The Most Beautiful Five Channel Amp Ever? Rockford Fosgate Power 1000 25 to LIFE

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Let's take a closer look at the 25th Anniversary Edition of the Rockford Fosgate Power 1000 amplifier also known as the "25 to LIFE" version. This is a five channel amp rated to deliver 50x4 plus 300x1 at 4 ohms and up to 150x4 and 800x1 at 1 ohm. I'll test all channels, do some bass demos, SPL tests, check out the amp guts and more!
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@wal 4 года назад

Shop for Savard Hi-Q 8" Subwoofers as shown in the video: Amazon: amzn.to/3b3NLf4 See the previous test of Power 1000 amps: 1991 Power 1000c Amp Dyno Test - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MEuEbuNbcHc.html Rare 1991 Terminator Edition Power 1000c Mosfet - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ro1rra0bmGI.html 2016 Power 1000x5ad Tested: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Tz3HvIcjoYA.html SMD / D'Amore Engineering Amp Dyno: goo.gl/sJTcf7 XS Power D1400 Batteries - amzn.to/2BPFCKW XS Power PSC60 Charger - amzn.to/2CHGcfs Fluke 1000A AC/DC Clamp Meter: amzn.to/2Rw5WDA Handheld Dyno: amzn.to/2u2EgKV My Favorite Screwdriver Kit: amzn.to/2x0VzcE DISCLAIMER: This video and description contains affiliate links, which means that if you purchase from one of the product links, I may receive a small commission. This helps support the channel and allows us to continue to make videos like this. Thank you for the support!

@ericsantiago6832 4 года назад

That box won't give you no more than 135

@albertopompilio1 4 года назад

my best friend had 2 GS-500 and 1 GS-300!!!! All 3 got stolen WITHOUT setting off the Viper Alarm!! COPS nailed the 3 installers 1 week later lol CANNOT Describe the clarity @ 155Db Full music!!

@chevguy8587 4 года назад

Does the old school amp put out cleaner sound than the smaller new style? Or is this smaller one better.. I'm an old-school type of guy

@etbough1 4 года назад

Big D please tell me what the most powerful bass amp you can get for around $60 is???? any ideas I am on a budget

@Silkmaster4200 4 года назад

That amp should sound nice my 15" Rockford Fosgate HX2 Duel 3" coils 4ohms 600rms, 1200peak. Hz range 24hz-200hz. All i need speakers front and back. Good to go lol

@ohyeahyeah1400 4 года назад

back when amp companies used to underrate amps rather than overrating them.

@funnytoe 4 года назад

Great job I really appreciate you taking the time to go the extra mile and set up the SPL meter. Please keep doing that on your amp dynos

@trevorvantiel453 4 года назад

Keep up the great work. You have reignited my passion for car audio. Working on collecting some of the classics. Thanks for all your amazing videos. Thank you for your hard work and time we all appreciate it.

@wal 4 года назад

Awesome 👏

@chrisbilski3982 4 года назад

I had one of those until 2009 or so. Thanks for bringing back the memories of the 25 to Life Power 1000.

@coronachan7237 4 года назад

Holy crap man. Can you even hear anymore. I remember on hooked up to 2 15" Vega strokers. It popped the back window of his 87 chevette.. lol

@wal 4 года назад

I finally found one I could afford from a viewer. Now we all benefit 👍

@xalint1 4 года назад

Beautiful inside and out. Thank you for the internal shot.

@travismclendon8961 4 года назад

I love the oldschool dyno's. Hopefully more to come.

@Leethal1 4 года назад

Man what a beautiful amp! Thank you for the treasure you bring us Big D👍

@gmcminitruck 4 года назад

I so want to install my 25 to life, but got other things to tackle first.. Thanks for yet another nice video!

@wal 4 года назад

Thanks for watching and commenting!

@davidwong8808 3 месяца назад

I have number 323 of 2500 with everything but the shirt and hat. Never used it just tested it and after watching this I may have to hook it up. Thank you for the test very good stuff.

