Hey everyone! Make sure to check out our new Werner Herzog video if you haven't already for some even wilder production stories! Since this video is picking up lots of views we just wanted to make a correction and a clarification: 1. We made a mistake in our script with the crowd's chants at Kinski during his Jesus tour. Thankfully the clip used has English subtitles that have what the chants actually were (thanks everyone who pointed it out). 2. We aren't putting Woody Allen at the same level as Roman Polanski in terms of allegations and other controversy. They were just two examples of people who don't have a super clean past that some would "separate the art from the artist" to enjoy their films more. Anyways, thanks for checking us out!
you can't unsay it. You just did put Woody in the same boat. Not that I care, but they cases are completely incomparable, and shame on you for treating an innocent man like someone who was already tried.
@@stawmy There is a massive difference between him and Polanski/Kinski. He is a feminist filmmaker with extensive support and a crystal clear reputation from those who've worked with him on over fifty productions, while they are psychopathic serial rapists that can barely conceal their vindictive behaviour.
@@jerzykaltenberg298 Woody Allen was a disgusting serial pedophile. He was not cleared in any possible way…He started with his current wife while she a young teenager. There are so many accounts of him being with and constantly asking out girls 16 and under. Defending him is sycophantic…He was even extraordinarily close with Jeffrey Epstein. Visited the Island, and was photographed with him many times going into, and walking around outside of, his New York apartment building. Often spending the night as his guest…Jesus Christ. Some of you are delusional to the point of believing absurdities because it better suits your ideal narrative. Feminist film maker my ass. The plot of MANY of his films is some pathetic old man chasing after some gorgeous YOUNG female. His movies are vastly overrated.
I doubt that was a threat. Given the stakes and Herzog's own estimation of his film versus the life of his actor and the circumstances, I imagine that he was deadly serious.
It just goes to show you that sometimes a firm hand is the answer to tantrums. Kinski was a lil bitch and he was pushing the boundaries to see how far he could push them - kinda like a very spoiled kid.
And yet he somehow died of natural causes. If he was a worse actor or if the people he worked with were just a tad bit more impulsive, I think the ideas would've become reality
@@juannaym8488 I dont think so, because any film crew would know that at some point they will be done and wont ever have to work with Kinski again. So why go to prison and lose your life?
@@shesh2265 the situations I've heard/read off were often rather isolated. If Werner Herzog were to just shoot Kinski's tent, I don't think he would've gone to jail for it, for example
I've always wondered how Kinski wound up in "For a Few Dollars More" (1965) and what director Sergio Leone thought of him. Kinski's role is tiny; but his display of barely suppressed rage when Lee Van Cleef strikes a match off his ear is memorable in its intensity.
That was somewhat earlier in his career. Moreover, Kinski was in a role in which he could be readily replaced. Sure, he added to the scene, but he wasn't essential to the production the way, say, Eastwood, Van Cleef and Volonte were.
I bet knowing their personas it went like this in their heads: LVC, being out of character a generally good natured laidback nice fellow: heh, look at this guy, he's sure got talent for characters, could really use a chill pill though...this is gonna be a great film, what a fun role this is, the final product I bet is gonna turn out awesome...😊 *Meanwhile inside Klaus Kinski's head, where this no line between the fantasy of their characters or reality at all* "IWILLMOTHERFUCKINGKILLYOU 😳"
That story about Herzog eating a chocolate in front of Kinski just to confuse him really killed me. I guess no one understood Kinski better than Herzog.
@@WindTurbineSyndrome That sounds like some shit you could hear in a documentary from Animal Planet lmao "He eats in front of them to assert its dominance"
@@youegg8905 that's not really the point. They all had very little and shitty food, and luxuries such as chocolate were unavailable. That Herzog pulled out this bit of chocolate and ate it in front of Kinski just dumbfounded him to such an extent that it rendered him speechless for once in his life
He really was insane, not just in an artsy way but properly insane. Just look at some of his interviews, he isnt even able to answer most basic questions without a tantrum
@@flonkplonk1649Why? Because he was to much of a genius to be asked “basic questions?” He was just an actor, a talented one for sure, but the greatest? He was a disturbed and violent man that took himself much too seriously.
@@johnferry7778 Without that talent, he would've been locked up. A lot of geniuses used to get passes back then. Today, not so much (Ezra Miller) but who knows.
@@mosquerajoseph7305 true but, they wouldn't be the firsts or last good films to suffer the wrath of cancel culture due to the problematic nature of their protagonist or directors, that's why it's good to remind people to watch it for the other people who put their heart and soul into them.
