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If you want to get the most out of your cards, you’ve got to make sure that they’re working together. This episode, DJ from Jumbo Commander returns to discuss synergies, some of the most powerful tools in Commander. Make sure you know know what they are, how they work, and when you should use them in your deck.
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@Werelord22
@Werelord22 3 года назад
"The most powerful thing you can do in Magic is just... win the game." - Jumbo Commander, 2021
@roydenhunt
@roydenhunt 3 года назад
What... Is that what your suppose to do :P
@jamesh3267
@jamesh3267 3 года назад
His grasp of the obvious is uncanny.
@joeferreti9442
@joeferreti9442 3 года назад
But the coolest thing you can do in MTG is drawing cards. So, why would you want to win the game, when you can draw cards instead?
@EvlEgle
@EvlEgle 3 года назад
"Solemn simalcrum is the most powerful thing you can do in commander" - Sheldon manudo Probably
@malign3158
@malign3158 3 года назад
Can’t wait until Josh saying “I told you so” becomes a meme whenever a lethal card is played by an opponent
@deadso
@deadso 3 года назад
Saying "I told you so" does not bring anything remotely positive to a game.
@oORoOFLOo
@oORoOFLOo 3 года назад
@@deadso yeah everything has to be positive :)))) no criticism, that's evil!!!!!!!
@deadso
@deadso 3 года назад
@@oORoOFLOo I am critisism, and yes, that's what people tell me "don't say anything unless it's positive". So now that's what I tell Josh, don't be toxic with "I tOlD YOu sO!"
@benjaminarmstrong9627
@benjaminarmstrong9627 3 года назад
I wish DJ was the 3rd co-host on the command zone
@orocamion
@orocamion 3 года назад
But then we wouldn't have the Jumbo Commander.
@michaelgierusz5754
@michaelgierusz5754 3 года назад
I personally would love to see Josh and DJ as a pair for a side podcast or a segment.
@michaelgierusz5754
@michaelgierusz5754 3 года назад
@@jamesh3267 They are all rich guys with magic cards lol he filled in for months and did an excellent job
@michaelgierusz5754
@michaelgierusz5754 3 года назад
@@jamesh3267 yes Jimmy, Josh, and DJ are all rich people with magic cards.
@michaelgierusz5754
@michaelgierusz5754 3 года назад
@@jamesh3267 No I didn't we are literally talking about 3 people lol you were the one who made the mistake.
@Mr_Myst13
@Mr_Myst13 3 года назад
Ah yes my favorite CZ hosts, Josh Midoriya and DJ Bakugo...
@unofficialgoose
@unofficialgoose 3 года назад
Ikr! I saw the cover like- “Bakugo?! And Midoriya?! Are these fellow weebs? Or just wanted a cool cover?”
@kajw.230
@kajw.230 3 года назад
I'd love to see more of DJ. The chemistry between him and Josh is just incredible.
@nicholaseikelberry8009
@nicholaseikelberry8009 3 года назад
DJ is great. Jumbo Commander is a great channel.
@adog389
@adog389 3 года назад
One might say they have great... SYNERGYYYYYYY
@Aldersandfirs
@Aldersandfirs 3 года назад
Watch older episodes of the podcast! They hosted it together for a long time
@xxhellspawnedxx
@xxhellspawnedxx 3 года назад
@Pariah I think that was tongue-in-cheek.
@LoveStrangeDr
@LoveStrangeDr 3 года назад
@Pariah it was a joke
@MT_LeagueGaming7896
@MT_LeagueGaming7896 3 года назад
Seriously love Cassius' deck- if you kept losing on Game knights to Josh most times you just dream of the day you can Narset- hull breacher- wheel Josh and he saw it coming but no one believed him... lol awesome moment!
@Matisyahuwu
@Matisyahuwu 3 года назад
Yeah I don’t blame him. Cassius has had some rough games here in the past so it was awesome to see him pop off. And he’s obviously become a better player over the last couple of years too.
