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... an intriguing coincidence, but who knows...
Apologies for the poor audio in the second part.
Dirac's Large Numbers:
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@colorcreme5185
@colorcreme5185 3 года назад
Very interesting, thanks for your work, I'm going to look into this further
@JackFate76
@JackFate76 2 года назад
Have you figured it out yet?
@OMGanger
@OMGanger 3 года назад
Well if we just consider magnitudes and don't expect to come across a number greater than 10^1000 then the odds of seeing 10^53 in a calculation is about 1/1000 which seems pretty high considering all the manipulations one can do.
@TheMachian
@TheMachian 3 года назад
Well, 1/1000 would be remarkably low for an random event... but bear in mind that there are two *independent* coincidences in Dirac's observations.
@johnlord8337
@johnlord8337 5 месяцев назад
In your previous Dirac vids you show these numbers as 10 - 39 and 10 - 78. Are these new 10 - 40 and 10 - 80 general terms or further clarification of the calculation ?
@jeremiwieczorek6628
@jeremiwieczorek6628 3 года назад
Therefore the monster with all his dimensions represents the fine tuned jewel. It makes a lot of sense.
@alejandrorivera4355
@alejandrorivera4355 3 года назад
I appreciate your effort to bring some truth, some light to the Plato's cave in which we can't realize we live in.
@suokkos
@suokkos 3 года назад
This made me wonder if faster speed of light in past would have caused measurable differences in cosmological interactions. I would need to refresh my physics knowledge to work out how EM or nuclear reactions might change in that case. (Assuming our current equation would apply)
@TheMachian
@TheMachian 3 года назад
This is a good question. If c decreases in that manner with cosmological evolution, certainly the history of the early universe has to be rewritten (which is not a great pity given the huge inconsistencies, say in structure formation). A greater value of G in early times would explain the surpricing 'clumping' of matter, but a quantitative analysis has yet to be done.
@antondovydaitis2261
@antondovydaitis2261 3 года назад
The reason I have previously dismissed a variable speed of light is the observation that stellar evolution seems to be consistent over time. Not being a nuclear physicist, but appreciating how good the models of stellar evolution appear to be, it seems unlikely that the speed of light could change without changing the results for models of stellar evolution.
@frogandspanner
@frogandspanner 3 года назад
String is not a theory.
@alexdevisscher6784
@alexdevisscher6784 3 года назад
Interesting thoughts. Do you think that fundamental physical constants changing over time could resolve the fine tuning issue?
@TheMachian
@TheMachian 3 года назад
I don't know what you mean by "fine tuning issue". I think the common use of this expression not well defined. The values of fundamental constants have to be explained, but not by anthropic arguments or similar stuff.
@alexdevisscher6784
@alexdevisscher6784 3 года назад
@@TheMachian yes, that is more or less my question. Will a theory of changing fundamental physical constants help us explain them without using anthropic arguments?
@TheMachian
@TheMachian 3 года назад
The system of changing constants is necessary if one want's to explain the gravitational constant G by the mass and size of the universe (and c, see my video on Dirac's numbers and way to QG). But there are other constants left. I did a systematic approach to this problem (i.e. good physics must do without any constants) in my last book "The mathematical reality".
@arulsammymankondar30
@arulsammymankondar30 2 года назад
@@alexdevisscher6784 I am afraid your poser misses an important point. The fine tuning argument is pressed in to explain the origin of life. How can variable fundamental constants, even if it is validated mathematically, address that issue? Surely, physics is not meant for that , isn't it?
@RandomMan1
@RandomMan1 3 года назад
More numerology than physics.
@TheMachian
@TheMachian 3 года назад
So Balmer was a numerologist, too?
@yawasar
@yawasar 3 года назад
Universe has E80 particles, 405E51 kg.
@czarekcz1097
@czarekcz1097 3 года назад
Dr Unzicker, I know these are rough estimations however I do not see the reason why universe "likes/prefers" fact that we have 10 digits on both hands... what are the accuracy of estimations of numbers at table published around 6:15 ?
@TheMachian
@TheMachian 3 года назад
Being cosmological data, it is only a order-of-magnitude estimate. However, as Dirac pointed out, there might be factors such as 137 in a final formulation. Thus the coincidence remains remarkable.
@tomctutor
@tomctutor Год назад
Exactly my point, why even stick with natural numbers for counting at all!
@Hicks-cw8qw
@Hicks-cw8qw 3 года назад
in 88, Jean-Pierre Petit published a paper in Mod. Phys. Lett. A. on the varying speed of light where all constants of physics varied jointly compared to space and time scale factors changes, making values of physics fundamental equations stay the same. The result is that at the origin of the universe, c and G are infinitely big while the rest goes towards zero. In the model all constants evolve tangentially towards today's values, but maybe they are still evolving and there is no final value? Were you aware of this?
