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The Moose Scrapper Show Ep 1 Removing silver plate without acid 

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The first ever Moose show highlights some of 2016's successes and failures, learning experiences, removing silver plate, and a couple other odds and ends.
January 2017

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@ludditeneaderthal
@ludditeneaderthal Год назад
Use a thrift store stainless stock pot for your neg electrode, dangle your plateware from a plastic or wood spoon across the top from a wire hooked to positive, and your plate stripping will proceed faster (greater collector area)
@MichaelMichael-jr2de
@MichaelMichael-jr2de 3 года назад
Maddest respect. Be proud everyday, what a road you are on. Your knowledge is helping so much in many ways. Thank you.
@robbuechner3647
@robbuechner3647 6 лет назад
moose, on the big items I actually use a 5 gal bucket, just make sure you use a bigger item on your negative side. I've had to bend platters to fit. I've got 2 quart jars of powder.
@jazzdein1
@jazzdein1 2 года назад
Your follow up was solid, and you and your daughter is great. This might have been put up 6 years ago but either way you have a good outlook on life. Its appreciated 😌
@SpencerHarriman
@SpencerHarriman 7 лет назад
Thank you Moose Scrapper, I enjoy your channel and utilize much of the information you broadcast on separation and grouping.
@poosmate
@poosmate 7 лет назад
Thanks for a great video Moose, very informative. I think even I could get this process right! 2016 didn't seem to be that kind to you and there were times I was quite worried for you. But you weathered the storm and look at you now. I'm so happy for you. All the very best to you my friend. Poo
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 7 лет назад
Thanks Poo!
@mouthofthesouth4267
@mouthofthesouth4267 2 года назад
Hey from a jewelers point of view I suggest that you should use "kosher salt" you can find it in the international section in The grocery stores if it isn't in the spices section with the regular salts😘 Morton brand makes a good sized box of the kosher salt that lasts a long time👍💯
@bantalee2002
@bantalee2002 6 лет назад
use a "small" wire brush to quickly rub the silver off. I am processing large platers and plates.
@GHOSTHUNTER30
@GHOSTHUNTER30 7 лет назад
"I have a home I don't have to worry about moving again" I can't wait for that day to have my own home base.
@RuneChaosMarine
@RuneChaosMarine 7 лет назад
@21:00 when life gives you lemons, you no longer have scurvy.
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 7 лет назад
LMFAO!
@starlinegifts2012
@starlinegifts2012 7 лет назад
Love your vids! Good luck and best wishes for the new year!!
@timbossch8807
@timbossch8807 Год назад
This show was worth watching just to listen to your positivity. Thankyou mate, 😊
@truthseeker1623
@truthseeker1623 7 лет назад
moose you done it again great video on deplating silver very informative. keep up the good work.
@WilliamWallace187
@WilliamWallace187 4 года назад
Awesome video man I deal with antiques and have alot of silver to scrap. This is a very creative and awesome idea with electricity it would be awesome to throw in 10 pounds at once lol. Anyways what really stuck out is end of video what you said about staying positive. I'm on my third back surgery and waiting to get it. Thanks for sharing and being human god bless you.
@derekmcdonald5658
@derekmcdonald5658 7 лет назад
Hey moose love the new show keep it up man and good luck and best wishes for 2017 👍
@andrewjc12
@andrewjc12 7 лет назад
Good on ya to look for the positive. Great show Moose. Keep em coming.
@philais
@philais 7 лет назад
Yep....Happy New Year Moose, this one will be even better!
@jiplix
@jiplix 7 лет назад
Good to see your on a positive run, not been watching for a while so am unaware of whats gone down, guess I have some catching up to do. However I am liking the new you. well done and good luck on the 50 K.
@smithdml
@smithdml 6 лет назад
Love your positive attitude! Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
@bassmanbilly1969
@bassmanbilly1969 4 года назад
Great video, very informative. Happy New Year Moose. :)
@TheZorkiel
@TheZorkiel 7 лет назад
Hoi, the reason the amperage goes up is because as the reaction progresses more and more effective electrolytes and other impurities gets created, the solutions conductivity goes up, more current flows and the amperage goes up. Chloride ions binding to the various metals in the silverware, creating copper chloride, iron chloride and what not.
@SomervilleBob
@SomervilleBob 3 года назад
I use a small brass brush and a tooth brush to get the silver off after it's been sitting in the saltwater/electricity bath. Comes right off. Also, I use cheapo rock salt.
