The Most Powerful Characters In Gaming Ever # 33 

Imagine being the forces of evil and getting obliterated by an arrogant squid, a cowardly dragon and a samurai that all somehow refuse to take any meaningful damage.

>tanking crits from Ramladu's mace lmao, Domingo is *ABSURD.* Love that little guy.

I swear you’re one of the most underrated gaming channels out there

Domingo: *Is strong early in the game* Bleu: *Is strong late in the game* Musashi: *Basically just destroys those two in every way after he joins*

Domingo: BEEFY MAGIC JELLY BABY Funfact: each character has a "bait Value" the lowest being the most targeted. Max has 1, but Domingo has 2 while others are higher

The legendary Shining Force map theme returns. Best whoisthisgit soundtrack piece to date.

I dont get why some guides say that domingo sucks because he doesnt scale. Hes a flying mage tank, what more can you ask?

Ah yes, the squid partner that all Bloopers and Omanyte aspire to one day become.

This has to be the longest time i've ever waited for a video

This just in! A single Tentacool sweeps the whole game of Shining Force!

Videos about Shining Force in 2021? This is why I'm subbed.

Only game where you can use tentacruel, a dragon, and Genji from Overwatch all in one

finally my life has meaning once again

I love how the stat bar for each unit gets wider as they level up and get HP/MP. Visible growth.

Me looking at thumbnail Is that Domingo? Yes. My favorite flying blizzard boi.

Who Would Win: The Literal Final Boss or some infant blooper

Other candidates for the strongest in Shining Force are Hanzou, with great stats and cool spells to boot. He's even better in the GBA remake, joining earlier (Chapter 5) and can promote. The other is Narsha (GBA remake exclusive), great stat growths and some of the best support spells in the game. Also, honorable mentions to Zuika and Mawlock (GBA exclusive characters too).

The AI likes to target Domingo because it's programmed to prioritize non-promoted characters over promoted ones (on the assumption that promoted units are stronger), and Domingo never promotes. Of course, he doesn't have to. Also, you shouldn't promote at level 10. You can, but the characters won't get as strong as they could be. Better off to wait until level 20 (which is the max level before the game stops levelling unpromoted characters); the resulting characters will be MUCH stronger. Actually, the Kane fight is good for this, because there's a group of gargoyles near the entrance that will give unpromoted characters max experience on every kill, so it's easy to grind the characters up to level 20 and then promote and grind them a bit more to catch up.

So I would like to answer some of the questions you asked in the video about the game, and backing my information is not only over a decade of playing the game off and on myself (since I love it and grew up with the game as a kid), but also in more recent years I've been a member of the website shining force central and using the sf1editor tool to crack open the code of the game and make my own personal enhanced version of shining force for fun. Because of this, I think I can answer the three questions you had. 1) why was domingo so focussed down all the time? Well, the ai I'm the game has various flags for how it moves, and attacks, as well as a priority system for attack targets. It basically targets magic casters, and flyers more often then normal ground troops, domingo is both, so he gets both priority bonuses on enemy targeting. As you pointed out though, Max (the default name for the main character) always has maximum priority when enemies look for attack targets. 2) does the samurai have a higher than normal crit chance? Yes and no. Crit chance is a hidden stat for each character in the game, some are higher, some are lower, but all of them are in the single digit range. His us marginally higher than the rest of the cast, but his weapon, the katana, actually boosts crit chance significantly, which is why he seems so much higher than normal. It's his weapon, not just him. The doom blade also has increased crit chance, though not as much as katana. 3) how exactly does agility work, and does it just let you go first in turn order? To answer the second part first, no, it actually determines how many turns you get over the course of a battle. The exact formula is unknown to me and isn't that clear, but generally, units with higher ability get more turns, more often, rather than getting turns first. If I had to take an educated guess based on my own expirence and observations, the formula is probably something like "take a random number from 0-127, find everyone with agility equal to or higher than that random number, then pick the unit that has taken the least turns so far from that group". Here's a laid out example. Let's say the units on the board all have around 20-40 agility, except for one guy with a speed ring who has 60. First turn, it picks 45 as it's random number. It would then see who has 45 or higher agility. Only the 60 does, so he gets a turn. His turn finishes, then the rng rolls a 70. Reroll. Rolls a 12, it then sees who has 12 or higher agility, which is everyone, and picks someone from the group that has taken the least turns so far this battle (so anyone except the 60). That turn finishes, roll again, this time it gets a 57, once again only the 60 is higher, so he gets the turn. You begin to see what I mean. Of course, that answer for number 3 is not super definitive, but from my observations it's how it works, and is especially noticable early on with hans, and much later on with the ninja in the bush

I now imagine domingo just doing the middle flipper to the enemies

and I was just watching the weakest character in gaming #5 ...time sure flies

Finally I’ve been waiting ages for this specific character

There was also Arthur, who (like Bleu) has that Magikarp power, and (like Domingo) has magic (though he only has the first level of each offensive spell), making it easy to level him.

