@cyberpunkcentral8500 wrote: *Yes, I can't stand this. This man preyed upon and murdered a helpless, elderly person. I've seen "Bernie" and read articles about the case, and while I can see why people may be charmed by this character's eccentricities, this is NOT a story about an innocent, gay man being railroaded. This dude shot a little old lady four times in the back after living it up on her dime. I grew up in the Baptist Church in the South and I know a lot of these predatory slime balls. Bernie took advantage of a widow's loneliness and isolation, period. Maybe her family wasn't very nice or attentive toward her, but they're still allowed to be angry about this situation. I'm sure they are also a little bit ashamed of their neglect; they should be. No one was checking on this woman like they should've. Maybe Marjorie wasn't always the epitome of feminine Southern grace and charm, but she didn't deserve to be executed and shot like a dog after having been exploited for her wealth and longing for companionship. Of course he didn't tell her he was gay, he couldn't manipulate her emotions and give her false hope during their "dating" and "courtship" if he had.* --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I had to post this up here as it is an excellent explanation that even a 1st grader could understand and it's sad that more people don't understand how evil what he did is! IN THE BACK 4 TIMES! Geesh 😰
@SarahNGeti Those that justify or defend or support him are as evil as he. That is the truth of the matter. Worst of all, his lawyer Jodie! She is terrifyingly EVIL, beyond Redemption, and with the kind of vengeance seldom matched.
The last time the granddaughters saw her was in 1994, she was killed in 1996, they didn’t check on her until 1997… that doesn’t sound like a loving caring family to me.
I'm half way through the episode and I get the feeling her "loving family" cares more about the fact they're left out of the inheritance than anything else.
Yes...she asked who they were when they came by to check on her. Not what I would call a "close" relationship. They ALL wanted her MONEY...Bernie and everybody else.
How long does this "disassociative experience" last? He supposedly had one while he shot her. Was he having one when he stuffed her in the freezer? Was he having one while he cleaned the crime scene? Was he having one while he forged her signature on bank withdrawals?
Meanwhile singing hymns and acting all lovable. Was he dissociating then too? Or does he get to turn it on and off. But on the other hand, stuffing her body in the freezer could not be the solution of a clear mind.
So what if she was an old evil or not so nice. He shot her and killed her. He had no right to do so. It’s absolutely disgusting that people are justifying his killing of Marjory.
I mean, he shot her, stuffed her in a freezer and continued to spend her money. Sounds like the jury got it right here. The people who can't see that are just delusional.
So true I’m so disgusted with this and him trying to play the victim!! Grandma is dead with 4 bullets in her back and stuffed in the freezer ! My common sense is triggered!!!
Sounds like she was a mean, gready, anti-social person while he was this nice, social guy, sharing his money with all the villagers, paying off their debts and handing out scholarships. It makes sense that they don't care she's dead and they want him to continue share her money with them. He's kind of like a Robin Hood to them.
He swindled his way into a lonely old lady's life, stole from her, catfished himself into her will, waited daily for her to die but she just kept living till he couldn't wait any longer. He deserves life behind bars
@@Loudes012 he traveled the world for free. That is your evidence that he really cared for her. It's not even necessary that he didn't, he could care for her to some degree while stealing her money by forging documents (the evidence IS there for that). He can justify that to himself by saying she just has more than she'll ever need. One day maybe she finds out and he reacts out of fear of getting caught, or maybe she was abusive to those who weren't family and that made him snap one day. Either way she is clearly the victim. He was not trapped enough to justify what he did, if it was really so bad he could request a police escort to peacefully leave the property. Situations that justify shooting someone in the back are exceedingly rare.
@@Loudes012 he traveled the world for free. That is your evidence that he really cared for her. It's not even necessary that he didn't, he could care for her to some degree while stealing her money by forging documents (the evidence IS there for that). He can justify that to himself by saying she just has more than she'll ever need. One day maybe she finds out and he reacts out of fear of getting caught, or maybe she was abusive to those who weren't family and that made him snap one day. Either way she is clearly the victim. He was not trapped enough to justify what he did, if it was really so bad he could request a police escort to peacefully leave the property. Situations that justify shooting someone in the back are exceedingly rare.
