@@Albatross0913 really? When playing ESO, Barbas is trying to steal Vivec's power, and according to the video, the sword is crafted after Vivec is gone :P
Necrosis the Dremora Warlord I prefer the old nords. 2nd era level shit. fucking zombie werewolves? we'll kill them with such ferocity that we literally dragged one back in their hole as it's running away to kill the last before crawling out
+Necrosis the Dremora Warlord And aside from that the Argonians never really achieved anything. I mean, sure, they attacked the weakend Morrowind after the Red Mountain erupted and managed to take Almalexia (the city, not the dead half-godess) but the Dunmer still managed to push them back I like Argonians but...they do kind of suck lorewise xS
+Anon Legion Speaking of Eras, I wish there was Weapons from different Eras. Imagine that. Elder Scrolls 6, it has 4th, 3rd, 2nd, and 1st Era Weapons. Same Damage for the 4th and 3rd Eras, and take the same amount of Supplies to make, and the 2nd and 1st Eras deal less Damage, and are a little Dark, because... They're Ancient. 3rd Era will be less Dark, and Dusty, because they're Ancient. The Ancient Weapons won't look Old, but really Green, because you made them. Oh, yeah, fuck, 2nd and 1st Eras deal a little less Damage, and take less Supplies to make
Most beautiful pictures!!! I really enjoyed the lore. I really wish there was a quest or story going on in Skyrim involving the tree that we, as players, got to interact with.
Having actually read the books, I can state: 1) The trees on Umbriel aren't evil. 2) They were first planted on Umbriel against their will to supply the city with all sorts of food (because they can recreate everything they taste) 3) Their main desire is to return to the plane of Oblivion they came from, which they do at the end of the second book. Now this one here is almost certainly stuck, but I doubt it harbors malicious intend. I think it just wants to go home. It might be weeping, knowing it might never return home.
It's also possible that the tree is dormant because of the lack of communication with it's relatives. Would answer why the tree is called the _sleeping_ tree
If we remove the lore and skyrim aspects of this video it's a video of a very paranoid person who thinks tree's are plotting something. Also "What is this tree planning" made me laugh even with context.
Nor do you hear about an interdimensional tree that fell from a soul fueled city of genocide that can control minds and is part of a hive mind of other genocidal trees
Will make for the most boring game ever: you sit still and wait for people to stumble upon you and drink your juice. Then they go on their merry way, kill Alduin, save the world.. and you are like "wowies, I've grown a new branch and a couple of leaves!"
@@dimatadore Free will isn't real. I'd rather be controlled by a friend who wishes me well than the billions of uncaring interactions between genes and environment that happens every day
I wonder who the first person to drink from it was. Who walked up to this tree, watched it's purple creepiness and thought "I'm gonna drink whatever comes out of this thing."
SixWingedAngel skyrim players are known to eat the weirdest things in nirn just to learn it's alchemical properties. Example: giant toe, spider eggs, random plant on the ground, a human heart, a demon heart and much more. So, a simple tree sap is not as bad compared to the others.
According to one of the books cited in this video, when the Hist recalled the Argonians during the Oblivion crisis, "The Argonians were altered by the Hist in order to combat the Daedra, becoming faster, stronger, and able to endure harsher punishment." If the Hist wanted to overthrow Tamriel, they could do a pretty efficient job of it already.
I thought that too. I don't think the Hist are out for genocide of the other races. I think they just want to keep what is theirs. Blackmarsh. That's why the Argonians didn't help the other races against the daedra crisis or against the Thalmor. They care about Blackmarsh and it's native inhabitants only. Which is a shame really. The Dunmer, Imperials, Nords, Bretons, Orcs and Redguards could all do with allying with each other and the Argonians to put an end to the Aldmeri Dominon and the Thalmor itself.
The genocidal tendency is probably a byproduct of the alteration making them more aggressive and murderous (the trees should probably have released a patch or something)
I have two rules in The Elder Scrolls. Don't trust anything from Oblivion and Don't Eat anything from Black Marsh. So if this is a Hist Tree from on of the planes of Oblivion........ I'm with the dwemer on that one too.
