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Discover if a suspension fork transforms your gravel bike into the ultimate adventure machine or if it's an expensive myth.
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Embark on a deep dive into the world of cycling upgrades with our latest episode, where we explore the controversial yet potentially game-changing addition of suspension forks to gravel bikes. Learn about the installation challenges, cost considerations, and real-world performance of this upgrade. Is it the key to unlocking a smoother, more enjoyable ride, or just an unnecessary complication? Join us to find ou

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@EverythingsBeenDone
@EverythingsBeenDone 3 месяца назад
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@RocksOff72
@RocksOff72 3 месяца назад
30-40mm of travel for $845 plus 2lbs additional weight...? Makes me think 20mm of travel, 260 grams, and $190 for the Redshift Shockstop is the way to go if someone wants to add suspension.
@markianross
@markianross 3 месяца назад
Shockstop isn't technically suspension though - it's just a shock absorber as the front wheel isn't "suspended". The advantage of a suspension fork is that because the wheel moves up and down with the terrain it improves grip - you don't get that with a Shockstop stem.
@RocksOff72
@RocksOff72 3 месяца назад
@@markianross I understand your point. My feeling is, if you're going to this length to put a suspension fork on a gravel bike, you might as well just get some thinner tires on your HT mountain bike.
@markianross
@markianross 3 месяца назад
@@RocksOff72 I have gravel bikes and mountain bikes - the biggest difference with a gravel bike for me is the drop bars and ride position. So lighter / faster tyres on a mountain bike will still be a very different bike to a gravel bike with 40mm suspension.
@boatbikemike8571
@boatbikemike8571 3 месяца назад
I ran an Allsop suspension stem for a while. Gets the job done, doesn’t break the bank
@gur262
@gur262 3 месяца назад
​@@markianrossyou don't need the grip in the front do you?
@mogulmayhem
@mogulmayhem 3 месяца назад
no one films a bike ride better than Dustin. No one.
@EverythingsBeenDone
@EverythingsBeenDone 3 месяца назад
🥰
@eniojurko
@eniojurko 3 месяца назад
Agree!
@robindegu7294
@robindegu7294 2 месяца назад
i miss the mustachioed gravel sommelier dude
@hikesbikesbrews
@hikesbikesbrews 3 месяца назад
I would like to see a head-to-head comparison video on gravel suspension - suspension stem, fork and seatpost. Curious, which one works best and/or what purpose does each serve
@TheSpaceBrosShow
@TheSpaceBrosShow 3 месяца назад
@@Manetty6 modern ones work a lot better. I think I'd rather run Redshift on my bike than 3lb, 800$ suspension that needs routine maintenance
@millardjk
@millardjk 3 месяца назад
Three different fork systems to consider: traditional (like Dustin used in this video), Lauf Grit, and Hiride Sterra. Then compare to stem and/or seatpost (disclaimer: I run the redshift stem & seatpost)
@maximumschwa6993
@maximumschwa6993 3 месяца назад
Did he say Canyon-dale?
@EverythingsBeenDone
@EverythingsBeenDone 3 месяца назад
🤣😂 he did!
@RiseNShine681
@RiseNShine681 3 месяца назад
Don't get me wrong. I LOVE my gravel bike. "Capable" is the best word I can think of to describe it. However, with the addition of suspension forks, stems, and seat posts, I'm curious to know if others also feel like we are "reinventing the wheel". I mean, isn't that how the mountain bike was invented in the first place? Like a bunch of dudes brought their road bikes into the mountains and wanted to make the experience more comfortable? Lol idk just my $0.02
@MackBXIII
@MackBXIII 3 месяца назад
I feel like these kinds of upgrades turn an adventure gravel bike into adventure +. If your local terrain can make use of more suspension then by all means go for it. But regular gravel bikes will always have a place. Even with ALL the suspension, an adventure + bike will never be as comfy as an actual mountain bike. N+1
@beerenmusli8220
@beerenmusli8220 3 месяца назад
Don't tell them, or they will understand we are all humans :D
@verdi6092
@verdi6092 3 месяца назад
Yeah its a roadies deniability of accepting mtb.. 😅
@SteezeMcWilliams
@SteezeMcWilliams 3 месяца назад
At least a non sus gravel bike is aimed to be a fast multi terrain bike. Adding all that suspension onto it would make it slower but still not enough juice to handle harsher terrain so it’s stuck in a weird niche.