@@salazarmandragora cancel culture doesn’t decide what you want to watch. Besides ppl or movies haven’t been actually cancelled successfully since like 2018 lmao. That term exists as an umbrella term industry heads use to demonize criticism of their behavior and reevaluation of older films
If the man was diagnosed with psychopathy, that’s literally all you need to know for his behavior to make sense. He was a tyrant because he was physically incapable of feeling normal levels of empathy toward other human beings. His habits of self-promotion and raging at the slightest loss of attention are also clear signals of this syndrome.
He was most definitely not a psychopath, he was actually misdiagnosed with psychopathy. He was really hyperemotional and psychopaths are actually underemotional and don't feel frustration and rage, the psychopath's rage/anger only lasts 1 second at best. He also had suicidal attempts and cried something psychopaths actually never do since psychopaths do crocodile fake tears to coax and sensitivitize an audience that is not already against him/her. That's the main difference, he literally had no reason to shed crocodile tears those were genuine tears from his emotional tension. Psychopaths aren't emotional, they are literally feeling few and sparse feeling and even in blunted manner That guy was a borderline/cyclothymiac.
@@NS-kq3yy Based on his erratic, aggressive behaviour it is likely that he was misdiagnosed but it’s wrong to claim that psycopaths don’t feel or express emotions. That’s a myth stemming from the sterotype depicting psycopaths as stone cold killers. They can be, and often are, very emotional. They experience enormous anger, joy , resentment, lust etc. It all stems from a selfish, egotistical point of view, though. Since they are more or less incapable of feeling empathy they don’t care about people around them but they are very sensitive about their own ego. If they don’t get what they feel they deserve or if they are not treated the way they want, they can very easily become enraged and lash out towards people. It’s also wrong to claim that they don’t cry real tears. Basically suggesting that they are always scheming and manipulating so if they cry it must be ”crocodile tears” meant to decieve someone. They might not feel empathy towards other people but they have huge empathy towards themselves. Again, feeling mistreated and not acknowledged can sometims trigger huge emotional responses. Since they are indifferent towards other people they often lie, manipulate and threaten, sure. They can also be very, very dangerous. It is wrong, however, to claim they don’t feel or express emotions. The two terms ”psycopath” and ”sociopath” are sometimes hard to differentiate since they both stem from a severe lack of empathy. In general though, psycopaths tend to have better control of their internal feelings and they have no conscience wheras sociopaths are more impulsive and might have a rudimentary conscience (even if they usually don’t listen to it). This ability to, when needed, hide their emotions is what had caused people in general to assume they don’t have feelings at all, which is untrue.
@@NS-kq3yythis is false. Sociopathy (and yes, sociopath as the modern usage of psychopath got conflated with the definition of sociopath) as in Antisocial/dissocial personality disorder, can absolutely feel frustration and rage, and can be highly emotional. They simply lack the ability of empathy and usually has severe lack of "self-regulating" instincts like shame or fear. To put it in another way, they lack the instinctive functions to form a "moral compass". Thus resulting in their emotions being very prone to taking abusive forms and being highly egocentric, while generally showing a lack of emotion about things that don't relate to themselves.
@@heimdal8I just realized you basically already wrote what I now wrote. But I can add that, first of all, psychopath/sociopath are no longer used as legitimate terms in the profession. And secondly, i believe the terms were conflated to become synomous. When most people these days talk about psychopath or sociopath, they are referring to the original definition of sociopath. The actual definition of "psychopathy" in the old days was an umbrella term that spanned multiple mental disorders. It was basically just the generic term for "mental illness". In fact, the word psycho-pathy itself translates as "disease/illness of the mind/soul". EDIT: which I might add, makes me question the diagnosis claimed in this video. Because the guy very specifically states "diagnosed psychopath as in antisocial personality disorder", but ASD wasn't coined until 1968, and previous definitions of this particular type of traits were largely referred to as sociopathic. So depending on the time of diagnosis, and if his diagnosis was listed as "psychopath", it wouldn't be referring what to the guy in the video thinks it does. Making that part of the video a bit of a misinformation
In his own way, Herzog was just as crazy. Shooting movies in active volcanos and lifting river steamboats through the jungle, etc. And usually he did these projects against the advice of "experts", afaik. The key difference is that Herzog's craziness doesn't manifest as manic, or violent behavior.
I respect Werner Herzog even more now, he willingly worked with Kinski, maybe because he was one of the only directors who really understood how to work with Kinski. For example making him rage and starting to film his angry silence afterwards is unconventional, funny and brilliant.
