You could also have thrown Deandre Jordan's deal with the Clippers in there. Jordan had verbally agreed to join the Mavs, then at the last minute signed with the Clippers who promised to help him make money off the court with their business connections. The NBA even fined the Clippers for it.
Spurs already damaged by the Kawhi and Green trade then the Morris case happened which damaged the Spurs long term plans, especially when they lost a key player.
@Kwame brown and Jim cornette burner account to be fair we saw that kawhi would never willingly choose to partner up with lebron but maybe with that trade the power would have been with lebron.
You forgot the Serge Ibaka for Oladipo and Sabonis trade that sent the Magic org back for years. It looks like the Thunder fleeced the Magic, but if you take a deep dive into it, the Magic GM at the time was Rob Hennigan a former OKC asst. GM. later that season at the trade deadline the Magic dealt Ibaka to the Raptors for pennies on the dollar, leading to Hennigan getting fired after that season. Then later on Hennigan was rehired as an OKC asst. GM.
Wasn’t Kawhis uncle one of the shadiest ppl 😂 he wanted some crazy shit to join the lakers which was illegal i couldn’t remember all the details but i remember there’s some debates about kawhis uncle
Clippers sent front office to the majority of Raptor games to discuss the future with his uncle... I heard the board at mlse would never agree to all the crazy shit kawhi's camp wanted.... I have yet to hear about the demands he WAS GIVEN by the Clips owner bc fack learning more about the Clippers
lmao true. i wonder how it would work tho had the trade gone thru. it wouldve relied on bynum living up to his potential and how well cp3 adjusts to the triangle since theyll be giving up odom and gasol.
@@sharilajeeeeee He already knew the Triangle system well which he played in for years as a Highschool Varsity so he was very familiar with the system.. I do agree if Andrew Bynum stayed healthy and played with his full potential adding Paul Gasol and Lamar Odom later would have been a great dynasty in the making..
How could you not mention Chris Paul and Blake Griffin literally kidnapping DeAndre Jordan and apply the heaviest pressure possible to get him to back out of a nearly finished contract with the Mavericks?
That Joe Smith contract doesn't make any sense at all. It makes a lot of sense for the Timberwolves who get an 80 million player or let's call him a $20 million per year player for less than 2 million per year. Even if he doesn't get hurt and he makes it to the bird contract he would only get 86 million dollars at that point. That's just a stupid deal because there's no way that you can force the Timberwolves to sign him at that point for the bird deal. They could cut him at the end of 3 years and have spent 6 million dollars or less for a guy that was supposed to have been paid 60 million for the same amount of time. His agents were incredibly untalented. Turns out that Joe Smith was not that talented either. He sort of reminded me of Marcus camby. Another big time college player who was just better than average. Somebody who at their very best might pick up an All-Star or two but that would be it. I can't remember what ended up happening with his money after they canceled the Timberwolves deals?
So making all defense teams, becoming dpoy, leading in blocks for few years is just above average? Fuck offff... How dare u compare Marcus Camby to Joe Smith.
What's so funny about the Timberwolves situation is they always acted like they had a really great general manager in Kevin McHale but he was always a horrible talent evaluator and obviously a cheat. Being a good player does not translate to being a good team manager. The Boston Celtics mid-80s teams seem to be a storehouse of future management big shots. Larry Bird went on to quite a bit of success with Indiana and obviously Danny ainge has had a lot of impact in Boston. Kevin McHale is the weakest of the lot. They had some success in Minnesota but a team with Kevin Garnett is going to have some success. They were horrible putting enough talent around him and so those years were pretty much wasted.
Even as a coach he was questionable at times. He would sometimes just pull players out even if they're on fire in the games and completely throw off their game. It was weird.