@Brian1. 4 года назад

One of the best Big D vids. Great amplifiers, all 3 of them!!!

@spotty811 3 года назад

Thanks for shaking my walls and everything else in here. Always nice waking neighbors with my Old School Kicker C18"'s getting a workout

@Benbits7 4 года назад

Oh yeahhh!!! The good old Rockford 🙌 excellent video💪

@hooshfarperakis1282 4 года назад

You are just having too much fun with this!! Top Notch as always!

@wal 4 года назад

Thanks for watching and commenting!

@JesusSaves86AB 4 года назад

Man I had a pair of T3002's from mid 2000's and they were huge, insanely underrated. Honestly not a big RF fan but their oldschool stuff is great.

@rlg222 4 года назад

Oh Man! That was the peak of my car audio days in 1991! It was my passion :)

@wal 4 года назад

Those were good times, but car audio was very expensive!

@Nickword1 4 года назад

What a beautiful piece of car audio history right there!

@nickmoore4212 4 года назад

I still have mine from back in the day I wish I had the box by threw it away I love it. Does all my door speakers and sub all-in-one

@wal 4 года назад

Yeah perfect all in one amp! Just BIG!

@nickmoore4212 4 года назад

@@wal it is but it's not too bad it runs my treo perfectly LOL I was thinking about selling it one day but I probably never will I do need the original bass knob or one similar if you know anybody selling them or where to get them that would be awesome.

@nickmoore4212 4 года назад

@Stimpy&Ren it's definitely true crazy how things have changed

@TruxCustomz 4 года назад

Thanks Big D, that video was awesome. Killer amp!

@wal 4 года назад

Thanks for watching and commenting!

@SouthernStreetRacers 4 года назад

Big D man you my favorite old school to watch do what you do, keep up the good work buddy I love the videos , oh and I’m good friends with ole Keith Payne, I hang out and sponge as much info as I can from him he’s a good dude, I’m 52 and had plenty systems, I gave Keith a Phoenix Gold 5 channel amp called Reactor, I’d love to see it on your bench

@Jayb21724 4 года назад

Great videos! Be nice to see some old Alpine 35 series amps from the 90's..keep up the great work.

@wal 4 года назад

1989 Alpine 3545 vs Precision Power (PPI) 2350DM Amp Dyno Drag Race ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VbfBwLvaj4E.html

@hooshfarperakis1282 4 года назад

yes please!!!! I used to run a 3544 and 3543!!

@mines10inches 4 года назад

I had the Poer 1000 25 To life up until a couple of years ago. Unfortunately I had to sell it to pay the bills. Absolutely loved it and would one day like to have it again. I still have a vast collect of Car stereo & Security, Autosound, Car audio and a few other publications

@catchtwentytwo643 4 года назад

I had two Punch 45’s and two Punch 150’s, the 45’s ran the mids and highs, the two 150’s each ran a Punch 12” Pro. Great sounding system, and loud!

@workingclassperson2124 4 года назад

Man audio is fun fun fun! You remind me of when I was a kid and just having speakers and subs everywhere and just having fun and learning stuff. Stay cool broHamsky /;)

@coronachan7237 4 года назад

Thanks for opening the shirt to show us. I remember seeing one once at a comp . I'm old now and can't remember how to tune my new amp you tried to kill. Boss Armor 1500. To a stock ford fiesta radio 2015. If anyone wants to toss me a tip I thank you.

@wal 4 года назад

Best to ask Five Star Car Stereo when they do their live streams on Monday

@evanfield580 4 года назад

I have always wanted one of those,beautiful amp

@wal 4 года назад

👌😬👍

@Dauntless.steadfast.fortitude 4 года назад

As ALWAYS my man BIG D smoking the competition with legit testing & great unbias videos...RockFord Fogate for Life & Big D RU-vid channel for Life !

@thecman26 4 года назад

I totally remember that issue of Car audio and electronics! That thing is an absolute BEAST!!!!