Idk how far does that go? How many Jerry Luis type scumbags do we enable to become rich, famous and powerful just because their talented? Separating art from the artist is one thing but I don’t think we should prop up these figures like they did nothing wrong just because they gave amazing performances
@@byHexted Go to a museum and look at a Caravaggio and tell me the human race isn't just a little more worthy by exhibiting the work of a slimeball. Listen to a Wagner Opera or watch The Wizard of Oz and remember that horrible people created those things. The entire history of art and sport are full of these people. All of them should have been prosecuted for their crimes and their crimes should also be remembered, but their achievements can stand and do separate. The only thing I find vile is for people aware of their actual crimes to enable them during their lives.
@@byHextedthis is more revelant now than ever, just look at Ezra Miller, WB literally sank millions into buying silence about his outbursts and "antics"
@@tomasrivero6423 How about Josh Whedon, the self-proclaimed 'feminist supporter' who was an absolute dick against his subordinates, getting physical with James Marsters because he couldn't kill spike off in Buffy, booted Charisma Carpenter off Angel for getting pregnant and cherry on top: not allowed to be alone in a room with Michelle Trachtenberg during her work on Buffy (really, what the fuck was going on there?)
Growing up in Germany born 63, Kinski was a household name. His ability as actor was great respected, but as a human being hated by many. Nobody wanted to interview him, or invited him to TV studios or public events, unless specific to honour him. I meet him when I was working in a hotel he visited. He was actually a good customer, but bit restlessness.
These examples do not at all encapsulate the diagnosis of ASPD to me ( Anti Social Personality Disorder) I would have to know more but the explosive and unpredictable behavior could easily be from mental health diagnosis such as BPD ( Borderline Personality Disorder) or Bipolar Disorder, as examples. But, I would not say from what I heard that he meets criteria for ASPD. I am a mental health provider so this is army statement based on the limited information I have heard here. I am not formally diagnosing him though.
Any cab driver in London can curse in 7 languages, once, a London cabbie called someone out in Farsi, so i asked him what he said, he said it means "your mother is a goat' in Arabic , LOL
@@jesustyronechrist2330 well, it takes some kind intelligence to learn 5 different languages. Being brilliant at one thing doesn’t mean you can’t be an absolute moron in other things. Just look at Elon Musk
@@Vampirlestat84 Naah, just living in different places long enough and you'll pick up the languages. You won't be writing legal documents, but sure can swear and small talk. It really is not that impressive except maybe to those who only speak 1 language and then find learning another one impossible because all they have is Duolingo lmao.
Its really hard to give in into the fascination of Kinski after stories surfaced he was a rapist, pedophile and even using his own daughters. Pola Kinski wrote a book about her traumatic childhood in 2013 and Nastasia Kinski was always saying her dad was a creep without criminl evidential details. Kinski was protected by a system of cowards who choose to look away. Klaus Kinski is/was one of the biggest monsters in the industry.
Yes in that sense I don't respect his contually being hired because his employees become enablers then his daughter got no justice like Woody Allen if the abuser is popular the victim gets blamed instead.
@@annalisavajda252 Especially back in the old days studios and the film industry used to protect the stars and actors and carefully managed their public image and did everything they could to cover up scandals. These things are thankfully now becoming more widely known.
Has things changed? To a degree. These days it is possible to get more help as a victim. Despite many abusers attempting to roll back protections for victims.
*Daher ja auch seine Wut, er ist im Grunde wütend gegen sich selber, weil er genau weiß, dass er kein richtiger Schauspieler ist, aber gegen sich selber wütend zu sein, ist nicht wirklich vorteilhaft, daher die WUT gegen alle anderen ;)* *Es hat schon seinen Grund, warum er immer drittklassige Filme gemacht hatte ;)*
True. He may also have had kind of a napoleon complex as he was "only" 1,73m in height. Not realy that short, but it might have added to his demeanor, as his physical appearance clashed with his huge ego. The most on point description of Kinsky I have ever heard was in a rather unknown german TV documentation, where a friend (not Herzog, I think) said about him: >What people seem to fail to realize about Kinsky is that he was, and always has been, an "Angst-beisser"...< -a term that describes a small, beaten down dog, wich snaps and lashes at everyone and everything around it - due to being in constant terror and anxiety his whole life. This description always stuck with me for some reason.
One "AcTuAlLy" thing i'd like to point out: the natives weren't afraid of Kinski. They we're afraid of Herzog. In their culture only weak and fearful people scream and yell. Throughout his outburst Herzog remianed silent which terrified the natives. So out of respect they offered to kill Kinski.
I had David Schmoeller (the director of Crawlspace) as one of my film professors and did a project with Kinski’s daughter in 2013, during which I even gave her a ride home one time. Neither had anything good to say about Klaus.
Lucky you, she was probably the first actress i fell in love with as a teenager. And if she had nothing good to say about him, after hearing this, i don't blame her!