"Get me, Cyrodiil? When will you wake up and realize what really happen to the Dwarves?" - R'leyt-harhr, Khajiit, Tender to the Mane, "Where Were You When the Dragon Broke?" This is one of the few beings that knows what really happen to the Dwarves.
Y'know... maybe it is. Maybe it doesn't care about the whole genocidal stuff and just mind controlled these giants to fend off any Hist-controlled Argonians trying to destroy it.
Nicklas VEVA "A floating city!? Ha, how ridiculous!" *a dragon flies in and kills thirty guards* "Who could believe something so stupid?!" *a giant slaps a talking cat person into low orbit*
@@user_name_redacted That is a very fair point and I didn't even think about that (I always forget about ferns). Clearly you are the more powerful biomancer.
@@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149 Man, Ferns are so weird. They're like the first land plant to exist so they're completely different from most everything else.
Gildergreen: Weak ass tree, literally dies and has to be revived with some weird ritual Hist: Can control the minds of an entire race and invaded the oblivion gates of the prince of destruction.
ecksdee23 imagine being a neighbor and just hearing him scream this at the top of his lungs. Margaret: The Jones boy is screaming about trees. Bob: God damn it.
Elder Scrolls games are packed with the stuff. Have been since the 90s. Dark Souls may be goot at conveying environmental narrative, but it didn't originate the concept.
@@ingonyama70 dark souls never claimed that...its also possible environmental lore in games dates back before elder scrolls even, like with baldurs gate and other d&d offshoots
Have you read the book The Infernal City? Anything caught in the Shadow of the City dies. Plants. People. Souls lost, not in any known place. Its pretty fucking good ESO lore and story
Issac: "The Necromorphs are the most dangerous threat to life!" Doom Guy: "That's nothing. Let me tell you about space demons and hell!" Master Chief: "Psssh! I am the space demon, let me tell you about the Flood" *Dragonborn takes a seat* Dragonborn: "A threat that only threatens one plane of existence? How about I tell you about a tree..."
You know who else was drinking the sap of weird trees? The writers for this franchise. I mean... What is all this? Who got so high in that office that they wrote about interdimensional alien trees!?
People who actually wanted to be creative and innovative with their fantasy lore. I understand that that's a foreign concept today, but it wasn't always so.
Well, at least they are creative witrh their staff and not the 190708789732. Version of Lord of the rings and nordic mythology like 90% of fantasy lore.
I usually hate the meme of "wow this person is actually creative and imaginative they must be on DRUGS! xD" but Michael Kirkbride wrote a lot of lore on acid trips
Easily the most lore involved video I've made. Hopefully I was able to make sense of it, and hopefully you enjoy it :) Also, all of the portrait art used is from The Elder Scrolls Legends. Totally evil tree btw
maybe it's a hist tree that i sleeping and when it wakes up everyone who consumed it's sap will either transform into trees or kill everything in sight
or since the tree comes from a place that came from clavicus' plane of oblivion maybe it will give you a deal like "plant it's seed over near riften and you'll get a reward"
I think you're confusing two different encounters. The non-hostile fellows who try to sell you skooma will also have sleeping tree sap, but I don't think the hostile encounters do. Those guys are simply skooma-heads.
If I learned anything from these fantasy universes is that if something is similar to something else but is a different color its more dangerous. If its purple/blue than its the boss. I say this because Purple and Indigo are the colors of royalty as in only those of nobility or high amounts of wealth used to wear those colors. Notice how none of the peasants wear purple in this universe. This thing is probably the boss tree that all the other Hists follow. Look at it like this. The regular Hist control the Argonians. But they can't control the races of Mer and Man because their sap will kill you in large enough doses. This sap doesn't. Instead it revitalizes you and increases your abilities for a time. Kind of like the reason the Argonians were able to dominate the Daedra. They were physically enhanced by the Hist sap. So this might be the tree to tie their plans together for total domination of Tamriel and they are simply waiting for it to "wake up".