@baileybasshead8762 4 года назад

Yeah I know everybody wants to be eco-friendly but damn I wish I had a collection of 90s audio mags for my man cave

@donellis5005 4 года назад

I miss those Auto Sound & Security magazines do they make them anymore, and I really miss the magazines that tell you what new rims are coming out and who makes them

@Everett-xe3eg 4 года назад

Great video Big D, I love the size diference in the 3 amps. The small one is my favorite tho. But 941 watts wow!

@wal 4 года назад

Boom shocka!

@azmike1956 3 года назад

This is a little off point but may save some unwanted interaction. I recently reconfigured my HT system but didn't do the mandatory walk around outside to see how much went above & beyond. At approx 12:00 AM I was reminded to by Scottsdale PD! They were cool but don't forget about keeping peace with your neighbors! Love you guys, just trying to help. PS. I live just about 3 to 4 miles from where they make your amp dyno, 7 miles from MTX & have a buddy that worked for RF. Small world!

@MisterEE100 4 года назад

The 25 to Life amp looks amazing, but at the end of the day, now I am getting old I would have to go with the Small T10005XD just because I'm now into "practical" age where I want great sound and minimal space taken up. Thanks for all your videos, you're great and I look forward to your next one.

@atate23 4 года назад

Whats the practical age???

@myboy051 4 года назад

Tater Tot - i would say around the age of 38 or older .

@justinkelsey9218 4 года назад

@@myboy051 im at that age and I like the charm or having an old school RF amp that I could never afford when I was younger and just dreamed about. When it comes to 4 channel amps the the small boosters can give u 75×4 and be tucked behind the head unit so it doesn't get better than that for practicality. Running my subs off an old 800a2 tho

@roswell266 2 месяца назад

no i get it im 59 cranking Judas priest ozzy still just got rid of two 1100 a2 amps ,still listen to rock just dont blow my windows anymore well sometimes

@trollslayer8260 4 года назад

Very beautiful find. Nice video , good job.

@wal 4 года назад

Thanks for watching and commenting!

@thomasolmstead8757 3 года назад

I like your work and I enjoy your vedios very much keep up the great work D your awsome

@msh6865 4 года назад

Nice Dyno and review Dereck. I wish more manufacturers nowadays would offer "hybrid" amps with both class a/b for mids and tweets with super efficient class D for subs. Best of both worlds really.

@wal 4 года назад

Agreed! I think with size requirements these days we will most likely keep seeing all Class D

@TheSFFV 2 года назад

She sure is purty! Can’t believe I missed this one.

@toddhansen5072 Год назад

Such a cool amplifier!!! The car audio industry was so much cooler back in the day!!

@Helectronics 4 года назад

Beautiful amp with great power!

@bigdan2828ify 4 года назад

The original Power 1000 was the Baddest back in the day, I also had a punch 25 to life, but never saw a 1000 model before, great video👍 The 2 best amps I ever owned for 2 15s was the Earthquake 2150 and Zapco Z1502c.... if ya ever get a chance, please do vid on those and would make my day, lol

@Averna222 4 года назад

I wish you were in my area. I'd love to drop off my T10001bd, same vintage as this one, just to see what it can do.

@egsmachine 4 года назад

love that interior

@Werewolfmage 3 года назад

wow that amp is so beautiful!

@larrymillhouse2955 4 года назад

That thing is fricking awesome!!! The coolest one of the bunch!!!

@ryanlindahl2714 3 года назад

I had that same amp with alpine 7803 pull out loved it

@robland6118 4 года назад

I wish this had a heart thing like Facebook does. I love this amp. Thanks for the video bro.

@mgsdmagnum3309 4 года назад

Leave a heart emoji

@chadgardee1496 2 года назад

25 to life for sure my favorite

@Thumper68 4 года назад

Very impressive results especially for the time. Definitely sexy amp but a fingerprint magnet I’m sure. Great video!