@@nelsonx5326 Nastassja - it was a flower show episode for RAI about what flowers she likes the most. We filmed it at Richard Harrison’s house in Malibu and it was all in Italian. Since she spoke it fluently (Klaus was largely absent from her life as she was raised in Italy by her mother) I had to edit the whole episode with her translating and making editorial decisions over my shoulder over 2-3 sessions. She was in her mid 50’s at the time and was nice enough to then come to the premiere of EUROCRIME (which I co-produced) at the Chinese theater.
People can't distinguish art and acting from pathological narcissism. From a man who has an 1 years old emotional development, if not even less than this. Could he act? Maybe, but people's opinion on his performance is clearly exaggerated. It's a shame no one had balls to actually do something about him,
@@fredfish4316 Common sense and basic logic. He was perfectly capable of it as an individual, and his other daughter has experienced sexualization since little as well. Just abuse was directed at this woman alone. I guess a good psychiatrist would be enough to confirm or deny her accusations. Yet it is not something that can change things or do anything positive for her.
I worked with KInski on Timestalkers a bad B movie. He wanted a chocolate bar but couldn't remember the name of it. Everyone was trying to get it, I yelled out Mars bar! He said that's it! He picked me up and swung me around like I was a little kid.
@@waynereiffenstein7153 XD you act like he was telling a CRAZY story or something. kinski litteraly worked with thousands of people and he was telling the most basic story i ever heard "kinsky wanted some chocolate". i wonder how you act when people tell you actual crazy stories XDXD must be blast talking with you
No, he chose raping his own daughter from the age of 5 to 19 years old! That is the only thing we should remember about this incestuous pedophile monster.
@@desisdosis473 maybe Herzog lied though. Why would you work with and live with someone who’s absolutely fucking insane? He continually hired him after the dude destroyed his house and sat in a room with leaves up to his knees, and could barely act without disrupting and destroying the set? Seems like he knew the dude was nuts and fabricated a lot of shit after he died to drum up more controversy.
@@deinvaterduhs no doubt he was insane but I just have a hard time believing things coming from seemingly an equally insane director. Bipolar maniac yes but it just seems outlandish to continually use and live with someone like that and also dispute their entire childhood story post death. Idk all around just a nutty story where you wonder where everyone’s heads were at.
@@PlutoTheGod You could not come up with "money" as an answer? It's like there are no Kinski's today, take a look at Tom Cruise or more recently Ezra Miller and those are just the tip of the iceberg. Not all great actor are nuts but it definitely happens more with actors then in any other field of work.
Kinski's audience insultations are so notorious in Germany that in recent years a very talented comedian named Max Giermann has had great success with Kinski impersonations, basically just insulting everyone and anyone. Positively hilarious.
There’s a parody of Burden of Dreams in the show Documentary Now. It’s a two part episode in season 4 called Soldier of Illusion and the actor who parodies Kinski is great
The sexual molestation accusations make his role in Aguirre even more creepy, especially when you think how he was obsessed with his daughter in the movie.
The same can be said for Cobra Verde, some of the girls he shares screen with towards the later part of the movie look absolutely uncomfortable as he 'fondles' them. The same in his scenes with his son in Paganini where he almost slobbers over his son to try to show his love for him. It was uncomfortable to watch and a badly made movie. Generally, love him or hate him, he was a scene stealing actor for sure, and one I was fascinated with to the point of obsession for a while, until I read his autobiography... that put me completely off him. He came across as a vile human being who was possessive, egotistical, and regarded others as lesser beings in the scheme of things. But he was never uninteresting. I am sure he would be pleased that we are here discussing him years after his death! He's still getting our attention!
@@davidpage3893 What? From a heart attack at the age of 65 in his nice California home? After a long & successful career? Yeah sounds like real Karma for a psychopath that raped his daughter.
It’s amazing that this guy somehow managed to get cast into so many films despite being completely untamed. Why even bother hiring him anymore once his reputation for his outlandish outbursts became widely known?
Because the acting word is a collection of damaged, narcissistic weirdos, sniffing their own farts and keeping up appearances amongst the public eye, while giving hollow praise and rubbing each other's belly Richard A. Rowland, head of Metro Pictures, apparently said, "The inmates are taking over the asylum." (when United Artists was formed) He probably was more right than people seem to get
@@demarcdegasol Seperate the art from the artist does not apply in this case at all, what are you even on about? That phrase is for when an artist has done something controversial, not when the artists literal insanity actively hinders the creation of the movie
@@BalimSwogat I think one because Herzog was making movies where Kinski's real life character was paralleled by his role in the film, egomaniacal monsters sinking themselves and everyone else with them. Also never underestimate how much a fascinating face can lure a director, especially one such as Herzog. I don't know, I personally can understand why he chose Kinski for some of his films, despite the insanity he brought.
