A huge thanks to Dean for checking some comments and replying with a link to the container he used. If you want to give them a try: Trays - amzn.to/2GfJOrb Rigid Airline - amzn.to/2B9tR2v
@@KevinsCaninesAndAquatics water circulates from a pump in the tank under the trays, he cleans them out by washing and I believe some hydrogen peroxide
@@BentleyPascoe Sorry I meant how does he get the water into the trays? I loved how he has his trays for the system but didn't really learn a ton else. Air is from the central air system he has in his fish room but what about getting water up into the trays? I think he mentioned he used a circulation pump to agitate the bottom of the 20 long so no debris settles and gives the sponge filter a chance to pick it up. Does he use another circulation pump to add water to the trays? I believe he has water going into each individual tray as opposed to having it flow through each of them in a line.
This...this right here is the kind of old school years of success knowledge that we don't want to lose from the hobby. So glad you did this interview on this subject.
I love going into the “archives” and finding videos that I haven’t seen. Dean is a tremendous wealth of information. Thanks again, for sharing with us!
From this video, I have learned that Dean isn't only a master breeder, but also a master builder. He is able to build exactly what he has in mind with great skill and purpose. Thank you for this video!
Bentley, I think you did a fantastic job in both the interview with just the right questions and the format. Excellently done so the rest of us could learn! Thank you!
Dear Bentley, thanks so much to get this video from the Master Breeder Dean with his awesome, unthinkable ideas. His creativities look so 'simple', but they have such workable systems. So amazing
This is exactly what i've been trying to figure out for ages, i've been sketching ideas while searching for months on youtube cause i knew EVENTUALLY i'd find someone that already worked it out for me haha! I'm excited to try this soon, so many ways to adjust this, very versatile and buildable :D
Holy cow that was an awesome interview and great topic I learned so much I think I’ll have to watch it a couple of times to soak it in. Thank you Bentley for doing that
Wow, what a great video! The first of two, you say? Yaaaaay! He really is a master breeder, man. I don't have the money or space for that kind of DIY, but someday, i hope to! I loooove breeding fish. Space is just the ultimate dream killer lol. I'm glad you got us a look at this. Oh, and I super enjoyed your guest spot on Joel's show. Love seeing fishfam collaborating!
Love, love, loved this video topic! I really appreciate you asking and Dean answering, the detailed questions and answers, all about the fry system! It’s a genius system and loved hearing all about it’s evolution and the current one. Kudos!
I’ve wanted this video for ages!!! I’ve watched the segment on Deans fry setup that Cory did over and over. Thanks for getting all the nitty gritty details :D
How the duck did I only discover this video in 2020? Dean is an absolute jedi master. And good on Bentley for making this happen. Solid content. What a legend! Cheers from South Africa.
Bentley great video of choice mate. You are 110% right about Deans fry setup, such an intelligent man. One thing that always stands out when Dean is on camera is how humble he seems. I'm sure interviewing someone that you look up to would make you nervous Bentley, I know I would be lol. I'm heading straight to your You tube channel to watch some more of your videos. I subscribed straight before the video ended. Again awesome work and looking forward to watching more. Thanks Jarrod
Great video! I used an adaptation of this system for about 6 months, but eventually got tired of trying to keep the tray screens clean and overflowing them. Goldfish fry just seem to require more feeding than the trays allow
Great instructional video ... thanks to both you, Bentley & Dean, for collaborating and sharing this. My one related question is: how do people with 8-5 jobs manage the food supply for fry, when the fry are at their most fragile early stages?
Depending on the size of the fry, this is where some of the better live foods come into play - vinegar eels for example stay in the water column and are very tiny, so you have a little extra in the water and the fry can feed on them throughout the day. Other examples like paramecium and infusoria cultures also work well, unfortunately unless the fry are larger by nature its hard to apply this to powder/flake type foods as auto feeders dose a lot more than you typically want for a group of fry.
I was right there with you about wanting to know more about this system when I first saw his room. How does he go about cleaning the trays though? Great job Bentley.
Considering the constant drip there's likely almost no need to clean, just the sponge when he moves the batch of fish. Careful feeding is key here, but you can also use a small pipette to suck out detritus
I like using those guppy breeding nets for keeping fry in a similar way, if you have some peppered cories or similar in the main tank they come up to the net and suck uneaten food right through the net.