Well, when you think about it, Skyrim has a pretty huge collection of weird-as-shit things going on, all at the exact same time. A civil war, dragons returning, reachmen going bonkers, vampires running all over the place and last, but not least. A rogue dragonborn on Solstheim trying to conquer tamriel, and a hist tree from oblivion... It's no wonder that the divines sent a Dragonborn/Shezarrine combo to bring back order. And yes, it's basically confirmed that the Dragonborn is also a Shezarrine (incarnation/aspect of the God Shor, also known as Lorkhan), not only is the dragonborn told that they have a place in Sovngarde (Shor's hall), but they can actually sit on Shor's Throne. And to add more to that, a ghost in old Hroldan keeps telling the dragonborn that they are in fact someone called "Hjalti Early-Beard". And who was "Hjalti Early-Beard"? -That's right, a mortal incarnation of Lorkhan, a shezarrine. As scary as the situation of Skyrim is, how bad is the situation in Tamriel going to get in order for Akatosh to create a being that is basically a combination of his power and the power of his oldest enemy? I mean, the Dragonborn doesn't seem all that powerful in-game (obviously, you have to play as them), but it's basically like having a Daedric Prince just walking around on Nirn.
true but this dragonborn has done his part and now seeks to transcend the divines to even greater power the divines saw many problems so they sent me if they sent me instead of doing something themselves or sending more than just me than obviously i am greater than them all CHIM and amaranth incoming lol
My headcanon is that protagonists of every major TES game are incarnations of Lorkhan, his effort to save his beloved Nirn. And all of those incarnations ARE powerful and mysterious: - each one of them enters the world in a body of some random mortal useless criminal - turn themselves to a powerful Mr. Strong McMagicman, learning what usually takes people years or even centuries in like a month or two - solve multiple major events - disappear completely, not even leaving much note of themselves in history, as if the events solved themselves. If anything, there sure is some divine shenanigans going on, and I hope my theory will prove true
I don’t know which elder scrolls protagonist has a more insane god status, the champion of cyrodill aka, sheogorath 2.0 or the dovahkiin, as you just described lol
@@anukranan well, i mean rorikstead has one daedric prince. markarth has namira's cannibals, a house possessed by molag bal, one reviled aedra (dibella), the forsworn, a thalmor infestation, and a legion of falmar biding their time beneath the town.
All of that reminds me of H. P. Lovecrafts short story "the colour out of space" And damn, there are a lot of Lovecraft references/inspirations in Bethesda games.
I see you are a fellow man of culture... 👍 Yeah, thing falls from the sky, ‘poisons’ the water supply, and effects anyone who drinks it. The unnatural sort of desiccated, pale trees that glow at night. And as a nice final touch, (thought it was just my imagination at first) if you watch closely in the video, the tree branches will randomly... move... it’s actually pretty creepy... :/ Well, creepy by tree standards, at least- which isn’t saying much, as trees tend to be fairly innocuous, but still... lol.. Very cool. I know there’s that ‘Innsmouth’ village in Oblivion with the ‘Deep Ones’ and fish people, and I’ve heard a bit about the Dunwich thing in Fallout, but that’s all that comes to mind. Are there any others I’m missing?
@@KyleJordanGaming Quiet a few. FO3 had also a mission in the dlc where you had to collect the nekronomikon. Also there is a reference to pickman's model in FO4. And the missions with the cabot family are heavily inspired by the nameless city and a shadow out of time. Regarding to elder scrolls we have a lot of gods or other deities that fit very well in the concept of cosmic horror (hemaeus mora and the other daedra, waters of oblivion, the ideal masters etc. etc.. ). Also the entire universe of ES is dreamed by a sleeping godhead. Many think it's a metaphor for the player himself but it really gives me lovecraftian vibes. (especially due to bloodborne)
@@KyleJordanGaming There is also the whole Dunwich business in fallout 4, a name I am sure is instantly recognisable. There is a video on it by epicnate
i got halo vibes. "Arbiter, your task is to secure the ministry of truth being held by those heretic scum! first you must locate the sacred icon to open the gates to the divine beyond, then kill those heretics who locked themselves within our holy sanctum! we shall burn a path into the divine beyond and start the great jouney!" - truth probably
_Yo man I have allll the answers to the tree man... Its like I drank some of it and I could see like Talos and the gods dude and they told me like I should preach about them and stuff.... You should drink it to bruh it's awesome... Far out man_
Nothing. Hey man don't drink that tree shit it like controls your brain and stuff, how about I send u few tabs of acid or a joint bro anythings better than those evil mind controlling tree
if the trees are smart enough to see the oblivion crisis coming I would listen to them. Drinking the sap is a choice, the trees aren't forcing it on the argonians or any other individual. it may be possible that the genocidal tendencies came from the argonians themselves. The trees may have just enabled them to carry out their plans.