@Sorenzo
@Sorenzo 7 лет назад
I think doing this without chemicals is probably more cost-effective. One can probably scale this up, do several objects at a time, find a brush to remove the silver faster, and buy broken silverware in bulk. I wonder if the steel is worth anything after the silver is removed? I'm glad to hear your relationship with your daughter has improved. I know stress puts a lot of strain on relationships. So it's great that this aspect of your life has become easier, because your daughter needs you. Positive relationships build self-worth, which will help keep her out of trouble and mentally healthy. I know that from my own childhood :)
@rryder994
@rryder994 7 лет назад
Hey, always enjoy the show, and most of the time, learn something from it! and hey, while I've never had ankle surgery I've had 2016's like yours before....back about 1977, and then again about 1981 if you like, I'll tell you about it sometime. Oh, and yeah, keep doing the shows. Red
@winterfrinzl7386
@winterfrinzl7386 7 лет назад
What do you do with the silver after its removed? Can I simply melt it into an ingot?
@um999out6
@um999out6 7 лет назад
love the new concept!!! keep'em coming! :D
@georgerichardson964
@georgerichardson964 7 лет назад
Love your shows buddy, keep them coming.
@kevinsteve9453
@kevinsteve9453 3 года назад
Caught your latest vid yesterday, watched this while deplating 24 pieces. Carry on sir
@maxpayne2574
@maxpayne2574 6 лет назад
I used clear vinegar and salt comes right of no scraping.
@mareecathie2476
@mareecathie2476 4 года назад
I was going to try food grade phosphoric acid instead of vinegar with the salt. But I'll see. I used to clean steel with industrial grade phosphoric so I thought it might be a better option.
@bannglenn2565
@bannglenn2565 3 года назад
When you use clear vinegar and salt did you just let it soak there for a month or so or did you use that with the battery charger for 8 minutes
@burleybubba
@burleybubba 3 года назад
@@bannglenn2565 I read this comment yesterday and thought the same thing as you.
@JetscoachSam
@JetscoachSam 5 месяцев назад
Vinegar is key…
@3dguy839
@3dguy839 3 месяца назад
I used my heat vision
@mindofmetal
@mindofmetal 7 лет назад
Yah! the Moose is back..... Looking forward to the follow up with the bigger items.
@kitchcollins7586
@kitchcollins7586 6 лет назад
Hey, like the video. Pretty cool information that's all really new to me. I just started scrapping/ recycling recently myself so I have plenty to learn. I was wondering what you do with the silver after it is removed. Do you melt that down into ingots or something like that?
@russellpindar7717
@russellpindar7717 7 лет назад
Hey Moose, Ilike the new style show. Keep up the good work! (Lovin' the Moose mobile too!)
@waffatech6947
@waffatech6947 7 лет назад
thanks dear can i use batrey 12 v dc to make it w silver & gold please tell me i can joined to spoon w wire & put gold pins in it tell me can i do it
@robertmyers2661
@robertmyers2661 5 лет назад
I am trying this but the plating that I am removing is from silver platted copper out of big industrial breakers and I was wondering if you know why I am getting an orange color foam on top.
@prospectorpete
@prospectorpete 6 лет назад
if a knife says stainless steel on the blade , how do i know if the handle is also stainless or if its a silver plated handle
@tomakers9275
@tomakers9275 5 лет назад
Drop bleach on it, if it turns black its silver
@CR931
@CR931 5 лет назад
Your positivity is absolutely awe inspiring. Still love the channel. Not sure how I missed tho 🙌
@dixiespinner
@dixiespinner 5 лет назад
Hello Moose . Interesting video , Is it possible to use some of the used AP from fingers to separate silver from plate since there was very little copper on the fingers ? Thanks Rick
@michaelrobinson6474
@michaelrobinson6474 7 лет назад
moose i am a new subscriber. i watched about 15 of your videos today. and they are great. thanks for the vids and help with recovery of gold and silver. and i hope you continue to make lemonade in 2017
@sheilaagan1222
@sheilaagan1222 6 лет назад
I'm having problems getting the right kind of battery charger. Which one works?
@robertbeaver2780
@robertbeaver2780 7 лет назад
brand new to your channel and scrapping. your videos are the most down to earth I found. I just got half a dozen cell phones and 3 laptops out of closets in my house today(new remember) that I'll take a crack at this week. Thanks for the info!
