5000 series DW was good enough for every hit record for a couple of decades, I'm not complaining getting a set of it on an e-kit. Seems like overkill, tbh
@@theflint7692 If you think that most of those people were playing DW hardware, clearly you've never heard of Tama, Sonor, Axis or Pearl. The Iron Cobra is... *BY FAR*... the most popular set of pedals on the planet. And it was used far far far more than DW 5000s ever were, especially in the studio.
well., not really.. still decades behind SD3 triggered from pads. this is 6 years ago and SMOKES any ekit today.. also the cymbals for instance af way better and very natural feeling and looking! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KLutgMnHhS4.htmlsi=2-7J1N0jw-hkD2iO ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xTzoZEnrD48.html
Maybe it's just me being older ( and not wanting to lug too much stuff these days) but I've never seen the sense of having an e kit be as bulky as a real one. One of the cool things about a small E Kit is you can lug most of it with one hand. I do think these look cooler and I can see the visual appeal but on a more practical side sseems like as much or more work as hauling an acoustic kit, plus you gotta plug everything in and hope all the cables work and so on. And for 9k? You coukd get a decent set of wheels or 4 or 5 decent kits, both acoustic and E, for that money. If you can afford it and you don't mind hauling it I guess it's pretty cool but not my thing
It's wireless. Completely. There is not a single wire connected to the kit itself. The only extra piece that this has is the hub which is rough the size of a pack of cigarettes. And that needs to connect to a laptop and can connect directly to a mixer eliminating the need for microphones completely
I agree! I've been playing Roland V-Drums, Live for the past three years. NOBODY pays any attention to the LOOKS! The band, the audience...NOBODY! It's nice to carry four toms to the stage in one trip.
I am guessing there will be one sooner or later, as there are so many players out there not looking for another kit they can use acoustically. Why have a gorgeous DW shell as base for an electronic kit? The change over is too much of a hassle for many.
Great video! Its the same issue i have with Roland. Huge money and only ok sound. In Canada this is about $12.6k plus tax and Superior Drummer still sounds better. The wireless triggers are a good step but a company has been offering wireless for years they just didnt have the money and marketing of DW. My hope is that now companies will be forced to bring wireless triggers to market.
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Ya if I am spending that kind of money, I’m getting the VAD706. And for even less I think the VAD507 is still a solid contender against this. But it’s a step in the right direction.
I had the Roland’s when they first came out. As the computers got more powerful so did the sounds in software kits. I think these are very convincing. Too expensive for my budget but they seemed to have nailed the sounds.
I would honestly just use Superior Drummer for the sounds and not the SounDWorks sound... the machine gunning isn't even the hardware's fault damn, couldn't they give it more samples?
I just loved this video, for so many reasons. For one, it was very entertaining!!!! Love your delivery and comments. You definitely cracked me up. Very informative as well. Hi hats seem wonky, just like my Roland hi hats. Great thorough video!
I was a employee at Sam ash and the dw rep came in and set up the demo of this kit and the coolest part that can be used as a party trick is you can take the cymbal off and walk 200 ft and the sound will still be playing out the pa. As well as the sound guy only has to plug one thing in and he’s done
Any "sound guy" worth his salt would actually VASTLY prefer to have individual outputs for each element of the kit. 2 channels of output is absolute nonsense on a $9k+ drum kit. Musicians running the FoH mix (even only a sub-mix) is the stuff nightmares are made of for FoH staff.
New to drums, I have a nice electronic kit and am restoring some old acoustic drums, the electronic ones just feel all wrong even though I have never hit an acoustic drum I just feel robbed of something. I suspect it is to try and catch those old school drummers and make them feel more comfortable with an electronic kit. So the short answer is “marketing” most likely.
Holy crap, as someone with a Roland TD-27 VAD set, I can actually see the price being well worth it if you need an electric set (or just really want an electric set). It’s just like anything else: you can get MOST of the benefits of something with a less expensive product, but to get every bell and whistle is couple extra grand. If they have the durability of Rolands, this can be your forever set, too. The cymbal sounds were a bit disappointing, but those drum sounds were on point
I was thinking that at least I'd hope- the cymbal sounds can just be updated like any software now days and they will only continue to sounder better and better, realer and realer. Still not worth it to me.
when using an e kit, your absolute best bet for drum sounds is using a drum vst like ezdrummer or addictive drums. usually the stock sounds are horrendous. (unless they’re great then use stock!!)
