The Most Incredible Attempts at Perpetual Motion Machines 

Just hide it in the 4” thick base of the machine

Damn, he hid the whole atmosphere as the battery.

Wireless electricity

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You stole that from Ramzy video lol

That is clever. Make that ore pay for the privilege of being moved to a lower elevation. My 9th grade physics teacher would approve. 😉

That’s actually really cool.

Reminds me of a system of moving ore via ski-lift style cable system. Empty containers moved back up by the weight of filled containers moving down.

@@nicholascurran1734 that the one Tom Scott covered in his video?

It actually looses charge over time and is far from being the biggest electric vehicle but it is something like 90% efficient. Pretty good for a vehicle with insane rolling resistance. There is a train that might pull off 100%. Same method just better rolling resistance and a perfect location for it. The ropeways used to do the same thing and ran as long as there was weight in the descending buckets. It's an old idea we are just finding great new ways to use it. Battery technology might make the big dumper 100% sooner than later. That would open up a lot more use cases.

"While the pursuit of perfection is a guaranteed failure, the pursuit itself is what holds the value." I love this! I don't know if it is a quote or you made it up, but I am going to use it.

As Time approaches infinity, humanity approaches perfection. Of course, infinity is never met, but we do grow.

​@@sethaaronweaver kinda like "life is a journey, not a destination."

I absolutely agree!

No kidding. And that doesn't even take into the fact that people want to take energy from these systems. That would require GREATER than 100% efficiency.

@@glenneric1 why greater than 100% efficiency? like a bike that uses no energy to spin the wheels keeps going forward indefinetely, it will go slower depending on the terrain friction but it's speed is subtracted only 1 time, so it can go forward forever, which would require infinity so to do this it must generate infinite energy with just 100% efficiency. If i am wrong please tell me because im curious

@@edsonluizbrasilfilho3840 because a bike that does nothing but go forward is not actually doing any work. If it is going forward AND powering a light bulb then it is doing work. Whenever people talk about perpetual motion they usually also mention the phrase 'limitless energy' which implies they are trying to extract work from the process in addition to merely letting it 'perpetuate'

@@edsonluizbrasilfilho3840 Yeah, but try riding that bike. You'll need more than 100% efficiency.

So in other words you are the perpetual motion machine 😂

Your machine, what ever you build, like all machines is WEAR.

You are a rarity amongst perpetual motion inventors: you have discovered the true meaning of the term! XD

Eh you will stop one day or the other so you aren't one either ;)

If you last 182+ years consider yourself succesfull :D

Any chance you could scan the book and distribute it?

By the time it stops, we might be out of fossil fuels and fully on renewables. (if we don't blow ourselves up that is)

They gotta know how huge of a discovery it is, beforehand

Its like perpetual hiccoughing, you dont want to stop it in case its a record but you want to murder them all the same

To be honest I think it's quite idiotic lol I understand wanting to see how long it keeps going for, but if that machinery actually holds the key to making batteries that could last hundreds of years, maybe it would be worth it to examine the thing now rather than having to wait for potentially hundreds of years... Also considering that having more efficient energy would not be a terrible idea in this period of time

Could the batteries potentially be nuclear with a very long half-life? I know it would be before such technology was discovered, but perhaps Watkins and Hill stumbled upon a new radioactive element and at least suspected that it was a "new and different" element with *strange* "new and different" properties and used the molten sulfur to cover it up. Perhaps they tried to repeat the effects of the bell but were unable to do so and eventually just sold the bell. I dunno - just conjecture on my part! In any case - I'd say that they "virtually" cracked the perpetual motion riddle and that the Oxford Electric Bell is a "virtual" perpetual motion machine! Pretty d%mn incredible. 🙂

I spent hours trying to trick the program “Crocodile Clips” into making one. Never worked, but I did have some pretty incredible flywheels on those beasts.

Trying is how you learn! It's not futile to experiment and come away with a negative result. It's just one more datum to wield.

I think you became a part in the perpetual motion machine, with the planet growing more and more of you, permanently attempting the futile motion, over and over again. Until someone points out the sun is ultimately the battery in this perpetual machine...

awesome!!

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Yes! Just commented same, I have one, just saw this comment

@@CaskStrength777 Is it not practical to scale up ?

there would never be a real one on here !! they wouldn't allow it ! they would buy them up like they did all of the rest !! only unworking models on here !!

