The fact that dancers, choreographers and the visual director spoke up, Taehyun liked a post about Soobin's cut speech and responded to a post about Mamas saying he wants to undo it all and start over, Bighit released the damce practice immediately after Mama, Soobin and Yeonjun expressed their regrets, and Hueningkai indirectly dragged Mama in his live speaks volumes. The boys were so excited for this one, everyone worked so hard just to be paid dust. Fuck Mnet, fuck Mama.
Exactly THIS! I really thought, whaaaat? No zooms on their expressions, which should be enlarged on the screen on top? Their own video was so good with this it was so scary, but MAMA not so much, and then the screw up in the dance break began and it only got worse
I'm not a MOA( I'm actually a stay) but I was quite surprised at the fact that Straykids and ITZY had very elaborated stages but TXT didn't have a good stage( the lighting, camera work) and i watched their dance practice video, I mean... the color difference between the floor and wall really made their footwork standout in the dance break, you couldn't see that shit in the MAMA performance. I understand why MOA's are frustrated. I have a feeling that it might have to do with BTS not being able to attend. And pulling out in the last minute( for an unavoidable cause ofc) I think MAMA took out the frustration out on TXT. I mean the biggest fanbase in the world is not tuning into watch the MAMA, that's a major dip in their viewership. I don't think there's any other reason they would do this to a group from HYBE. Since majority of their viewers are Hybe fans.
BTS and TxT are under BigHit, which is part of HYBE. Enhypen is under BeLift, which is also part of HYBE. I usually don't go beyond being annoyed at stuff like this? But this time, I got mad when I saw TxT's stage performance, compared to most of the other idol groups there.
@@CindersVale Maybe I'm being a bit dramatic, but to me it felt like a subtle fuck you to BH. You're right the fact that they chose TXT instead of Enhyphen... speaks volume as well. This is fucking BH, they are known for their amazing stages. And MAMA is always a big chance for rising groups to show off their performances.(eg- Ateez had a rising popularity with their legendary 2019 MAMA stage) I'm sad for TXT for being robbed at that chance... but these award shows always have some shading or scandel involved every time. Already TXT is dominating.. i bet MAMA won't show this attitude to TXT in a couple of years.
@@CindersVale Enhypen is partially owned by Mnet, of course they wouldn’t do anything to them, belief is the association that created i-land and its hybe and Mnet, bighit is kinda a separete thing now, their only groups are BTS and TXT
it's so sad that the events of the night allow you to make such a long video, our boys, their dancers and everyone involved in their stage deserved better
I'm nctzen and I have never seen a group being disrespected so many times during the show so far. I stopped following MAMA and watched for the first time in a while last year as well as this year. Completely disappointed in this year's version. I wouldn't even call it an award show anymore, it just looked like a concert held by various groups and the stage called collab which was FAR from a collab stage ever. TXT mistreatment took a trophy when it comes to poorly done job, organization was horrible, camera work...who hired these people? Ridiculous show and unfairly biased but it's been like that for at least last 10 years. Edit: just to be clear, as some of you might get confused when I said I never saw a group being disrespected so many times, I meant that I haven't watched MAMA since 2015 so I *personally* didn't see this issue before. I do not know what happened between 2015 and 2020, I hope you understand what I'm trying to say.
@@AnneMagnette you probably didn't see these issues because exo and blackpink stopped attending mama long ago. Many non fandoms tried to mix it with issues claiming that blinks and exols were overreacting just because their faves didn't win.
This kind of mistreatment also happened with BTS in their early days..the fact that it is happening again with other k artist...especially their junior group is just frustrating..
HYBE need to hire and use their own personnel for any stage performances ... period !!!! This isn't the first time, for sure it won't be the last ........
Exactly. Sabotage comes to mind, and jealousy. Bighit should refuse to show case any of their artist, and just do prerecorded videos which they have full artistic control.
They did everyone dirty but not as sh*tty as what they did to TXT. I feel sad for MOAs that these boys had to go through these mistreatment from them. I've been into this community for 10 years now and I still can't understand why are people still hyping over MAMA. I mean, this show has always been so shitty even back then, I don't even understand the way they promote the show as if it was something great back then, NO. MAMA has been shitty and will always be shitty for the rest of years. MNET in general is a big red flag not just to idols but to the whole entertainment industry.