@MT_LeagueGaming7896
@MT_LeagueGaming7896 3 года назад
@@Matisyahuwu he didnt take the chain of vapor bait- its a trap card bc u think u get value but u actually go down a land... cass didn't take the bait, kept the momentum
@fernandostar3507
@fernandostar3507 3 года назад
@@MT_LeagueGaming7896 the only time the chain of vapor bait is ok, is when you're playing a land deck. Lord Windgrace or the Gitrog Monster
@MT_LeagueGaming7896
@MT_LeagueGaming7896 3 года назад
@@fernandostar3507 only if he were using a deck that could have brought lands back like crucible too- but still it was early enough that down 1 land would have put him off his tempo but I see your point-
@olelynass4839
@olelynass4839 3 года назад
Man! I love DJs hair!
@TheSmartCinema
@TheSmartCinema 3 года назад
So happy to see DJ back on the show !! I looove his energy and personality, I wish we could see him more often :)
@andythompson3895
@andythompson3895 3 года назад
That's something I was telling my wife about DJ while watching his channel. He is always hyped up and excited
@jasonholmes5714
@jasonholmes5714 3 года назад
DJ: would you enjoy Professor Liliana? Me: ... is that a trick question ... ?
@earlferguson3736
@earlferguson3736 3 года назад
Lol
@austinvonjohnson9307
@austinvonjohnson9307 3 года назад
We all know what he really meant! Nice dodge, Josh!
@Hazardx871
@Hazardx871 3 года назад
I love Command Zone collabs with Jumbo Commander
@verlandes1
@verlandes1 3 года назад
Agreed. DJ is such a sweetie!
@jamesthefront2246
@jamesthefront2246 3 года назад
Same! DJ is great 😊
@ktom1208
@ktom1208 3 года назад
Fo sho
@aortega
@aortega 3 года назад
Same! It’s especially sweet when it’s both Jimmy and Josh with DJ-unreal chemistry.
@jonaharchmageeternal3288
@jonaharchmageeternal3288 3 года назад
Who else was here earlier enough to see the title as CZ383
@ItsJustKorbin
@ItsJustKorbin 3 года назад
Same, thats what it's showing for me as well
@Wowverycrazy
@Wowverycrazy 3 года назад
XD me it was in me notis xd
@laxikokpniccoson1960
@laxikokpniccoson1960 3 года назад
Me
@loganhabicht7113
@loganhabicht7113 3 года назад
Yeah it was
@lordrevan5601
@lordrevan5601 3 года назад
Me
@dutty.vintage
@dutty.vintage 3 года назад
"would you enjoy professor Liliana?" 😏😏
@austinvonjohnson9307
@austinvonjohnson9307 3 года назад
I’m surprised there wasn’t mention of Worldslayer. Also, on the level of 1 to Craig, how evil is DJ?
@stephenhurley1033
@stephenhurley1033 3 года назад
I mean I wanted some inspiration about my group hug deck so I watched his decktec about his group hug deck... It just got out everyones lands from their deck and destroyed all lands... I didnt know how many mass land destruction spells there were until DJ's deck was shown haha. I honestly dont think he is far off Craig when DJ is in the mood for a rough game 😂
@landenc3849
@landenc3849 3 года назад
Josh: "Karn's plus one literally doesn't work in commander." Sydri players: *sleeves up Ugin's Nexus with malicious intent*
@JohnSmith-hs9ez
@JohnSmith-hs9ez 3 года назад
Important note about the knowledge pool teferi lock that many players miss. Knowledge pool says specifically "from your HAND" you can still cast your Commander. Also importantly for decks like Karador, Muldrotha, Kess (there might be others but I can't think of them off of the top of my head) you can cast cards from your graveyard. If you have an answer in your graveyard you have access to it.
@FSTL0613
@FSTL0613 3 года назад
@52:20 Not to nitpick but Karn's -2 makes you also search from Exile. Which can be nice to gat back that Lattice that got Returned to Dust ;)
@daniescc9622
@daniescc9622 3 года назад
Josh: “vaccines are great!” Me: *cries in Latin America*
@jorgemariogurmendi9927
@jorgemariogurmendi9927 3 года назад
I feel you
@supermassivi1995
@supermassivi1995 3 года назад
Cries from Brazil here
@andersrolig
@andersrolig 3 года назад
Meanwhile here in Norway half the elder population is saying no to the vaccines this week bacause it is Easter. :/
@stul0031
@stul0031 3 года назад
Look up birth control testing in puerto rico. Early access isn't always a good thing.