@@matthewfaulk Exactly. And had he really cared for her (and not just cared for her money), he could have helped hire someone to come in help her since "it was such a strain on him" and she had given him a lot of authority he didn't have to do it all himself. He did that so he could isolate her & no one else knew what was happening but him. Then he took over her bank account & stole the money. Then he killed her in cold blood. I'm not buying any story or anything he is selling to the media!
They didn't know their grandma and what he was put through. I've always thought she was a mean old lady. Those granddaughters should have been around more to see how she really was.
I know. A lot of people are falling for Jack amd Bernies charm in the comments. I think 20 years with parole is a fair sentenced, but to get out and be celebrated like that after just rubs me the wrong way.
@@PenskePC17 I don't agree. A life sentence is appropriate. He embezzled nearly 4 million dollars, shot her 4 times - 2 of which at point blank range, put her in a freezer (no doubt his opinion of her), and goes on to forge checks- payable to himself! Back in my day, he would be taken out back...And that's only because of the way he speaks & carries himself.
"Difficult? I think any of us can be difficult. I mean, I'm as difficult as a ole sittin' hen sometimes." This lady deserves her own morning show. She is the best.
My IMMEDIATE thought was the family were angry about the will...it's ALWAYS ABOUT THE MONEY...if they gave AF about her, they'd have been right there with her the whole time...9 months til they even bothered to look for her is pathetic...however, Bernie shooting her was not the solution, I understand the trapped feeling and the building resentment...even the ability to just snap one day...but he should have walked away...not killed her, no matter how abusive she was to him. I feel like the family knew how she could be deep down...but they stayed away and ultimately what happened happened... It's sad though...
Right!! Con men like Bernie know how to be very lovable and nice. There are lots of murders who came across as nice people before they killed. Rupert Murdaugh, Ted Bundy, etc.
@@user-mm1nt1it5v I don't think they're defending him as such, just admitting that he was so likeable that when you spent time with him, you wanted to keep hanging out with him.
This story is outrageous. He was relieved they finally came for him (NINE MONTHS AFTER HE MURDERED HER), but couldn't just turn himself into the police immediately following the crime? I do not trust a thing this man is saying. I don't care how many hymns he sings or crocodile tears he cries. He is a murderer who targeted this much older woman and exploited her for years.
@@Mimi73161yes that woman is delusional to out in so much time to defend him without even knowing him. Outrageous and the creator of this movie? He’s insane as to how much time he has devoted and supported him. Crazy
Damn…he shot her FOUR times in the back!! I am not saying she wasn’t abusive, but so was he abusive/manipulative. Most sociopaths are charming (and liars) and he conned so many people into believing him, including the filmmaker smh. Did he tell them why he was stealing her money? I think he made her so dependent on him that when the relationship went sour, she threatened to remove him from her will and he was afraid she would find out about the money he was pocketing. I can’t believe they are trying to make excuses for him. He can cry and feel sorry for himself but he knew what he was doing.
They say it was the "Disassociate experience" he was having, that the body acted without the mind. I'm not a doctor, but I thought the body requires a mind to act.
i was going to say the same thing but didn't know how to type it out where the letters get smaller and smaller and go up higher and higher. you captured it well!
No matter what, this guy killed an elderly woman in cold blood and should not be held up as some kind of celebrity. Maybe her grandchildren are uncaring or greedy for their grandmother's money. However, they are her surviving family and should be heir to her assets. This case was a complete circus and I would be angry if that was my grandmother that got killed.
The usual it happens in family's instead of mourning ther supposed ❤ one there fighting over 💰 makes me sick money means nothing a loved one does shame on them all
I don 't believe that any one is entitled to be heirs of someone's assets -- whether they were sons, daughters, grandchildren. - If the woman wanted to leave all her money to a charity - for animals or anything for that matter -- her money, her decision.
WTF is wrong with people? He stole an old ladies money, put four bullets in her back, then stuffed her in a freezer! These people defending him are as crazy as him!! I can't believe this guy was let out of prison for two years.
@@junemarshall-kingsley566well said. I think his behaviour was really creepy. Why do people think he's a saint? The narcissists flying monkeys by the sound of it. 😕
Just started watching this video, but it appears that people hated/or at least disliked the woman. Plus it was a woman. If he had killed a man Texans would be more empathetic and thrown him in prison for a long time!