@TheMachian
@TheMachian 3 года назад
I have heard of him, but I don't know the details of this paper. I also think that tehre is an evolution of constants, as explained in this video and others, and in "Einstein's Lost Key"
@brendawilliams8062
@brendawilliams8062 Год назад
Thankyou
@JAYMOAP
@JAYMOAP 4 месяца назад
You may want to speak to Richard Borchards
@neverever7233
@neverever7233 3 года назад
Dirac's Numberfilie.
@douglasstrother6584
@douglasstrother6584 3 года назад
"The Monster Group" ~ 3blue1brown ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mH0oCDa74tE.html It's a beast!
@kontrolafaktu2760
@kontrolafaktu2760 Год назад
It's not just the Monster group, it's all the 26 sporadic groups together.
@TheMachian
@TheMachian Год назад
Only the mosnter has the order 10^53.
@kontrolafaktu2760
@kontrolafaktu2760 Год назад
@@TheMachianIf one makes a scale that starts with the mass of a particle that returns a Compton wavel. = Hubble radius, than one would fit ~ 2.1×10^365 such volumes into the universe - and the direct product of the 26 spor. groups is ~ 2.32×10^365! (Hubble tension...). This has obvious VSL implications - maybe something like the size of the universe is almost always the same but the Planck scale moves...)
@kontrolafaktu2760
@kontrolafaktu2760 Год назад
@@TheMachian It satisfies one of the Dirac's conjectures that the mass of the universe is the square of it's age - ~ 6×10^121 and 8×60 Planck times. (and the mass is just the cube root of the volume)
@kontrolafaktu2760
@kontrolafaktu2760 Год назад
@@TheMachian btw (physical distance) the surface area of the universe during the transient eq. (start of "accelerated expansion") was ~ 8×10^53 m^2 and it's mass was 4×10^53 kg (dark baryonic) and total mas 8×10^53 kg (dark, dark, baryonic). The kg is not that surp. since it's close to one of suggested fundamental masses (bscly you get the same repulsion from dark energy as attraction from the Casimir effect at ~ 1 mm and 0.5 kg/m2 gives you 1 Planck mass per square milimeter). However... the 8×10^53 :D
@PSRPulsar
@PSRPulsar 3 года назад
In a current Universe the average ratio between average distance between nucleus and size of nuclei (proton) is ~10 ^ 16 (Average number of nucleus in current Universe is around one in 10^2 cm cube and proton's size is ~10^-14 cm). If Universe is closed (e.g. curvature is positive or density is just slightly more than average - ~10^-29 g/cm^3), one can try to derive the size (volume) of current Universe - probably assuming: - The age of Universe is ~13 billion years - to the ~ last scattering moment (relict radiation sphere); - The Universe cannot contract (as it should finally - if it is closed) to infinite small size/density. For closed Universe minimal length is ~size of proton (e.g. there is no space between neighborhood nucleus - protons). The matter state is close to neutron stars (or probably inside "Black Holes").
@TheMachian
@TheMachian 3 года назад
I don't really understand your point, what are you trying to say? The fact the universe is so balanced between open and close is precisely the remarkable thing, closel related (though not equivalent) to Dirac's observations.
@PSRPulsar
@PSRPulsar 3 года назад
@@TheMachian There were two points in my message: - Dirac refers to "Radius of Universe" what exactly does it mean? In case of open or flat Universe there is no finite Radius, Universe has infinite volume* So Radius (size) makes sense only for closed Universe; - There is minimal possible length for this Universe and it is size of proton (or around that order). Possible contraction (in case of closed Universe) would not cause infinite density (not even like Plank's length). We also know the average number of nucleus in current Universe - around one in 10^2 cm cube and proton's size is ~10^-14 cm. If assumptions are correct, one can probably calculate the "radius" of current Universe ... * Unless one assumes the radius of Universe as Rsh (Swartzschild), calculated for current average density of Universe, e.g. ~10^-29g/cm^3
@alexdevisscher6784
@alexdevisscher6784 3 года назад
@@TheMachian the fact that the universe is permanently on the cusp of an unstable balance between open and closed shows that we don't understand the universe.
@yawasar
@yawasar 3 года назад
Universe Sizes Copyright 2020 Wardell Lindsay Scalar Mass=405E51kg Quaternion Mass=810E51kg Scalar Energy=3645E67 J Quaternion Energy=7290E67 J
@Mumon010
@Mumon010 3 года назад
When we see a coincidence such as the ratio of the electric and gravitational force in the hydrogen atom being the same as that between the universe and the proton, mentioned above, it immediately excites our mathematical intuition. The reason may lie in the axioms of the mathematics itself or may represent a real relationship in the described system. You can't do physics without mathematics. In any case, it seems Dr. Unzicker's approach of eliminating mathematical constants is the right course of action.