@hambonelouis
@hambonelouis 3 месяца назад
@@MackBXIIIFully rigid gravel bike will always be faster and will suffice. That being said, I only own mountain bikes 😂
@whirving
@whirving 3 месяца назад
So, gather around youngsters and hear my tale. I raced XC throughout the late 80s and the 90s. In that period front suspension was introduced and became regularly accepted. I was a late adapter, not because I didn't think it would work or any retrogrouch BS, but I was just a poor bike racer dude and I had spent all my money on my Yo Eddy and race fees (and beer?). First suspension was about 30mm, which is what my Yo was built to correct for. The first shocks were wiggly but the improvement over time (fatigue, chatter) and in clutch situations was worth it. Before the shock I excelled at climbing and very technical descents, but fast stuff...not so much. The shock changed that a bit, just enough, and I raced with one for 4 years or so? By then I had a shock with 40mm travel and I just decided to ride rigid because of the way it affected my handling. I did fine, definitely slower in some situations, but that bike...wow. I really like suspension, but sometimes I just want it to go away. Now I ride a rigid 29+ mtb and really love it. I'm slow, a little fat, but hey! Bikes are cool! (Also, the 90s Mt. bikes/gravel bikes thing is getting scary).
@EverythingsBeenDone
@EverythingsBeenDone 3 месяца назад
This story was better than my video! 🤜❤️🤛
@whirving
@whirving 3 месяца назад
Aw shucks...you're seriously my bike hero@@EverythingsBeenDone
@monochrome_linux
@monochrome_linux 3 месяца назад
I think i saw a vid very similar to this recently (A video by Trace Velo from 10 days ago). Same kinda gravel suspension fork with 30 or so mm travel but was from Ali express and was like £90. That would be a better option to try suspension on a gravel bike to see if the rider likes it or not, rather than spending $900 on the rockshock
@mellissanash7517
@mellissanash7517 3 месяца назад
Suntour makes one for like 300 quid too that my buddy at bike shop says is just as good.
@the6ig6adwolf
@the6ig6adwolf 3 месяца назад
As always, his name is Luke.
@lazypanda1493
@lazypanda1493 3 месяца назад
Did you say Canyondale? That totally put a smile on my face 😆
@xaviermelendez2639
@xaviermelendez2639 3 месяца назад
Yup, still some of the best content on the 'Tube. Kudos, DK, on another insight and fun sojourn into the *cornucopia*, errrrm, world of Gravel!!!!
@denim_joey
@denim_joey 2 месяца назад
Dude, love your humor, love the few videos I’ve seen so far, definitely had to subscribe.
@karelkuruc
@karelkuruc 3 месяца назад
I get myself Canyon Grizl CFSL7 las year and it was cycling changer for me. I totally abandon my 120mm full suspension all mountain bike and using just Grizl for everything... I even start to commute to work on bike daily on Grizl... Love your content. It's funny and on the point!
@briantecklenburg7631
@briantecklenburg7631 3 месяца назад
Lol. I love how gravel riders are slowly coming to the realization of 1990s mountainbikes.
@htonmusic
@htonmusic 3 месяца назад
i'd like a 90's mountain bike with warranty, 29 inch wheel size and disc brakes.