That's a cool idea lol

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic

@@egglion7931 any sufficiently dumb enough person can be convinced a machine is magical

​@@NoConsequenc3Any sufficiently crude magic is indistinguishable from technology.

It's the Enron of channels

Its the speech affectation.

@@avidadolares ?

Kudos man, I think you’ve discovered perpetuality. !!!!!! 🤣

Well, when one loses credibility through simple google searches, you tend to move a lot

His external source is bamboo underwear, waterproof shoes, and slimy green vitamin drinks.

And one helluva annoying voice.

Is this guy the same i see on other channels? Is he an terminator(ai) ai as a pirate will say😂

He's an example of narcissism and greed.

Go back 500 years show someone a modern phone ask if it will ever be possible

It's totally possible to have machines , based in fluid dynamics, , that have such low frictional losses that they only need generate a small amount of energy to keep the fluid moving. This energy can be found by stimulating piezo-electric crystals in the fluid flow, which exerts pressure change on the crystal. Once the fluid is at speed, it only takes a small amount of energy to keep it going that fast, and the size (and therefore potential pressure differences) of the vessel can be scaled up. More energy out than in, thanks to piezoelectricity.

A lot of calculators, especially graphing calculators, contain a backup battery

@@brennanmercker5084 that wouldn't be enough to power it though? Only to keep the memory alive.

@@renakunisaki if its a calculator for school then it probably powers itself of salty tears

I'd say that, in addition to that marvelous calculator, your friend had found that other essential requirement - a group of very gullible mates! 😉

@@theoztreecrasher2647 or maybe it did have a solar cell that just didnt look like one since its basically a tiny black square that might even be matte finish.

in my novels I had elves build an amusement park ride that is a perpetual motion machine, honestly, I can not see how this won't work, would you like a description of it

@@jamiebennett6354 If you can describe it precisely enough, I ought to be able to explain the catch.

@@Xezlec simply put the riders get on a lift to the top of a small ferris wheel and boards a pod, there are 4 to 5 pods on this wheel (one side only) as the ride goes down at the bottom the pod will disconnect and at a slight angle by gravity rides a track to the next much larger Ferris wheel that it gets connected to (this is where the ride gets fun) because of the gear ratio the ride up is very fast, at the top, it gets disconnected again and glides down back onto the smaller Ferris wheel, so what we have is the gravitational weight of 4 to 5 pods at say including passengers 600 lbs each pod. going DOWN that will force the one pod UP to continue the ride, extra electricity is used to supply the elevator to get the rider onto the first Ferris wheel and entertainment lights

I estimated it would take 2 pods to get the one pod to the top of the second Ferris wheel and one pod to compensate for the gear friction and one pod just for friction overall which leaves one pod for electricity generation. ALL of this is energized by the earth's natural gravity (won't work in space of course)

@@jamiebennett6354 I like the idea, but depending on how you connect the 2 ferris wheels there is either a problem with the distance the big ferris goes, or the smaller one. If you fix that then the extra 'distance' becomes less 'power', so you wouldnt be able to keep going. I think where your idea is slightly inaccurate is the understanding of how gears (or ferris wheels in this case) work. A smaller gear needs to turn more to move a bigger one (meaning the pods on the smaller and would have to go up before being able to be used going down) or if you connect the big one on one axel to a smaller one, more force would be required to turn the bigger one so there would be no net 'gain'

I live in Otago and I just laughed as he butchered the pronunciation 😂😂

@@Mina265 I've just listened to one of his Decoding The Unknown podcasts and he pronounced Whanganui as "wahn gah noo" - too funny!!

😭😭😭😭😭😭😂😂@@cheekyb71

​@@Mina265 To be fair, Kiwis butcher the English language...a far cry from the heavily tones of the angelic Aussie accent. 😉🇦🇺

​@@johno9507 Tu rught Guttuh luv thu kuwu uccunt

Some things are so obvious and covered so frequently that it just gets exhausting to hear about, talk about, and explain to people. The correct response to anyone, in any circumstance, saying they have designed a perpetual motion machine is to roll your eyes and walk away and not to speak to them ever again as to avoid the topic of conversation drifting back to their fantastical wishes that defy reality.