Her family should’ve been there for her! I used to work as a home health aide and I loved my clients just like they were my grandma or grandpa. I had one 98 year old client that lived alone, and she had dementia and couldn’t even make herself meals. Plus she was a fall risk! My job was to go there around breakfast time and make her breakfast and take her dog out and clean up her apartment. Right before I’d have to leave, I’d make her lunch and dinner and stick it in the fridge so she’d have meals for the evening. I told my boss numerous times that I was worried about her being there alone when us aides weren’t there because she was getting worse and worse and my boss told me it was all up to the daughter that barely ever saw her. 😣 Eventually, she ended up falling one night and wasn’t found until the next morning when my coworker went over there to make her breakfast. She ended up dying shortly after that while in the hospital. Always find time to check on your elderly relatives! They matter and they really need the company and the care in their life.
My wife runs an in-home care agency, and it has really opened my eyes to what awful people the families of the dying are. We had a client a few years back who fell in the floor at around 2am trying to get to the bathroom. His son and daughter in law were his caretakers, so he called them to come help him when he fell. They waited until 6am to call us to make sure they’d get paid before they went over and helped him up. My wife told them to just stay home and we would go help him up. The man had been on the floor for 4 1/2 hours, lying in his own waste while they knew the entire time that would be the case. When he passed, they tried to change his will and have my wife notarize it. She refused, of course. Mind you, this guy had very, very little, but they were rubbing their hands together and waiting for him to pass to get it. I can’t imagine what the wealthy go through with their families.
EXACTLY! There are a ton of old people who need someone to look after them but who happen to have no money. How come he didn't help old people without money?
Considering his popularity and fan club, it seems he a very nice person. But the money obviously made it easier to be there full time and do all sorts of fun things, which she enjoyed a lot. It would be a lot harder if the person was poor. I dont think it started for him bc of that money. Rich people can use their money to 'buy' people. So that initiative was hers.
I don't think he should be out of jail, do think he lied, covered up, etc. However, I do think that it is possible to have a relationship like that without money. My Gma & I got along good like the pictures and footage show of the two of them and neither of us had a dime. We played cards, went to the grocery store, and just sat around visiting. I think we would have just had even more fun if one of us would have had a lot of money. We, also, got mad at each other sometimes.
I think Bernie is a typical pathological liar and cold killer. He used her, spent her money, forged checks and balances, then when she found out and got tired of her he cold hearted killed her. Put her ina freezer tells a lot. What I was shocked was that the director and actor were fooled by this serial liar/murderer like all other cult members. this is the good example of why the cult prisoners fans exist.
Yes, I can't stand this. This man preyed upon and murdered a helpless, elderly person. I've seen "Bernie" and read articles about the case, and while I can see why people may be charmed by this character's eccentricities, this is NOT a story about an innocent, gay man being railroaded. This dude shot a little old lady four times in the back after living it up on her dime. I grew up in the Baptist Church in the South and I know a lot of these predatory slime balls. Bernie took advantage of a widow's loneliness and isolation, period. Maybe her family wasn't very nice or attentive toward her, but they're still allowed to be angry about this situation. I'm sure they are also a little bit ashamed of their neglect; they should be. No one was checking on this woman like they should've. Maybe Marjorie wasn't always the epitome of feminine Southern grace and charm, but she didn't deserve to be executed and shot like a dog after having been exploited for her wealth and longing for companionship. Of course he didn't tell her he was gay, he couldn't manipulate her emotions and give her false hope during their "dating" and "courtship" if he had.
@@cyberpunkcentral8500 Your comment should be tagged at the top! Excellent explanation that even a 1st grader could understand and it's sad that more people don't understand how evil what he did is! IN THE BACK 4 TIMES! Geesh 😰☹
Most ridiculous thing I’ve ever seen to think he isn’t a cold murderer who stole from her. I would never watch the movie made. Dissociative episode (and his lawyer couldn’t even pronounce it correctly) is BS. Everybody who kills someone could use that. Absurd defense. I’m just shocked.
Me too! I'm glad SO many people on here are seeing it. Poor lady & her poor grandkids who never saw that coming & she acted like she didn't want them around. She must have had dementia for when they stopped by & she said "who are you". I was watching the murderers face while he was being interviewed, many times and he went from crying to a straight face back & forth just like a professional actor during all his interviews. 🙄
"Bernie" is a fantastic movie! One of my favorites! He's doing the time and while I am not minimizing his actions, if you watch the movie, you can understand how he might have snapped given her constant belittling and controlling personality. Excellent and funny portrayals by Jack Black & Shirley MacLaine! Well worth the watch if you can "disassociate" from your outrage.