Ah, yes, Domingo. I wholeheartedly agree that he's one of the best characters in Shining Force. One of my other favorites that you didn't mention is the old man in the flying machine. He's delightful.

A baby squid, a timid dragon and a badass samurai join your army... man i thought id seen anime as fuck before but THIS just moved the goal posts!

pfft I just can't the thumbnail with the funny squid face is too good

I saw the thumbnail and something tickled parts of my memory; I hadn’t thought about SF in years. Yes, Domingo, Zylo and Bleu were all staples, but I vaguely remember the samurai (I think I got him, but I don’t remember using him much).

What about Hanzou? In the Genesis version, you get him as soon as you set foot inside Runefaust and search the bush with the flowers on it. In the GBA version, you get him by searching around Waral I think. I may be wrong on that, though.

11:08 He’s still just a baby, but maybe eventually he’ll undergo some sort of metamorphosis

I love this channel! I really love gaming history, and this channel shows me so many interesting little quirks about all sorts of games. I've seen a lot of games I've never heard of prior on this channel.

Idk why but Musashi really reminds me of Ryoma from Fire Emblem Fates. Ryoma can slaughter maps and so can Musashi by the looks of it

A vandal hearts video and a shining force video in just over a month? I love this channel!

U put a lotta love into this one fam. Keep rolling!!🔥🔥

Most importantly, he’s a strange character. You like strange characters.

ahh..shining force. back to where it all started for me. the jogurt vid was one of the first of yours i watched years ago, and it feels comfortably nostalgic to see it covered again

Man! Your the first person I've ever seen upload footage of Vandal Hearts ! I use to own that game so good !!

A few notes: -Domingo is one of those characters that doesn't end up being fantastic, but is absolutely perfect for when you get him. That critical point where your characters are starting to be around promotion level is tough. It appears that characters don't necessarily "lose stats" on promotion as they are set to particular stats based on when they're promoted, with higher numbers at higher levels. All characters end up with better stats if you wait to promote them until level 20 (the max unpromoted level), but if you promote them earlier, you get the benefit of rubber-banded stat-ups more quickly. But whether you're trying to hold off until later or trying to catch up those new promotions, Domingo's tankiness and enemy draw are a huge asset. You'll almost always be using Domingo at the point you get him, even if you might find some characters outclassing him later. -After level 20 promoted, level-ups for all characters drop off to just about nothing, it's not purely a Domingo thing. The level-ups are somewhat but not fully random, and there are charts that show the expected stat gains per level over multiple iterations to prove this. -12:55 You should know better than to ask that question to the internet... -Bleu is one of those 'patience is rewarded' characters. He's a beast if you don't promote him early and put the time into leveling him, but if you promote early or don't put in the time, you don't get much out of him. -Musashi is a ridiculously good late-game character, a rare pre-promote that has pretty absurd stats to start and they don't really fall behind. Plus, his level-ups are quite consistent, so you're almost always going to get a good result with him. Shining Force 2 doesn't really have any characters that just fiercely stand out like SF1 does, but thanks to a quirk in the game that even ineffective healing provides consistent experience, you can grind healers to be WAY better than any other characters in the game. Seriously, you can have a healer character 10-20 levels above anyone else. And because level-ups are more consistent and linear in SF2, that means their stats can get kind of absurd.

Good, now we want the same for Shining Force 2.

Ah yessssss......... shining force You pretty much mentioned the top 3 (4th would’ve been Hanzou), Domingo was pretty much the sponge of the game, Bleu took forever to level up, but worth it. My boy Musashi......... I remember leveling him only 2 levels and one shoting Chaos (with a crit though). Also, if you’re using a rewind feature for the game, the stat gains are random when leveling up (I did that on the genesis collection for the switch and alef gain 20 points on a level up).

12:55 No, but he can ROCK a cute lil’ bowtie (and get pissed at how much he’s being babied)