Finish: 10/10. Toms: 6/10. Kick: 7/10. Snare: 5/10. Cymbals: 2/10. Machine gunning: 0/10. Price: -50/10. Sorry, DW, that's a "no" from me. Roland does it better, and frankly eDrums have a loooooong way to go before I'm going to choose them over an acoustic kit for acoustic sounds. It's been awhile, David, good to have you back!
@@811970samson I did not know that, actually. I find that very interesting, as I have a lot of experience with multiple Roland kits and percussion pads, and they all sounded better than this. Thanks for the info.
Imagining myself littering 9 grand cash on the counter and then being very forgiving about this mountain of crap because „it’s DW‘s first shot“??? Gimme a break
This thing sucks for that price. Drums are overinflated in price right now anyways. It's actually fun watching the big box stores suffer and scramble right now. For instance...ANY TAMA should NEVER be over 3k. NEVER EVER. They're great kits...but trying to follow DW down the overpriced rabbit hole was a BAD move. There are so many used Tama Starclassics right now...going for the new price they were at 4 years ago. Laughable.
I think what may be getting lost in the price tag is the simple fact that this is essentially an endless amount of drums...Understanding ALL ekits are that way, but still...The look of a really nice acoustic (and potential for one) and the sounds of MANY! I have been playing with the roland stuff since the 90's. from a TD7 to a TD12 and now have a 30 that i have mixed and matched parts with so E kits are great for me...anyway i think the price makes sense if you look at it as a 1 time purchase and utilize the versatility it offers. software is just awesome!!
First time I've seen an electronic kit with cymbals that look like real cymbals, good stuff! Any chance you'll be checking out any of the Millennium kits in the future? I'm amazed at the amount of features you get for the price
If they based these on PDP shells instead of collectors series I think they could have a price that made it interesting, as it is I don’t see why anyone would buy this compared to a Roland VAD or the like
Honestly, someone needs to make an kit with entry-level shells that look nice, mesh heads and cymbals with USB output for $1500.00 that you can use with your favorite drum software. That would sell like hotcakes.
Pretty impressive how far electric kits have come in the past decade. Last frontier is to make the digital snare wires vibrate with ALL THE OTHER SOUNDS IN THE HOUSE
ok this kit actually seems really good, real strong start for dw for there first e-kit and doing something so ambicious as wireless. the dynamics also seemed good from what you were playing? a little bit of a shame on the symbals but those are usually the one part that are hardest to get right and rolands really the only one whos got that pretty well down, and yes electronic cymbals are very heavy, i think this kit would be awsoem with some acoustic cymbals. and oh mah god that software looks amazing
16:25 I just can’t fathom how toms in electronic drums today still sound that machine-gunny. DWe sounds like this. Roland does. Efnote too. Same as anything from Alesis, 2box, Yamaha, and the list goes on. The Pearl Mimic Pro is an exception (along with some purely software based solutions). To me it looks and sounds like DW got SOOO many things right the first time (ok, maybe not the price, but what can you expect from DW). But they REALLY dropped the ball on that artificial tom attack.
Very cool tech. Love the wireless idea. I... I... I... HATE the sound that was coming from those cymbals. All of them. Perhaps we're spoilt with how good your drums usually sound, but the thing I can never get over with e-kits is that cymbal sound. I'm sure in a mix it sits better (I often record with a cheap e-kit and send the MIDI to a VST and with a bunch of mixing I can get it to mix decently), but what I heard on this video, that's a no from me, especially for that price
One of the things that really aggravates me about e drums is that you really hear the clackedicklack of the plastic when you play them, esp. the cymbals will give you a good crack sound when played properly. And if your sound tech decides to turn your playing down to room level, people will end up hearing the clicking.
Dude!!! I totally know what you mean about new software and anxiety! I get super anxious when I start imagining the rabbit hole that lies ahead when dealing with installations and set up.
