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Igor, My wife and I watch your videos for almost 10 years now and have purchased your fantastic courses. Thanks for making us much better at chess. Today she leaned over my shoulder while I was watching this video and I thought she was going to ask me a a technical chess question, but instead, she said, "how in the world does Igor seem to look younger every year? What's his secret? LMAO.
I've come across the Colle when looking at the London System, but also interested in the modern version of the Colle, The Colle-Koltanowski System Something I've never looked at before (until now)
Thank you for the video, it was very informative and I’m definitely going to add this to my opening repertoire! To answer the question at the end, no you can’t play Bg5 because black can play Bf8 and trap your queen.
But why ? I think After Bg5 Bf8 White has Bf4 attacking the Black Queen too support by the Rock and the queen, also it free the g5 case for the escape of the white Queen. If Black bishop take the Queen in h6 white take the Queen with bishop in c7 freat the Black Rook in d8 with the bishop, also freat the black bishop in h6 with the rock
@@rayleighsilvers5768 this is true, but black still stops the attack and has the initiative. If you put this position into the engine, it evaluates the position as -0.5 in black’s favour.
I first learned about the Colle System when I was in high school (early 1970s) from Irving Chernev's little classic, "Logical Chess, Move by Move." I've used it since then with varying success.
@@jeraldmcgowin4162 Chernev was Master strength, but could communicate with beginners and intermediate level folk, and his clarity and love of teaching the game shone through. I am in his debt and always recommend his books. Most of mine are old and in descriptive, but Move by Move was reprinted in algebraic and I snapped it up. Cheers.
Bg5 works....If Black plays Bf8 trapping White's Queen, simply sac the Queen for the Bishop...then no matter what Black plays, White follows up with BxNf6, followed by Ng5....with winning continuations no matter Black's play.
Finally hit 1100 in rapid! Thank you Igor, you’ve helped me tremendously! I feel like I’ve been stuck in a rut for years and you’ve helped me think differently about my game. I appreciate your lessons & methods so much
Just like the White Stonewall, when those times do occur it is a moment to savor like not many other you could ever experience. Especially while playing a much superior player. Against a player you wouldn't have had a snowball's chance of beating without the system. Ain't nothing like that feeling !
I love this opening, and use it ll the time now with increased success. I greatly appreciate you sharing it. As I advance (850-950) I find opponents increasingly have some serious disruptors to prevent me creating the initial position - eg: a. ...2(or ...3, or4) B-F5 blocking my intended bishops development to D3. b. …2(or later) P-E5 attacking my positional pawn on on D4. If I ignore it, he forwards it to e4 blocking my pawn advance and forking my bishop and night!! c. And Occasionally ….P-C5 d. The position rarely occurs when his knight and bishop are in the position, you decribe, to be forked by my P-E5 e. Also, I occasionally try this opening when I am black, and am feeling my way to occasional success with it. Do you recommend this? f. I wonder, with this and maybe other aspects, if there is enough here to create a follow up video on this excellent opening. If not, any comments from you, on these aspects, would be welcome. Thanks again for this (and others) excellent video(s). Schaun.
Yes bishop can go to Bg5, all whites pieces are covered, if black Bh2 check, N can cover, or R can come down, lf queen takes Rook, N or Q can come down and take. Leaving black with no high powered pieces. Take longer to win, but it will happen . Just want to mention, b3 should be played in order to protect the bishop from getting pushed away. ( blacks c4 push)
So it's like the Slav, I've always wondered why openings that look the same have different names depending on color, except the kings Indian, like the Sicilian and the English
I've seen "Sicilian Attack" mentioned as an alternative name for the English actually. There's also the Stonewall Attack, which is the Stonewall variation of the Dutch with colours reversed. So maybe the Colle should be called the "Slav Attack".
I posted the same comment here as well as a few replies to comments, all on the similarities with the stonewall. One great advantage on these opening "systems" is that when you play them constantly you begin to recognize bad or wasted moves by Black. Also, that Black is often the one scrambling and not us. Lol
The Colle works great as long as black castles king side. It's still a strong initial set up defensively, and you can win from here even if black stays in the center or castles queen side, but it results in a long, protracted battle.
Yoooo i did this for the first time a few mins ago and DESTROYED my opponent. They did somethings different but i kept the exact same setup you said, i ended up getting their Queen and they resigned lol. Thanks!
Back in 1980, when our chess team went to State, this is the opening I played as white. We ended up winning state. It was the first time in at least 5 years that Yasser Seirawan's high school team didn't win state.
► Chapters 00:00 Chess opening to WIN in 8 moves 00:25 Happy New Year 2022! 01:39 Colle System: Do NOT underestimate 03:46 Evil trap humans almost can't see 05:22 Tactical pattern: sacrifice on h7 07:45 Kingside Attack: The rook lift 10:03 Bring your queen to the attack 12:26 Can you find the best move?