@Cinomod6066
@Cinomod6066 3 года назад
@@stul0031 and then you get hit with the "you can't do shit unless you have your vaccine card bullshit" on top of that.
@razaali4616
@razaali4616 3 года назад
Kathleen would like to suggest another powerful card design, known as don’t lose
@JustDave87
@JustDave87 3 года назад
I had a mass land destruction happen last weekend. One player was able to search my library (I'm playing a Windgrace deck btw) and played Reshape the Earth for free. He had 15 lands at this point, which was like turn 5. On my turn I cycled Decree of Annihilation, because he forced my hand. However, my wife played Heroic Intervention and it was such a fantastic play. I was able to recover somewhat quicker than most with my lands matters deck. The other two players were not so lucky. My wife on the other hand took the game easily at that point. Nobody could ever catch up. It was so fun. Haha!
@VincentWolfeye
@VincentWolfeye 3 года назад
I really love these episodes with DJ. The best part of this episode was the one with replacement effects for carddraw for drawing more cards. But the rest of the episode reads more like how to break the social contract rather than how to add great synergies to your deck. So just as a little feedback. It would be nice to see more syneries that don't break the social contract :)
@BjornStellar
@BjornStellar 3 года назад
How dare they mention Nev's Disk Indestructible combo and not mention combining it with Mycosynth Lattice to literally blow up everyone else's lands and essentially lock the table out of the game completely.
@MtGArtandArtifice
@MtGArtandArtifice 3 года назад
Because that's EEEEEeeeeeevil synergy.
@kurowasanabe
@kurowasanabe 3 года назад
I personally like Teferi's protection in response to my own nukes. It and Armageddon are best friends.
@freerunner1953
@freerunner1953 3 года назад
Calm down Satan
@Frostgiantbutsmall
@Frostgiantbutsmall 3 года назад
@@MtGArtandArtifice So is knowledge pool lock tbf
@briansternberg2695
@briansternberg2695 3 года назад
Command Zone: you do cast the first spell that goes into the knowledge pool. You should should make a disclaimer. This synergy works when you lock someone out with a card like curse of exhaustion.
@ghostanbu1099
@ghostanbu1099 3 года назад
That thumbnail got me hyped for the MtG x My Hero Academia crossover!!
@hmmmskwc6018
@hmmmskwc6018 3 года назад
WAIT WHAT. Where can you find out about that?
@ghostanbu1099
@ghostanbu1099 3 года назад
@@hmmmskwc6018 I was kidding lol. It would be cool though
@cayden5257
@cayden5257 3 года назад
Only real ones remember the original title
@GrompEconomics
@GrompEconomics 3 года назад
CZ83Z or something lol
@cayden5257
@cayden5257 3 года назад
@I am a Cat CZ383
@GatheringTheMagicYT
@GatheringTheMagicYT 3 года назад
I’m gutted CZ383 just had such a ring to it 😂
@40Found
@40Found 3 года назад
I'm glad they renamed the Snyder cut of CZ383. It helps differentiate the two.
@jimmyherold1342
@jimmyherold1342 3 года назад
63
@DasTarnschnitzel
@DasTarnschnitzel 3 года назад
For the Disk Synergy: Throw in a Mycosynth lattice to prevent the enemy from getting rid of your Indestructible by destroying lands.
@BjornStellar
@BjornStellar 3 года назад
Aye, this be a mean one that my play group tends to forget about. I have also swiped someone's entire board with hellkite tyrant combined with thos combo before nuking the board. Probably one of the coolest moments I have ever had with my Daretti deck.
@DasTarnschnitzel
@DasTarnschnitzel 3 года назад
@@BjornStellar I have Hellkite, Lattice, Darksteel Forge, Disk, Worldbreaker, Vandablast and some more in my Magda Deck. Nothing better than tutoring all that stuff out
@ivoryyapper
@ivoryyapper 3 года назад
DJ has the most soothing voice
@lokirip2372
@lokirip2372 3 года назад
It's the opposite of Ashlyn. Her voice is terrible.