Agree. That response that someone snapped is rare & is documented. When it's self defense usually, or under some circumstance that could give you temporary insanity. Like someone just killed someone & you killed them in a temporary rage. But this guy calmly put her in the freezer and left her almost a year while he forged checks because everyone trusts him. Hes a smooth talker, was he insane then too?
Having sympathy for this man is crazy... the way he cries for 'the difficult time' during which he'd hidden her body in a freezer and was then LYING to the entire town about her whereabouts. WTF
The assassination of this poor women character, it doesn't matter what this woman did she was murdered . And that man put her in a freezer then kept stealing her money . What a piece of work he needs to be in jail for the rest of his life .
Uh, no. If anything, they went easy on her. She was estranged for many years from her only child, and treated everyone in her life horribly. Despised by everyone she knew.
How sickening that a man who shot an old lady 4 times in the back is now celebrated. He cries because he was abused as a kid and then found her abusive? BS. My name is Jennifer Wallick. I was abused when I was 6 by a man who worked for my dad. I was then raped by a mentally man. Finally, I was sexually assaulted for a year by my boss who was the the Associate Provost of Lehman College in NYC. I sued him and the college and was in the same court house as E Jean Carroll. Did I ever do anything violent to anyone? NO! This Bernie becoming a celebrity is a punch in the gut for her family. Shameful. Just shameful.
He tried. She licked the gate. Do you think she wouldn't have made his life miserable if he left? She owned him. What he did was wrong, but he didn't plan it.
That's not what premeditated means. Premeditated means he planned on doing it BEFORE he did it. Like planning when and how. This was in no way premeditated. That old bat pushed him over the edge.
@@lisastevens2431He saw a $$$ sign on her back the moment she lost her husband. An old lady full of money isolated from her family. He knew exactly what he was doing.
@@lisastevens2431 Not gonna debate if her family were money grabbers or not. It’s irrelevant. They weren’t the ones that forged her signature, stole almost 4 million from her, shot her 4 times in the back and put her in the deep freezer.
He met a vulnerable old lady with lots of money and preyed on her, then brainwashed her into thinking he's the only one that cares about her 😮 lies lies lies
Oh my god the grand daughters are so fake…. Let’s be honest the moment she changed her will everyone stopped talking to her… that’s why they didn’t find her for 9 months.
Whether premediated or as a result of a "dissociative" episode (love how Van Sant called it a "new age" diagnosis), the man still killed somebody. That's not in dispute. I'm floored that Linklater let him babysit his kids!
When did they say he was spending her $$ after she passed? And what was he spending it on? Just curious cause I didn't hear them say that. He was the benefactor to her whole estate in the will, had it been natural causes. Don't ya think he could've made it look natural? Or just waited for her to clock out & reap the rewards, house, assets, bank acc. Imho
@@ImmortalOutlaw84The money that Bernie spent was spent on the towns. Poor people in schools and scholarships in churches... He still drove an old beat up car.
Wicked man. He killed the old lady in cold blood because of her money. It's sickening and sad to see so many lunatics defending him including that crazy Defense attorney!
The fact that the pictures of this man, who claimed he was only there to help the old lady, were everywhere in the home but those of the woman's husband and possibly family were not shows just what Bernie's plans were. That alone is enough to make me not believe a word the guy says, regardless of whatever relationship there was or not between the woman and her family.
My mom knew her, she was a hairdresser and went to beauty school with the guy that did Mrs. Nugent's hair, they then worked at the same salon for a time when he was doing Mrs Nugent's hair (she drove from Carthage to Longview to get her hair done, because the words I heard come out of her mouth was "those women in Carthage are hicks and don't know how to properly style hair), then later my friend (who did my hair) worked with Mrs Nugent's hairdresser, I personally saw how she treated people and she was not a kind person. She treated Bernie horrible in public, she spoke down to those around her. But that did not mean she deserved to be killed.
I've never heard of a funeral director that comes and checks on his clients after the funerals. Very weird!! This guy is a conman and murderer through and through.
It’s not very weird. It’s a small town thing. We’re in Texas too and and someone from both the places we’ve used for a family member has checked on us. I don’t live in the same town. But only about two hours away.