@greghart6310
@greghart6310 3 месяца назад
Exactly! Next they will realise how much easier flat bars make technical sections and finally that rear suspension saves your ass from getting utterly destroyed! Just get a proper off-road bike from the start folks, I promise life will be so much better
@chris_noswe
@chris_noswe 3 месяца назад
Except... My custom Trek 920 with 2.2" knobby tires and almost 20" wide handlebars is a lot more fun than my Kona Honzo MTB. Different strokes for di... you know what I'm saying
@smeghead666
@smeghead666 3 месяца назад
​@@greghart6310 Just rode my gravel bike alongside a "proper" offroad hard tail and shit was slooooooooooooooooooooow uphill, downhill, flat, road off road doesn't matter, just all around fecking slow and they were utterly knackered afterwards whilst this was my second such ride in as many days lol
@TheGoobsters
@TheGoobsters 3 месяца назад
​@@htonmusic epic hardtail is what you're looking for
@m1les7
@m1les7 3 месяца назад
Absolutely brilliant vid, what a beautiful place to ride, and a touch of Winston!❤🐾🐾 Forks look good too.
@elialexander-tanner5784
@elialexander-tanner5784 3 месяца назад
Thanks! I started watching this channel when you reviewed a Topstone Lefty and I'm super interested in suspension on gravel bikes.
@eMikeBike
@eMikeBike 3 месяца назад
Canyon vs Canyondale? I bought the Grizl CF SL 8 with suspension last year for my 63 birthday. 22.45 lbs, but my Rudy didn't come with a lockout, just two air ports. I love front suspension on my Gravelanche bikes!
@ringodeathstarr9795
@ringodeathstarr9795 3 месяца назад
Hey you are almost to 100k subs. Cheers man been watching for years. Keep cruzin
@EverythingsBeenDone
@EverythingsBeenDone 2 месяца назад
Thanks bud! Appreciate the support over the years.
@Destide
@Destide 3 месяца назад
Love the use of surface sound in audio mix
@Kim_Miller
@Kim_Miller 3 месяца назад
I've been watching your videos for a while now. When you tipped the water out of the shoe I thought, 'That's the freaky kind of moment that I watch out for.' Funnily enough that one shot was enough for me to subscribe at last. 😀
@JorisBokkerink
@JorisBokkerink Месяц назад
Love the way your video looks and the trail you rode was wonderfull
@emmber19
@emmber19 3 месяца назад
SR Sun tour has a way more affordable fork. It's heavier sure but still an air fork and a great way to dip your toes in to see if you want to do suspension on your gravel bike.
@JayDubster
@JayDubster 3 месяца назад
Great content Dustin, think I'd have to go with the suspension stem tbh for all the added weight and faff, but so glad you've done a proper useful review of the fork. Niiiiiiice :)
@86309
@86309 3 месяца назад
Lauf RULES in the Gravel Sus fork. Loved the video, hilarious clips. Liked and subscribed. Can you talk about your Rene Herse tires? were those 44 Manastach ?
@richcole3931
@richcole3931 3 месяца назад
love your vids mister!
@Simon-unterwegs
@Simon-unterwegs 3 месяца назад
I'm riding a YT Szepter Core 4 which has the 40 mm lockable suspension fork and for me it was a real game changer. Main advantage for me is how much it reduces little bumps on fire roads, etc. which will get you tired a lot later than without fork. Second thing I noticed is how it gives me way more confidence to venture into gnarlier single trails that I wouldn't ride without suspension. It simply adds a lot of fun for me.
@DaveCM
@DaveCM 3 месяца назад
I came so very close to buying that bike. I ended up getting a Cannondale SuperSix CX. It came down between those two.
@Simon-unterwegs
@Simon-unterwegs 3 месяца назад
@@DaveCM I have a CAAD13, so I wanted something more leaning into the MTB side of gravel. The Szepter rides a bit like a hard tail on steroids. But I bet the Supersix CXis a beast, too.
@mellissanash7517
@mellissanash7517 3 месяца назад
Dustin should review that bike!
@coreyreeder3549
@coreyreeder3549 2 месяца назад
This is the right argument. More fun, comfort, and confidence.
@peterknight7880
@peterknight7880 3 месяца назад
TECH NOTE: The Rockshox Rudy brake mount is the same as a 140mm REAR flat mount, but configured for a 160mm disc. This means if you want to upgrade to a 180mm rotor, you need a 140-160mm REAR flat mount caliper adapter. Don't ask me how I know that; but on an unrelated topic, if anyone wants any kind of obscure flat mount adapter in box-fresh condition, drop me a line.