Also... sorry I'm asking so many questions! But, how do you collect your Ram eggs? My mated pair, in a 29g, lay on rocks and before I notice, they've moved them and buried them in a little pit! I tried gathering the free-swimming fry with a turkey baster, but they did not survive in my fry box (and I can work on that). But I'd like to see my Ram parents raise their fry in their tank. It's just hard to get the food to them in such a large tank (live baby brine shrimp, some fry food from Aquarium Co-op, infusoria from catappa leaves already in the tank).
Awesome system, love dean, and love that the link for the trays was shared. May seem like a silly question but I'm still learning, is the tank its self actually used for fish too or is it just water change volume for the trays.
Awesome setup! Thanks for making this video Bentley, it's been really helpful. You should talk to Dean about doing a series on breeding Cory's scoot n' fruity puffers for his youtube channel debut video! Those fish are so cool but too expensive, we need to get more and more people breeding them in the states! Cheers Bentley, hope your weekend is great.
Honestly I think the best bet there is Preston John. He's been so successful, it's likely the best source of info in the US. Over time I might get to do more with Dean, we shall see. Cory kinda has priority on a lot of that content.
@@BentleyPascoe I've been excitedly waiting on Preston John's website to really get going. I signed up asap hoping for possible shipping in the spring when the little guys and girls have some size to them. I geek out at the thought of keeping and breeding Schoutedeni puffers like you do to rainbowfish. Just wish there was a video of someone who was 100% confident in their pronunciation of "Schoutedeni." Lol
Great video! I use the same zebra fish tanks LRB Aquatics uses. That allows multiple racks above the sump. You could do the same with Deans system. Just change the slot to pvc bunghole and pipe the return to the sump allowing vertical expansion. Combining this and LRB’s gives you the best of both. I will for sure be stealing the zip tie hard line air system though. Deans will maintain closer temp tolerance for sensitive species. Again great video!
Yep, Dean and I shortly mention that system. We've actually discussed it at length a few times with the biggest concern being keeping them clean. As I recall Lucas had some diatom issues in them, but I will say its a really good system if you need maximum density. Gary has some augmentations to it in Lucas' recent visit which are very smart that I like quite a bit. Both systems are good, I just personally see a few more benefits in Dean's system that make me love it as much as I do, especially for rainbows.
I have not had those issues but have not tried putting lights so close. Mine also has never been over 10 trays with a 29 gallon sump. I used plastic tubbing for the returns as well so there is no standing water in the system. It works really well for trying Guppy variations and selective breeding. But I don’t keep them in longer than about a month before going to a grow out tank. In my larger 5 gallon fry tanks they may stay longer. Those I use a pvc (siphon) overflow and so far so good. I’m sure with more time and practice it will tune in nicely. I worry about clogging and overflows stopping but using Aquaclear sponges they have done well. But alas if I had the room Deans is sweet. I just have to stay more compact as I rent and can’t devote the space I would like too. Thanks again for information it will for sure improve what I have going!
Tell Dean if he wants to make breeding dishes he could get plexiglas, a form and a heat gun. Cut the plexiglas to the right size and lay it in the form then heat it until it forms around the form. Then he could spray paint it. Then he can get it the size he wants it.
10:30 " I Don't have emergency overflows in these and i haven't had that problem, yet.... *Nervously scans room to double check nothing's flooded* " Omg every fish keepers nightmare, nobody wants to jinx themselves haha.
Hi! Love your videos. So, you use coffee filters in your small, fry boxes to hatch eggs so that you can insert a bubbler and get some serious tumbling going on, I assume? Then, once the eggs hatch, you turn them loose into the box?
on another topic, how often should I add Seachem Stability to my 75 gallon Discus tank? Ph is 7. My fish store guy has me adding 8 capfuls daily for a month or longer. Is this justified? Thanks
Typically you only need it post water changes, once a tank is established it should have a solid bacteria culture and you should no longer need it unless you did a really deep cleaning of your filter
hi bently ,hope you well , sorry this is off topic . will keep it very short . my water out the blue , became milky i guess, and today that milkyness has turned into what looks like white strands of cotton. Any thoughts on what it is and how i can get rid of it Thanks Jason
It sounds like a rather extreme bacterial bloom. I would be doing a lot of testing of the water to see parameters and see if it's tied to spikes of any kind.
