The Movie That Made MGS Possible 

I love Carpenter more now that I know he made the production company drop the lawsuit against Kojima.

Can we just talk to a moment about how John Carpenter was just like "yeah i know kojima he's chill don't sue him" how fucking cool is that.

Escape from new york is awesome 👌 John Carpenter is a legend and a huge Gamer, he was offered the chance to take Kojima to court for plagiarism, But John Carpenter told the lawyer's to leave Kojima alone, as Carpenter said he loves Metal gear solid, and said Kojima had always been respectful to him. That is awesome 👌 Carpenter is a legend 🙌

Y'know, i been a lifelong MGS fan and massive John Carpenter fan (yes, I even enjoyed Ghosts of Mars) but it took me until this video I'm watching at age 30 to make the Ocelot/Lee Van Cleef connection. Holy shit.

The algorithm hid this one? It's on my front page two days later. Don't let this discourage you Jorin keep it up with the MGS videos especially V. :)

It’s very strange now that there are probably more people that knows of MG more than Escape from New York. John Carpenter is not that niche of a director. Time has changed.

Fantastic movie that inspired an equally fantastic video game series. Geniuses like Kojima and Carpenter are meant to inspire each other.

Speaking of music, the Afghanistan alert theme in MGSV is the most John Carpenter theme not written by John Carpenter, I love it

One of my favorite movies as a kid, mgs became one of my favorite games shortly after. David Hayter was the perfect VA for it, to really pull it off.

I got super high with my girlfriend last month and went "You know what, let's watch a movie I've been meaning for years to check out..." and watched Escape from New York. The entire time I was going "oh my god, Metal Gear is just this!" when I saw Lee van Cleef was in it. Like... c'mon.

Escape from New York is not only a movie. It is THE MOVIE. Kojima has always been a real cinephile.

Im glad this wasn't lost to time! Any chance that your Diamond Dogs "music video" can come back as well?

I pre-ordered MGS and had it the day it was released. It was SO OBVIOUS they were referencing Snake Plissken as soon as I heard that voice.

Surprised you didn’t include the exchange between Sam and his president mother about how there is no America to save. This is reminiscent of the line where Plissken says “President of what” to Van Cleef’s character when he brings up the president.

I also get huge Lawrence of Arabia similarities with MGSV. James Bond for the first 3 mainline games especially goldinger, from Russia with love, and Roger Moore’s the spy who loved me .

Might be worth re-releasing the video as it looked like this one has somehow been missed off everyone's feed!

Wow Kojima took something that I thought was pretty good and turned it into something I love

Jorin, great comparison to Snake to Clint Eastwood. This film was his Eastwood impression, Big Trouble in Little China was his John Wayne impression, and The Thing was his every man impression. That sums up John Carpenter and Kurt Russell's early 80's trilogy, before Carpenter gave the middle finger to Hollywood and decided to become a rock star.

hell yeah, john carpenter is a majorly underrated genius. thank you to Futurasound for calling attention to this seminal work.

I’m dressing up for Halloween as Snake Plissken! Holy shit Escape From New York is so goddamn good.

I'll check it out for sure. Carpenter is one of the greats even tho he's often left out of the conversation because of his accion-focus. They Live! is another classic, and the final fight between old Snake and Ocelot might've been inspired by the fight in that movie (among other influences).

both game and movie are masterpieces

This is getting me and my friends to rewatch the film. Great job as always

"There's nothing like the feeling of slamming an algo-boosting reference comment into a well greased comment box." - Revolver Ocelot

Kojima and Carpenter. Some of the greats in their fields.

I remember this movie. Back then, I was confused because I was also familiar with Metal Gear that time. I took a few years until I realized that the movie was Kojima's inspiration for his very popular franchise.

I think Kojima is a Big John Carpenter fan and also a Kurt Russell fan, and what better way to immortalize a great movie by giving Kurt Russell an immortal character that we all love.

I can't remember if you pointed this out in this video, but the snake on the chest as a visual is probably from this movie. Pliskin has a snake tattoo on his chest, The Boss and naked snake have a chest scar in the shape of a snake.

Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake is one if the most difficult games i have every tried to play. Because of this channel i got my hands on a PS3 and the master collection of MGS games. its slow going but i will play them all.

I always think of this as the first spirited snake, like they tie together and what all snakes have in common, they all get used.

