The Motorhome And Industrial 413 & 440 Mopars 

I love the way Tony looks at the camera after saying backwards pistons. That's right stand your point Tony.......

Love the pause and look after “stock pistons turned around backwards.” Lol!

When people say Charger, this is what I think of- A big, bad beast. It's an "Ultra" cool car!

6:16 "It's got the stock pistons...turned around backwards..." *stares silently at the camera* Perfect, Tony. Just the right amount of attitude there. :-D

Girls building they're own engines, ur a lucky man unk, cheers to both of ya.

I just love these old 66' - 67 Chargers. My brother got one for his first car back in about 1974. It was a 1967 with the 2 barrel 383. It was blue with a black interior. The previous owner had put slotted mags on it. The 4 bucket seats and the front and back consoles were so cool to me. The instrument panel with all of the gauges and the 150 mph speedometer were impressive to 14 year old me. At night the gauges gave off a cool blue light at night that was so bad ass looking. I still think that body style is one of the best to ever come out of Detroit. Even now when I look at cars for sale I make a point to look at these Chargers.

I love them old Chargers.

Back in the 1980's a farmer bought a 440 from a salvage yard for his farm machinery. The dealer wanted a fortune to rebuild the factory engine. Farmer got pissed and bought the 440 without even knowing it would fit. He another guy worked at, welded some brackets and made it fit. Something about radiator hose, they had to siamese two or three hoses to make it reach. But it worked and it had more power than the factory engine.

It was worth watching just for the flipped piston stare.

I love the old Uncle Tony’s garage. With Uncle Kathy on the camera.

A good shop with a frame rack and someone good should be able to straighten that frame no cutting needed.

A couple of things: The reason the industrial motors had a different water pump setup was to elevate the fan. This was done to get the fan closer to the center of the large rads. The Charger, don't cut the frame, take it to a body shop and have them pull it on a bench. This will bring everything back into shape.

Can anyone else smell these videos? Uncle Tony should make candles.

Went to school with a guy who's dad owned a wrecking yard. Well he had a square body Chevy truck he'd use to help his dad out at the yard with and one day and old Cadillac came into the yard so I helped him shove that Caddy 500 in his truck and topped it off with an 1150 quadra pumper. That thing would haul anything except for enough fuel and had some broad shoulder's to it.

Got a 72 413 .030" over 292 .480" cam with stealth heads in my 74 Duster that went 12.90 with 452 unported heads, going to see what it does at Mopar fest in union grove with the stealth heads.

mentions turning around pistons, stares deeply into camera.

They were replacement engines for the M113 personnel carrier, for the inf. during Vietnam. That's a neat story too. They were installed on School bus frames too.

I have an industrial 318 in my '71 Dart. I've learned so much about industrial engines because of it. Beast of an engine!

She built the engine? Maybe you need to get her to be the mechanic on bottle rocket!

I use to work on a lot of motor homes.... especially the Dodge....the military truck version of those had grease fittings on everything even the water pump, idler pulley's etc ..

Nice job on building the 440 engine in the 67 charger ultra Kathy 👍👍

Opened up the rings for boost? Hell yeah! that charger would be awesome with a blower

I would have liked a slightly longer clip of the charger hit'n it HARD!

I simply can't express how much I love that Charger. We just don't see stuff like that in the UK. I would happily swap all my vehicles for that car.

Mack also used Chrysler industrial engines in the R model series during the mid 60's. They were phasing out their own gasoline engines even though some truck buyers still wanted gas then.

I really like the dash design and layout on the first generation chargers.

In the Navy in 68, our aircraft tow tractors were international harvester with big block Mopar.

Borrowed father-in-laws 440 Winnebago to go to Maryland from Mass. 14 miles out brakes fail. Replaced lines at rest stop. On the trip home 14 miles out radiator hose fails. Found a tractor supply store that had specialized upper hose for 440 BB...from a tractor. Made it home ok.

Yep, I got lucky finding my 73 Motorhome 440! Just take it to a frame shop! Probably be 2 hrs of work

4yrs ago i passed on a 413 from a 70 D600 water truck..because a well known mopar guru told me there was too much difference between a truck eng and a passenger car engine...he said" the crank snout was too big...basically nothing passenger vehicle stuff would not work to convert it to use in my D100 pick up" so i let it get cut up for scrap...had i known i could do a head swap and other stuff i wouldve saved the engine....thanks frie#€$$@r...wish i knew uncle tony earlier

You should be a cameraman for the day and let Kathy spread some knowledge, or at least do a duet engine build.

My dad had a 70’s winnebago with a 413 four barrel, it wasn’t very fast but it never let us down.