Most everyone here: "Wahhhh! 😭 it's expensive, so i hate it! I'm sure this will not be a popular comment...but for those complaining about the price, my guess is that you've never really priced a dw collector's kit with hardware, 2 crashes, ride, and hats...THEN price out a flagship e-kit...they have shell packs of this kit for 3-4k less. I paid almost as much for a roland td30kv kit... For everyone that is complaining about the sound, you need to understand that most "modern" sound modules (i.e. roland td50, td30...etc.) are compatible... not to mention that you don't have to use dw's sound works kits... other sound libraries are compatible...ezdrummer, etc... while i enjoyed this video, i suggest you check out the other more thorough 1hr+ look at this kit... he goes through all of the things this one missed. And besides, the sound is irrelevant to the functionality of any e-kit...
If the song was a kinda a new song I don’t think he would’ve cared as much but the song being so old and good I completely understand why he would want that 😊
Must admit it is pretty wild ..the sounds are very real the toms sound wide open with over ring like real Toms and I bet you can edit to your liking, the snares sound great ..the price Tag sure it's going to be high not much higher than a top of the line TD50 I'm sure it will come down....that fact that it is wireless that is the game changer ..I wonder will they sell the baskets and hardware seperate so you can add to your own drums down the line ..two outputs strange but I'm sure all of the mixing is done on the computer you could tweak this thing to death and have great results ..the idea is to plug and play that is progress
great video! I really like the wireless setup and the shells sound good. but the cymbals again sound mashine gun like (especially the hihat). I don't get how plugin cymbals do a great job in articulation for years now and no edrum company managed to come close to that (except the pearl mimic pro, because slate samples). With a price like that I expect at least the same performance my superior drummer/ggd has.
Speaking of mesh heads and regular heads. Any thoughts on if using mesh heads on the reso side with regular tom heads the batter side would work to have one kit that can be used for both silent practice in the mesh side and loud performance and rehearsals on the regular head side? I can't stand drum mute pads, I only have room for one kit and need both loud and silent often enough that swapping heads constantly is impractical. And I'm fine with the concert tom sound and modifications to make mounting upside down work.
I have a Roland VAD 506 - I bought the VH14 so it's essentially a 507. I am very interested in this kit but don't need it now for a few reasons. My kit is totally fine and I'll probably keep it for the foreseeable future That aside, if I were to go with this I would need it to be perfect to justify the price. The first thing, the metal cymbals. I play at home and have had a metal ecymbal before and it is noticeable louder. The second thing, the module. I like the laptop approach and use a VST from time to time, but that is mostly when I record. Most days, like 95% of the time, I just want to turn on a module and practice/play. So basically, I want a module, rubber cymbals, but then add the wireless, and I'm all good.
Honestly, if u want something like this (a compromise of all this different features) I don’t get why u would want it with DW. I made this myself (old Yamaha XP 3000 (only using the module,) old kit, mesh heads, Fazley e-cymbals. Works fine if you can’t make that much noise at home but you still want to play. There plenty of budget companies who’re making kits like this now.
I own both electronic and acoustic drums. Pros and cons to each. A purpose for each. My ears always lead my preference to acoustic. The feel is also a huge difference. Since this has been announced I have been wondering who is the target audience for this. The younger tech driven drummers out there probably won't have that kind of dough to drop on that kit. The older drummers who have the dough generally speaking don't want the hassle of computers and wireless pairing etc. Unless of course they employed by day in an IT position. So much easier to set up an all acoustic set and drum, no electricity or other junk to deal with. In these reviews I have not seen anyone testing them in real world live show. I have seen so many dropouts on wireless guitars and mics that have been easily fixed by a physical wire by the sound crew on the fly. How is any kind of issue with this kit in a live situation going to be fixed? A 40 minute intermission?
I went on a journey awhile ago with E-drums. The constant battle was between my desire for them to be "stealth", looking like acoustics while being more portable (and fit into a car easier). I find it interesting that these are heavier than acoustics and just as large...not even cocktail size. I get it but it would be good to see a more portable version. I'd also be interested to know if any thought was put into using real heads and dialing in the electronics to work more as acoustic triggers. After all, If I'm going to haul around a full DW set with hardware, I'm going to do what I can to use them acoustically.