@wal 4 года назад

Yeah she’s easily scratched too

@user-jk5ph7wc4e 4 года назад

Had one of these 25 to life back when RF was auctioning stuff off on Ebay. Got it for a smoking deal. Ended up painting it black and it looked even better than the chrome. Sadly one of the visual signal output ( vu meter ish) got stuck. It made crazy power and every channel was rated for 1ohm, unheard of to this day. If you ever saw a black one, it was mine.

@rockfordbreda 4 года назад

What a beautiful 25years amp. The vu meters are very nice. It's as always good on power. The chrome is nice. And on your question, I like the power 1000 C more. It's the first and best. The new t1000 is also nice,and very compact. Next time a X1 testing from RF😎😎😎 or a x7😎😎 Keep up the testing it's very very very nice to see. Big 👍👍👍👍

@gordn24555 4 года назад

Great video, can’t go wrong with RF amps

@wal 4 года назад

That’s a fact!

@kevindement7418 4 года назад

That's why I've always been a Fosgate fan. You can bet they put out what they say it will. You might pay more, but you always know what your getting. Good job DWIZ!

@wal 4 года назад

Thanks for watching and commenting!

@joecool7165 4 года назад

As always big do you such a great job you give so much more information than anyone on the Internet testimonies. I wished everyone would send you their amplifier and pay you to test him. I also wish you would come up with a way to sell new stuff preferably Orion and such to all of us. We would definitely support you by buying products. If you do sell the stuff that you show. Would be nice if you had a way to list it. I hear you’re on eBay? Not really sure if that’s true maybe advertise your eBay site if you do.

@wal 4 года назад

I do not sell much on eBay at the moment but I should set something up

@Mr3121994 4 года назад

Keep up the awesome job

@wal 4 года назад

Thanks for watching and commenting!

@dhestondh 4 года назад

I love the five channel chrome one it's a throw back to when fosgate was in top of the car audio food chain

@wal 4 года назад

RF and Kicker spend more on office supplies than most of these other car audio companies make in a year 😬

@JoshuaGalerBluexElectronics 4 года назад

@@wal Sounds like a quote from a movie I love 😂

@chief9-10-games5 4 года назад

Damn Rockford makes some beautiful equipment great video from my guy Big D And like they say you get what you pay for and in this case it's ALLOT 👍🏾 🔊🔊🔊-🔊🔊🔊!

@Mappy-xn1om 4 года назад

I still have one ! It needs a new power mosfet set - had it replaced once before - changed up to the T1000.4 2015

@Icemancomp25 4 года назад

Awesome video! Rockford is legit.

@jeffyoung2089 4 года назад

Thanks Big D!

@wal 4 года назад

👌😬👍

@patkowalczyk1 4 года назад

One of your best videos yet !! I have a few questions about amps and signal processors, if you don't mind answering I'd be grateful. Do the new and far smaller footprint amps have less reliability and noticeable SQ difference than that of their predecessors ? Are they more bulletproof then the awesome old school amps ? The technology has improved and with having robotics and much easier to mass produce, but I would rather have old school amps like the Kicker ZR, RF, or higher end like US Amps or Linear Power. Is it much better to have an external high end signal processor/eq over controlling sound from a high end head unit like Kenwood, Pioneer, etc. ? I see the high end signal processors such as RF Helix Audison Mosconi and others along with the lower priced versions and wonder if there is a day and night very noticeable SQ difference from having an external signal processor over the nice head unit. Those Savard 8" subs have great bang for the buck 500 watt RMS for $125. I would enjoy watching a video showing some of the top rated 8" subwoofers in a DB challenge and side by side comparisons . Big $ -Sundown JL Digital Designs DC audio B2, etc. Bang for buck subs- Memphis MOJO CT Sounds B2 Skar Savard RF Orion Kicker,etc. SQ top end subs -Focal Dynaudio Hertz,etc. Thank you for posting these great old school and new tech videos which helps to entertain us during these tough times.