I'll say it again, the offset pin piston reversal was in the Direct Connection (DC) performance bulletins for racers in the 1970s. I went to a technical bookstore one time and raided the Mopar stuff and found some NOS DC bulletins and that trick came from the factory. Told you how to make an OEM Thermoquad work on an Edelbrock STR in there too. Those bulletins must've been like gold back in the day - factory having the little guy's back 'an all.

"I think I did open up the rings" - I thought Uncle Kathy built the 440, not you Tony.

I would pull it on a frame machine before cutting anything. You probably have 20-25 years more experience than me, but.... You should try to stretch it back out bro. Nice find

I asked about a motor home 440 last night on the live stream😂…your the man Uncle T

I was building 413s 440s for the local utility in the late 70s early 80s and they had these engines in their digger/derrick line trucks. They also had 413s in water pumps and some stationary engines and i seem to remember those had gear drive cams. They thought they had a lot of rear main seals leaking, but we found that the "dipstick tubes" were loose in the block and the rotation of the crank was throwing the oil out around the tube and the angle of the block let the oil run to the back and look like a rear main seal. Bad "mechanics" cost that company a lot of money by replacing engines that did'nt need replacing!

Some Industrial knowledge,71 and earlier had gear drive and reverse rotation cam, also reverse rotation distributor drive to drive the distributor and oil pump in standard rotation. 72 and later had factory double roller timing chains. The later 413’s were under bored 440’s, I have one that was safely bored .162” over and sonic checked. I also have one stamped 440 but still has its factory 4.185” bore. And they did make headers, a lot of motor homes had a tube header that fits the industry flange.

Back in the '90s my folks had a 13-ton, 40' WL 1948 Matthews sedan cruiser (mahogany on white oak, Monel-fastened). The original motors were Packard straight 8s, but it was repowered in 1962 to twin 413s...and they were niiiiice.

When we (i was 12) went to the USA in 1978 we had a dodge champion motorhome with the 440 in it. 🇭🇲❤️🇺🇲

Best looking charger ever made.

To fix the frame buckle, tie it to a tree, hook up a winch or come along and pull from the exact angle it was hit and it'll straighten out, will require love taps but it'll come straight. Watched it done to my brothers 82 GT after hitting a deer, we traded the local mopar guy some parts to lend us his body man and he did it in our yard.

Slant 6 went into a ton of forklifts. I had a guy eating out of my hand who didn't know that. He was working a job that needed a working forklift everyday. He walked into my dad's part store with a long face and water pump dangling from his hand. I had the pump on the counter when he finally reached me. He said he had been all over town and everyone kept asking him make, model and year. "And you came here last?" I asked him.

That’s my favorite style charger.

Just seen some 440’s In a boat on the Car Wizard RU-vid channel.

Great video Tony, thanks. Those angle plug heads were commonly used on the 413-3 and -4 in 'big' Dodge trucks like the D-600 and larger. A lot of them had dual oil filters and oil coolers in addition to the special heads. Low compression, hard faced valves, valve rotaters, and forged cranks too. There were similar versions of the low deck 361 as well.

Kool info thanx! We put a 73 motorhome 440 in a 65 belvedere2 30 years ago just got it back out this year after sittin 20 years Runs like a clock!!!

I had a rambler that was hit in the rear end and buckled a bit over the rear wheels. I lifted it high with a jackal, placed some solid blocks under the back and kicked the jack out and let it drop. Did it a few times and it straightened right out.

I have pulled 440-6 block from an unmolested 71 imperial. Had a 71 dodge van I picked.up.for scrap that had a 340 in it with 25k original miles parked forever 71 Plymouth suburban wagon also had a 440-6 with a 2 barrel intake I've been lucky enough to find these so no matter what your scrapping just check because at the end.of a run year the plants just used whatever extra they had to get rid of pretty unreal makes you wonder what else is out there just because