@p1k4nurxp13sr
@p1k4nurxp13sr 3 года назад
So for the second set of synergies (TeferiPool) you can also use Possibility Storm if you happen to be in red. Additionally, if you have a method of breaking parity on-board, such as a planeswalker, a Rule of Law effect works with both Pool and P. Storm.
@DAsrada
@DAsrada 3 года назад
Also, Bloodchief Ascension, Zur's Weirding, and Abundance are all Black Blue and Green permanents - and you know what THAT means... (MULDROTHA INTENSIFIES)
@OliverQuadros
@OliverQuadros 3 года назад
Hey @The Command Zone There is another synergy for the Sylvan Library + Abundance and that is Sylvan Library + Teferi's Ageless Insight. You always draw keep 3 cards and can dig 5 deep every turn AND have card selection so you can decide which one you want rather than the randomness of Abundance. But both are pretty great!
@Deamonic
@Deamonic 3 года назад
Bloodchief Ascension also synergizes with Mindcrank. And if you hit them for any damage, once Bloodchief is 'online', then so long as you don't choose to have them NOT mill, they will either die from damage, or mill out.
@typoholic
@typoholic 3 года назад
The Command Zone with DJ gives me the warms and fuzzies.
@2good2bu7
@2good2bu7 3 года назад
My favorite synergy is one that I heavily use in my Lord Windgrace and Gitrog decks and that is Splendid Reclamation for mass return or Crucible of Lands (and friends) for targeted return of lands that hit the graveyard. I've seen you Josh push this recently with Fetch lands, but there are ways to take this concept even further by playing Squandered Resources and Rain of Filth essentially doubling your mana, Constant Mists to blank everyone's combat step, Overlaid Terrain becomes the most efficient mana doubler. There's a lot of really strong effects you can get out of these synergies that I find most people aren't giving proper consideration to.
@mariovalentin1867
@mariovalentin1867 3 года назад
zurs weirding in a muldrotha deck, its soooo good
@notjake2089
@notjake2089 3 года назад
Probably obvious to say, but the Sylvan Library trick works with any draw replacement effect. Personal favorite would have to be Underrealm Lich(4BG), replace draw with "look at top 3 cards, put 1 in hand, put 2 in grave" can also pay 4 life to give it indestructible. Works amazing in anything with grave synergies like Gitrog Monster aswell... also tiny upside for the draw replacement effects, not that it hardly ever comes up, but it does make you immune to mill death since you are no longer able to "draw" when you have no cards remaining XD
@AlextheLynx1
@AlextheLynx1 3 года назад
Worth noting: Karn the Great Creator's -2 works really well with the new Boros Commander deck. Exile an artifact for 2 token copies, then -2 and put the original in your hand.
@Putrefax
@Putrefax 3 года назад
The Maralen / OP Agent lock doesn't only let you tutor their decks, also stops your opponents from drawing cards. Forever. Once this lock hits the board, your opponents can only stop it with the cards they have in hand right now. And every turn, you get to steal more protection for it. There's a reason it's a pretty powerful lock in competitive stax decks, I run it in my Tayam list.
@456jm
@456jm 3 года назад
I actually played in a Commander game once where one of my opponents cast Armageddon while I had both Smothering Tithe and Anointed Procession on the battlefield doubling my Treasure token output, it was great!
@Hitzel
@Hitzel 3 года назад
I play Muldrotha and I have many times done the Sylvan Library trick, but with Underrealm Lich instead of Abundance ─ that's essentially draw 9 per turn. Feels good.
@crawdaddy2004
@crawdaddy2004 3 года назад
One of my favorite rules for tournament play is that, if you Brainstorm during your upkeep and have Sylvan Library, you are required to call a judge to look at your hand while you do this.
@mikejohnson3574
@mikejohnson3574 3 года назад
there's also "you can't have turns". Cast mindslaver, cast lethal vapors. Gain control of target player's turn. during their turn, have them activate the ability of lethal vapors (skip your next turn: destroy lethal vapors). In response, have that opponent activate the ability another 10,000 times. They never get another turn again.
