The Moment Qui-Gon Jinn Became Darth Plagueis’s Greatest FEAR! (Legends) 

Apparently even other Jedi Masters like Yoda saw him as more of a Grey Jedi than a fully committed light side Jedi

You mean an Order that has a double Standard? You let the old guy with the tall head have wife’s because of regional views

@@christopherfrost3333 I mean. Mundi was from a species that had an extremely low birthrate. Even in our world some religious orders let certain members have families so that their family line didn't die

Riley Davidson interesting, I didn’t know that.

Qui-Gon is that guy that wandered into a scrapyard looking for parts... and didn't even sense that the little kid helping them was a nexus of force energy, and had higher M levels than Yoda. Anakin literally had to follow them down the street invite them to his home, and then drop about a half dozen hints that he might be force sensitive... before Qui-Gon even suspected anything.

Ironic considering your username

@@Nebulasecura Darth Maul is my favorite baddie and Qui-Gon Jinn is my favorite good guy in the entire Saga episodes 1-6. So thier even.

@@darthqui-gon5986 true

Agreed Qui Gon saw the truth of the Sith threat behind the scenes and found the chosen one. He served the force not the republic as a true Jedi should

@@aamirrazak3467 exactly!

One of the great scenes from the Darth Plagueis novel was when Qui-Gon met Plagueis as his alter-ego Hego Damask. Even then Qui-Gon didn't like him, so it would be pretty amazing to see how he would react if he knew Damask was the Dark Lord who's Order he would eventually help to destroy. Thank you for watching!

Plagueis would triumph in devastating fashion.

It would be an epic long battle between them both with both of them exhausted and critically injured. Qui Gon Jinn is a Top Tiered Jedi Master and Plagueis is a Top Tiered Sith Lord. Yes it is a massive feat that Darth Maul killing Qui Gon Jinn for Darth Maul is a Sith Assassin that is personally trained to kill Jedi and him able to kill a Top Tiered Jedi Master is a massive feat.

@@DeathScepter as much as i like qui gon jinn, i wouldnt call him a top tier jedi, he had skills and capabilities above many of em and his ability to think for himself unlike many jedi of the time truly stands him out too but he would of stood no chance at all against plagueis, if maul defeated him then he would of got beat much sooner and probably much easier to against the reigning dark lord of the sith

@@DeathScepter he had alot of experience yes.. an ONCE was a top tier Master but by his fateful battle on Naboo he was no longer the Master and fighter he once was or he might've absolutely WRECKED Maul. If hed been a few years or a decade earlier Maul would've had little chance.

Also, Count Dooku would've never turned to the Dark Side.

Wyndell Lee maybe, but I think he still would’ve left because of the Jedi Order’s political corruption

He would have left, but not joined the Dark Side, at least in my opinion.

Isaiah Albers honestly, who would blame him?

@@macwelch8599 The council probably.

I got that reference!

Lmfao a year late but still hat off to your reference

And I hear by nominate this as best comment on a RU-vid video for 2021

Yo I wanna know what exactly would have happened if he didn't die and train Anakin and so on. Like there would be a lot different than what would have happened during the attack of the clone wars.

@@rudygomez8593 well knowing that Qui-Gon was a maveric jedi master. He would have taught Anakin to use and harness his feelings (as he would be unable to suppress them).He would then act more as a father figure to Anakin tempering his outburst while focusing greatly on his talents. Its often noted that the Jedi Council did much during Anakin's age between 10-15 in hampering his skills, often frustrating the padawan instead of nurturing his talent. The council felt that if they were to develop his strengths/acknowledge them he would grow arrogant (although the reverse happen, his frustration fueled his arrogance). SO Qui-Gon most likely would have personally trained him and gotten Obi-Wan to help when he was not called away on business.

@@everyonethinksyoureadeathm5773 Well in the movies Obi-wan was arrogant too in 1-2....and when he fought with Grievous

How did darth maul defeat him and then lose so easily in such a ridiculous manor to a padawan?