@@Nightdare There are plenty of well grounded, normal people in acting. The stereotype you're alluding to has little basis in fact and only applies to a handful of actors. Let’s look at the most acclaimed actors in history. Katherine Hepburn, Meryl Streep, Ingrid Bergman, Daniel Day-Lewis, Frances McDormand, Spencer Tracy, Walter Brennan, Denzel Washington, Jack Lemmon, Cate Blanchett, Dustin Hoffman, Jane Fonda, Rebert De Niro, Tom Hanks, Anthony Hopkins, Maggie Smith, Michael Caine, Gene Hackman, Glenda Jackson, Jodie Foster, Sally Field etc are all relatively normal people considering their celebrity. In fact when they are accused of being weird it’s usually because they shun publicity and the celebrity lifestyle. What all time great actor was a narcissistic weirdo? Marlon Brando? That’s more because he was lazy, grew tired of acting very quickly and couldn’t give a shit. Most of his on set antics were just him taking the piss and having a laugh at the expense of everyone else. Tom Cruise is a fucking lunatic I’ll give you that one.
Kinski as Toht in “Raiders” has always been my favorite “what if” in film history. Fun fact: After seeing them show down in “For a few dollars more”, I looked for any other films starring both Kinski and Lee Van Cleef, as I was convinced they were the biggest badasses in B-movie history. There was one - “Codename: Wildgeese” - a godawful Rambo knockoff, at the time completely unavailable in the USA (this was in the early 2000s - it’s probably streaming somewhere by now). Through my college’s film school, I tracked down a PAL copy and convinced my professor to blow a solid 1/5th of our tiny yearly budget to have it converted under the pretense of it being a historically significant addition for our growing rare film collection (I also had this done for Kinski’s “Paganini”, the only film he directed, also unavailable at the time - also, completely insufferable). I’ll never forget the look my professor gave me midway through the initial screening (for an audience of 3), and I’m pretty sure we never spoke again. Best of all: despite being the lead hero and villain respectively, Van Cleef and Kinski NEVER ONCE appear onscreen together, despite ostensibly being in the same scene several times, with Van Cleef even using a helicopter machine gun to kill a flamethrower-wielding Kinski in the climax. It was all worth it just to be able to type the second half of that sentence just now.
I remeber a film from the 70's called "the wild geese" with Harrison, Caine, and a few other well known Brit actors. This was about ex-military mercenaries in Africa. But in the westerns,Van Cleef was superb, the chemistry between him and Eastwood was just amazing, i love those spaghetti westerns.
Kinski I think starred in a horror / thriller film called "Venom" about a black mamba snake and hostage sceanrio from 1981. He also starred in the comedy of "Buddy Buddy" as a doctor of a weird institute and was really good in it.
Klaus lived about two miles from us in Lagunitas (Marin County, north of San Francisco). This was the early 80s. I remember his white Jeep with the "Nanhoi" plates, he even gave me a ride a couple of times. He wasnt "bubbly," but he was always civil, relatively soft spoken...
I think “separating the art from the artist” only works when the artist had passed or can no longer make money or status off of the art. Like in this case. Otherwise we’re just lining the pockets of terrible people.
1:35 Kinski was NOT born in Poland to Polish-Germans. He was Born in the Free City of Danzig, a formerly German City under Mandate of the League of Nations.
Kiniski had a HILARIOUS role in an indie Sci fi low budgeter - the filmmakers prob getting him cheap so they could “use his name to help- sell their movie.” Kiniski pretty much strolls around a spaceship spitting out dialogue between gobbles ( deli wrapped sandwiches in space?????!?!?!).……Brilliant. I forget the movie’s title in this moment.
Android most likely - Creature is hilarious because the first thing Kinski does is grope a female astronaut… and that he must have been kicked off the film as by the end of the movie he’s obviously played by a double.
Kinski in Android has a great line about the new breed ("The perfect working class") but when his character tries to grab the female android's rack, she stops him. AI, an early screen parable.
As an actor, I find Kinski to be a fascinating character study. I saw a special screening of the movie 'Creature' at Tarantino's theater, back in 2017. The filmmakers were there to discuss behind the scenes stories, and they did not have good things to say of Kinski, except for the fact that he gave the most compelling performance in the movie. Other than that, they said that when Kinski was in LA for the filming, he would frequently go to the local Junior High schools to pick up young girls
Well, his daughter Pola accused him of year-long rape and sexual abuse. He was a monster. A fascinating monster, sure. There's a reason why people put up with him. But a rotten and sick human being.