@emerson685
@emerson685 3 года назад
One that I just discovered recently is isochron scepter and strionic resonator. If you have a deck that wants both, such as a mono blue wizard deck with both ETBs and a lot of instants, you may incidentally run both already. You can copy the imprint ability putting two spells under the scepter. If those two spells are Counterspell and Dramatic Reversal (again two spells you would likely already run) you can cast them both with the scepter repeatable. With at least 2 mana in mana rocks, you can cast both to counter a spell and untap the scepter to do it again. Effectively this locks out any spell you want besides those that are uncounterable. (See Rule 607.3)
@Rohan841r
@Rohan841r 2 года назад
"To the listeners" answer: Necroptence and Venser's Journal, in a Karlov deck. Also, military shore leave and lots of money to freely spend on cards, are a good life synergy that can lead players to have more deck test time and the access to that nearly perfect mana base. One more, Blackblade Reforged and Balath the red Goad commander with the white background that makes Balath get 2 +1/+1 counters each turn. All opponents must attack, but not you.
@cinaedpv
@cinaedpv 3 года назад
A good, cheap response to hull breacher is crafty cutpurse. While you don’t have any cards, you take all the tokens from them that they would make that turn. If you can repeatedly blink it every turn, it will continue to steal all the treasures.
@paulrainwater1963
@paulrainwater1963 3 года назад
Enchanted Evening + Calming Verse
@kellenbachman4529
@kellenbachman4529 3 года назад
Abundance also stops you from losing to an empty library because it replaces all draws, and to lose you must draw into an empty library.
@kylarstern42
@kylarstern42 3 года назад
DJ!!!! Always a pleasure to see him on a video! He has such awesome chemistry and really fits well with the Command Zone cast.
@markkarlo4869
@markkarlo4869 3 года назад
Nice to see DJ as a guest again. Notion Thief, et al. effects can synergize with Teferi's Puzzle Box that when timed right can steal your opponent's draw phase. Zur's Weirding is Muldrotha's bestfriend. Opposition Agent can be a good search option for Wishclaw Talisman.
@markkarlo4869
@markkarlo4869 3 года назад
ooh, I forgot Necropotence and Bolas Citadel... cast what you can, set aside what you can't.
@AaronChamberlain88
@AaronChamberlain88 3 года назад
Liked Jimmy's Sylvan Library and Alhammarret’s Archive synergy a few episodes back, where you draw 5 and keep 3. Any draw doubler would do the trick :-)
@carloscasas3381
@carloscasas3381 3 года назад
4:19 for beginning of topic
@DAsrada
@DAsrada 3 года назад
My Muldrotha Deck has both Narset and Hullbreacher in there. No wheels though, but they're more in there to punish card draw. The deck in general functions by slowly grinding the opponent down.
@LunarWingCloud
@LunarWingCloud 3 года назад
I'm happy to see DJ back on for another episode!
@paulmcclain642
@paulmcclain642 3 года назад
For the spikes out there, Drannith Magistrate + Possibility Storm is a nice lock that costs about 2.50 and Drannith Magistrate + Uba Mask works too. For the casuals, Syr Konrad + Living Death is a really fun synergy and if you land it it costs 10 mana so no one can be salty about it
@jessecollingwood1002
@jessecollingwood1002 2 года назад
If you are going to run the darksteel forge / nevs disk combo. Make sure you toss in mycosynth lattice as well. All permanents are now artifacts. So when you wrath, you also blow up the opponents lands / creatures, basically they start at turn one. So even if they have a swords or a bounce answer it’s very unlikely they will be able to ever afford the casting cost to play it considering when they play a land and pass the turn you blow it up on your turn.
@TabooX1984
@TabooX1984 3 года назад
I'm glad you guys made this video. I got some real good sleep because of it. Thank you. 👍👍👍
@kingofdurp2329
@kingofdurp2329 3 года назад
One of my favorite synergies is ether the wanderer planeswalker or blessed sanctuary, which prevents damage, and command the dreadhord. Then just choose all the creatures that can be used from all graveyards then the damage preventers prevent the damage. If it said loses life it wouldn't work but it says deals damage so it oddly works.
@micahharlev2418
@micahharlev2418 3 года назад
That Raycon ad was so good!!!
@alexdobbins950
@alexdobbins950 3 года назад
I have Zur’s Weirding in my Muldrotha deck! Muldrotha let’s me pull the things my opponents put in my graveyard back out so it doesn’t affect me as much. It’s also a way for me to check my opponents hands for counters before playing my combo out. Love this card!