@@tori9365 In minimal terms: The Duel between Darth Maul and Qui-gon Jinn with Obi-wan Kenobi lasted for a long time during the Battle of Theed. Darth Maul being a Zabrak (excuse my spelling) and trained from a young age to be a fighter, battling multiple opponents numerous times, was more competent as a fighter due to having my stamina than Qui-gon and more experience than Kenobi. Maul had clashed with Qui-gon on Tatooine and was analyzing his fighting style. Coupled with the fact that Maul's lightsaber form is a poor match for Qui-gon's. Before getting seperated, Kenobi's constant barrage kept up the pressure, preventing Maul from forming a counter offensive. As they progress into the shield hall, the fight between Maul and Jinn became more and more evenly matched. In the final bout he found an opening and took it. Then we factor in that Jedi with green lightsabers are counselors that focus more on the force than combat and they were in an era of relative peace without many lightsaber battles with sith and especially against saberstaffs. There are whole videos on RU-vid that can explain it better than I if you really want a break down as to why Qui-gon lost to Maul.

Al qui gon fights like a real jedi with calm and precision

@@corradoalamanni179 Actually Qui-Gon's lightsaber fighting style was either similar or the same as Yoda's, with a lot of flips and acrobatic moves and using the force to enhance the body's capabilities, but it was during his older age he couldn't move the same so he instead of learning another fighting style just altered that same acrobatic style to fit how he could move. Haha I bet you couldn't guess how old Qui-Gon was during Episode 1, but it might surprise you! And that's actually the main reason he lost to Darth Maul, just his age making him less capable with his fighting style as well as Qui-Gon getting tired far more quickly than during his youth. In case you wanted me to tell you his age instead of looking it up, Qui-Gon was 60 in Episode 1. Isn't that surprising? But very awesome!

@@BouncinBrandon I was not referring to his combat moves but at how he behaves during the battle in an emotional standpoint

@@BouncinBrandon I disagree look at dooku hes ol jins master and even older

jessica 6d9 The most important part of his comment was about Jins fighting style. Dooku was form 2 which wouldn’t get worse with age, if anything it would get better. As a form that revolves around elegant Sabre combat the wisdom from previous battles only improved his duelling capabilities. Jins style however being mostly acrobatic would get substantially worse with age yet Jin opted to stick with said style.

Except he's dead, Sidious killed him

ThatLoneWolfGuy no one stays dead for long, they seem to pop up in some shape or form

Archie Stanfordgg if you need a book to make a movie trilogy not hot garbage then it was never good to begin with

Babu frik thou

Kylo ren

All the good characters were really underdeveloped. Probably something to do with them not planning out the whole trilogy

@Ulcerative Colitis Just like most Prequel characters.

@Sand general pryde?

lol I was confused as well

That actually makes me wonder... Have you heard how Count Dooku actually saw a vision of Dark Side Yoda? It creeped him out extremely, and he knew that Yoda was even more powerful than Sidious, but I wonder if Dooku would ever have been able to see Qui-Gon on the dark side.... I wonder what he would be like!

Honestly without Qui Gon, the Phantom Menace would have been such a flop we all would have forgot that it ever existed

@@thatlonewolfguy2878 Darth Maul is by far the biggest charecter out of that movie but ok...

The new canon doesn't matter, friend. He will always be important, just like Luke will always be the Luke Skywalker that's in Episodes 3-6, not the ignorant "fan-fic" depiction that was given to us in The Last Jedi. What you have to realize is what is "canon" doesn't matter, the Legends / Expanded Universe wasn't canon but it still almost entirely fit PERFECTLY into the canon context, and no matter how you try to look at it, Disney's trilogy does NOT fit into the canon context, which sucks because Rogue One is amazing and fits into canon perfectly, but not the Disney trilogy, friend. If you really care about canon then what you're saying is if Disney decided to remove the Prequels and Original Trilogy from canon and replaced them with a Muppet Special, THAT is what "real Star Wars" is to you just because the owners say so? No, friend. What the owners say doesn't make it fit into The Universe. Many people had problems with the prequels but they could NEVER say it didn't fit into Real Star Wars. But Disney's fan-fiction trilogy doesn't fit into real Star Wars. So there's no need to care about their canon. Just read more EU / Legends stuff:) There's even a time when Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan as force ghosts spoke to Vader, not appearing physically, but talking to him. The EU is FAR more REAL Star Wars than the "Disney Canon" will ever hope to be.