People hyped MAMA because it is the biggest Asian awards show in Asia and not just Korea and what makes them famous was obviously the first generation kpop idols and as years gone by it gets shittier but Mnet should be thankful there's 3rd gen groups that saved their show atleast
@@imwastingmytimeonthis677 people suspect that they don't gave awards to people who actually should win, makes bad editing choices etc... There are planty of thing fans hate about mama and mnet
That bird's eye view of the stage was ridiculous. The camera zoomed in when it should've zoomed out and then zoomed out when it should've zoomed in. Nevertheless, the dance break was AWESOME -- best one out of all that I saw -- thank goodness for the dance practice upload. I did get nervous with all those paper dollars on the floor tho and was afraid someone would slip.
The saddest thing is that non fans or those who don't keep up with news will never know about this. The only thing they will remember is the messy choreo and bad camera work. 😥😓
honestly i would rather see hybe shade Msnake than seeing the hybe artist getting mistreated like they dont even need Msnake because of how big of a company HYBE is
The fact that I didn't even notice MSnake's mistake because TXT looked so professional and because they acted like nothing happened screams "TXT issa professional".
Ok I'm very sad as a MOA but I'm seeing many generous comments from various fandoms like stays, exo-ls etc. Keeping the gloom aside I just wanna thank everyone for supporting our boys❤️🫂
And the most peaceful 4th gen fandom about to get them next time... Just watch out because TXT will come back stronger and Msnake will regret what they did here.
A melhor vingança é o despreso! Ano q vem ninguem compareça à essa porcaria de concurso e nem apareça nessa droga de TV. MNETV esteja com os seus dias contados!!!
To all my moa friends - don't be surprised and chill, afterall we should never expect mnet to be fair....As an exo-l I've already experienced more worst than this some years ago... So please be happy, because we all know that txt are great artists *and also unsubscribe mnet if you haven't* 💀
when i joined kpop, one of the first things i heard was how trash mnet was to certain groups, so everytime i heard something about them i was sure it was to expose their bs
Literally they are not doing fair with txt .....they gave the greatest hits of the year and still they r not being acknowledged the way they should be...they should be given more awards and must be treated best bcz they worked hard🥺
But wasn't the awards based on numbers and others simply scored better? I think it's ok, they'll get there, better organic growth than fireworks too early and then nothing.
I think at this point, they should just stop going for Mnet award shows. Honestly, all artists should so that *Msnake* would understand the feeling of "yOu BetRayEd Me"
I'm an old k-pop fan and I can't believe year after years Mnet keeps messing up performances.... From the lights work, to the cameramen, I mean, can't they ever find better people to do the job? Even the show kingdom was so messed up!
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And the fact that not only the fandom but even the boys, choreographer, backup dancers and visual director expressed their frustration alone speaks volume. Usually bighit post dance practice videos a week or two after but this time they released it in the same day..mama really pissed the whole company and the fandom
I REALLY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH TXT'S MISTREATMENT SO WHEN I WATCHED THEIR FROST PERFORMANCE, I WAS SERIOUSLY SURPRISED AT THE CAMERAWORK. I WAS CUSSING MNET EVERYTIME THEY SHOWED THE STAGE INSTEAD OF THE MEMBER WHO WAS CENTER ;-;
I've been and army longer than I've been a Moa and it's kinda sad what treatment TXT is getting idk if its true but I've hear alot of people say it's because BTS couldn't go, idk why mama is butthurt like the boys are on a damn break which is very much needed but I hope armys and moas and even other fandoms have experienced the mistreatment against their fave idols unite against mama because it's not fair
i was honestly crying watching it live and can't even bear to watch the performance anymore for the second time, its so painful to see my boys being mistreated like that
I watched the dance practice before I watched the real performance , i thought it would look so amazing on the stage with all the lightings and outfits but ☠️,,I couldn't even believe that that was the same choreo , 💢 msnake 💢
I'm not even a Moa , I'm a Stay, but seeing this saddens me 😥 why does mnet always shade other groups and focus only on groups that will gain them. this is why GD dissed them, now no YG attends MAMA. I'm so sorry for txt.
mama made them so dirty and im so sorry for them, honestly i even understand kais evil laugh. it was so disrespectul from them that they really cut off soobins speech, didnt add yeonjun on thumbnail and everything else.