With the price point of 9k, they couldnt send you 9000 hardware? Did nobody make that connection at corporate? That just kinda seems greedy to me. "thanks for spending 5 figures on our kit, here's our most mid-tier hardware!" Other than that, i think the dwe's are killer
DW really did something special with this kit. I'd be into getting one, but am not in the market. With the 1st Gen being this good, the 2nd I expect to be perfect. Is it actually necessary to remove the triggers, to go acoustic? Also, if they haven't already, having electric sounds to go along with an acoustic kit, would be a good idea.
I prefer the feel of real. A properly tuned acoustic kit just feels better to me. I never really understood why you would want a an electronic set. Maybe for recording? Or, laziness? Don't want to tune? I dunno, I'm sticking with my Gretsch Maple kit. Feels like home.
There are enough other options for converting your existing kit to an electronic kit that I can’t ever see paying this kind of money. I’d go the Evans Hybrid / Sensory Percussion route personally.
cool kit hope it sound well in acoustic mode but a bit expensive for an hybrid acoustic converted, especialy since Evans release a killer app sensitive mesh head with multi zone and a software solution that doing exactly the same and probably more, on any regular acoustic drum, same thing for trigger solution with DDrums trigger or Roland TM-6 pro with there trigger and cymbal pad.
They honestly don't sound as good as I thought they would for fuckin 10 grand. I appreciate your honest review. Funny the Gretch setting I almost liked better than the dw kits. I'll stick with my Tama kit!
If I had extra 10k for a this e-kit, I would wish they had collectors series lugs and tensions instead. But anyways, the e-drum sound is still something I cant get over.
Looks pretty freakin awesome... BUT... haha. The cymbal thing is an issue and (It's always this) The hi hats. When I had my Alesis Strike Pro SE I literally just used my ACTUAL hi hat cymbals rather than the ones included. Since we were playing live it worked. I guess since the DWe is wireless, you don't have to worry about expansion? You just buy more drums... but would they send you an 8" tom? a 14" Floor tom? I mean this kit is designed to go from Electric to Acoustic so they would HAVE to send the appropriate sized drum right? Like if I want an 18" floor tom.... Also I'm wondering if they will end up changing the cymbal design to something closer to the low tone style that look and feel more like cymbals? I must say.... Excellent first effort by DW. Well Done!
There's definitely a market for this and the technology behind it is incredible. That said, $9,000 before taxes is so outside of my budget, it could guarantee I'd sound like Taylor Hawkins and I still wouldn't be able to afford it. 😅
Talked to John Good once and the timbre note on the inside is calculated before they put the hardware on the drum so by the time the drum is finished that note is actually obsolete :/ what it’s good for is tuning the kit in intervals like major 3rd rack toms apart or perfect 4th between the floors yada yada. So yeah that’s why when you tune it to the recommended timbre note it sounds like crap lol
Interesting, but insanely expensive... specially in non-dollarized countries. I placed mute heads on my old acoustic drum set, and a $ 300 trigger system... plus about $ 200 in regular electronic cymbals. Don't have all the dynamics, but for training is perfect.
I do not know the details of the software provided here, but I would have trouble trusting DW enough to spend this much on an electric drum kit (if I had the money lol). I expect instruments, especially expensive ones, to be musical tools capable of providing value for decades if taken care of properly. Instruments that rely on proprietary software can break or degrade in quality based on the whims of the company providing the software. - What if the software is discontinued? Will you be able to use this in 50 years? - What if they drop support for your computer hardware? - What if a firmware update bricks the modules? Would they provide replacements? - What if they implement privacy-invading tracking and telemetry (Maybe they already have)? Is that something we should accept? I know that it has aux output, and that it can be connected to other brand modules, but is the support guaranteed? Also, a lot of the value here seems to be in the DW software, so using the above workarounds might still degrade the value.
I have a roland td27 kv, has the digital snare and ride, the snare's pretty good, but "the feel" part that you mentioned and btw mine came with rubber cymbals but i know exactly what you mean with the slick and bounce from the mesh, and when you go back to your acoustic drum set, you just don't want to play the electronic one. mines been getting sitting their untouched, mostly friends want to play a bit on it lol. edit- real cymbals feel so much better and the hi hat especially is the worst thing on e-drums