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 7 лет назад
sweet! Remember that they are worth more for parts on ebay than scrap!
@robertbeaver2780
@robertbeaver2780 7 лет назад
Moose Scrapper yeah I've been doing the research. the scrap is just for fun and to do science experiments with the kids( don't worry they won't be near the acid). I'll keep checking your vids and maybe post a couple once I take all the info I've gathered and put it to use. keep it coming!
@danielhilty8084
@danielhilty8084 7 лет назад
hey moose the contacts or brushes in a car starter are they silver or silver plate was taking one apart and they looked silver if not what are they made of thanks
@redwoodbullion8626
@redwoodbullion8626 4 года назад
Could you also put a few pieces in the jar or do they have to be connected to the battery charger?
@rryder994
@rryder994 7 лет назад
Well, Don, whenever I come on, I check to see who's got something new, and if you do, I watch. have a good one! Red
@dingo1812
@dingo1812 6 лет назад
I was curious if I could remove the silver content of brazing rods which is 15% silver.
@theentertainmentbarn7236
@theentertainmentbarn7236 7 лет назад
great video moose ...wonderful idea with mild HCl to clear the water.. helpful to me when I processed next time
@tomt.75
@tomt.75 3 года назад
Thanks for the video, are you able to use this method with steel that is silverplated?
@melmoroz3907
@melmoroz3907 4 года назад
I bought a new battery charge and it seems it won’t send current , safety feature maybe any suggestions?
@garygeahos4363
@garygeahos4363 Год назад
Further note: I generally buy complete silver sets for about $50. That's about 38 pieces for an 8 place setting. There's a gravy spoon, serving forks, butter knife plus of course knives, forks and spoons. I get about 1-2 g per piece for a rough total of somewhere around 68 g. So, 68 g X.78/g (current price) = $53.04. Now take the metal to the scrap yard. It will weigh about 8-10 pounds. Let's say 8 pounds of brass. That will get you $24. Sometimes its a little more, sometimes a little less. But right now you have $53.04 + $24 - $77.04. That's why $50 is usually a good price to figure for purchases. This will generally give you a break even point + a little extra. Paid $50, got back $77.04 plus when the silver is processed and refined , that $53.04 will sell for much more.
@KoldKillaC
@KoldKillaC 8 месяцев назад
This was great information, thanks!
@benjaminpeterson1797
@benjaminpeterson1797 5 лет назад
can you help me? im getting dark brown deposits on my stainless steel during the process. Its 1/16-1/8 inch thick and i have no idea what it is. Have used muriatic acid but it comes back. What do you think?
@marcshuter5187
@marcshuter5187 7 лет назад
Hey man, I've owed you a 'like' and 'subscribe' for way too long now. I've learned a whole lot from your channel - this was one of your best IMHO. Keep up the good work, your channel is really helping a lot of guys, a lot of whom (unlike me), don't need a reminder to showing their appreciation more often. Long overdue, and for that much I'm real sorry. Glad to be sub 38,000 and 1. You look BTW, lost a heap a weight this year already. Take care man.
@harryforsythe6672
@harryforsythe6672 3 года назад
Can you use a Dremel with wire brush to remove the silver plating ? Then melt and separate silver from other metals ? Thanks, Harry
@onebigkahuna69
@onebigkahuna69 7 лет назад
I'm wondering if a sonic cleaner would work after you scrapped as much as you could off by hand.?
@kentieber7309
@kentieber7309 2 года назад
Damn I love the positivity. I'll be ch coming out the rest of your videos. I am a scraper as well and looking to diversify my abilities
@imunique7469
@imunique7469 6 лет назад
Don awsome video, yes be thankful and positive in life cause u only live once. Oh maybe think about redoing some of ur videos or updating I guess u can say, u never know u may have learned something different from the old ones. Just a suggestion, watching ur vids never gets old I enjoy and learn alot. Mid begginer scrapper. 😊 Dolores from Wichita Kansas
@ernestpetzrick7741
@ernestpetzrick7741 7 лет назад
Great Vid - thanks. Greatly appreciate the time you must have taken to test and run samples.
@grubbie-chub
@grubbie-chub 3 года назад
What kind of battery charger are you using? The one I have won't power on unless it is attached to a battery.