@TheGoobsters
@TheGoobsters 3 месяца назад
That's because it uses 34mm spaced thru-holes instead of the retrofitted 74mm spaced threaded holes that came from post mount. it's the way to go in my opinion lots of steel forks do this, as well as the Scott addict carbon forks, among others im sure. One would assume it is much stronger.
@naromsky
@naromsky Месяц назад
So, the SM-MA-R160 would accommodate the 180mm rotor?
@peterknight7880
@peterknight7880 Месяц назад
@@naromsky Correct. That's what I used.
@naromsky
@naromsky Месяц назад
Man, thanks. Now I can tell people "don't ask me how I know".
@mtnbikerJoe
@mtnbikerJoe 3 месяца назад
Love the folks at Cyclepath! Got a Pivot Shuttle from them recently.
@johnconarty3762
@johnconarty3762 3 месяца назад
So I did something similar to this recently, but I took a hardtail Giant XTC and had the LBS put on drop bars and wireless shifting. I had already slapped on some tubeless gravel tires the previous year. With 100mm of suspension it is a blast going down and the lock out makes it work pretty well on the pavement and smooths ups as well.
@JoeCincotta307
@JoeCincotta307 3 месяца назад
DK, have you tried the Redshift ShockStop suspension stem? I swear by it on my Rondo Ruut CF2 gravel rig. Super easy to install
@yortdelpuente9574
@yortdelpuente9574 2 месяца назад
Dustin, another great video 🤓👍 I’ve been doing the same modification experiments to my gravel bike and going onto more technical single track terrain to compare differences with a rigid fork. Can you do another video of your Canyon setup on one of your more MTBy single track routes and give us your thoughts?
@danielmaclellan2117
@danielmaclellan2117 2 месяца назад
I think your videos are so professional, funny (who is going to go with 30mm vs. 40mm?, water in the sneaker). Really you deserve so much accolades as I learn, enjoy as a fellow bicycle geek! Thank you! Wish I could ride with you!
@austienbryandemesa5841
@austienbryandemesa5841 3 месяца назад
this channel has been the sweet spot between trace velo and berm peak, subscribed 😂
@jeffirvine8041
@jeffirvine8041 2 месяца назад
Turns out I hadn't seen this video, it's a great one as always. Great meeting you at Ladds thanks for the tips!
@tevemullins8156
@tevemullins8156 3 месяца назад
That gravel monster 👿 is dope‼️ sounds comfy too.
@jacchapman8065
@jacchapman8065 3 месяца назад
Can we get a full review of the forge and bond wheels?
@petebw
@petebw 3 месяца назад
How does this compare to the Specialized Headshock? I have the latter on my Creo 2 and honestly you notice not having it more than when you do, but the forks are an interesting different approach..
@Matahalii
@Matahalii 3 месяца назад
As my own "Gravel Bike" is actually a E-MTB upgraded with Kanto Bars, it always had a 100mm suspension fork which I set up a little stiffer than I would for a real MTB. Looks weird but I love it!
@thuggooch1776
@thuggooch1776 3 месяца назад
What about trying out a fatbike for a nice long graveleske adventure? It might just blow your mind! Thank you for sharing as usual I loved it!
@jitterspec
@jitterspec 2 месяца назад
Owner of lauf fork. Unique solution that gets the travel with minimal weight penalty. It works well and simplifies the complexity of modern suspension forks.
@GaryBeck-wn3dy
@GaryBeck-wn3dy 3 месяца назад
I converted a Trek Excalibur 29er hardtail to a “gravel” bike. Different wheelset (that I already owned) and “skinny” tires. Reasonably light and good MTB 100mm suspension forks. Cheaper for me than adding $845 gravel forks. For now I kept flat handlebars, but I have several drop bars lying around if I choose to covert. (I have several bikes and lots of extra parts and like DIY (until I don’t;).)
@jago7735
@jago7735 3 месяца назад
I have seen your Cannondale Topstone Lefty 2 video, I love it, I owe the bike and I am very happy with it. Have you ridden th Specialized Diverge with the Future Shock?