@@hazeltree7738 If we're following the original comment's point, then we'd have to assume that the parents are the ones wanting their child to drink the liquid, but yeah, no way to actually prove either theories Although I would assume the trees aren't exactly planning evil things, simply commanding people in a more "primal" way
To be fair everyone should have seen it coming 1) Dagon broke the agreement with the tribunal on at least one other occasion as have other princes 2) the tribunal were always going to die at some point. They were never real gods. And that would release the daedric princes from the agreement
I don't know if the sleeping tree will wake up and suck everyone's souls out, making a zombie army of sap addicts or whatever, but I want to lop off a branch and make a staff out of it.
The Sleeping Staff: makes anyone who gets hit by it fall asleep immediately.* ** (*has to be headshot and has to be swung really hard to work.) (**totally magic, all sales final.)
Well, here's a song I've heard before: "Let's play with magic we don't understand! It will make us incredibly powerful!" and the Elder Scrolls universe doesn't have a Dorian Pavus to tell them what a terrible idea that is, either. smh.
It's easy to miss unless you happen to cross that exact spot on your way to a quest. The giant camp parked right next to it keeps you from noticing it from any distance. I've always thought that the dev team missed a small opportunity with Ysolda. When you talk to her in Whiterun, she should mention the tree to you since her last "errand boy" never returned with the promised sap.
really? i found this on my first playthrough! it is in almost the center of skyrim so i felt compelled to go there, also many search around there for loot or doungeons to crawl. idk maybe it's just me.
Candescence you should consider stop using fast travel and go walk without following the normal road Done that once on my first playthrough from riverwood to markath. Took me couple of hours but best day ever
I think you may be a going a bit too hard on the genocidal bit. The hist seem to only care about themselves and to a certain extent the argonians, they aren't killing other races because they are inferior or anything like that.
I think it's more that the Hist don't want non-Argonians in Black Marsh. Since Argonians worship the hist and will do anything to protect them, the trees feel safe and secure. The other races don't worship them so they don't trust them to the same extent, and use the blanket ideology of destroying everything in their home that they don't trust. It may just be a self-preservation decision.
"Genocide" doesnt have to have any reason other than "kill all of them" they dont have to be deemed insignificant, worse, or more lowly than the ones committing genocide. Genocide is genocide no matter the reason
@@TheDsRequiem Point is though, they're not genocidal for the sake of genocide, they just want to cleanse their home of races that they don't have control over.
Look, The Hist Trees Came to Tamriel, And created the Argonians The Sleeping tree (if it is a family member of the hist) could easily be used as a plot device in the future for the adding of a new race Still I feel like its name is giving, its sleeping, its currently not awake, i has no need for a race to do its bidding as it is not yet awake, but when it does awaken, Only then will we know these things Honestly, i want Mud Crab people
Maybe it'll be a rogue against the hist in a future story not only helping the player to defeat the hist but also allowing the argonians to continue existing but in a less destructive manner.
There are MANY races that were not used in the games yet. There are even other continents than Tamriel in Nirn... They don't need some tree to add new races.
A point to consider, the books hint a few times that the Hist of Lilmoth (the tree communicating with An-Xileel and the trees of Umbriel) was likely a rogue mind acting separately from the rest of the Hist.
It's a mixture of codeine and promethazine (cough syrup), usually mixed in a soda or something of the sorts, usually having a purple resemblance. In Houston we call it water.
What if the hist don't know about this one tree since its "the sleeping tree" it might be dormant so they don't notice, or maybe its so powerful the hist know about it but are afraid to awaken it
Ysolda - best wife evah! Once she runs the Bannered Mare from Hulda , she will infect the whole realm of Skyrim. Wonder what happens if I stick Nettlebane into the sleeping tree?
Honestly I love Ysolda, I went out of my way to sell her Sleeping Tree Sap to increase her wealth when she deals it, killed Hulda so she'd take over the Bannered Mare, and married her.