@@manda.watching.RU-vid I'm also from a small town in Texas. Also about two hours from Carthage. Never had anyone from the funeral home show up at our house to "check in." They sure did call looking for money, though.
I agree, that is odd. I think he did i because she had a lot of money and knew that visiting w/ small gifts would allow her to see him as a nice person and ultimately - a friend. Whether he cared for her or not idk, but his primary focus if not from the very start, was at some time fairly soon after to have her money and all the trappings of an extravagant life, if even for a little while.
He is a textbook communal narcissist. Looking like a good caring person, helping the community, while being evil and coldhearted, cruel inside and behind closed doors. People who were raised by a CN know what I am talking about. These adults, once they want to put boundaries or go low or even no contact with this parent, they will have the whole brainwashed community on their backs screaming the song about the ungrateful child... This CN does not have kids, but he has the community completely brainwashed and blindly obedient.
Hear, hear! 🎯 My parents were communal narcissists. It was very painful to hear at my mother’s funeral, how a psychologist’s wife, a special education teacher, gave a speech and called my mother the most motherly person she had ever met in her life. 😳🙄😣😞
If anyone has had experience of a a family member who have suffered from some kind of dementia you know that some of the symptoms can be extreme aggression. It doesn’t excuse her behaviour but she clearly needed professional support if that’s the case and her family should have intervened.
Ninety-nine years. And he deserves each and every minute of it. He is a thief, a murderer and a liar. If he was being abused by her he could have gone directly to the authorities and explained why he did what he did. But he did not. He hid her murdered remains in a freezer and lied repeatedly to her family. All while spending her money. Guilty.
He's a murderer. He killed a woman by shooting her in the back. 4 times. How anyone can see this as anything but shooting an elderly woman until she was dead to steal her money is beyond me. Im glad the judge could see through the lies
Bernie obviously did it, but those grand daughters give me bad vibes. You were so close it took 9 months to notice she was missing? C’mon now. They seem like they’re embellishing a lot of their memories and wanted money 🤷🏼♀️
It's obvious they weren't close and she wasn't a kind loving lady. That doesn't mean though that Bernie taking advantage of her can't be true at the same time. It's just weird how the granddaughters are trying to paint their relationship as very close, as if it was a prerequisite for not wanting sy to take advantage of their grandma. I need to keep my distance from most of my family for my own well-being but I still wouldn't stand for sy shooting any of them in the back 4 times after using and abusing their money for months or years.
Also she traveled frequently and far away… and they were young and in college. Even if they weren’t super close bc she was tempestuous doesn’t mean they didn’t love her or not want her to be used and murdered!!!
Nine months and no welfare check is kinda wild. Let’s be real. If grandma and you were THAT close and she was THAT lovely, idc how busy college student you were. Why wasn’t dad checking on his mother?
I also noticed that. If Marjorie was truly as kind as her grandchildren described her, then why didn't any of her neighbors check on her? Of course, this doesn't excuse what happened to her, and I do not condone his actions either. I'm just curious as to why none of her family or friends went to look for her when she hadn't been heard from in the first few weeks.
The granddaughters visited in 93, then again in 94. How much more could they do? "Hi grandma, just checking to see if you're about to die. See you in 95"
I love your tell, tell story! Granny had her yearly visits from the granddaughters until they finally became strangers! Ouch! She has another visitor! It was amuck!🎉
How in the world has this man managed to pull the wool over Jack Black and Richard Linklater?? How are they not seeing what is so plainly obvious, that this man is nutts!
How does someone take care of your grandma for a period of time, an employee and beloved friend, and every person in a 6k town knows this…but her loving family doesn’t?
Because they were only interested in her money. Why didn’t they ever just call her to see how she was doing or take an unexpected trip down to see her. They were too busy to include her in their lives, but they were sure ticked off when they found out they weren’t gonna get any of her money. 😂😂
The granddaughters obviously didn’t really care about their grandmother but that does not excuse the fact that he stole money and murdered the woman in cold blood. He is where he belongs. We as a society have got to stop making excuses for murderers.
It is absolutely disgusting that the filmmakers did not reach out to the victim's family! Why was it important to get to know the murderer, but not the victim? I am glad that justice was served, and he is where he belongs!