@@vasvas8914 I mean he was off the clock... How many bosses stop their employees from doing what they want to do, off the clock? Especially someone as strong-willed as Klaus... Filmmakers wanted him in the movie, & Hollywood's MO is to turn a blind eye due to pressure making movies... People in Hollywood got away with a lot back in the 80's... It was a much different time than it is now, for obvious reasons. Today it would be easier to pull up the school's CCTV footage and go public with it... Even to this day, much of the local law enforcement & media is in the pocket of Hollywood elites...
Imagine the outright insanity it takes to make a movie with a guy who intentionally tried to shoot you with a handgun. These people were not alright in their minds.
I remember there was a Red Skelton joke he told where he describes going to a hardware store to get some goods but ending up leaving in terror. "Well, I was in line but I realised the guy in front of me was Klaus Kinski and he was buying an axe. I decided to come back later". That's paraphrased because I can't remember the exact words but it definitely gets a laugh as if Klaus Kinski was in front of me buying an axe, Id definitely be going home right away.
It was a doozy. Errol Flynn wrote a very entertaining one, if you are looking for a slightly less demented read. I don't know if it's entirely reliable... but there's a certain degree of frankness and self-awareness. His life was... a lot. Check out "My Wicked, Wicked Ways" (but get a later edition - it will contain material left out of the original out of legal concerns). It was technically ghostwritten, but pretty much his words from interviews at the end of his life.
As an actor, his performences are legendary. Not just from the Herzog movies. ...Before that he was a household name in the german Edgar Wallace and Winnetou films. During one Edgar Wallace production he was supposed to shoot a scene with him and actor Heinz Drache, showing them in a conversation. While filming he suddenly jumped forward started to strangle Drache. The director was like "Stop! Cut! Klaus what are you doing?" Kinski looked bewildered and said "Pardon me, but i was thinking about the scene, when i have to strangle him"
Her first major role was in a german TV crime show in 1977, called Tatort. The episode „Reifezeugnis“ was directed by Wolfgang Petersen. She was 16 at the time and played a student who had an affair with her teacher. Of course it was scandalous, but her performance was stunning and made her a star.
I love that Kinski was diagnosed with clinical psychopathy and anti-personality disorder, so during the filming of Aguirre he really did not care about cooperating until he looked Herzog dead in the eye and realised he wasn't joking when he said he would kill them both. The tables flipped, he realised Werner was just as crazy as he was, so his sense of self preservation kicked in and he actually cooperated.
Herzog comes across as kinda insane himself, but in a completely opposite way: Whereas Kinski was loud, obnoxious and in your face, Herzog is always quiet and almost *too* calm. I never once heard him raise his voice even a tiny bit.
@@puturro he means an actual film with actors playing their roles. Not the documentary. And I agree. That would probably be quite good if they got the right people involved.
I hope in the future, AI can create a Tarantino movie starring Klaus Kinski and Gary Busey. I would gladly pay triple the ticket price just to see such a masterpiece in the theater.
It is hard to tell where Kinski as a person ended and Herzogs stories of him started. Both liked to create "tales". Herzog and Kinski were basically two sides of the same coin. Herzog was calculating and in control while Kinski was emotional and unstable. Both were more or less high functioning psychopaths. Think of "American Psycho" without the actual killings. They weren't crossing the line but dancing on it instead. Herzog was a Genius as was Kinski.
When i was a teenager i found out about him from Herzog's Nosferatu and everytime i found something that had him on DVD i got it. He's really good and fascinating to watch in many different roles, and have that hypnotic quality about him, but yeah, he seemed to have no filter to the types of movies he made. And what a shock it was when i saw "My Best Fiend" and heard about his daughters years later...
If you want to know how great Kinski was, watch "Dr Zhivago". He takes a bit part with a couple of lines and takes over the screen. It's one of the most memorable parts of a great film.
That's right! I do remember him in that movie. My mom still watches that every year around Christmas. It's a great movie, but as a child it was so long. Kinski gave me creepy vibes when I was little, and I would wonder if he was acting or being himself.
People say Kinski was anger, hate and rage fuelled. But for Kinski, it was merely a Thursday afternoon at Yoga class! A simple temper tantrum, for Kinski, involved running past everyone and locking himself in the bathroom. Then, systematically destroying the entire bathroom, back to bare brick work. And stacking the rubble, in a large pile, at the centre of the room. Then, after about three days and when there is silence. The bathroom door is kicked in. And Kinski is standing, naked, at the top of the rubble pile. Giving his best 'side eye' at those who kicked in the door. With his arm outstretched, pointing at them accusingly and screaming "Mongoloids!!!!"