Domingo seems like a mix between the Jagen and Est archetypes on Fire Emblem

"Now, DRGN Bleu shall be known as a GRDR!" Bleu: *transforms into a girder*

5:00 hc that Dom HATES being treated like the adorable lil’ babey he is 😅

Also another leave my mind alone tails related shtick would be him in a dead rising like game, except with videogame characters as survivors, mainly with Lil Miles here being like a super secret psychopath that if the right requirements are meet can be rescued, mainly is that it would be that you first need that by like around 24 hours before the survivor rescue and overtime, you had rescued every sonic related character through the location, then you are advised of weird undead cosplays the famed hedgehog around a part of the let's say megaplex and then you need to have with you: 1 zombrex, 1 medkit, 3 photos, one of the entrance to the safe house, a map of the mall to indicate we're it is and a group photo of the sonic crew until then, then you face him in a part that to fit the super secret status, is unmarked not even a part of the map, when let's say Frank or Chuck face tails, they meet him at a Chili dog eating contest tent, where he got like 3-4 survivors hostage crudely made to resemble Like Sonic, Knuckles and Amy, and that when undead took over he felt lost and that he believe they are his legit friends and that he will protect them at all cost even if the "attacker" is well intentioned, then the player char. Tries to snap him back by telling they aren't his his friends, and it like many before, Tails didn't take it well and gets on the offensive, when you defeat him, instead of falling to a gory death, he just falls exhausted in a corner, and starts crying, he calls for frank/chuck that he caused harm in a vain attempt to calm his grief and have a glimmer of hope for his friends safety, then wishes him/them to let the survivors free, there you have to first give him the medkit to ensure he doesn't die from the wounds, he is weirded out why they give him another chance to live, there you escort the survivors back to the safe house, next you return and give him the photos of the entrance and map, where he is given the option to go there if he wants, but he refuses, that he sees little hope due to his aforementioned grief, and then you give him the 3rd photo we're he is shocked in disbelief that they are safe and waiting for him, and last give him a zombrex since he chooses to go there by himself and just in case, and then as if it could be potential for a super scoop and gold achievment, back in the safe house you make a final photo with the entire group now complete for the reward of a mind melting 500000 PP points. The achievment could be called BCDFF (Best Chili Dogs Friends Forever)

All good characters, but my pick has to go to Zylo as my #1 character. He is a ground unit with small range, sure, but holy hell he's fast, moves far, got crazy high amounts of HP, and damage that just blows everyone out of the water up til the end of the game. Best of all: he levels very quickly.

I saw Domingo in the thumbnail and clicked immediately

Apparently if your name is Kane you're destined to become the archrival of a hero in a turn-based strategy RPG. Or the leader of a fanatical cult in a real-time strategy game. The enemy probably sees a floating jellyfish and assume them to be easy pickings. You'll be inclined to steer away from engaging that huge white dragon (or whatever his promotion is, GRDR= Grand Dragon?) or the armored samurai warrior, but a jellyfish? How could that possibly hurt you?

I knew there was a reason I love this little squid dude

I got the egg by complete accident in my first playthrough but completely missed the hatch guy,I was so angry when i found out right after i saved on the next chapter.

There is a hidden Critical stat in this game. All characters have a starting critical rate of 3%, aside from Domingo who has 4%, Hanzou who has 5%, and Musashi who has 7%. Additionally, the Critical stat can increase with levels slightly, ranging from 1-4 on most characters' growth curves (2-8 on promoted classes). Musashi's Critical growth is 18-the only one higher than that is promoted Gong who has 20 Critical growth.

Ooooohh nice love the original Shining Force.

If you ever need an exaggeratedly powerful boss in an RPG, I recommend that you try Digital Devil Saga 1. It is one of the most difficult RPGs out there and has the most exaggerated secret boss I have ever seen.

You know what they say about units that are lazy and don't like to fight but are forced to fight,... Yes they are op

Domingo is off the hook! Jogurt had a Domingo he might.

6:01 I believe you meant “calamari” 👾

love these videos man!

I love this series so much

Sending out Domingo, Bleu, and Musashi to trample everything, just feels like you're part of a great big evil squadron that's stomping everybody else.

Ok, I think I see what's up with Domingo: He's kinda like the Oifey equivalent for Shining Force. Powerful in the early and midgame, and while still usable late game, you're likely to have found someone who can hold himself just as well as Domingo can at that point- if not better than Domingo.

Eleven years already? Jesus, time flies fast. By the way Git, is there a possibility of you making a video on the Dawn of War series?

I think Domingo is still very good later on, being able to fly really lets him land his spells where they are needed.

Domingo: 'Tis but a scratch

I gotta play this again....

trying something different for the intro? i like it!

0:18 The population is now a glass of milk

The game probably has a certain list of characters it will always cycle through in the same certain order (when it comes to enemy turns). It cycles through, saying "can I attack this character on this turn?". If not, it cycles to the next character on the list. Makes sense the Protag is at the top of the list. Not sure why Domingo would be really high on the list though. At least, that's how I'd imagine how the enemy AI decides who to attack on it's turns. Some sort of internal list the game cycles through in order. And certainly NOT how squishy said character might actually be. It is a rather early SRPG, on a lowly Megadrive/Genesis. So the programming would have to be kept simple. That's my impressions anyways....