Estoy enojadísima por lo que le hicieron a TXT, su presentación era espectacular y Mnet la opacaron con su poco profesionalismo.. espero que mis niños pronto tengan la oportunidad de presentarse en un escenario que les haha justicia. Fuerzaaa, MOA está con uds!!!
This time it’s not m-snake it’s m-anaconda. I am a stay and I do like txt (looking forward to Stan them). What’s wrong with mama’s cameraman tho? They did dirty to every group. I was like.. show us the artists not the air bish- what’s with that zoom out thing? I feel bad for txt.. how they just cut off soobin’s speech like??? Music shows cameraman are better then the award show’s tbh. Kai’s laugh reminded me of kira’s laugh tho 😂
Hyuka's laugh is so powerful it makes me so happy that they can show their discomfort and normalize the HUMAN FEELINGS and mama I swear I don't even know what to say anymore 🚶♀️🚶♀️
I thought the same when the performance aired, i was barely able to see their Choreography, and i thought i was the only one .. bt then i realised no I wasn't ❤️❤️
Uma resposta: não haverá próxima vez!!! Isso tem que acabar e essa droga de produção deve receber o que merece: q é o despreso! Ano q vem nenhum artista da HYBE deve comparecer nessa droga de concurso e nem em nenhum programa dessa porcaria de emissora de TV! É dessa forma que faremos eles se "ajoelharem" pedindo desculpas!
You summed it up perfectly. So, it’s a fact we’re all STILL angry at this, right? Ugh… *insert Hueningkai’s iconic eye roll while they were making them a tik tok after all that*
Im crying because they put there effort and they work hard for the big event but this is what they got. Im happy that the staff and everyone is fighting out and voicing out
Beomgyu and Taehyun being silent because they know that something isn't right and Mnet or Mama do it on purpose, even Soobin and Yeonjun realizes it after Heuning Kai dragged Mama names on it
Boi I wasn’t happy either, why cut off Soobinnie like that and all the other things they did? Mnet? More like msnakes ;-; TXT worked so hard just to be treated like a pile of dust flicked off a surface >;c
very much getting 2017 war flashbacks. always my ult groups getting terribly treated :( i stopped watching mama in 2017 and decided to watch again bc of txt and yea… last time i watch that shitshow
now i know y the big 3 didn't attend mama...broo imagine what would happen if txt didn't attend mama 2021...slowly others wouldn't attend either then mama will be begging idols to attend
TXT should just stop attending MAMA, they don't deserve TXT. Those angels still stayed professional even after getting disrespected and being treated unfairly. I'll be pissed off for as long as we don't get a formal apology.
As an Engene (Enhypen fan) I’m hurt by this. How dare they disrespect Hybe boys ? Both Heeseung (Enhypen) and Yeonjun (TXT) were excluded from the thumbnail of collab. They added Yeonjun later but Heeseung was still excluded. Enha boys were so excited, Sunoo said he loves MAMA so much he has never missed 1 single MAMA performance in his life, he always watch it live every year 😭😭
Yesterday was their DAY 3 of (ACT: Promise) and they were literally exhausted. Then there was a post which showed their TO DO scehdule (and it has AI voices of the members as well, wtf?!) Yeonjun was panting on the encore and got hate for 'bad vocals' and he later apologised for it. #stopmistreatingTXT #Give_TXT_some_break
I stan txt AND ateez too. They both deserve lots of respect from mnet bro. Cutting off soobin’s speech and being sooo rude to ateez during kd all in this year alone is messed up
MAMA is salty with BigHit…aka BTS therefore they took it out on TXT…..insert MOA’s…hold my coffee. They about to drag MAMA and MNET!! As they should! TXT sorry for the disrespect…y’all handled it like the boss group you are!! Congratulations on your win 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💜💜💜💜💜
Not TXT related but if something like that happened to one of YG's group then that would've been the first and last MAMA performance for their group until MAMA apologizes personally. HYBE better open their eyes more where monitoring award show performances for their groups are concerned. Tbh,what was even MAMA this year? HYBE should've made TXT stay home and collect their awards right at HYBE's building.