Oh my God! People are so gullible. I’m a first generation immigrant, wasn’t born in wealth, I should be on his side but it is clear as day that this guy took advantage of an old grieving lady and to add insult to injury, shot her four times in the back! He couldn’t even tell the one woman that he claims to be really close to that he was gay. He knew why he hid that part of himself. He ran a con on her and is a big sobby crybaby!
@@pixels2u Yep! Because when hens are sitting on their eggs to hatch them, they can get pretty mean because they are defending their eggs/babies. Hence the saying!
@@pixels2u”mean as an old sittin hen sometimes “ was actually what she said. I had to listen a couple of times but your comment had me wondering 😂 fits my grandma perfect. Boy she could be fierce and she would tell you right off and didn’t bat an eye. 😂
I loved this movie but when you see the real Marjorie and how cute and frail she was it’s hard to imagine how anyone could shoot her in the back or the front. Bernie befriended her, stole her money and murdered her. Period.
So we are to believe a granddaughter that had not seen her grandmother in years prior to her death???!!!! Someone that SUED their own grandmother is a person to believe? This story is so sad. What Bernie did was very wrong. He is paying for that crime. The family could at least be truthful regarding their personal relationships with her.
Granddaughters are so jealous of the money. If they were so involved and truly cared and loved their grandma, there wouldn't be a need for Bernie. As simple as that.
He robbed that old lady and continued to rob her after he shot her at point blank range and put her in the freezer. What is wrong with you? You are obviously easily conned.
Simply not true. All humans want companionship, a partner; no matter the age. My grandmother started seeing a man a few years after grandpa died. She was 70. They even married. Grandkids do not equal the love of a partner
I hate to hear the granddaughters portraying the perfect grandma when they didn’t even see her often. Ears went by and they never visited her. They didn’t even know she had had a friend leaving with her for nine years. And they saw her one last time two years before she died. They have no shame
Exactly. Bernie is a murderer, of course. But let's be real: Those granddaughters didn't give a damn about that lady; those tears are for the 3.8 million they feel they were 'cheated' from...but they weren't there clipping her toenails in her final years, were they? Took them 9 months to even go down there and check on her.
Wow, a killer can be seen as someone so wonderful! Only in these times. Unbelievable. He is still a killer just because he is all gentle and sweet like.
Good Lord! She even looked like Shirley McClain! I can't tell yet if I believe him or not. I can't wait to see the rest of this. Edit: and if it took her family 9 months to notice she was dead, how close exactly can these crying folks be to her? 9 months?!!? And hes so obviously gay! He wasn't romancing her. 😂😂
Exactly. They (the family) were just in it for the money. That's all. She wasn't some sweet old lady LMAO far from it. Funny how they have their blinders on. Bernie sounds innocent IMO and clearly he is out of prison (haven't finished the episode yet).
Watch the video. They knew something was askew and had doubts about grandma receiving them or rejecting their visit again. At 9 months, they finally insisted on checking in person
@@tammytaylor1278 I would be pushing it, too. I'm just not sure how I feel about those women. They come off kind of fake to me about their feelings for her, but that's just what I think. Other people see it differently. I just don't understand waiting that long to REALLY check on her whether our relationship was strained or not. The worst she probably would do is tell you off. But again, that's just me.
It is the first time I hear about this case so I’m watching it unbiased. After hearing the granddaughters and seeing him I believe the granddaughters. It is understandable they didn’t approach her until Christmas which is a family festivity, she traveled a lot, last time they visit they saw how he had isolated her from her family. He was after her money, once he was in her will that was it for Nanny. It wasn’t even self defense, he was big, she was small and old and he had to shoot her in the back and in the neck? Then you have a Hollywood movie director that turned a criminal into a victim and victimized the victim twice. That movie was so biased that the director didn’t want to know about the victim, just the poor good man that had been abused by an old witch that made him rich. I’m so glad he is behind bars and I hope he stays there.
I'm surprised that no one around the old lady recognized a lot of her behavior could be signs of dementia?? Instead she's labeled as cruel. Not even her granddaughters notice. Feels like so many failed this older lady. Bernie is no better. Whatever she triggered in him still gives no right to take her life.
The defense lawyer saw an opportunity to make a quick buck after seeing the movie and conned the judicial system with her crazy idea just as much as Tiede conned everybody else. What a waste of everyone's time and resources!