@tomctutor
@tomctutor Год назад
We are so used to natural numbers for counting and measuring things , we have lost the whole idea of 'number' as an abstract thing, what do I mean? Rather than using ordinary numbers 1,2,3 (because god endowed us with fingers) and so on to measure scales in nature, we might be better to use the logarithm scales. Replace 1 with 0, 10, with 1, 100 with 2 and so on. So the present age of the universe Tu ~ 10.14 in these units. 10^53 the monster group size, becomes 53 which is not such a big number after all is it? The number of particles (nucleons) is estimated to be 10^80, or simply 80. The number of possible universes (number of ways to shuffle these fermion arrangements) is 10^80 factorial ~ 80^80 = 10^150 in my system, which frankly is the biggest number I can conceive of that has any real significance. Us humans are so biased when it comes to measuring things and what units we should use. _Should add we might as well use basic physics units for the fundamental constants, c=1, h=1, e=1 and so on and take it from there._
@Kurd05
@Kurd05 2 года назад
I certainly have come to a belief which I only came about because of the unnecessary complexity of the standard model, rather I think that we can describe the universe from interactions of numbers ( I.e the structure constants which don’t have any dimensions) like those constants, idk why physicists decide to look for accuracy in experiments than actually understanding why things work
@santerisatama5409
@santerisatama5409 Год назад
Interaction of numbers is called computation, but computation (ie. interaction of symbols) is not dependent from numbers. Physicists look for numerical accuracy in experiment because by academic indoctrination they are blinded by the absurd theory of real numbers and the blatantly dishonest claim that real numbers can do basic arithmetics. When physicist gradually developed and adopted the point reductionist theory of real numbers, with Cantor's voodoo of "infinite sets" and Hilbert's Formalism math and physics became worst kind of post-truth post-modernism. But the madness of point-reductionism really started from the Cartesian invention of coordinate systems aka "inertial reference frames". To which process philosophy responds: eppur si muove!
@minkcos
@minkcos 3 года назад
Seems like an "intriguing coincidence", theories of everything can consist of two parts, the current state (the data), and the equation (the calculation to give a future state of data). It seems most of the constants of nature you describe are more based on the data than the equation, even more so if you consider aether theories where space itself can have variables like tension that other observed constants could evolve from. I don't believe finding relationships between observed constants in "the data" part would be any help to developing an equation. If you figure out the equation part first, then you can just fit the data to what is observed.
@TheMachian
@TheMachian 3 года назад
I am not sure I understood your question. As I said, there is no hint yet how a useful "equation" based on this could look like.
@minkcos
@minkcos 3 года назад
Unzicker's Real Physics I guess we’ll need to wait for the next lone genius to come up with one then. :)
@brendawilliams8062
@brendawilliams8062 Год назад
It looks like a shame to waste work on a Collatz conjecture. The light problems should have been solved many years ago. Sometimes it takes time to realize how deep and long a silly argument can be.
@richardmasters8424
@richardmasters8424 3 года назад
Why should nature work in base 10?
@suokkos
@suokkos 3 года назад
Base 10 can be converted to any other number base. Base 10 has just become the dominant base used for numbers. For example converting to binary would be just multiplying the exponent with ln 10/ln 2 which is about 3.3.
@TheMachian
@TheMachian 3 года назад
correct.
@richardmasters8424
@richardmasters8424 3 года назад
Pauli - of course - that is my point - could the numerical symmetries work better in another base?
@brankozivlak3291
@brankozivlak3291 3 года назад
@@richardmasters8424 base 2 is better.
@richardmasters8424
@richardmasters8424 3 года назад
@@brankozivlak3291 - I prefer base 12
@Heracles_FE
@Heracles_FE 5 месяцев назад
You have a unique ability to see the overt wishful thinking and assumptions, while remaining blind to the surrender of fact to philosophy that happened hundreds of years ago . You have never challenged the earliest assumptions or philosophical choices . You accept the model that was chosen on purely philosophical grounds, by men who had no knowledge of the physics of electromagnetism . You accept mass based gravity, even though there is no one definition of mass . You accept that E = MC2 despite no definition for E . You think that things have been proven , when men make an equation with values that have been assumed . You need to go back to the beginning, Ptolomy was more correct than copernicus. The universe is electric. Ptolomy's planetary motions made the toroidal pattern of the flower of life . That which makes the least assumptions...
@soniahazy4880
@soniahazy4880 Год назад
😁🌟🌈🪷🧞💎🛸
@hanniffydinn6019
@hanniffydinn6019 3 года назад
String Theory is real ! Deal with it ! There are multiple dimensions and infinite universes! Deal with it! 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
@TheMachian
@TheMachian 3 года назад
Wish you all the best for your prayers.
@hanniffydinn6019
@hanniffydinn6019 3 года назад
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@daemonnice
@daemonnice 3 года назад
@@hanniffydinn6019 I have done all those substances and they have nothing to do with the untestable mathemagics of string theory. But, hey, if you are happy believing it so be it, just know that belief is an emotional attachment and does not require intellect.
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