@hcr403 4 года назад

Glad to see this amp. I have one and was curious to see the power output. Wouldn't mind seeing the 1500-1 from 2009-10 before the constant power series.

@charlespetersonii6989 4 года назад

May I ask why you dont like the constant power? I've never had one

@edud8452 4 года назад

Thats a beut Clark!🤣super rare and cool D been waiting for this one👍

@wal 4 года назад

Thanks brother 👌

@ehrenkrause9861 4 года назад

I did not know the power 1000 25 to life was a 5 channel amp. That REALLY cool. 😞 now I wish I bought it when I had the chance I would have got it for half the price.

@justposted3524 4 года назад

Happy Easter 🐣

@wal 4 года назад

Happy Easter!

@delvinchandler 4 года назад

I so wanted the 25 to life version, it was jl audio and rockford when I first got the car audio bug lol

@wal 4 года назад

Yeah boyeeeee!

@baileybasshead8762 4 года назад

Like a lightning 🌩bug 🐛 lol

@keevincharles9389 4 года назад

Nice video watching from Trinidad 🇹🇹 cool amp

@wal 4 года назад

Awesome, Thanks for watching and commenting!

@toyotafan1234 4 года назад

I really love how Rockford use to make amps. It looked like they actually cared about what’s inside as well as the outside. Not saying they don’t now but the old school stuff was just somehow better!

@kitcat2559 3 года назад

VU meters back when they where a thing everyone would like in there vehicle since they looked so darn cool

@scottieking9008 4 года назад

Found one in a local pawn shop 2 yrs ago for $150.00 added straight to my old school collection..

@scottiffanimccord1509 4 года назад

Way cool! Thanks Big D. Are you still running the Orion SPLX 3K on the 8s, as your daily setup? Love RF. I have a lot of Amps some still in boxes never opened, but you! oh man, where do you put all your amps, you have one of everything!

@ricardonoyola2309 3 года назад

You are a BASS ADICT BRO!!!!!😎😎😎😎😎

@danfuller06 3 года назад

I love the Memphis Belle amp a little more. True old school power

@wal 3 года назад

I had one of those, nice amps too

@chaseleim4773 4 года назад

2 of these and a 360.3 would make for a really nice old-school sq setup

@Chris_Wolfgram 4 года назад

I bought one of these from Sonic Electronix 12 years ago (grey market), for $498 brand new ! At that time, SE listed the MSRP at $1498. Beat the shit out of that thing for pretty much the entire 12 years. Finally started to have problems (which in retrospect, probably were not even coming from the amp) but I was waaay overdue for a separate bass and stereo amps anyway. So after 12 years of use, I sold it for $300 a couple months ago. I'm sure I could have gotten more.... but I had already gotten like $10,000 worth of use out of it :) lol Best value piece of stereo equipment I've ever bought. Granted, the new stuff is SO freaking strong, for so cheap. It was a great looking amp though, and the LED lights were more than just pretty. They were actually so useful, and completely visible from the drivers seat in my truck. I wish amp companies still used these.

@floridalottery3134 4 года назад

sick amp

@Roflcopter100 4 года назад

Love the videos. I saw on Facebook that you got ahold of the Dual XDCPA9BT stereo one day. Assuming you've used it due to you hating the touch volume, how is it for you? Was curious. Stay safe

@MoparStephen 4 года назад

The good old days of clean Class AB power!

@tatialo37 4 года назад

Cool amp!!! That'll look great in a 74 gremlin!!!

@JAYMAN07 2 года назад

I have one of these and can’t even use it. I have very limited space and this amp is huge.

@HifiVega 4 года назад

😱😱😱 Power 1000 triple threat!!

@wal 4 года назад

Yeah boyeeeeee!

@martyzuno4807 3 года назад

I envy your amp collection big d !

@wal 3 года назад

I have 2 or 3

@1-Six-dee 4 года назад

Oh baby an Amp dyno ty sir

@wal 4 года назад

Awe yeah!