I've always understood David Stern's move on the veto. Didn't have crap to do with the Lakers being a super team. The nba wanted somebody to buy the hornets and CP3 was a budding superstar. The original offer was cp3 for Kevin martin 28, lamar Odom 32, Goran Dragic 25 and Luis Scola 31. Martin was a walking bucket but was in his late 20's and not going to be the star of a team anybody wanted to spend 600m on. The others were old or unproven. Eric Gordon was coming off his best season and only 23. Chris Kaman had been an Allstar recently and still under 30. Aminu was coming off a rookie season so he didn't matter. No, still not as attractive as Chris Paul, but more promising than what Houston and Lakers could offer.
Yeah they also got a 1st round unprotected Minnesota pick from the Clips too. The biggest thing is that it allowed the Hornets to fully rebuild and have hope Lakers trade would have been devastating because it would have put the team in purgatory with no real way to get out for a long time
I too understood where Stern was coming from, but it was still a shitty move because ultimately, Chris Paul wanted out regardless, which is why the trade almost went down in the first place. And ironically, ended up getting his wish not too much later to LA anyway, albeit with the Clippers instead of the Lakers.
Jennie Buss came clean n said when the trade was announced she was in a meeting with all the other owners n it seemed fishy that a year was going on so quick n really like a premeditated deal so it got the veto so other teams could get a chance at an offer
@@ignitebridgeiii5425 there's nothing fishy about it, I'm not going to agree to a trade that does nothing for me but benefits you and an upset employee.
Wow so Minnesota potentially lost out on winning a championship because of a very illegal and irresponsible move on their part. Now I understand why sometimes some franchises are so mediocre: poor management
poor management and luck on that matter. I bet each of all teams in the NBA has a dead body in the closet. The Wolves are just unlucky they get exposed. lol
Cavs had 3 number 1 picks in 4 years and ended up with Kyrie, Wiggins and Anthony Bennett. If not for Lebron they would of been in the lottery market matters but bad management supersedes all that
NBA screwed the Twolves back in 2004, they had a real chance of winning the tittle and what did the NBA do? They did a Sacramento Laker rubbery with ironically the same team they loved… the Lakers
With the Lakers and CP3 trade I think you forgot to mention how they ended up “luckily” landing the #1 pick that landed them AD & I feel made it more attractive to potential buyers which eventually worked considering they sold him to the saints owner
The Lakers had enough shady moves. That Chris Paul deal was as fair as the Kwame Brown trade, super lopsided. And nobody bats an eye 👁 at that. So people complaining about it need to shut up and cut ✂️ the crap 🙄
Whats even stranger is AD ended up on the Lakers anyways, and he plays when he feels like it and thats not often enough. LA got their pseudo bubbledome covid trophy which in my eyes really doesnt mean much
As a Spurs fan I was really pissed when Morris didn't sign with the Spurs we don't have many moves back then and we really need a good big men. Then this happen he didn't sign to the Spurs and we lose Bertans who blossomed on Washington. That agent shady AF
Of course the infamous Chris Paul Lakers trade , and David Stern Vetoed it , Lakers fans will always remember how they got screwed over that deal , Kobe could’ve gotten that 6th ring if he had prime CP3
9:20 when you mentioned Carlos boozer, I know this is a year later so you didn't have this information but new information has come out with him being on the Dan lebatard show that he could not sign with Cleveland because the way they set it up he would have gotten in trouble. So he had to leave but the front office used that negativity that the fans perceived as him leaving to not take the blame themselves.
That Joe Smith one doesn't make sense, why is that not allowed? If both parties are okay with it, seems like a reasonable strategy lol and any team is capable of doing it....
It was a multi-year agreement that wasn't reflected in the actual contract. Like idiots, they actually wrote the thing down. Under the rules, they couldn't offer Smith that multi-year deal. The agreement was to prevent one of them from backing out of it in the middle of the agreement. Not sure how that'd be enforced, but that's why they're idiots. By circumventing Joe Smith's free agency after each season, they were breaking the rules. They could have offered Smith 3 consecutive minimum deals, but I suspect they felt he might not see that through to the end if there wasn't an explicit agreement.
Man Minnesota forever screwed up Garnett’s early career!! Could’ve honestly had more rings for the team he gave everything for! Until they screwed him!