@gabriellorvan4490
@gabriellorvan4490 3 года назад
On the topic of Teferi + things to force your opponents to cast something else instead, Possibility Storm works with them as well. Also, if you have the Knowledge Pool but no Teferi, there are a number of cards that limit the number of spells people can play per turn, so they cast the first spell but can't cast the second because they can only play one per turn.
@safehaven1
@safehaven1 3 года назад
36:06 pair Maralen with Orb of L'Chethul. Adding op agent is a bonus. This has happened to my table and no one had any removals lol
@avy122500
@avy122500 3 года назад
YAY DJ IS BACK. Great editing. Good synergy.
@andersrolig
@andersrolig 3 года назад
24:00 It's an old combo sir, but it checks out. (insert Imperial officer talking to Vader in ep6)
@farlischere
@farlischere 3 года назад
Just a great reminder, karn the great creator is get a card from outside the game or in exile. I have it in my artifact deck not just fot lattice but to drag artifacts back from exile
@antony_ag
@antony_ag 3 года назад
funny interaction is when hullbreacher and Narset, Parter of Veils/Spirit of the Labyrinth are on the battlefield is that your opponent just creates one treasure instead of 7 when a Wheel happens
@samorniv7911
@samorniv7911 3 года назад
A simpler "no more spells" trick is the new book legendary and a Nikya of the old ways type effect, given to your opponent.
@phillipfry8141
@phillipfry8141 3 года назад
The Maralen/Opposition agent combo should be called "I drink YOUR milkshake! I DRINK IT UP!"
@falnica
@falnica 3 года назад
A few days ago "Un actually" also uploaded a video with its production name and it was super long and complex, including the resolution and something about the editing, however these guys use names like CZ383... it's just funny to see the contrast on the different methodologies for file managing
@Tomerac
@Tomerac 3 года назад
Maybe a little out of context, but would really love to see Mitch or Mel again. Love your channel btw
@evanschoefer2198
@evanschoefer2198 3 года назад
I love the zur's weirding combo, its one of the weirdest synergies, but I love things like this. I built an entire deck based around it helped by tasigur. Its a really strong one, and I love playing it but I dont get to play it often because its mean.
@RoastedPheasant
@RoastedPheasant 3 года назад
One of my favorite cards to synergise with is Fertilid. It's a surprisingly flexible card for what seems like such a boring design. During one of my most recent games, I played Fertilid into Simic Ascendancy. This was already an incredibly powerful combo, but then I combined that with a Seedborn Muse and went from a 4 counter Ascendancy to 19 in a single round of the table. I could have won!... if I didn't forget that the "win the game" trigger only enters the stack if you already have 20 counters.
@ZidaneTribal1989
@ZidaneTribal1989 3 года назад
How Josh described his usage of Jolrael, Empress of Beasts is exactly what I did to my brother in one game years ago simply because he was bullying a player he played against in a previous game. At the time people were surprised I Exiled Avacyn Angel of hope when I casted Final Judgment but a lesson learn: Commander is about having fun not grudges.
@pixelbomb97
@pixelbomb97 3 года назад
4:19 skip the lip
@TheTramil
@TheTramil 3 года назад
M.V.P. right here.
@KostasTheDark
@KostasTheDark 3 года назад
Very important thing that should be addressed in the Teferi Pool combo, ESPECIALLY by a Commander channel, is that Commanders aren't stopped by it. I've had a net decker in my area just blindly play the comco and think the game was over, and it took quite some time to explain why "No, you didn't just autowin with two cards, there's a reason neither is banned". Of course, abilities can also be played.