@vincedavis5326
@vincedavis5326 3 месяца назад
I recently added a dropper post to my Giant Revolt. I love the post that came on the bike, but wanted the dropper so I could fit my bike inside the back of my truck. The dropper post has suspension built in, looks like 40ish mm of travel. This added maybe 300 (??) grams. I’m an old guy. The travel in the dropper post is a total game changer for both gravel and road. Totally worth the weight increase.
@EveryTongue
@EveryTongue 3 месяца назад
Dustin is one of my favorite cyclepaths!
@mattischuldt3434
@mattischuldt3434 3 месяца назад
This dude is Casey Neistat but for bikes.
@carlosortegon1239
@carlosortegon1239 3 месяца назад
Would like to hear your take on Rudy 40 vs Taper cast with 50mm of travel.
@mellissanash7517
@mellissanash7517 3 месяца назад
Another classic vid. Do you still have your Cutthroat? I ask because I think it be interesting to see which does more, suspension gravel fork like this Rudy or stock Cutthroat with its wider tires for gravel. Essentially 2.35 tires vs 50mm of travel for gravel.
@rcromehobbies9242
@rcromehobbies9242 3 месяца назад
A few years ago i was looking for a fun playful gravel bike but then i realize i actually wanted a fast rolling mountain bike. I kept searching then i found a 2012 Rocky Mountain Whistler and it checked all the boxes. It's basically a Flat Bar gravel bike with 60mm SrSuntour Fork which weighs 5 pounds! Luckily i Found a 2012 Rockshox Reba. Its the Lightest Suspension Fork at that time at 3lbs!
@bonkasaurus_wrecks
@bonkasaurus_wrecks 3 месяца назад
I've been riding 80 - 100mm suspension on my converted gravel bikes for about 4 years now and telling anyone who will listen the benefits of it! The caveat is "real" suspension, though, with rebound and compression adjustments, not just bouncy, gimmicky bits. Being able to ride faster, for longer, while using less energy doesn't seem to have a downside. But, the road is the last place you'll find me and it seems most gravel bikes are 80/20 road/dirt oriented.
@NunoLima1337
@NunoLima1337 3 месяца назад
So why would anyone choose not to keep the $845 and adjust a 100mm travel suspension to be less bouncy? I guess my hybrid bike is quite close to this, only at a heavier weight :)
@richardhowarth4230
@richardhowarth4230 3 месяца назад
So have you fitted a regular mountain bike suspension fork?
@owenfidler2115
@owenfidler2115 2 месяца назад
What fork did you use? And what did it do to handling? I'd guess that the offset/trail would be huge compared to the original fork, did the front end get super floppy?
@bonkasaurus_wrecks
@bonkasaurus_wrecks 2 месяца назад
@@owenfidler2115 I used a RockShox Reba. The frames I've used were originally specced with a suspension fork, so the geometry was not compromised.
@owenfidler2115
@owenfidler2115 2 месяца назад
​@@bonkasaurus_wrecks Ah thanks mate 👍
@Milessongs
@Milessongs 3 месяца назад
Another absolutely entertaining and fact-filled dive into a quandary I've been pondering for a while. Thanks for tackling this important question so publicly. So glad I subscribed. #bikeshopsrule
@erlendsteren9466
@erlendsteren9466 3 месяца назад
Hello, I ve been riding Suspended Cannondale Topstone Lefty for 3000 km. I am happy!
@davidhubert37
@davidhubert37 3 месяца назад
Love the @Ornot sticker on your bike!
@DoubleOhRacing
@DoubleOhRacing 3 месяца назад
I bought the Cannondale Topstone Carbon Lefty 2 based on his review. A gravel bike with a bit of suspension. It has been a blast. Go anywhere bike.