you talk about places to find chrysler engines ! me being a total dodge boy at heart! I got cornered at a cruise night by a guy I sorta knew, he knew I know my way around things ,! so he wanted me to go with him to look at a 26 foot day cruiser that had just got traded in a big marina! so off we go, this thing needed a lot of love! the female sales person , told us it arrived on a trailer and the wanted it gone! it was filthy dirty ! , so the never touched it they helped us get into the water! and it had 2 engines in it with 2out drives! she handed us the keys and said take it out and see wat you think! be care full we were told it works good and floats they never got around to do any thing to it so we started on engine and idled away from the place, she wouldn't set foot on the boat in the condition it was in ! my ears perked up as soon as I heard the engine start! we started the second engine and the buyer was getting cold feet ! the marina wanted 5 grand for the boat as is where is! I told him you are buying the dam boat! why he says ? I went back cleared the junk off the floor boards and got the floor lifted up ! there sat 2 426 hemi marine engines ideling away !I told him shut up say nothing to the sales woman buy it now! the 2 engines are worth more than the boat all day long! so he made the deal! all said and done paper work signed! it was his! one of the guys that worked there when we loaded it on the trailer which was a piece of work in it self!! why would you buy that piece of crap ! thats when the guy who bought it opened his mouth and told the guy about the hemi"s all tho I told him to shut up! we got out of there before the shit hit the fan! and the guy run to the owners about it fun ride towing home behind my ram half ton truck! shows to go you never know where you find gold!

Motorhome big blocks!! Need to find an old banks power draw through turbo setup from one to go with those engines.

I have a picture somewhere of a 413 modified to run standing on end. They claim it ran like 20-30 thousand hours (there's 8,760 hours in a year) on an irrigation well. Never went deeper than points and a valve lash on it. My boss had a pair of slant sixes on an irrigation pump. Someone would come out to work on the well or the sprinklers, and spend a half hour fiddling with vacuum gauges trying to get them pulling the load equally. He shut them back down til dark, and when he fired them up, set the throttles by the glow of the mufflers.

I have 1960’s 361 industrial engine that came with the 413 industrial heads. But Tony you left out the 8 bolt flanges that they come with if they were in a medium duty. The crank will not work with a normal big block bell housing. The flange is about a 1/2” further out, and has 8 bolts so the crank can’t be used for a normal car/truck. If you watch the Roadkill episode with that 60’s D100 where they grab that big block bell housing, it’s actually the industrial bell housing that will not work with a regular crank. A divider plate is part of those bell housings for that 1/2” out flange. Also has a hydraulic clutch master cylinder bolted to it. So if you see six bolts you’re good, 8 bolts you will need a crank. Also a good identification for the medium duty blocks with the 8 bolt flange is an large letter T cast on the side of the block. My 361 has the T upside down, but it shows it’s a “truck” block for the bigger trucks. And there also is a 1 through 5 number cast next to the T. As far as I know the higher the number the stronger the block. Example my 361 is a T-4 block. You should only see this on the 361 and 413 engines.

I remember in Summer of 1973 while working in Canal Flats BC.; the town has purchased a new fire truck. It was equipped with a 413.

You forgot about the sodium filled exhaust valves in the 413 industrial.

I had an old motorhome with the 413.. that damn thig ran so smooth I couldn't even tell it was running.

I had a 1964 Imperial with a 413 in it. Was a great running car.

I remember seeing a late 60’s-early 70’s Mack R-400 single axle tractor with a factory 413. Little known fact

I saw an old welder once with an industrial hemi in it. Had a 1 bbl carb on it. And of course they used hemis in the air raid sirens.

I can't wait to have a car to put a big block 440 on one day. Hopefully I find a 68 coronet like the one I had stole from me when my dad died...

You forgot to mention on the 440 truck and motor home engines 440-1 single chain and 14mm plugs.440-3 dual roller chain and peanut plugs I believe valve rotators. I’ve seen some 413 motor home engines with backwards carbs.

My 74 Titan RV has the 440-3, forged steel crank, 5/8" GM style plugs that go straight in, and the dual horn air cleaner. Build plate says chassis was made in April 73 and just coming up on 73K miles. Absolutely spotless inside as all it's gets is oil changes, new valve cover gaskets (roasts em) and few miles.... Ya can't have it - still has many campgrounds to visit... 8-)

that charger is by far my favourite out of your fleet need MORE of it

Love your 67 charger Uncel Tony 👍👍

I just picked up a motorhome engine for 600 and the 727 came with it! Now let's get started! I like 440s!

Very informative it's nice to know about the six pack bottom ends in the trucks and motorhomes but one thing Uncle Tony that fender is not fubar remember what the acronym actually is that fender can be straightened and if you can fix the frame I'm sure it'll line up real nice but it's not fubar see you tomorrow

That was nice of you, to treat us to a burn-out, on your way out 🙂

If I recall correctly, Paul Rossi said the motorhome blocks had an additional horizontal rib on the side of the block. Perhaps I'm not remembering correctly.

Also marine 440 and 413 for lots of salt water fun...lol. and counter rotating engines on two Eng applications..

Another spot thar 440s found a home in was WWII air raid sirens

Awesome cruiser! Looking forward to seeing the frame fix!