@@BentleyPascoe thank you kindly . To say my testing kit is inadequate , would be the understatement of the year . i will take a sample of my water to my local store ASAP ..Can a bacterial bloom be harmful to my fish ? Its now 21 33 Sunday evening , all my fish seem fine , but will remain in the tank for atleast 10 hrs before the store opens , Is there anything you would do to try ensure their good health . i did do a 50%water change .THANKS
@@BentleyPascoe hi Bentlry , hope you well . thought i would just follow up with you as i think i finally resolved the issue . and what seems to have been source of my bacterial bloom issue was the plastic flower pot that no longer had plants growing from it but still had that white fertlizer enriched material in it . i removed it yesterday and this morning my water is almost back to perfect . thanks once again for your valuble feedback
This is an amazing video! I went to the Container Store and picked up some of those containers for my setup. My question is how did he cut the holes in the plastic where the sponge goes?
I taped off the area that I wanted to cut out, then drilled a hole at each end of the slot, then like others said, I used a dremel to cut in between. Cleaned it all up with a fingernail sanding stick.
Bently, after some trial and error, I made my own derivative of Dean's system. Its working great for me. Details here johnsaquatics.com/wp/2019/03/19/my-fry-tray-system/
@~27:00 Even if you used a 40 breeder that was deeper, bracing could be used on the top of the tank to adjust the depth at the surface of the water at the top of the tank, so that those trays would still fit the same way. Loved your video. Very informative.
Personally, I like to let fish spawn in a tank and then move them out so that the fry have an established tank to graze on. I find that rainbow and tetra fry are much less sensitive when they are in an established tank rather than a small container.
What works best for you should always come first, but often when breeding for taw volume, moving the parents often can be very stressful. If you do it only a few times a year, it's no problem!
Anther question: I have used Seachem ParaGuard when hatching eggs, somewhat successfully, but you use methylene blue until wiggling stage. Do you really do only a 50% water change when they wiggle, leaving some of the blue in? I've been afraid that any methylene blue would kill wigglers. Also, I've been experimenting with just catappa leaves in egg boxes, with extreme bubbling agitation, and it has worked well with Cories. Less well with Bolivian Rams... Cories, in my experience, are very hardy little dudes.
The amount of methylene blue that Dean is using in his setup is so minimal we're talking like one to two drops in one of those large specimen containers so it's just enough to barely stay in the water.
Pretty certain these are the trays he's using, or perhaps the shallower version of this: www.containerstore.com/s/kitchen/refrigerator-freezer/interdesign-deep-fridge-binz/12d?productId=11000497
They are actually these containers www.amazon.com/dp/B00WSO2E8C?pf_rd_p=7ebdab82-de3b-42f2-8032-aa63ae38b0fa&pf_rd_r=5CPAGKKMV9GJFB8T7AB5&pd_rd_wg=XjZ5X&pd_rd_i=B00WSO3B3O&pd_rd_w=nY56n&pd_rd_r=0827dad1-9cae-4307-a4b1-d5a08f777529&ref_=pd_luc_rh_crh_rh_sbs_02_03_t_img_lh&th=1 They are made by InterDesign, the difference is these have the smooth corners in the bottoms.
This is used normally with egg layers, so the eggs are moved to trays, hatched then raised until a certain size depending in fish, then moved from trays to grow out tanks.
Dean has told me it's a much larger pump than needed. You would likely be just fine with a much smaller pump like something you'd use on a 3-5g tank. The more important part is having a great prefilter to the pump to remove particulates from the tubing.
@@BentleyPascoe Thank you, Bentley, I think I've watched this like 3 or 4 times trying to figure out how he did a lot of the things he has. Also, If you could have him show how he made the vinegar eel harvesting system I'd appreciate that too! Thank you for doing a video on this it was so helpful and so useful thank you!!! I really wish that he makes videos :-( . Thank you for doing the video!!!
@bentleypascoe So I have watched this several times in the past. I am doing a new breeding project with non-annual killifish. I am curious about the size of fry that could be used in this type of system, does it all come down to managing flow and very fine/high ppi sponge? Curious if you have any insight.
I can answer some, there is the fine sponge on the intake of the pump and some other sponges down within. He then pushes from that pump up into the PVC which delivers the regulated stream of water into the trays using the valves. I will in the future do a full step by step build of this set up - look forward to it!
Bentley Pascoe good man, I'm really looking forward to it. I like his system and understand how to use it but I have no idea how to set up the actual mechanics. I would love a super detailed tutorial on building it. The parts, the process, the mechanics. Tks again.
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