I got to give it to you @Camelworks, the way you used the icons/avatars(card decks) from The Elder Scrolls: Legends is Phenomenal... I feel more in depth , immersed and entertained while I watch the video... Thank you so much Ser 🐫 keep on keeping on
+FigznTreez Figueroa That's awesome to hear! I was worried that trying to explain lore while have no footage to accompany it would be really hard. Glad the TESL art worked out :)
This Skyrim game is a never ending rabbit hole. I received this game as a gift in December, and I am still playing to this day! Talk about getting your moneys worth. Anyway,.. thanks for the info.
nice. what's your character like? mine is a khajiit sellsword who focuses mostly on 1 handed. he is a legate in the imperial legion and a companion. he has some ties to the dark brotherhood but is not a member. i made him a few days ago so he's only level 15, but i've been playing skyrim for many years.
My first run was an imperial and I joined the stormcloaks yeah weird but I thought imperial was the default race and that I better just do that for now. I ended up playing it for 3 years and got to level 55 and I got so many items and quests it was insane
It was nice of the meteor to wait for the Ingenium to be built to fall. Someone should have reminded the dark elves that slowfall and levitate were both things in Morrowind.
I think it’s probaly meant to be much larger than it appears in game something not to big to be dealt with normally or driven by some magic that would be to powerful to be stoped by mortal mages
Are there likely to be Hist trees in the deadlands though? It was Mehrunes Dagon's plan and lava pits aren't exactly a favourable place for trees to grow. Although now I think of it there would well have been some in Camoran's Paradise. Most likely case is that someone from the Mythic Dawn drank some Hist sap.
TheMoonRover By the Nine! You talking about climate made me think. That's why it's called the sleeping tree, It's too cold for it in Skyrim! Perhaps It needs to be warmer for it to function. Perhaps nearby lava pits "could" be a possible area to grow. (We really need more information about these damn trees from that damn daedric prince's damn realm)
There was a dude in Mournhold who new about Oblivion crisis before it happened. You can talk to him in Tribunal expansion for Morrowind. So who knows how many prophets like him wonder the Tamriel.
I have an idea to go with what you've said about the tree, it comes from a flying city that consumes souls and the purple/bluish colours that glow on the tree is very similar to the colour of Soul Trap/reanimated corpses. The tree could actually be doing something similar to what the Hist sap does only instead of telepathically connecting them to each other, the sap of the sleeping tree could be connecting people's souls to itself and collecting the souls of every person that drinks its sap - collecting them for the floating city or like the name says, "Sleeping Tree" could mean the tree is actually dead/in a weak hibernating form and is collecting the souls of those that drink its sap to grow stronger before waking up to become something different like one of the Hist in Blackmarsh. Probably a stupid idea tbh I know haha but this is a really awesome video, you done an awesome job on this! I love watching videos like this and all your videos are brilliant!
This.... Is actually what I was thinking, but I wanted to read the comments before putting anything down, myself! Lmfao I was thinking that, in the spirit of the fact that all of the hists are connected via a root system, this new species of tree wouldn't have much connection, being from a different plane, as well as growing in Mundus soil, combined. Being so far away without a connected root system might make it difficult to communicate with or interact with because it did not grow within a colony nor share (currently) any of the same properties. When I first saw this thing in the tundra the very first thought I had was that it was going to suck my soul, cause all of my soul sucking enchanted items are the same darn color! I never got close enough to see the spigot but entered the cave. Looked up the sleeping tree sap and people mentioned getting a spigot (what followed was a hilarious quest on trying to remember ALL the places that had spigots and me loudly scoffing "now who would want THAT junk?! There aren't any sinks in skyrim!! And its not like they've got pancakes to get syrup for!!") But nooooooobody mentioned there was already a spigot IN the darn thing!
That and the fact that this spore came from a floating island that uses SOULS to power and sustain it could likely mean that this tree would have been a new generation/species of hist that relied on souls as part of it monolithic mindset because it CANT communicate in any other way...