Would be very cool if you added in the motorhome small block differences from passenger car engines. Also even cooler would be the motorhome transmissions differences from cars. Cool video though. Love learning new things about cool old stuff

Great info!!👍 Sounds like Ultra Kathy built a healthy engine!!! Ultra Kathy is very talented, I bet she can do just about everything.😎 I love that year Charger. Now I'm off to see what ya did at Jim's shop.

I love the aerodynamics of those chargers. That car needs plymouth prowler purple ! Great car for running cross country. I had a 440 in my 78 winnebago had extra oil capacity think it was like 8 quarts that thing would tow our 26ft enclosed hallmark elite 2 with no problem those were the days, pulled up in an old winnebago that had a nicer living set up than most new homes of the time.

Love that first gen charger

I just bought my 1973 440 w/ forged crank for $995 and 727 trans w/ big block bell housing for $650. Found them on eBay in Idiana.

My 75 motorhome 440 has standard bore size, just used stock replacement rings and the gap is perfect. Like I got the motor off the assembly line almost, minus the grease and grime😂

LOVE THEM DIRECT CONNECTION COVERS...FUCK YEAH!

Im digging those badass direct connection valve covers. Those babies are wicked nice

Our 75 Winnie has the 440 with the peanut plugs

The 66-67 Chargers are my favorite. I especially like the interiors. They had a fabulous dash.

Everything except for the delivery details one that Charger to my house. 😃😉👍💯 Great job and good day to you all!

Damage Dozer and a 3 lb sledgehammer is all ya need. Just keep tapping to slowly work out the stress. Can also use an air chisel with a flat body hammer face bit to rattle it out (noisy as hell though!) NO HEAT!!

Mack also used the 413 but make badged it as the 414 for diehard gas truck owners

Just bought an 88 Dakota with a 78 Motorhome 440 in it.in the process of redoing the old owner's horrible work on it...lol. Literally everything I have touched on it has needed some level of re-work done to it.

The 413 was also used to power some of the B Model Mack trucks too.

I absolutely love 66/67 chargers

Perfect ending Tony. Thanks!

get it on a frame machine and heat the buckle when pulling.

The industrial engines sound like something that'd be pretty good to put into a turbo application, where you'd more than likely leave the manifolds anyway with the benefit of the better exhaust cooling to not burn the valves out.

My motorhome 1970 413 had the huge (heavy) waterpump and heads, direct drive cam to crank gears(backwards camshaft?) And heavy duty harmonic balance. Front sump, dished pistons, and still had crosshatching on the walls.

I love this Charger so much, more so when it spanked the white modern Charger :)

Always got some of my better Mopar builds out of a motorhome. Right now I have a 72 Dodge motorhome with a 360 and 727 with only 37,000 mi on it. That I'm just waiting for the right body to come along.

My older sister ordered a Bronze 383/ 4 speed Charger black interior a month before they came out in '66 . At 5'3", 98 pounds, she could barely push in the clutch, LOL! I was 13 and thought she was the worlds coolest sister! It was really cool getting dropped off at the front door of the school every morning since my school was right on the way to work for her. Growing up in a Detroit Suburb, we weren't very far from Woodward Ave and of course she cruised with it. She dabbled in street racing but if she won. it was because someone had a 283 or just let her win. With her struggle with the clutch and the factory shifter, she wasn't really a contender... but she looked cool, the dual exhaust sounded good and people thought she was the Dodge girl from the comercials!! Anyways, she married a guy with a new black '68 383 Road Runner a few years later and blaa bla bla. I always loved the electroluminesent instrument cluster at night along with listening to her lear Jet 8 track with Jefferson Airplane, Beatles, Blues Magoos, Donovan, Yardbirds, etc, etc. playing from it. Just a fantastic aviance inside of it! OH, loved your dramatic pause afer saying you flipped the pistons on your 440, LOL!!!! I about fell over!

If memory serves me correctly, the 440 six pack was externally balanced that's why it had a different vibration dampener

would love to hear the story of uncle kathy and the 440 build.

I've got a 413 industrial out of a 1970 Dodge motor home. It was free, I just had to pull it. That was a pain in the butt though.

I got a nice 71 dodge N-80 military fuel truck, 49lb gvw. tandem rear axels, double frame. nice 413 industrial holley 2 barrel, governed. with 6 speed allision transmission and retarder...

Motor home 440's = the last real "bang for the the buck" value for the BBM platform. I sored a 73' with a forged crank and sub 30k miles for $100 about 2 yrs ago. Sits on a stand in my garage as a backup.

_PERFECT ENDING!_ Every video should end like this one!