@jago7735
@jago7735 3 месяца назад
I have the Lefty 2 :) I changed the wheelset, the WTB KOM wheels are very bad, so I had custom-made carbon wheels with Newmen rims (a German brand from Cube bikes) with DT Swiss 240 hubs, yes, they make a lefty hub, now it rides fantastic. Oh yes, the cockpit I changed too, a Ritchey WCS ergomax in 42cm (from the 44cm the bike comes from) and a Zipp stem in 8cm (from the 9cm the bike in L came with). I might change the bike to 2x, a 48/31 chainring and a 11-36 cassette, the bike comes anyway with the left lever for that, to make it 2x. Cheers!
@stevev7814
@stevev7814 3 месяца назад
Amazing route. Totally jealous
@thelifeofjessejames
@thelifeofjessejames 3 месяца назад
I got my Grizl second hand with the 30mm Rudy already on it. It’s incredibly capable for a gravel bike. Here in the PNW “gravel” is more like mtb in other places so I knew I wanted something burly and oh boy did I get it!
@jamesworley2674
@jamesworley2674 3 месяца назад
Did I miss it but what part did you use for the upper bearing?
@cadriver2570
@cadriver2570 3 месяца назад
How’s the Rudy vs Futureshock for comfort?
@daisydela
@daisydela 3 месяца назад
I’m a believer in them. For people who ride light singletrack on their gravel bikes. Or live in an area with really washboarded roads. This fork helps so much with fatigue. The weight is a bummer. But like a dropper post, the este weight is worth it to me to ride faster, safer, and gave more fun.
@edw8605
@edw8605 3 месяца назад
I have upgraded to 30mm Rudy on my NP Digger and it is epic on long fast rocky descents at speed means your eyes aren’t shaken out your head! 🤪 Save the long travel for the bike parks 😊
@TheLucateli
@TheLucateli 3 месяца назад
Please Dustin, tell me which parts I have to buy. Been wanting to do the same thing for loooong time
@michaelmechex
@michaelmechex 3 месяца назад
That suspension fork materializes everything I'm trying to avoid on my gravel bike. The weight, the maintenance and my sprint out of the saddle feeling like running in quicksand. Wider tires will give you all of those benefits with almost none of those compromises.
@WhaJMc
@WhaJMc 3 месяца назад
I sold my gravel bike because I preferred my full sus XC bike off road. Big mistake as I didn't really think about riding on road, to the trails. Got a new Specialized Roubaix about a week ago and so far have been really impressed with the Future Shock suspension on the road. Will be putting some gravel tyres on it next weekend and trying it on the trails.
@helidude3502
@helidude3502 Месяц назад
That background music reminds me of Starvin’ Marvin flying the airplane on Southpark 😁
@manchetajr
@manchetajr 3 месяца назад
So what did your mechanic do about the 1 1/4 steerer tube? I’ve been wanting to add the rockshox Rudy to my canyon grail and I had the same problem. I couldn’t figure it out and just went with the redshift suspension stem instead.
@Peaceman5790
@Peaceman5790 3 месяца назад
I think a suspension fork has its place for “gravel” but its pretty niche. FWIW I’ve been running an older short (395mm) reach (pre long low & slack) Epic hardtail with drop bars, a Fox 32 SC fork with travel reduced to 80mm to keep the front end a bit lower than stock, an Easton AX dropper & Race King tyres. It comes in at 10 kilos (22lbs) and I find it’s a really fun bike. It’s great for long mixed rides with flowy single track, rough gravel and the occasional paved road connector as long as your not concerned with absolute speed. More of an N+1 than a quiver killer though. I just built it up ‘cause I had the parts and thought it would be fun. Not disappointed 😎
@TheGoobsters
@TheGoobsters 3 месяца назад
Ideal sounding bike for me: cozy shredding. Nice setup man
@Peaceman5790
@Peaceman5790 3 месяца назад
Thanks! I think the key is if you can find a frame with a shorter reach than you would usually want on a flatbar bike so you dont have to run a crazy short stem. @@TheGoobsters
@rolfaalto
@rolfaalto 2 месяца назад
Done this the cheap way -- used 2000s rockshox SID race titanium cost and weighs very little, works great! You need a 1 1/8" straight steerer though.