@krismcgehee6372
@krismcgehee6372 3 года назад
Hey Moose this is awesome! Can it be done with sterling silver? What acid ratio do you use?
@johnbates3197
@johnbates3197 4 года назад
Why is my water turning all yellow and sludgy? Do I put acid in to clear it up?
@JohnWilliams-ff4ws
@JohnWilliams-ff4ws 7 лет назад
ok Moose, I now have a muck, sediment mixture after doing about 20 or so pieces, looks like orange mustard? any ideas for the next step?
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 7 лет назад
I would add a few drops of HCL to get rid of all the muck and you should be left with silver and maybe some copper. Another HCL bath will get rid of the copper
@grumpyartist9416
@grumpyartist9416 7 лет назад
Hi Moose. I found that using an old stiff bristled toothbrush helps allot after scraping. Great vid !!
@dr.a006
@dr.a006 5 лет назад
phil, maybe even look for a denture cleaning brush? I know they are quite stiff and are cheap.
@johnlarsen2156
@johnlarsen2156 7 лет назад
Dear Moose great video and i hope you can help me... i have a 100 gram gold bar mix with other metals how can i get the gold out that bar ;) and i dont know how much other metals there are in the 100 gram gold bar
@paulchristenberry5140
@paulchristenberry5140 7 лет назад
another great vid Moose!!
@Ph0t0bug
@Ph0t0bug 6 лет назад
Is there any reason you cant just use a metal brush to get the silver off?
@MrKeithneedham
@MrKeithneedham 7 лет назад
Love your videos on scrapping, top guy 👍 keep it going 🔥💵 - keith uk
@beebob1279
@beebob1279 Год назад
This is a lot easier than doing the chemical thing. My father was an Industrial Arts teacher. He explained plating to me and how they could get plating off of things. This is the first time I actually saw it done. When you are scraping the silver off, why not use a pyrex dish so you aren't fighting a canning jar?
@floydevans6856
@floydevans6856 7 лет назад
hey if you done this with hcl would it work for gold??
@wizkid3978
@wizkid3978 7 лет назад
Show the gold plated stuff next are is it the same process and that's a battery charger correct?
@bannglenn2565
@bannglenn2565 3 года назад
To put this stainless steel utensils only is that what I'm looking for at the goodwills or do I stick sterling silver in with my water and salt to dissolve the silver off of it and what is AP
@robertvesely667
@robertvesely667 3 года назад
what do you do with the dirty liquid when you're done?
@samer537
@samer537 3 года назад
I would put these spoons in tumbler with stainless steel shots to clean spoons. Then, with magnet take out shots. Thanks.
@dwightgordon9354
@dwightgordon9354 7 лет назад
So, I've seen a couple of people have already said this, but I'm also thinking grill brush for the scraping of the scrollwork designs.
@christopherj5780
@christopherj5780 4 года назад
Moose i like your work. I go out to nature and find old artifacts. Ive found old silver plate silverwear, silver cup...scrape stuff. Didnt want to go the ap route but will try electrolysis. Good to know what to expect
@starseed13440
@starseed13440 7 лет назад
Also, I wonder about trying an ultrasonic jewelry cleaner to help get the silver fleck off without scraping? It might work..
@markmcdermott3801
@markmcdermott3801 5 лет назад
What about adding a electric heater. To make the salt water boil to remove the flakes???
@burleybubba
@burleybubba 3 года назад
@@markmcdermott3801 I use a fish tank bubbler.
@kamalsinghvig2076
@kamalsinghvig2076 5 лет назад
Hey How can i separate silver from tin?
@theseafox
@theseafox 17 дней назад
thanks so much moose! could you please tell me the formula for the solution that you use to dissolve the base metals?
@andyhenry8135
@andyhenry8135 Год назад
I’m getting this deep brown color it’s settling at the bottom and a thick foam same color at the top any idea
@robertocisneros1407
@robertocisneros1407 7 лет назад
Wonderfull video. Happy New Year!.
@aurunator5907
@aurunator5907 3 года назад
what happens if i use only a HCL solution plust electrolysis?
@mikepaul9176
@mikepaul9176 6 лет назад
I have a solar powered battery charger and was wondering could just use a 12vt battery instead of just a battery charger plugged into my wall outlet (thus using electricity that costs money). Or is the amperage too high?