@rubi4714
@rubi4714 3 года назад
I actually think you guys missed a pretty big one: flicker/blink + ETB effects. Some of the most difficult to counter decks I've played against in the last couple of years work by getting small value cards in play, then repeating that value until you have an overwhelming advantage. As an example, Emiel, the unicorn from jumpstart that can blink other creatures. Many times someone will play a spell that goes under the radar, like Wood Elves (ETB: search out a forest). You don't think about it at the time; it's a Rampant Growth, who's going to counter that? Then, Emiel hits the table, and suddenly that wood elves is increasing the available resources by up to 50% each turn. Hint: exponential growth = powerful. What's insidious about blink effects, particularly those on permanents, is that they occur at instant speed, so once the card is on the battlefield, you can't stop it really b/c they can simply do the blink in response to whatever effect you are using to remove it. Also, usually, they can blink targets to prevent targeted removal from working, and use delayed triggers (blinks that return on end step, for example) to get around board wipes. Finally, on the _really_ mean side, blinks that set up delayed triggers are one of the few ways to _permanently_ remove a commander from the game, if the player who is the victim doesn't properly understand how it works. You know what's not fun? Trying to play your build-around commander deck --- without the commander.
@Deamonic
@Deamonic 3 года назад
It That betrays + All Is Dust (in a colorless deck) = all their stuff is yours now, they only have lands, and if you have a haste enabler, you swing for lethal.
@estebanmarco8755
@estebanmarco8755 3 года назад
While talking about Nevinyrral's Disk + Darksteel Forge, a good include to push the synergie over the edge is Mycosynth Lattice. With this the opponents will just concede and you'll have no friends. (Not actually true, the times I got this combo out in my Kozilek deck my opponents just asked to stard the next one) Also Nekusar, the Mindrazer with Helm of the Ghastlord means your opponents will never be able to draw any card.
@xindlepete8316
@xindlepete8316 3 года назад
Another one for the Mycosinth Lattice "armageddon" is actually OG Karn, Silver Golem. Since you can pay 1 to make any non-creature artifact into an artifact creature with P/T equal to its CMC, and Lattice turns all lands into artifacts, Karn, Silver Golem allows you to spend 1 mana to blow up 1 land. While this isn't as mana-efficient or powerful as overloading Vandalblast, it is another way to get rid of all your opponents' lands while keeping yours in play. My friends may or may not hate my mono-red Daretti deck....
@robertbauerle5592
@robertbauerle5592 3 года назад
@ the 33:00 "You don't need permanents" discussion, I'm surprised worldslayer didn't get a mention along side nev disk. Worldslayer is also way more devastating... Remember than lands are permanents too, lol.
@markbn89
@markbn89 3 года назад
love using rooftop storm, sidisi and havengul lich with a sacrifice engine.
@tacioleal1789
@tacioleal1789 3 года назад
Hey guys, nice video as always. I'd just like to add some value to the "you dont need permanents" synergy because I do play with a kaalia as commander and I put Avacyn in play so I can "create" a win condition with a armageddon or decree of annihilation (by cycling) or obliterate. So this can take out of the game not only permanents but also the main source of mana. I do also have in my deck the new card cosmic intervention, so I can destroy the battlefiel and protect my own game. Nice work of yours from command zone, brazilian lovers of MTG enjoy your canal. Stay safe everybody.
@geraldjasinski6310
@geraldjasinski6310 3 года назад
Ive gotten Fall of the Thran off and kept all my lands with Teferi's Protection. The table hated me for it but I would absolutely do it again.
@ToadimusPrime
@ToadimusPrime Год назад
What I like to do is have Shalai and Avacyn on the field, at the same time. It's not an instant win, but it's just so powerful and there's very little someone can do. Farewell exists now, and it's one of the few solutions to Hexproof + Indestructible on everything.
@grampaw5605
@grampaw5605 3 года назад
I occasionally pair up Ob Nixhilis, Unshackled with Maralen of the Mornsong and lots of edicts just for something completely different.
@rinkokonoe3888
@rinkokonoe3888 3 года назад
First off great video, loved the discussion and your guy's back and forth was great. Now I'm not sure it's a "synergy" and not a "combo" but based on the description you gave I'm surprised Jodah/fist of suns and morophon wasn't on the list? It's essentially 1/2 an omniscience in the command zone for tribal themes and that's a pretty cool synergy that won't necessarily win the game on the spot but it's pretty great value.
@jonlamoreaux1889
@jonlamoreaux1889 3 года назад
The title for this should of been most powerful non infinite combos.
@derekludwig3945
@derekludwig3945 3 года назад
Agreed. A combo doesn't have to be an infinite, instant-win loop to be a combo. "Synergy" is a spectrum, with those sorts of combos residing at the extreme maximum end of it.