@crunchysteve
@crunchysteve 2 месяца назад
In Jan Heine's book, "The All-Roads Bike Revolution" he details how supple and wide tyres are the primary suspension. The contact patch of a supple tyre responds faster than any suspension fork. What a fork is for is the really hard knocks like you get on gnarly singletrack. So, while a fork is great value for those who hunt gnarl, if you're a gravel spinner only, put your cash into tubless with super supple casings (and sealant, supple has a slightly higher puncture risk. Ride low PSI to fly 😀
@hansschotterradler3772
@hansschotterradler3772 3 месяца назад
Not for me since I just got myself an XC bike with 100 mm fork for the rougher stuff, total weight is 24 LBS. I guess the 30mm changes the geometry of the bike by a lesser amount??
@catladyrai
@catladyrai 2 месяца назад
Are those prescription sunglasses from Oakley? I'm looking for something like that. What model is it?
@ianmagnuson1777
@ianmagnuson1777 Месяц назад
What camera do you use to film your rides?
@flhe3702
@flhe3702 2 месяца назад
I had a Grizl with this fork and found it too heavy together with the aluminum frame (and the DT Swiss 2kg wheels which you changed). I could not get spare parts and servicing for the fork where I live maybe because it’s also a niche product. Now I’m riding a Lauf Seigla. Maybe you can try that in one of your videos…but get the race transmission version.
@user-vd1xw8xy8q
@user-vd1xw8xy8q 3 месяца назад
How do your adids shoes hold up? Need a new pair of cycling (mostly gravel) shoes...
@fois8225
@fois8225 Месяц назад
Nice Black Rainbows t-shirt!😉
@jscalabre
@jscalabre 2 месяца назад
What route is this? Looks awesome
@teatime19
@teatime19 3 месяца назад
Great video now you need to test and compare the Ali express gravel fork £85 UK looks alright for the money.
@roryveronda9933
@roryveronda9933 3 месяца назад
How about that fork versus your Ibis Dv9 HT?
@orlyg1521
@orlyg1521 Месяц назад
do you have a link to this route?
@al_hongo
@al_hongo 3 месяца назад
Off topic: as a human with imperfect vision but a keen eye for design, have you considered producing a perspective video on the best prescription eyewear for cyclists? It’s something I keep thinking about, but the sparse and non-standardized options have me either running my daily specs or contacts with normal sunnies. What’s better: traditional-but oversize lenses (eg aviators, Gucci, etc), or sporty “shield” frames with prescription inserts?
@joramvandervorst7715
@joramvandervorst7715 2 месяца назад
Ever reviewed a Lauff fork? Curious what you think of it...
@Chaddledee
@Chaddledee 3 месяца назад
Suspension seatpost and stem is best of both worlds. Little-to-no energy losses because the suspension isn't between the wheel and the drivetrain. Enough travel for gravel. Most of the weight is still on the rider side of the suspension - though obviously not as extreme as having the suspension on the fork, so works best with as light a bike as possible (another excuse to be a weenie!).
@damonclegg7593
@damonclegg7593 3 месяца назад
Do you have a link to this route or a route name? It looks magnificent. 🎉
@TheBikeSauce
@TheBikeSauce 3 месяца назад
These thumbs are getting RIDICULOUS! 🔥🔥🔥
@TheNeelonRokk
@TheNeelonRokk 2 месяца назад
Rust on the chain? Well, time for a new bike I guess. 🤣
@reidh
@reidh 3 месяца назад
My next upgrade is new wheels. Right after the generic maintenance stuff ahaha. After that, swapping bars to something more compliant sounds interesting? Not really interested in a suspension fork for some reason? Probably because I ride roads too much
@dylandaviesdiptych
@dylandaviesdiptych 2 месяца назад
which is better for gravel; suspension fork or suspension stem?
@CameronMallory
@CameronMallory 3 месяца назад
Hey Dustin, which gore gloves are those?
@petrd1104
@petrd1104 Месяц назад
I went even further and have custom built so called monstercross (MTB with dropbars). And it's the best bike I ever had. Easy on roads with ability of whatever you ask for in rough terrain. From "ultra racing" point of view (you don't chose the road, but accepts what ever comes to you) these bikes makes absolut sens. But I agree, its not for everyone.