This is a good example why I hate "youtube chess teachers". In the real world, under 2000 ELO, 99% of people plays c4 with black. But here there is not a single mention to it.
C4 is advantageous for white as he explains in another video on the system. Does it accomplish anything? No. Bishop still controls diagonal if you pull back to C2. Impossible to cover every variation in a single video unless you want an hour long+ masterclass. Just drop the bishop back and then proceed to break the center. Now black has an isolated pawn and wasted a move.
Whenever I play this (around 1700 level) black uses anti Colle tactics, so it never goes down these pleasant lines for white, and often ends up in more of a queens gambit declined position.
First time out . Checkmate on move 17. Exactly as you described. However I lost the next two . As my opponents made that opening impossible. This makes a case for having a repertoire instead of trying only one favourite play. But thank you for this addition to mine.
Hi GM Smirnov, thanks for this. The way I have been thinking about the Colle is as an upgraded London. I think the Fianchetto gives it a little more power and flexibility and addresses some of the drawbacks of the London. Namely that weak b2 square...I do realize it is not often played at the higher levels, I see the London more often. People forget that the purpose of these White systems is to get into a Middlegame without falling into traps, tricks, gambits that Black can do to equalize. I don't mind showing this to the kids, there is nothing that can turn someone off to chess more than getting checkmated quickly. For a kid this could be very discouraging. People disparage these systems, but if you want to castle and not really lose any pieces, they actually work. If a player is flexible with the move order and still paying attention to what Black is doing, these are still very playable. I'm thinking for those under or near 1000 Elo, this is a great option.
Nice video. You didn't mention Black's most logical resource, in my opinion. White's white squared bishop is central to this opening, therefore it makes sense for Black to trade bishops by b6 and Ba6, the black knight stays on b8 to support this. Normally, the bishop on d3 will be on the same diagonal as the rook on f1, so White loses the exchange by avoiding the trade. The absence of the white squared bishop negates the opportunity to play the Greek Gift sacrifice, etc. If White tries to stop the trade with Qe2, then a5 puts the trade back on. White can sometimes play c4 to oppose the bishop trade, but the game is now much more about central tension than White having a free hand on the king side. It is still a solid opening for White, but by playing the above, Black gets less passive positions than in the video.
Lol I watched the video and won in a 10 minute rapid game on Lichess. Literally the first time I played this opening. Instead of e6 he played the more natural move (I think) Bg4. I still attacked the centre, but computer thought e4 should be played before Re1. Very interesting
It is the Colle, named after Edgard Colle, a strong player from the 1920s. They are very different systems. The white Q bishop is developed despite never moving, as e3-e4 is always coming. You can combine the Colle or Colle-Zukertort with the London and the Torre to respond to just about anything Black plays.
Play colle a lot. Have most problems when black plays c4 and attacks my c3 bishop. Can move my bishop but hard to get rid of c4 pawn. C4 is blacks best move with his pawn on d5. Any suggestions? Thanks.
Ok...You can't just continue to develop this system "whatever black does" when black decides to completely depart from the standard development shown in the video. :D Apparently, my opponent has his own mind when it comes to playing against this opening, and now I'm in trouble. ;) 1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. e3 Nf6 4. c3 Bg4 5. Bd3 Bxf3 Can you maybe address some strategies for making the system work when black decides to develop the white bishop early?
Unfortunately when I play this system, black never plays these pasive moves and I struggle!! I find the same with all these type of instructional videos from all the chess content creators. I am a beginer so I guess I just need to preserve!
Odd that you didnt call the Bxh7+ its most common name - The Greek Gift Sacrifice. I used to worry about it and had to be aware of potential threats against g7 as well. Since I started playing exclusively KID, KIA, Pirc, Gruenfeld systems, I don't have those kind of worries. I play every day almost and from a KID or Pirc perspective, Colle is a hard setup to crack.
Yeah, after 15. ....... Rd8, white cannot play 16. Bg5 because white will then lose the queen after black plays Bf8. So it looks like white has to retreat the queen or Rh3 to make moving room for the queen.
Sir after bishop d3 if opponent plays pawn C4 supported by pawn D4 which is the best way to counter this , im a beginner and while playing London system ,so many time faced this move
I'm a terrible chess player, been playing this and went from 743 to 880 this week, I still don't really pull off any of these slick moves but it seems solid, I don't really like it as black either but it's better than what I usually do apparently haha
12:40 After Rd8, Bg5 is still a good move but I think black can defend by playing Be7. Then after Bxf6 Bxf6 Qxh7+ Kf8, white can't play Qh8 due to the bishop on f6 which also attacks the white rook on h4.