@1-Six-dee 4 года назад

@@wal thank you sir u r a great service to this industry u r appreciated especially by me and Sublife Syndicate

@thomasolmstead8757 2 года назад

Big d I love your channel so much I watch it all the time like every day over and over I was wondering have you ever tested pro audio amps cuz I was wondering if they put out their actual rated power because some of them do and some of them don't and I was just wondering like the same thing with car audio if the home audio amps are true to the rated power

@wal 2 года назад

I’ve tested a few Pro Audio Amp Dyno Tests ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-s5_PegGVF9k.html

@miles514 2 года назад

I'm a sucker for rockford fosgate amps. This is an absolute beauty! Can you tedt the D'amore 660.5?

@HomeTheatre101 4 года назад

Heard you have alot of knowledge on amps and wattage and was wondering how I would go about setting the wattage on my Pioneer GM-DX871 1600 watt amp @1ohm to 600rms 1200 max. 15" DVC 2ohm running 1ohm load.

@timgarner9714 2 года назад

Dwiz lately all ido is watch your amp dynos .i studied up and did a pretty big stereo install in my truck everything is cool but I have 8 amplifiers and only use 3 . Why do so many of us love this stuff ?

@kenpatterson1670 4 года назад

I'm really surprised you don't have a heck of alot more Subscribers especially in our current situation 🤔

@wal 4 года назад

I appreciate it, channel is growing slow and steady, I’m cool with that

@bobdodge3171 4 года назад

How much more pwr you think it give without the other channels loaded... I really dont think it would be alot.... Maybe 20 watts

@timothygray7650 4 месяца назад

Great thing.

@datatech2000 4 года назад

Less than an hour left on EBAY for the Hifonics ISIS and Orion 250 HCCA Digital Reference

@psementalist 4 года назад

Bravo excellent good video nicely well done good job i call a successful test

@wal 4 года назад

Thanks brother 👌

@nathanielbolden5053 4 года назад

I want that 25 to life in my life!!!

@baileybasshead8762 4 года назад

That's the only 25 to life I want lol

@rdooski 4 года назад

The original silver big belle will always be the most sexy 5 channel imo. And its still one of the most powerful all these years later.

@cowboycandyvending1574 4 года назад

you need to do a review maybe possibly on the coustic 380

@jeffmorefield 4 года назад

Sweet!!

@wal 4 года назад

Awe yeah!

@robsorgdrager8477 4 года назад

Rockford Fosgate a/b amps have always sounded so good to me but they get soooo dang hot. Back when I had my focus I had to run a fan on my 501s cus the summers in Minnesota get hoooooooot and humid specially when the sun's up from 6:00 am to 9:30 pm ....but they sound so good.

@wal 4 года назад

Heatsink removing heat from components so it’s doing it’s job

@robsorgdrager8477 4 года назад

@@wal correct .

@minus3dbintheteens60 4 года назад

Yeah but when 1 corner of the amp is so hot you actually burn yourself on it, imagine the temps of the actual transistors. Worryingly, none of my Power T series amps (T2000bD + T8004) ever thermally shut down on me, so I always had to run a bunch of 80mm fans blowing air down into the groves just to keep them acceptably cool.

@robsorgdrager8477 4 года назад

@@minus3dbintheteens60 I bought a 501s off eBay and all the caps are dented in and the cover plate had the paint burn off....funny thing is it works flawlessly.

@nickfountain8420 4 года назад

Like to hear your input on what people call clean power. Are they just referring to class A/B style amps vs. class D style? This one has me a bit confused. Thanks in advance.

@lendersbagels01 3 года назад

Just came across your channel today. Great content! Are you in Williston VT?

@wal 3 года назад

No sir it’s my name, not location 😊

@dacasloy 2 года назад

It is gorgeous for sure I saw one in a audioexpress around 2007 I think it was only 1000 dollars though obviously I didn’t have that kind of money but I got a crossfire vr 400.1 on sale also layaway I didn’t have barely any money then that crossfire was nice