@Leo Jansen lol you mad?

Ned Stark is the Qui-Gon of Game of Thrones, wtf.

@Leo Jansen it's not that serious

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The force was like: Sith bitches tryna mess with me, well now, I'm just not gonna let that slide.

No the force allowed them to tip the balance to the dark. Because there was no consequence Plagueis wanted to do something even more extreme and pushed his power on every being in the galaxy to attempt to create a being storng in the force, but this time it resisted him and created Anakin to eventually strike back at the Sith.

Qui gon jin was obi wan kenobi's master.

Hammer of Hell yes but many do consider Qui Gon to be an initial master of Anikin

Leo Jansen not really because he wasn’t a Jedi at the time, he only became a Jedi after Qui-Gon’s death and so his master was Obi-Wan

Leo Jansen but he wasn’t his master because he wasn’t a Jedi, if Anakin wasn’t a Jedi he couldn’t have a Jedi master that’s how that universe works

@@connor4435 except it was Qui-Gon Jinn that won Anakin Skywalker via a bet on the Pod race, thus, even thou Anakin was no longer a slave, he did owe his freedom to Q-G-J and may have considered him a Master in some sense.

The Thrawn Trilogy?

@@bemotivated8443 Tie?

The Bane trilogy?

@@EchthelionII Stalemate?

@@vitorkennedy1862 That's fair.

Doesnt it kinda ruins the Rule of Two? What does the novel say about it?

@@ericfrolov148 Plagueus wanted to end the Rule if Two with Palpatine (i.e. cooperation); Palpatine of course weaseled his way around it.

Sideous was actually in control, and he orchestrated the events during the last decade of Plagueis’ life.

Alex M because it a movie...lol

Because force ghost can only pass on wisdom, not knowledge. They can't intervene on events. The Jedi Order being destroyed was actually part of "balancing the force".

Mike Keough hey. The new Lucasfilm is doing animated TV and the new mainstream films POORLY to say the least...but they do anthology movies, live-action TV, comics, and games really well

@@harrambou9468 They absolutely are getting some things right. I agree with you. But I'm still nervous especially with their support from fans being so shaky. Then there's the fact they cannot seem to realize we just want thought out story arcs and characters on a consistent basis. It makes me suspect they will double down on what they think will essentially trick us into buying their product by loading everything with lots of nostalgia but not really any substance. All the while potentially causing more damage by not truly understanding what we're actually wanting. You know, more story arcs and characters that took time, passion and care to get right. And I'm not promoting the Star Wars fatigue argument. I'm fine with lots of new content. But only if said content is getting the care it needs. Random side note; I think it would have been cool if they did something like the MCU and released the new trilogy in phases. Phase one would give a movie to Finn (as a First Order soldier), Poe (doing his Poe Dameron thing), Rey (as a junker on Jakku) and Ben/Kylo (either training and traveling with Luke or training with Snoke). Give us backstory and reasons to care. Then end phase with Episode 7. Rinse and repeat for 8 and 9. I get that is technically not original like I was indirectly whining about before. But it's a good way to get a lot of content out over several years, building support for the new trilogy and theme park. And they could test out new ideas and directors without risking the actual trilogy movies.

Thank you very much for the support Fred, it is great to hear that you are enjoying the videos!

@@starwarsreadingclub you are one of the view channels I actually watch when I get notifications. Keep it up.

Or they would under different circumstances.

no? they would have turned out in favour to the light side, as anakin would have not had as much anger snd emotions

Every time they come across someone more powerful/dangerous than them.

@Sub or you are against Trump in 2020 sith do have fear they just hide it well, its not something a sith would admit to either but its one of many dark emotions they use to fuel their power, sidious feared yoda, he also feared vader reaching his full potential too and overthrowing him at some point and he feared plagueis returning shortly after he killed him before he learned of mauls defeat