If a person you care about is mean and you've had enough, GET OUT! There is no excuse for killing an old lady, just so that you can get some more money out of her before the family figures things out. I believe he is where he belongs.
People feel sorry for him because he was "trapped," but trapped by a frail, elderly lady? How about trapped by his own greed? It is very easy to walk away from a little old lady. But if she has discovered your dirty tricks, that's another thing.
@@junemarshall-kingsley566 Narcissists are often very charming and, above all, very convincing. They are very good at building up an unshakable fan club that stands by them, no matter what. I don't believe a word he says.
@@AnimaLiberacorrect! I Wonder if the gay thing and sweet Southern accent did it? Deep South people, easy targets. I know firsthand. Imagine him speaking in NY accent, straight man. Not so innocent then is he.
The only reason the granddaughters are angry is because they lost out on her money. They barely visited her. Bernie took care of her every need and realized a stranger was treating her better than her own kin. He did a horrible thing. He deserves his punishment, but her family didn't help her at all when she was a widow.
He took care of her every need because he was after money. It is irrelevant what relationship she had with her grand kids. He shot an old woman on the floor at close range. He is a nasty piece of work.
You conclude all that from one 45 minute episode of a family you don’t know. That’s some very scary logic and thinking you have there. The truth is you know nothing about their situation. Those girls were away at college at the time. Please open your mind to the myriad of possibilities within peoples lives. They shared only a small snippet with the public.
Not only did he shoot her he cleaned up the blood put her body in the freezer and covered it up and knew it was in there for months....he knew what he was doing and tried to get away with it.... should be life in prison
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Disappointed in Jack Black and the people who made a movie about this killer/con man. Everything was right there in front of them and they chose to make a fantasy movie. Instead of telling the black and white of it, they chose to show people how sweet he was. He's a cold blooded killer. He deserves to be in prison for the rest of his life. And I think he should be forgotten about. He doesn't deserve any more press. Condolences to this woman's family. I can't imagine finding my Grandmother frozen in her own freezer. I hope they stripped his bank accounts and gave back what was left of her money and possessions to her family.
I had some sympathy for the guy until the DA started outlining the way he manipulated her financial statements. That's a pretty strong motive. Also, that lady's family wasn't much of a family...NINE months before they called the police? That's telling about her change in her will and perhaps her real personality. That said, no matter how nice Bernie might be, he still murdered someone and covered it up.
Doesn't matter what she said or did, she was an elderly lady. If she was so bad, leave her alone to fend for herself. 🙄🙄🙄 He's obviously bigger and stronger. But of course, no self control and he wants the money. 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
IMO, if Marjorie would have died some other way, would her grandchildren still complain about Bernie? They didnt spend much time with her, yet expected inheritances.....greedy people dont trust anyone.
@@thomasgentry6201 my thoughts as well.... Cause if they were checking on her (if they were there for her) while she was still alive then maybe she didn't have to rely on her killer. And they keep on saying he stole her money.... Dang! He stole her life and that's what's more concerning!
@@soulglory6696 but their words when interviewed.... That their granny is a good person.... So are they lying? Or did I get it wrong? Did they say she's mean and they can't stand her?
Jack Black saying a murderer who shot down an old woman going back to prison is discouraging isn't my perspective. I find it very encouraging. Go justice!
@@RoseDreamful she couldn’t reach her grandmother so she visited the house. Once she realized it had been vacant for some time, she started looking around. What’s so hard to understand about that?
WoW Tiede a classic textbook narcissist and his flying monkeys Black, Linklater and his lady lawyer. He conned a whole town after shooting an old lady in the back, 4xs, stuffed her in a freezer and was still stealing her money. His defense, I'm being misunderstood. 🙄
The people who think this guy is a victim are seriously gullible, I'd say worse but RU-vid will delete it, even though the words I'd use are in the dictionary. He's a con artist, plain and simple.
If the granddaughters were that concerned for their grandmother, why walk away? Why not persist and continue with regular contact? And not being in contact with her they surely wouldn’t have known what kind of relationship they had. All they had to go on was their own personal account of their relationship with her when they were children.
Even if he did “snap” and he was abused, he shouldn’t be free to roam. A person who snaps and kills somebody is an unpredictable dangerous person regardless of how he looks on the outside. That woman was surrounded by terrible people.