"The tree has evil plans!", when i would say that in a public park, i would get a nice new home. Single room with padded walls, houskeepers with white coats and name plates on them, free rent and colourful little pills :D Maybe a visitor comes by: A strange looking old man with fancy clothes and a walking can talking wierd stuff XD
wow you really are delusional if you think you're going to get all that. What you will get is a police officer kicking your face in while he rips up your tent under the bridge and tosses it in the garbage.
@@caseyb1346 idc. You should've tagged john not me. Being someone who was homeless for awhile and made it out a-ok, I have minimal pitty for them. *shrugs*
Stoneblazer consider watching civilized elk's videos. They're mostly about adventure time; whether you're a fan or not, you'll admire his intelligence.
I agree with others here, saying that the environment of Skyrim is likely too cold for the Sleeping Tree to realize its full power. Also, I'd guess that the reason the Hist knew of the Oblivion Crisis ahead of time, is due to Hist being in other planes of existence, likely including The Deadlands, Mehrunes' plane.
I'm officially nicknaming the Sleeping Tree: "The Tree of Umbra" I got chills when Umbra was mentioned. I love that sword, and the warrior that wields it, (a woman named Umbra in oblivion, my guess being that she's like nightmare with soul edge from soulcalibur)
+goldendon Its gone, probably to the place where the hists originated, since the books are told from the perspectives of its characters its not clear where exactly it ended up since they don't know either If I remember correctly that is ^^"
Oh man, if elder scrolls 6 follows the lore and can stand up to previous games, it's going to be really interesting. My general prediction would be that altmer will be the vastly strongets faction in tamriel. While I'm totally pro empire, it seems like empire is fractured and in decline.
I'm just imagining this tree vibing, wishing to go home to Oblivion, and Camel walks up and is like: "WHAT ARE YOU PLANNING!?!" Y'all should read those books btw. They are really great. I'd really love if they got Greg Keyes to write more Elder Scrolls books.
I don't think we can assume it's connected to the other hist trees of Tamriel. It's from another plane of existence like you said, while it could share the same hive mind, it could also just be connect to it's brethren from where it originated--a plane of oblivion. Of course it's also even possible that it was cut off from its brethren when it came to Skyrim. We just don't know
The Hist in Blackmarsh contacted the trees on Umbriel while they were still in Clavicus Vile's Realm. The Sleeping Tree is the same type of tree and it's now also infinitely closer to the Hist of Blackmarsh. So we know they can connect and have connected across dimensions. It's now it's infinitely closer, making it, if anything, infinitely easier to connect with / contact.
ha sissy i drink their blood by crushing their leaves and blend it with water also sometimes eat their relatives (vegetables) a live with meat beat that
BG Hoody I never started the Sleeping Tree quest, otherwise I would've been forced to investigate around the tree to progress. I always assumed it was one of those "pointless" side missions where Klimmick wants you to bring some food up to High Hrothgar. Therefore, I never even bothered. And now I feel like a fucking dumbass. Thanks, internet! ( _cries self to sleep_ )
Suggesting Alftand take two... xD One TES: Detective- Alftand please. ^-^ I'd like to see you make it 'cause it's a very interesting place, with the excavation, murders, automatons and falmer and I'd love to hear your reasoning on why it is that exactly every excavation team member is either dead or hostile to the player, even though in many dungeons we meet people who want our help...
should do a video on that Ancient Elven questline in the Western part of the map in the mountains, involving the acquisition of the Bow of the Sun, and how the various areas came to be, how they were utilized, and what not.
When it comes to the Hist and the An-Xileel, I think its important to consider the fact that their relationship could be similar to the Prophets and the Forerunners in Halo. Very often the Prophets would twist the words of Forerunner Moniters in order to further their agenda and initiate the great journey, when every time they speak to the moniters they are told that there is no great journey, that the Halo rings are weapons, etc. The An-Xileel could easily "claim" their orders are coming directly from the Hist when in reality they only say that to further their genocidal and xenophobic agenda.
the hist could easily telepathically relay a message to all argonians that the anxaleel are twisting their orders. So no, that would not be the case. They want to kill other races in tamriel
Well... seeing as how I have just watched your information for the first time... it makes me want to go and burn this tree up. But that may not work, so I think I’ll just try many other ways to destroy this tree, but in a way that would be mettagaming. As my character did not learn of this in game. What do you think Camel ? By the way... it’s April 2019.
