as og Gabe is just further proof that Adrien should have been the protagonist since the beginning

This may be my own opinion, but this is probably the best the writing has been in awhile. Season 5 could never reach to the at least decent writing of this special.

gabriel really is an icon when he isnt an abusive flop!

i loved that shagybug's lucky charms were way more direct to what she needed to do in oppose to ladybug's like when ladybug got a car, she made a plan with driving it involved, but when shadybug got a car, she literally THREW the car lmao

The whole time I just wanted Shadybug to keep her original suit design. It looks so much better 😭

also, if ladybug and chat noir know that they are the shadybug and claw noir of the parallel universe, then logically betterfly's identity is monarch's and they could have just asked him who he was and had a strong lead to defeat monarch. so, plothole?

I actually didn't think it was that bad, but the missed chat-blanc angst really pained me.

lol I noticed a plot hole. If Claw Noir broke into Gabriel's base (aka his own house), wouldn't he piece together that Betterfly is his own father?????????

I think adrien specifically phrasing it as somebody else would have to lose their mom is a lot more powerful cause its like. I suffered because i lost my mom and i would never wish that suffering on someone else as opposed to just killing is wrong. like it frames it more clearly as him being empathetic which just makes me so 🥺

This special really gave Shadybug so much more depth and emotion than Marinette got in five seasons. Like Shadybug is just so much more of a fleshed out character, crazy

OH NOOOOOOO…they didn’t even make them look like COOL emos, they look like some poorly edited screenshots done by a 14-year-old who’s goin through it.

am i literally the only one that noticed this loophole since pretty much all the heroes knew that the villains were themselves in different universes, Ladybug could just ask Good Gabe for his identity so they could unmask their own Gabe, Monarch? that would have been so easy smh....

I need a whole series about reverse Gabriel he slayed in this special 🦋💜

As someone who’s never watched Miraculous Ladybug before, this was the wildest video to listen to… and yes, I did watch the whole thing.

I give this special a 8/10. I wish they did show us Marinette’s life in school than telling us. I loved Toxinelle/Shady so much in this. Sadly we can’t get a spin off since it is expensive to make. I wish it was a bit longer to expand on some of their fights. As much as I wanted them to stay as Villains I can understand they had to change to good to save themselves. I can’t wait for One Night Special next year to see Fei & Marinette interact again and maybe Fei making Jess her new friend too. I don’t think the Ladybug powers did erase their minds because they still recognized each orbe and acted all lovey dovey

I wouldn't be surprised if Astruc made Chloe the supreme just to assassinate the character further

This movie felt like a cash grab at the “multiverse” trend that movies have been doing. But I did like it more than the other miraculous world movies

I’m honestly shocked that Kim wasn’t dragged as hard as Chloe was. Or that Lila wasn’t mentioned to “hype” her atrocious character for when she’s the next Hawkmoth. Would’ve made sense tbh, with all of the terrible retconning in Season 5.

Hey Amanda, People have also summarized that the Supreme might also be Master Fu and Lila, but it could also be Su-Han to, I have theorized that it could possibly be Tomoe Tsurugi because the red emblem what was shown when Emo Marinette tried to summon Gimmi looks a bit like the crest of the Tsurugi Corporation, I wouldn't be surprised though since the Tsurugis due have a history leading all the way back to Feudal Japan and the family would probably have some kind of connection to the Miraculous or some other kind of mystical connection.

man miraculous is making fun of all of our emo phases with this special 💀

Literally every media is getting a multiverse saga now. I need the universe where it’s all animals/bugs and their Miraculous is a fairy/tiny human

The Supreme's voice sounded a lot like Hawk Moth's, in a lower pitch. Though, there already is a counterpart to Hawky in that universe, which makes things quite confusing.