One advantage of using these opening "systems" is that by using them primarily, you learn to adjust. You begin to instantly recognize opponent's bad or wasted moves. Lol. I always use the similar white stonewall. Funny? Yeah, cuz I always take my time on my first seven moves or so. I pretend I am in deep thought. If you open very quickly the opponent's antennae may go up and he might guess you are using a prepared opening and you might jar his memory from his previous encounters with it. When I use my stonewall I get my pieces on their desired squares about 80% of the time. Not bad, eh?... But yes, a supreme player might make minced meat out of you by just bringing out his queen and knight or bishop and go on conquering spree from jump-street. BUT, if an equally matched player tries that stuff he will often get himself in deep doo-doo. That is why this narrator is showing us reasonably sound moves by Black under normal conditions. And like he said here, regarding that Black might attack on White's queen side. Just ignore it. Same thing happens with my Stonewall. I laugh to myself cuz it gives me tempo. I can afford a few of his moves chipping away there until it needs attention. In more than just a few games, I've ended with wins while being one move away from being check-mated myself.... Try one of these "systems" and STICK TO IT ! Play it online for 30 min. games or a bit less.. Play it at least 500 games or so. You'll see !
@@lawrenceehrbar8667 Hi buddy I liked your comment. What is your preferred triggers to switch between Colle, London and Stonewall? I used to have some notes on this but I have misplaced them.
@@Flash4freedom LOL... I only really know the Stonewall. "Systems" are much easier than "Theory". Theory for me is pretty much out of the question. Regarding the other two systems you mentioned they both look similar to the Stonewall. I'll get back to direct you to a great Stonewall tutorial. Very easy to follow along.
I've now have played several games using your queen pawn opening and it has been working great!!Thanks for making another great video you are a great teacher!!
Igor, Without using a pc program I have analysed the position at the end of your video where you say "Can white still play Bg5 after blacks move Rd8?" I think no. After Bg5 Black can play Bf8 and the Queen is trapped. Now if White continues the attack with BxN, Black plays BxQ followed by white's RxB. We see here after a long look at the board, should black play Qf4 attacking rook and Bishop and stopping Ng5 and so now forces white to play Bg5 sending the queen back to c7, or should black play Rd5 threatening RxN on g5? ruining all of whites threats. But what if White defends the Knight with h4? After RxN pxN and there is now a possibility white could double the rooks on the h file and mate black on h8.!! or chase it to d7 with multiple threats of winning material and the game on blacks Queenside. Black could send the Queen to f4 after white takes the rook with h4 pawn and the queen tries to to get to e2 square threatening the Bishop on d3, but white stops that with R(a)- e1 and after Qd2 White just plays Re3 protecting the Bishop and ready to connect rooks on h3. Black must play e5 so the Bishop can stop whites Rh3. white cannot connect rooks on h3 and white takes the e pawn.. What does black do? maybe Be6? but either way Bishop is saving the mate after Rxh7 Kxh7 and Rook to h3 ch and then h8 mate. Black now can develop the Rook to c8 but is this enough? I think so, yes. Because before white can formulate a plan of Rh5 and h4 to block the Bishop from the h3 square, Black is threatening Rc1ch and a mate. So all in all I think White would have to play g3 so if Rc1ch , Kh2 Qxb2 and white is safe yes, but is in danger of the connected black pawns coming down the board.
Bf8 traps Queen but after Q×f8 followed by B×N white has still strong attacking advantage for threatening R×h7 by placing N on e5, g4 or Ng5 &g4 so Bg5 is playable.
What is the best way to avoid this trap with this opening? 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.e3 Bg4 4.e3 Bxf3 5.Qxf3 Qd6 6.Bd3 O-O-O 7.Nd2 e5 8.dxe5 Nxe5 9.Qd1 Nxd3+ 10.Ke2 Qa6 11.b3 Nxd1
I really like the zukertort opening but what if black fianchetto his dark squared bishop in 3rd or 4th moves after we play e3? Since we block our dark squared bishop with the pawn, i generally have a problem in that kind of situation. And also our valuable light's squared bishop's diagonal is closed in that way. What should be our response?
Black should move bishop to h2, sacrificing the bishop to capture the pawn.. Reason 1: white can either recapture with the rook or slide the king back Reason 2: a skilled enough player can afford to capture white’s rook with a queen sacrifice, which is delaying white from getting black’s h7 pawn because white will have to take blacks queen to prevent threats from the piece, such as winning the rook on a1 Reason 3: once the rook is captured, black can move the g6 knight to f4 and attack white’s queen before the checkmate can be set in motion
Ill stop hitting ur channel though it is really worth , just because the running writing on the chess board stops the full view of the pieces and its distracting too .
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