Yeah, the sponge thing was one I'd never heard of before, yet had the least satisfying debunk

Yeah but the answer to perpetual motion is always "because physics." Even earth will eventually stop spinning. If you can maybe make a thing that moves for 10 000 years, that can almost be classified as perpetual motion because who's going to argue but then also you want to attach a load at some point so you can make that motion do some work for you and that's where it will always fall flat. The device might be so perfectly balanced and engineered that it can teeter back and forth or spin or whatever but then it's always: "Now we just need to make it 10x bigger and it'll generate free electricity" but that's not how scale really works. Eventually you get tired of explaining what is essentially the same concept over and over again and that's when you start to say "because physics"

Perpetual engine is actually exists. Its basically atmosphere check my latest video

@@nibiruofficial4463 An "atmospheric engine" is just a heat engine with the cold tank in time instead of space. In fact, that's what the *first example in this video* was... The second law isn't broken if your engine needs cool night air or a cold chamber to offgas heat into.

Not very sure (I can't remember where I read it), but I think the working principle of the Atmos clocks is atmospheric pressure variations, and not (maybe not only) temperature variations, hence the name "Atmos"

@@SirMorganFlint pv = nrt Alla same ting, M'lud! 😂😂😂

yeah you're not the only one

Same

And there is always a chance someone might (accidentally) figure out how to tap energy from some physics effect. Like the atmospheric clock from the video was pretty clever, makes you wonder how far people got with other sources.

No it's a fun design problem. We could even do an annual design competition for it.

I feel like that is already a niche in the already niche kinetic sculpture culture. On an unrelated note, if you managed to actually parse that fucking sentence, I salute you, cos just writing it made me feel like I'm having an actual stroke

@@D1GItAL_CVTS spaces where art and engineering intersect are lovely.

They make cool desk toys...

there's totally an alternate reality right now where they just skipped fossil fuels and everything is running off energy gradients and some human power to kickstart

If you don't already know about this and are interested in going down a pretty fascinating rabbit hole check out the Stirling engine.

Since there is no "proper perpetual motion devices', anything and everything is more interesting than nothing.

@@MrT------5743 May be odd, but I find "nothing" very interesting

I agree! Osmotic power is my all-time favorite weird energy source. It generates power just from the increase in entropy when you let salt diffuse from salty water into fresh water. There is at least one working power plant right now, in Norway!

110% ;)

The problem is that it cant do any additional work. A 100% efficient machine is only a little more useful than a 99.999% efficient one, but a 100.001% efficent machine would be utterly game breaking.

Did you defend Torby and call the teacher's hypocrisy? Nice

@@ZarHakkar I was Torby and none dared to defend him.

@@Torby4096 I just read your username :(

@@ZarHakkar hehe -- sometimes I switch to 3rd person. I know not why.

@@Torby4096 Ah yes I have also been kicked out of class for asking good questions. Most people are still petty children that never grew up, and all teachers are people so it stands to reason you will meet teachers that get stroppy and throw a temper tantrum when you say something to confuse or contradict them.

Same with me and my grandfather. Man he liked his magnets.

@@glenneric1 lol yeah mine had all kinds of crazy shot in this hidden workshop.

Too bad neither of them studied thermodynamics for a day. They could have saved a lifetime of wasted efforts.

Don’t confuse having a hobby with believing it.

I think if it uses magnets that counts as an outside source of energy. I have a magnetic "perpetual motion" machine I'd like to try to build some day, see if it at least works, even if it's not truly perpetual.

neat. do you remember what it was called? I can't be certain because I don't know what its called, but It sounds like either an electromagnet and hidden battery to pull the ball across and then deactivating the electromagnet so the ball doesn't get held in place by the magnetic field or hidden mechanism to tilt the track.

No, sorry. I watched it years ago and don't remember the title. @@dragonmasterlangeweg7625

@R D Yeah one of those could even help run a nuclear power plant.

@R D I don't think you got the Simpsons reference I was making.

@@Vidar93 Boy, I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder

If you reached near-perfect efficiency you would be harvesting energy from the earth's gravity well ?.?

I remember as a child getting the idea to use magnets to rotate a metal shaft to get rotational power. I had just reinvented a crappy electric motor lol.

THE INFINITY TRAIN IN AUSTRALIA = AN IRON ORE TRAIN THAT CHARGE'S BATTERIES WHILE IT ROLL'S DOWN HILL TO A PORT UNLOAD'S THEN DRIVE'S BACK TO THE MINE UNDER ELECTRIC POWER

@@biggo4637 Actually no. The energy gained by letting the water run down is exactly the same amount of energy needed for raising the same mass of water (in the form of steam) up to the higher potential. We humans are just used to ignore some sort of energy transfers. Eg. If a machine makes some noise it can not be a perpetual motion machine, since generating noise takes energy too.