Dunno if it was mentioned in the comments already, but an explanation for why Domingo is such a magnet: the AI uses an aggro system to determine who to attack, and from what I understand it's either character based or class based. The squishier classes like the mages and clerics; this makes sense. BUT For some reason, Domingo has a special AI aggro priority that is so high, the only other playable unit in the game with more AI aggro than Domingo is THE HERO; aka the most valuable target ever. Domingo can *reliably* draw aggro away from *all other characters in the game* as long as they're not The Hero, and this is abusable to high heaven and back. Park DOmingo in an enemies' face and let your squishy mages beat things in the back of the head for free EXP. As long as an enemy *can* attack Domingo on their turn, *they will*.

I miraculously killed Mishaela in one hit by boosting Bleu's attack power and getting a critical hit on her that dealt her exact maximum HP in damage

*The final battle. Nearly everyone is down, Max is just barely hanging on.* Max: Ngh... Guess this is what we get for underestimating a Dark Dragon... I see there’s no choice... but to bring in my secret weapon! GO DOMINGO!! *Domingo appears!* Dark Dragon: Dark Dragon: ... Is it behind the jellyfish...? Max: IT *IS* THE JELLYFISH!!! *Domingo casts Freeze 4* Dark Dragon: AAAAAAAAAA- *cue end cutscene*

Git, this could be a material for a leave my mind alone, like I imagined a Phoenix Wright turnabout is similar style to your tails abuse based ones except more deep and basing in many ways to existing turnabouts.

not going to lie the secret items looks nice :)

Ah Yes the Mage Jellyfish

Zylo and Adam are great too.

Moral: Max is not the true hero, Domingo-chan is ♥️❤️💗❤️♥️

I hope next up is Lil’ Hunter from nuclear throne.

Whoisthisgit? He is my new best friend, this guy knows how to spot the good characters in games.

The final boss from wonderful 101 is really powerful too

I'm a simple tactical rpg player , i see Domingo i smash the like Button. That's all

So basically Domingo is the Jagen of Shining Force. Starts as a prepromote really strong early on but then falls short at the end of the game. Although he seems more like you need to train him first and then at level 20 he will fall off so not exactly a Jagen

Hey git could you possibly do one on fire emblem awakening, this video kinda made me think about how broken Donnel is as a unit and also what he can pass on to units in the future.

So all Domingo and Bleu are just est characters coming in the late game but being real tough if there is effort put into them While Mushashi is just pent

I see Shining Force I click

And in SFII we got Kiwi...

5:34 So wait, you are saying this squid thing (Domingo) is basically the "Est" of Shining Force? As seemingly low stats at first and low level. Also the fact that you need to feed them kills to get them going. But once they do get rolling they can get pretty strong (And to those who think that comparison isn't applicable, the original FE probably came out long before Shining Force so Est *probably* came first)

They don't hate him, they just really like calamari

You should do a video on the marionette... i still have nightmares about being oneshotted by freeze 3

0:31 yea ok I laughed lol

It's funny why the term tank is missused in RPGs for characters with good defense and high hp but moderate attack. Those are not tanks, those are shields. Domingo with his high defense, high range attack and moblity in harsh terrains fits much better the description of a tank.

Underrated

I'd say characters you need to grind levels for absolutely count. Afterall, a strong character with little room to grow is less impressive than a character that starts weak, but becomes a god after enough training. Though I guess that depends on how strong the first one starts out.

Comparing defense between a L10 Max and L25 Domingo... He starts with good L1 stats because he comes promoted. He can't be promoted because he comes promoted.

I would say the most powerful characters are Hanzo, Musashi, Bleu and Zylo. Add Zuika and Narsha if you’re playing the GBA remake

Do The most Powerful Characters in Gaming #34 with the Industrialist from Castle Crashers

I would just like to point out that in all my time of playing shining force, I have never had them get level up stats in the double digits like shown around time 10:58

But who is the most powerful out of them all? with no points removed from Bleu or Domingo for needing to be farmed before being powerful.

So basically mae, clair and boey blended into a squid smoothie, white kurthnaga and seth

I've read Adam is quite tanky if grinded too however due to the enemies in the remaining chapters being tough and Adam being so weak and unpromoted it's so Much of a hassle i've never actually tried to.

Someone was reading his comment section 😉 I remember singing Domingos praises, by far the best caster in the game. Super beast

Not too sure if Musashi is better than Guntz. Tankier, having AoE spell + melee option in the Halberd (which cast bolt 2), and ranged with the Valkyrie, and while he doesn't fly, he only take 1 move for every terrain type. A mobility ring Guntz and Domingo moves at the same speed on most maps, and comes online much earlier since both join at the same time, clearing all those mountainous areas way before the rest of the team ever see action. That said, Musashi doesn't compete with centaurs for weapons, so it maybe balance out depending on your team

But why a bearded tentacool?