I saw him in LAX in summer 1986. I was a kid, with my sister and dad, and we recognized him from something but didn't know his name. He was sitting like ten feet away from us, facing us. We had seen him in 'Venom' but couldn't remember it right then. His hair was short and golden, much like in 'Creature'. He went into the gift shop and I casually followed him a few minutes later, hoping to hear somebody say his name. Glad I didn't approach him, but it does make me wonder if anybody ever had the balls to go up to him saying "oh you're that one dude from that one thing".
“This call consisted of an hour of inarticulate screaming before Herzog even realised who it was” = Kinski accepting a role via the phone. I can’t stop laughing, what a maniac
That TV series 'Documentary Now' did a brilliant two-part pastiche of Hertzog and Kinski's relationship. It touches on so many aspects of their relationship and some of the productions they made together.
Absolutely astounding thanks so much for sharing this. I will definitely check out those docs & shorts. I did not know most of this about Kinski or Herzog. Insane to think these things ever happened.
He was also the lead actor in a western titled "A Fury at Sundown" (sometimes coming under different titles) as a character called Gary Hamilton who had been wrongly jailed for years then seeks revenge.
That Woyczeck mention gave me PTSD of my finals…people who haven’t attempted to read all of Woyczeck can’t fathom what a chaotic play it really is. Didn’t make me fail though, so I think most people can power through the text. But man it is a ROUGH read, because nothing makes sense.
Seriously, thank you for being one of the few who agrees with separating the art from the artist. No matter how much of a piece of human garbage an artist might be, it shouldn't stop us from enjoying masterpieces. Cancel culture is a freaking curse.
. Bella morale quella che tende a giustificare i crimini in nome dell'arte. Questo significa sacrificare le vite umane all'arte. Invece di ostracizzare certe persone incoraggiamo il loro stile di vita e ne diventiamo complici.
im gonna be honest, Bram Stoker's Dracula is the best cuz it showed all sides of him and a lot more complexity. Bella Lugosi is famous but definitely not the best, Nosferatu original is good, and Christopher Lee is fantastic, i've heard ppl praise Frank Langella too. But idk, Coppola just ties up all the best elements of the prior 60 years of Dracula interpretations, and condenses and refines it. Gary Oldman is a brilliant actor, and despite being a ghoulish dracula you feel sympathy too, and he doesn't have to overact to be notable. Tbf we've not had a decent dracula film since the 90s
@GuineaPigEveryday I want to love bram stoker's dracula the best because it does have so much going for it, but ultimately I find its change of tone goes a bit too far (it's a great style for itself but very different from the dracula book, other films capture that tone better) and the tragic romance being treated so sympathetically despite dracula being a monster is not to my tastes personally. I prefer the 1979 dracula personally despite that also being quite different from the book.
@@GuineaPigEveryday I've never liked Bram Stoker's Dracula because it tried to humanize Dracula far too much, Stoker's Count in the novel was an animalistic predator closer to a rapist and was the Victorian equivalent of the Anti-Christ and had about as much empathy for Mina and Lucy as a cat does with a mouse that it's playing with in it's paws and viewed them as little more than items on his food chain. As to Dracula films the 1922 Nosferatu, The Bela Lugosi Dracula, and the Christopher Lee Horror of Dracula are my three favorites, (although I also loved William Dafoe's Shadow of the Vampire) but I'm really looking forward to both Reinfeld (haven't seen it yet) and The Demeter.
Aguirre, Der Zorn Gottes is arguably both Kinski's best and Herzog's finest work. What the crew did with that paddle steamer in Fitzcarraldo, though... both utterly mad and incredibly impressive.
The joke was that Herzog himself was the real Fitzcarraldo. After all, he got a crew of natives to pull a steamship over a mountain with ropes and logs. No special effects, no miniature sets, no post-production tricks, just pure crazy.
Well, he's still known here in Germany for his outbursts and talent, so he must have done something right. Most people here would get the joke if you did a Kinski imitation, that's how famous he is many years after his death. Very recognizable, like a cartoon of a man.
Good Lord, can you imagine a contemporary Hollywood production trying to cope with Kinski on set, especially in this day and age when so many movies rely upon CGI? He would've torn the green screen to shreds with his bare hands!
Considering how Kinski vehemently rejected being given a role in Raider's Of The Lost Ark by Steven Spielberg and even criticized the movie without watching it first, it's probably not even going past recommendations for him.
@@caringheart34 To be fair, the role Spielberg had in mind for him was a one-note Nazi thug. I doubt even oodles of cash would've convinced Kinski to come aboard.
The part where you list some of his actions and then just add "What a guy" nonchalantly had me burst out laughing. That really is all you can really say about Kinski without going into a full rant about him... "What a guy..."