"Ah, to be that naive again..." You could go into politics or journalism.

Maxwell's Demon was/is a theoretical thought experiment, and it has been pointed out that the Demon itself would require energy.

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Yeah, the balls roll down and then somehow make the thingy pivot and lift them back up.

@notfiveo ha

Exactly. The balls both go to the right, shifting the center of mass to the right, and for some reason this forces the LEFT side of the contraption down with all the force of a nuclear bomb. Its obviously being operated by some mechanism under/behind it.

What if the battery consumes less energy than what you get out of the system being powered by it?

​@@BillGreenAZthen you either have something else powering it, or you're in for being responsible for THE biggest discovery in human history

@@99temporal I would think if you could somehow leverage the force of gravity then you would have something.

​​@@BillGreenAZthat is what everyone in the wheel's design thinks too, you cant use gravity to rise something that needs more force applied than the one you are using. Unless you use evaporation to get mass as energy storage in a higher point and use the force created because of it falling down, but that is not a perpetual machine. You cant break the laws of the universe, but you can use them to create real stuff and amazing things. Yes, maybe you cant create a perpetual machine thanks to gravity, but you can use gravity and mass as energy storage and create devices that would be fully charged with you just moving up some weights. That is something you CAN do.

@@SebaBuenoHaceMusiquitaJijiji, yes, that's what I am thinking as well. If the energy that it takes to cause a wheel to be overbalanced and spin is less than the energy produced during rotation, then you would have more energy out than you put in. In effect, an energy generator.

Because we are stupid

The sad part is in a millennium when my descendants find your post and think you're a prophet

Anyone creating an perpetual motion machine would be killed by the energy industry. Because it would threaten their bottom lines. We have all been lied to for 150 years. We could have avoided oil all together starting back in 1880. Electric and steam cars existed then. But there was no money in it. Big oil. Money talks, bullshit walks. And the 'dry piles' might be radium. But I assume they used a geiger counter on it to see if it was radioactive...

ig hab is gewossen lol

I can pnly assume your joking i cant stand the idiocy of believing all our advances in tech are more than human invention. Great imagination though.

That's Crookes radiometer, not barometer

@@reamick thanks for spotting that

Now if we can just combine the Bevery clock and the Oxford electric bell...and then find a way to draw power from them.

There is this thing called heros, and they do not all wear capes

Who let Clarkson in here?

​@@jiversteve GOLD 💀.

I honestly thought this was Today I Found Out until I read this comment.

But Simon isn’t a closed system 😂

Perpetual hosting machine

Yeah exactly. I know they can't exist.. but something in me tries to think about how it "could" be done.

We better think of how to extract energy from around us, I mean, there’s probably a lot out there. Also thinking about storing that energy goes hand in hand

@@turolretar true energy storage is a massive issue we need to solve

Maybe memes are the real perpetual motion machines.

@@notyourdad The real perpetual motion machines were the friends we made along the way.

Yep, its part of the reason for voltage spikes right when you turn a circuit on.

2 projects to look at... Ambient RF energy harvesting Atmospheric Ion Harvesting

Wardenclyffe Tower holds the key

@@Kevin-dt9xm huh the more you know

Is this related to copper turning green?

Extreme cold magnets or something

Keep at it buddy. I believe in you.

@@stefanpredl6849 Super conductor magnets

@@stefanpredl6849 Those would serve a second benefit, supercooled so it uses less power, but also to condensate the air and making it a vacuum so less air resistance.

I remember geomags/supermags. I once made a contraption like what you're describing, combined with a knex machine powered by a wind up gravity motor that would shift the magnets around the edge, allowing the suspended shape to spin for over a week straight.

what you are talking about with an electromagnet will be able to make it spin non stop ;D

@@shujin7024 yea but I was 12 and didn't have an electromagnet lol

@@Necro-the-Pyro hahaha that's fair I was imagining the contraption in my head in this is what came out. I believe you can make one but I wouldn't know how probably a variable powersupply, iron core and copper wire.

@@shujin7024 no, it will only make it spin as long as the electromagnet is powered and/or the equipment doesn't break down due to wear and tear. Definitely a finite limit.

Tinnitus

They forgot to install a snooze button 😂

also the karpen pile.

Time crystals seem to be unaffected by entropy... perhaps the answer lies down that emerging branch of science?