@dougturner2408
@dougturner2408 Месяц назад
Is that Mt. Hood in the background? on the dry side maybe near Hood River?
@ZenEndurance
@ZenEndurance 3 месяца назад
My first gravel bike had an old suspension fork on it and it was WAY better and faster than my fancy new rigid bike I upgraded to. I put a suspension stem on my new bike and it helps, but nothing makes a gravel bike ride better than a suspension fork. People don’t need a crazy expensive one. A crappy cheap one is still great because it doesn’t have to the crazy work a mountain bike fork does. Even just 30mm of crappy front suspension is worlds better than none at all.
@illyadmark3223
@illyadmark3223 3 месяца назад
Do you have a GPS track for that ride? I'd love to come down and give it a try.
@jrnehoc
@jrnehoc 3 месяца назад
Makes me think of that V4 Stiggy that you demo’ed, and that is at the top of my N+1 list
@troydelbridge4878
@troydelbridge4878 2 месяца назад
I can confirm that the v4 ‘Stiggysaurus’ both with and without the suspension fork is the real ‘big wave gun’ of gravel.
@JimPudar
@JimPudar Месяц назад
Did you not get the specific one from Canyon that has the correct tube size?
@HD46409
@HD46409 3 месяца назад
Suspension is totally worth it. The Lauf fork is a great option if you want something lighter. You really don't need damping with 30mm of travel and zero maintenance is a huge plus.
@chris_noswe
@chris_noswe 3 месяца назад
Great video Justin. And great closing thoughts as well. I think I'm going to keep on not getting one for now, as I'm in that category of people who's full of "piss and vinegar", but also; I think I wanted an excuse to spend more money :')
@andrifsig
@andrifsig 3 месяца назад
Get a Lauf fork. Zero maintenance and lighter than a traditional suspension fork. I think it ofers up to 30mm of travel and is designed for smoothing out the vibrations rather than tackling jumps. I ride a Lauf Seigla and its a dream to ride on gravel.
@joshuahunt1210
@joshuahunt1210 3 месяца назад
Just to make a note, there is a big difference between the aluminum grizl and the carbon grizl in ride feel. I "purchased" an aluminum and a carbon back to back and after less than a quarter mile test ride I **immediately** ditched the aluminum for the carbon bike and filled out a return RMA. The ride feel is that massive. No hesitation, not gimmick. It's real. The aluminum feels like you're riding on a stone. If you're buying the aluminum Grizl, not only are you taking a serious weight penalty (24lbs vs 19lbs) but you're sacrificing ride quality. And then on top of it you slam a front suspension on it? Nope. Just shell out for the carbon bike and a S15 VCLS seatpost and you'll be happy as a clam. My carbon Grizl did NOT come with the VCLS seatpost so that ride feel test I did was back to back with stiff seatposts. I later added the VCLS and it was like riding on a cloud. 2,500 miles later and I still love my *carbon* Grizl.
@dongkapuyawn5107
@dongkapuyawn5107 2 месяца назад
oooh boy, I'm definitely doing that, swap to a suspension fork on my XC..or just add a bar-end to make it into a gb lol
@scooter32145
@scooter32145 3 месяца назад
I'm all about my 2nd gravel bike having suspension. N+1 and all that!
@topbanana4464
@topbanana4464 3 месяца назад
For a bit of a different take on a suspension fork, have a look at the Lauf Cycles suspension fork. No maintenance required.
@derekbowen8596
@derekbowen8596 3 месяца назад
I just purchased a Lauf Seigla Race Transmission with the Grit Fork. Loving it so far, it's a go almost anywhere bike which is good for my area. Was doing mostly road riding and wanted more options for trails and gravel.
@markianross
@markianross 3 месяца назад
I went with the 30mm because the 40mm would have had too big an effect on the geometry. 30mm was already pushing it a bit.
@krinkko381
@krinkko381 2 месяца назад
Dustin put the red shift seat post on this bike next :D
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