@tomakers9275
@tomakers9275 5 лет назад
It works. The battery is only good for about 40 pieces but it takes less time, like 2 minutes per. I just did this myself. Dont buy any of this crap, there is no return unless it's free.
@zalmaflash
@zalmaflash 7 лет назад
Hanging in there and making lemonade is a great philosophy. Thanks.
@EvilSearchEngine
@EvilSearchEngine 7 лет назад
Hey Mr. Moose! One of my favorite experiments yet. For cleaning the silver off, has anyone suggested trying one of those ultrasonic jewelry cleaners? Keep it up! :-) As for the truck, I just had to drop ~$2300 on my transmission last week, but they also replaced a piece of the exhaust for me that was leaking. :-P For the problems they had and the tools they broke, I consider it a bit of a bargain. *Watching your own credits! XD
@lee-eb2cn
@lee-eb2cn 7 лет назад
have you ever scrapped a dashboard? I had to replace mine due to odometer wasn't working. I think it was very interesting.
@arches100
@arches100 7 лет назад
Happy New Year to everyone. If you want to remove the silver from the spoons etc. You can cut the spoons and throw in a drum with stones. Then you can do things other than removing the silver
@scottcope8778
@scottcope8778 2 года назад
I'm sorry that was a bad question can I use muriatic acid instead of hydrochloric acid to clean my jars and get rid of the base metal
@loganmercado9170
@loganmercado9170 4 года назад
I have done this a few times and I am having issues. I run 2 pieces of silverware at a time and I am noticing only 1 piece strips at a time at that piece is always on the positive side clamp any ideas?
@jerrykingsley6703
@jerrykingsley6703 4 года назад
wait....youre running two silver plated pieces at a time,? as in, one piece connected to positive, one to negative. you need to have a piece of stainless connected to the negative, and the positive to the silver plated
@area46241
@area46241 7 лет назад
Great show Moose!
@pixelpatter01
@pixelpatter01 3 года назад
The white stuff is Silver Chloride. Silver plating can be removed by removing the base metal underneath and letting the silver flake off or the silver can react with the chlorine being formed at the anode and form silver chloride. Watch Sreetips to find out how to process the silver chloride.
@Silvertoburn
@Silvertoburn 6 лет назад
Cool, thanks man!
@jamesromboldsr1852
@jamesromboldsr1852 2 месяца назад
Can you use a wire brush or a brass brush to get it off instead of scraping
@lincolnweller9123
@lincolnweller9123 Год назад
I just used a grinder and got a pound of grinding off about 25 pounds of scrap . So there will be a bit of copper for A HCI bath to work on . Process took a couple of hrs. So far . Really good for platters .
@Msoverhere2
@Msoverhere2 7 лет назад
Do you have to do only one item at a time?
@vibhavjindal124
@vibhavjindal124 7 лет назад
Hi , can you tell me which brand of bleach n what composition do you use for refining in place of nitric,'? Pls help
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 7 лет назад
in this video I use neither. Silver can not be refined with HCL and bleach. Gold however can be if the pieces are small enough. I use regular household bleach, no specific brand.
@stevenkhan5199
@stevenkhan5199 3 года назад
How about trying to use a solar or wind power set up, which could save electricity perhaps?
@fayezalhashem8771
@fayezalhashem8771 3 года назад
Thanks for the video have you done this with gold
@joedefazio1464
@joedefazio1464 5 лет назад
Might want to try a wet tumbler to get the silver off. Mainly used to clean ammo cases for reloading.
@wizkid3978
@wizkid3978 7 лет назад
How would you refine it further
@wecharg
@wecharg 2 года назад
HCL + Electrolysis, as one process, to make the process worth it?
@metalroofnc2044
@metalroofnc2044 3 года назад
How do you decide what to buy at flea markets etc?
@FollowMe2aMillion
@FollowMe2aMillion 7 лет назад
I'm with the guy who commented below, wire brush or steel wool. GREAT VIDEO MOOSE
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 7 лет назад
Yup, tried, forgot to mention it. It certainly gets those little flakes off, the only problem is then trying to get the flakes out of the metal bristles lol
@BearBoxBreaks
@BearBoxBreaks 7 лет назад
Great video Moose. Would you be able to use the same process with plated jewelry?
@moosescrapper5928
@moosescrapper5928 7 лет назад
silver plate yes. I will be trying gold plate for S#@&s and giggles this weekend.
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