You need to go easier on your cellphones.

The vacuum of space is not subject to entropy. Besides that we know very little about our reality and the things within it. Haven't even got passed our moon much less explored distant planets in this universe or the infinite others. So to say impossible shows a great amount of arrogance and ignorance.

@@aeonproelium The reverse is actually more true: to assume that physics here on earth might be somehow special would need an even bigger leap of faith. Not to say it's impossible but in my limited knowledge those odds would make playing the lottery as certain as an apple falling if you drop it. There are big known unknowns like dark energy/matter or what happens at the singularity of a black hole but all in all considering we're dealing quite well with those unknowns. Maybe our math is still too weak (e.g. Einstein wouldn't have been able to "get it" without Lorentz and Poincaré using their noggins), maybe we need more weird out of the box tricks like Feyman integrals. But having said all that... there's not been a single iota of the 0th law of thermodynamics being leaky in any way. Axing that axiom (pun unintended) and still trying to make the rest of physics work on paper should be a nice excercise for a summer holiday (or a few lifetimes).

@@aeonproelium That would be assuming that physics suddenly worked differently in other parts of the Universe, as if all planets didn't all form due to clumping of space matter over millennia. Sure, there could be some VERY weird matter out there, or biosystems that are vastly different to us which are carbon-based, a Universe CANNOT have two contradicting laws existing at once. Including your brain and any simulations that it can come up with, they all have to be subjected to the universal laws of our Universe.

Thought they wouldn't review any more actual attempted "machines" , bet they've had millions .

@@stick9648 I expect you are right. And people will never give up, like prospectors never give up looking for gold.

I've never heard of that, that sounds amazing!!

I think you will find that it can carry way more than 200 tons a day. For a brickworks that is a very small amount.

@@mitchellw7118 Tom Scott does a short but interesting video about it: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6RiYXI1Tfu4.html

@@Carnophobe already watched it after the above comment its amazing!!

This technique goes back to the Industrial Revolution. Time Team did an episode where they dug up an old mining complex and it used a system like this. Such a smart idea, taking advantage of the height difference.

It might spin for a very long time, that would depend on the resistances in the system, but it would not spin forever as magnets naturally demagnetise over time.

Then its not perpetual if it stops.

@@FerretyZebra Its an experiment then will the universe stop or will we die out?

Wow ur so deep

@Lex Bright Raven no perpetual implies infinity and if there is an end then there is no infinity

An interesting perspective. What powers the universe?

"You have broken the laws of physics! I shall inform the Physics Police immediately!"

Love a good Simpsons' reference

@@slake9727 Thank God someone got it... I was getting a little worried there

@@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13 This perpetual motion machine she made is a joke, it just keeps going faster and faster!

Definitely clever, but definitely not perpetual motion. He's not in a closed system, he's using the power of the sun (like the clock with the diaphragm)

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Read about something like this years ago. A large tubular wheel with freon inside. Part of the wheel was hidden from the sun in a trench. Expansion and contraction of the gas off balanced it, causing it to slowly move. But with a good amount of torque, the article said.

@@pavementsailor lol. That was one of them. It was wild.

Imagine creating something that work by having heat above freezing,cooling the world at an incredible rate

Hardly something that hard. It is just electromagnetism and if bell is in vacuum or near vacuum it can actually run for very very long time before batteries eventually degrade enough so bell would not have enough charge to push itself. But it is easily more then 90% efficient.

lolol

What’s my age again?

You can buy one like it for a few grand called JLC atmos.

people have made some pretty impressive designs like that over the years. but in the end.... they don't work. the energy you put into turning the magnets over is lost energy every time (or added energy if you use a battery). they're still cool to look at though.

@Chris Chandler The reason the ferris wheel type is so interesting is because inertia is something our brain (still) doesn't automatically calculate when we look at something. Ballistic paths, where something goes up and must come down is easy for us to subconsciously grasp, but "motion"? Our brain only "sees" motion/momentum/torque. But rotational inertia is an odd one, and that's what kills a Ferris Wheel type of Perpetuum Mobile machine.