@MsOriginalGuru
@MsOriginalGuru 3 года назад
My playgroup isn't a fan of shimmer + stormtide leviathan (call island for shimmer). You can also use other cards that change land types (urborg, blood moon, etc). Translation for those who don't want to look it up, all lands gain phasing.
@faerie7dragon
@faerie7dragon 3 года назад
My favorite is Brisela, Voice of Nightmares + Gaddock Teeg. I call it "let's play fair magic", as I stack ways to further oppress people's creatures.
@shayneweyker
@shayneweyker 3 года назад
Curiosity or Opidian's Eye plus creatures that damage all opponents can also draw 3. Muldrotha and flashback decks also are asymmetric with Zur's Weirding.
@golgariguy
@golgariguy 3 года назад
Sylvan Library + Underrealm Lich is also quite nice (and the Lich is very difficult to remove)
@austinnihsen6067
@austinnihsen6067 3 года назад
Y'all forgot about Ob Nixilis unshackled when talking about the Maralen, opposition agent combo.
@Vmcf1968
@Vmcf1968 3 года назад
im so glad to see dj back. very glad we will see more of him. hope this means jimmy has a new acting project, he is a very good actor.
@jonathaneklund6003
@jonathaneklund6003 3 года назад
Someone should really make a video with only the commercial clips just to get people to re-experience them forever, they are so incredibly hilariously funny
@jimalabi3225
@jimalabi3225 3 года назад
You can also add the animation of Game Knights in that video as well... They do an amazing job!
@Prisma0000
@Prisma0000 3 года назад
Forgot to mention Notion Thief with narset and hullbreacher
@sp00n29
@sp00n29 3 года назад
Nonland permanent boardwipe into "Kaervek, the Spiteful" and "Living Plane" is also a really funny combo: Noone has lands, but you have a 3/2 legendary creature. This combo will definitely generate a load of spite.
@wilfulbuckle13
@wilfulbuckle13 3 года назад
I like living plane + Elesh Norn more.
@choppyhen
@choppyhen 3 года назад
I would also say vedalken orrery, and seedborn muse is an amazing synergy. Play stuff at instant speed, untapped your lqnds on your opponents turns
@davedussault8324
@davedussault8324 3 года назад
Tomorrow, Azami's Familiar also works well with Sylvan Library.
@spudster8887
@spudster8887 3 года назад
One of my favourites: Enchanted evening + auratog + aura thief, this is in my tuvasa enchantress. On top of that we also use Enchanted evening + calming verse because being a monster is fun
@RazgrizAce67
@RazgrizAce67 3 года назад
I'm surprised you didn't mention: Doubling Season/New Vorinclex + "Any Planeswalker with a good ultimate loyalty"
@PZcryptic1
@PZcryptic1 3 года назад
On the Knowledge Pool synergy, I have an entire deck built around that 'synergy', with a wider Artifact control theme. It also contains Karn, the Great Creator + Mycosynth Lattice. I agree that on paper they look like powerful 'synergies' but if you play that deck, you're playing it like a combo. You usually overload a Cyclonic Rift to empty the board and then cast Lavinia/Teferis + the Pool and explain what's happening. The majority of the time, people recognise the lock and concede, then you put the deck away for 3 weeks. I would not play it against anyone who wouldn't be interested in doing so, but I have also spent a long time tuning my build that doesn't contain Mana Crypt, Mana Vault, etc. I'm trying to play the fairest possible version of an admittedly demoralising lock. Edit: This was posted before I got to the Karn+Lattice discussion, but they missed that Karn's -2 does actually grab things from Exile so the ability is not actually dead. I've been able to get many lock pieces from exile with Karn.
@YourPalRowan
@YourPalRowan 3 года назад
12:26 you'd draw 6 because the greatest discarded was 6, so even better
@peterarete3202
@peterarete3202 3 года назад
Love this topic. As a question and a suggestion, are you guys working on an Interaction episode? I use the draw, ramp, removal and wipe suggestions as guidelines for making my decks- but I've noticed that that leaves tutors, recursion, clone and copy effects, etc.. as a toss-up category. Clearly, this stuff is waaay sensitive to your pod/playgroup, but I know you guys have some tried and true wisdom, and I'd love to hear you talk on this subject.
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