These lawyers/agents are working with the powers that be. They are tricking these players into being poor after their careers, with purposely bad advice/investments and literally robbing them in most cases. They don't have your best interest at heart! They are apart of a greater plot. 👁
That trade to the Lakers was terrible and one-sided. That's why it was vetoed. The Clips offered a much more interesting trade with an actual well-valued asset at the time. Please take everything in context.
Plus, the fact that Stern had been publicly and visibly riding the Lakers' jock for years at that point made the deal especially egregious. He looked really bad when the deal was first struck.
7:40 the CP3 trade veto is one of the most bizarre pieces of nba history I’ve been around for. But I never understood the “the nba didn’t want the lakers to be too good” argument. The lakers are the most storied franchise in league history and before the Warriors burst onto the scene were the most valuable franchise. The league is better off in every way if the Lakers are good, same with the Knicks. I’ll never understand why the biggest market teams feel like there’s an agenda against them. What good business would handicap their cash cow?
Let’s not forget the Patrick Ewing draft debacle and then cp3 as mentioned… also the hornets magically were owned by the league again and guess what 2012 Anthony Davis.
UDONIS HASLEM and the HEATS!!! This is by far the most criminal under the table deal in the NBA and you didn’t mention it. HASLEM is still sitting on the bench collecting paychecks from the Heats while Pat Riley is shining his championship rings!
Wasn't there one of DeAndre Jordan where he wanted to sign with the Mavericks. But the Clippers like...locked him in a room or something until he resigned with the Clippers
You should have compared the Clippers trade package to the Lakers trade package for CP3 maybe it was legitimately better? Good video just lacking a few extra details
Joe Smith fired the agents who were involved in the transaction which was end heavy. Imagine you get paid little for what would be something huge. Stupidity all around and how Joe Smith ended up broke adds to this.
Kevin Garnett to Lakers. According to Jerry Buss, he had a handshake deal to acquire the dude but then instead he’s traded to the Celtics. Buss claims that McHale the GM being a former Celtic didn’t like the idea of giving his franchise player to his rival team back in his playing days.
@@cwhitney1972 Handshake deal with the owner Glen Taylor. Apparently he wasn’t happy with Garnett getting traded to Celtics which was a contributing factor to McHale getting fired a year later. Lakers also had a better package offering both Odom and Bynum and a couple of picks.
What was important was what did the clippers give the hornets in return for Chris Paul? I'm sure it was a better offer than what the Lakers gave which is why the NBA said no to begin with. It wasn't about Chris Paul going to the Lakers it was what the hornets got in return.
Derek Anderson did the Spurs wrong like that too.. Signed with Spurs over Portland then after 1 year asked to get out of his contract to restructure for the team but just left to play with the blazers.
The Barley trade between PHX, DAL and HOU was shady AF. HOU would have been better with a young Sam Cassell and Robert Horry than a just past his prime Barkley.
Forgetting the Cavs/Lakers trade: Jordan Clarkson/Larry Nance for a top 3 pick and an injured Isaiah Thomas on an expiring contract. Next year Lebron heads to the Lakers... shady af!
why not include Derrick Fisher asking out of his contract in Utah to get his kid medical treatment only to turn around and sign with the lakers??? Thats easily as sketchy as boozer..
@@seankierre9369 if that were the only reason, he wouldn't have immediately signed with LA. Fisher said treatment was possible in "6 or 7 different cities" but miraculously he picks LA and signs with the lakers. He has a history of signing deals then asking out when he doesn't like the situation (did it again in Houston and Dallas). His whole career (playing and coaching) is pretty shady (just ask Matt Barnes). Just got fired as head coach/gm of the Sparks btw. Dude is sketchy
I wish AK was in his prime rn. I know his scoring was streaky, but he's 6'9" 220, could handle the ball and defend 5 positions... like a taller, less offputting version of Draymond Green. If I'm not mistaken, I THIIINK AK was the last dude to get a 5×5 in the NBA but i could be tripping