Nowadays if you don't take the mickey out, you'll get a Cease & Desist injunction filed against you by Disney...haha, we joke, we kid. As for the rest of your story; you're thinking of Rube Goldberg devices, not perpetual motion machines. The former are needlessly complex and often silly engineering behemoths designed to perform a singular, simple, and generally useless task. "Forking" peas would jive perfectly with this description. A perpetual motion device seeks to either create energy from nothing, or seek to operate without inefficiency loss due to heat energy transfer. Which challenge the first 2 laws of thermodynamics, respectively. Neither is possible. The first will always require some sort of external energy source to maintain action. The second will always require again some external energy source to replace what's lost to heat radiation. Thanks for the story sir, but you are in the wrong line. Fill out this form and take a number for line #2.

It reminds me of another attempt at perpetual motion, a cartoon drawn of a buttered piece of bread tied to the back of a cat. Since bread likes to fall with the buttered side down it is basically in a contest with the cat who also tries to land on its feet. Voila, a perpetual motion device. :)

You were a VERY self aware child.lol

Oh, now you mention it, I remember that bit about "machines of the first and second kinds," and the crack about transferring precious metals. I'm sure it was in one of the innumerable books I read when I was a kid, likely an old one.

well the first step in the working of your device is moving matter and wave instantly from point A to point B and the second step is a time machine. I think only with one of those two discovery one would be able to create infinite energy. Portal one on top of the other with a jet of water going down and a generator to aquire the power. Or charge a battery and send it back in time full.

I gotta say, though fiction, at least it's something I can wrap my head around. Like, sure, if those things were attainable then that seems like something that would work. I've read some crap that I almost thought perhaps running head first into a brick wall a couple times before reading might help to make things somewhat believable, but idk, maybe im just weird. I really do judge fiction on it's believability....if it's completely ridiculous and "just because" is the explanation behind said ridiculousness, it just falls flat for me. Well, I've gotten off subject enough. Time to take my Adderall so I don't become perpetual...

@@chrischeetham1652 Yea I completely agree. Even if fiction novels don't have to follow all the laws of physics of the real world, it should at least be self consistent and logical.

@@shujin7024 I can guarantee you that even if we could make portals, keeping them open would use waaay more power than the water turbine could ever generate. (currently the prevailing theories state that opening a wormhole (closest known thing to a portal) would take more energy than exists in the known universe iirc) I actually suspect that that would not only not be a perpetual motion machine, but orders of magnitude less efficient than just boiling the water so that it rises as steam. (The current most common method of power generation)

@@supC_ depends on the exact theory you go with for their creation

Indeed, I think such a device could probably run for a very long time too after the initial push.

The dried sponges with the weights pushing down are going to be considerably less heavy than the sponges with the weight+water that need to be pulled up. We know it wouldn't work, but if we're arguing if it would even be efficient, the answer is still no. There would be no way to make that work well. There'd be a major loss of energy as soon as the first rotation was made.

@@Graphomite w8, I dont think the sponges move up right? its only the water thought "Capillary action" (Yes I had to google the name)

Yea, I have to admit that the sponges make sense to me, too. I *trust* that it wouldn't work, but my mechanics-brain feels like it could get the experiment to work. Pumping water back up must be costly. I also don't know if sponges+weights make any more sense than buckets.

There was a wheel on the cover of a science magazine in 1982 where springs of a particular bronze alloy were arranged to pull on an eccentric. As the spring dipped into slightly warm water at the bottom it either gained or lost tension (can't remember which) that caused the imbalance, which drove the wheel. It had to be under load so it wouldn't spin too fast. The energy released was more than enough to keep the water warm. Over-Unity was achieved.

Sigh.........the energy needed to move the vehicle and thereby power the windmill came from the engine. You gain nothing. The solar angle is a good one, though.

I think with advances in xray, MRI and the likes, we will probably have a look inside in a hundred years or so. But the idea is hilarious. People look inside, and in ten years it's a Star Trek Space Communism with Free Energy for everyone, powered by cold fusion and those little Oxford batteries.

@@TheWinjin or the entirety of Oxford gets “mysteriously destroyed” within a month of it happening

Your dad being Homer Simpson.

Thermodynamics and Motion are two completely different things

Thats was your problem, you tried to use the "pull" power of the magnets..... Should have tried using the "push" instead... Ive desiged a machine that doesnt break known laws of physics, the "push" was one key to make it work. After that, it was just a matter of magnetic field shape, "shielding" and BAM, perpetual motion.

@@three6nine992 No. Magnets have their own energy. That you extract to make it move in any direction. It is just burning of fuel, but worse in every way and completely impractical.

@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 what? I don't understand what you are talking about? Burning fuel to move a magnet? For what purpose?

Residual Energy Displacement From The Big Bang.