We don't really know what happened with the daughters. There never was an investigations. The allegations were made long after Kinski's death. It's okay if you want to believe them, but you probably didn't even did any further research. Greetings from Germany :=)
There's no proof of that. She might have made the whole thing up because she hated him. To do that after someone has died is just abhorrent. I never trust people who pull that shit.
@@gimmethepinkelephant3685 Yeah, some people even do it to get attention. To be invited to talkshows. To sell books. I know it sounds sick, but we always forget how often this happens because we're so shocked by the idea that our compassion can be manipulated that way. Greetings from Germany :=)
My one regret, as a vintage movie collector, was trading in my VHS copy of Crawlspace. I guess I was in the wrong mood because I didn't like it, traded it and then caught it again 5 years later. At that point I fell in Love with it and even wrote a spiritual successor, about 20 years ago. But there's only one man to play that role, so the script sits in a special place. Cheers from Canada
I'd argue that the appeal of Kinski to non-german audiences is because we know that he was insane. So divorcing the person from the actor isn't really relevant here. He was both the actor and the person at the same time. He might be the one case in modern cinema where he was a known child abuser but people are still willing to watch his films just to watch an enigmatically engaging insane person. Despite knowing what he did he is still weirdly, morbidly beguiling to watch in a way that say, Woody Allen or Kevin Spacey, is challenging now. I'm not saying that's right, but he was such a unique actor and such a deeply strange and troubling person his madness is kind of fascinating.
8:10 Calling Herzog to accept a film role: "This call consisted of over an hour of inarticulate screaming before Herzog realized who it was." I'm dying! I've always been a fan of Herzog's documentaries, but I have new respect for a man willing to listen to screams and wails for that long in order to figure out the meaning behind the madness. Crazy people are sometimes the most gift artists. And when I say crazy in this sense, I mean highly unbalanced but with enough genius to get away with their behavior most of the time.
Kinski is definitive proof of that old saying "The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success." He only got as far as he did because of his vigorous training regiment. He was a terrific actor in spite of his insanity, not because of it. Otherwise, he was a vile and reprehensible excuse of a human being. If he had been born just 1 generation later, right around the time as the internet was becoming a thing, he would've been blacklisted ages ago as no sane director -- and even a few insane ones -- would put up with his rampant tantrums.
I remember reading about him and making of movies in Empire magazine years ago and literally falling off my chair, grabbing my ribs laughing hysterically. So it was all true
Yep. He fucked his kid daughter from the age of five, and terrorized her sister with fear as well. He should not be celebrated or spoke of in any way, To do that at all is beyond disgusting, but to your own daughter?! It’s the most despicable act a man can commit…
Hertzog said they sat down during a walk in the woods one day and came up with ridiculous things to include in Kinski's biography. They met when Werner was a child and his mother was running a boarding house. Kinski ended up staying there after the war and became friends with Werner.
This whole video slipped down the drain with the mention of him raping his own daughter repeatedly. If he were still alive, I would hope to see him in jail for life.
I remember reading some interview in which Herzog was a bit sardonic about Marlon Brando as an actor and thought that Brando was overrated in comparison to Kinski and everything he had gone through with the man in his lifetime, a comparison of the two actors would be interesting but probably would also be pointless.
Kinski's character in Nosferatu was called Prince Orlock. Stoker's wife wouldn't allow Dracula to be used in the original version so it had to be changed.
The count's name is Orlok in the 1922 original, but Dracula had fallen into the public domain when Herzog made his adaptation, so he used the original character names from the book.
I wonder if there's a commentary to be found in the name of Count Orlok. Oorlog is the Dutch word for war. Could this be the spectre of war descending on the people like a vampire? 🤔
Kinski has a small role in Dr. Zhivago, he’s a political prisoner that the main character and his family encounter when they flee Moscow on a train after the Russian Revolution occurs. He only gets a handful of lines, but you’re immediately drawn to him with the way he delivers his lines.
@@suqmadique9762 Holy sh** that would be awesome!!! The height advantage goes to Harrison. But hey - Mike Tyson was almost allways the shorter fighter, so...
@@superdrunkdnb kinski has this animalistic side to him, but apparently he is aware of people fighting back so maybe its all just show from him but then again, thats what i would pay to find out :D
this was RAD! I’ve never heard of either of these men although one of the films was familiar to me. I already have one queued up and am excited to watch…..not for Klaus’s sake of course but for the enjoyment of film. thanks for opening up an undiscovered world in a very palatable and intriguing way!
I’m glad you stated right off the bat that Klaus was one of the greatest actors of the twentieth century, because I recently made the same clam in a comment section on another video about him, and was instantly attacked for my opinion in the replies.