Yeah I recently watched both New York and L.A., and could feel the inspiration for MGS from Nee York. Great movie

one thing I always liked about Solid Snake's character was how he never bought into his own legend. It appears he never really thought highly of himself, especially after darker revelations were revealed to him about his origins. He always pedestaled others such as Gray Fox, Master Miller, and even Big Boss(in skill and feats) higher than himself. This even extends to how Big Boss himself never bought into his own legend when he pedestaled The Boss higher than himself.

growing up in the 80s as a kid Escape from New York was awesome especially climbing up on my roof looking over the Hudson from jersey and seeing the towers ....... playing the Metal Gear Saga from the NES all the way up to PS4 with feeling that there was a lot missing from MGS5 .............. here it is 2021 usually by now we would have some type of trailer or news of the next installment but realization setting in we will never have another METAL GEAR SOLID ............ Komani give that man his game back

I wouldn't say that Escape From New York is necessarily a good "action" movie but its got vibes for days. It IS a really good movie but the action is not its selling point by any means.

This is awesome! I've always had an interest in the inspirations for MGS, but never looked into them. Also thinking about reading Paul Auster's New York Trilogy. Thanks for the upload Jorin.

Loving this. Of course most folks know about the look and name of Snake, but I missed so much references

I'm glad you were able to get this back up. I saw the notification when it was posted only to be met with the copyright notice. Escape From New York has always been one of my favorite movies, even before I got my first taste of Metal Gear on a PSX Sampler Disc w/ a partially translated MGS1 demo. Cheers to you and keep up the amazing work. Awesome to see your channel continue to grow!

2 days ago ? i watched ur feed this morning and this wasnt here, glad it came out

You know JC was playing the games! Good on him preventing the lawsuit from happening!

I think the Rambo and Lethal Weapon movies got a lot of inspiration for the Franchise. Rambo got an a Bandana. Every Rambo films got of a lot of stealth infiltration methods. And Snake got an a Bandana all the time. As for Lethal Weapon; the Snake character and another stuff looked like Rits ( the Police Officer ) at the beginning from the franchise, Snake looked like him. After when the Solid arises, the character designs changed a little. But inside at MGS2 Sons of Liberty. Snake looked a little more like Mel Gibson. Of course, the Policenauts games; got a lot of sense, and inspiring too on making the future of Metal Gear as a franchise.

I mean, look at the cover of the NES release of Metal Gear, it couldn't be any closer to the cover of Escape from New York, I think Snake is even holding that absurd Uzi with the suppressor with the scope on it. I remember seeing that movie a few years ago after I heard it was the inspiration for MGS and 2 scenes in it was like "yep, that is Snake from MGS1"

Please make another MGS3 video, I love your content and references!

Coincidentally just watched the movie for the first time a few days ago!

I like how RU-vid is trying to get me to buy or rent the movie like I don't already have a torrented copy from decades ago permanently saved to the "best movies" folder.

There is story from Kurt who was walking around with his eye patch and big gun he scared the local tugs just by his look.

Feel kinda full circle if Kojima and Carpenter ever join up for a Snake Plissken game plus could be funny jab at Konami to have Kojima say Snake is dead long live Snake and have Kurt Russell walk up fully geared and simply ask 'Miss me?'

Keep it up This stuff is gold Jerry! GOLD!!

Thanks for making all these videos.

Imitation is the highest form of flattery Carpenter was wise enough to know it.

It's cool to see that even today many people are escaping from new york and la.

I'm quite surprised I didn't see this earlier, and that it got taken down. But I must ask, where did you get the image of Venom in his leather diamond dogs jacket?

With your videos, Red Letter Media John Carpenter month and George Sahokihn (a MG streamer on yt) My Metal Gear quota is more than enough Thanks you so, so much

I'm currently playing Snatcher, it's damn amazing! There is so much great media in the world.

Nice! I always wanted to watch this one but it was taken down I believe. I remember seeing it listed in one of your playlists

Carpenter was going to sue that hack, until Kojima called him. Carpenter was then like, "hes nice, harmless nerd" and decided to throw him a bone and not sue.

I thought this was a live action mgs movie but i didn’t know this inspired metal gear

lol i didn't know they wanted to sue kojima over the music and that Carpenter "knows" Kojima

I rewatched the movie because of this excellent video, bravo my friend.

Escape From New York isn't the only influence for Solid Snake or Metal Gear Solid . Hideo Kojima said Solid Snake is inspired by Christopher Walken's character in the action movie The Dogs Of War .

You fuxking rock man. This is fucking great.

What a great film, get some popcorn and turn down the lights.

Don't let the bastards get you down

Thank you John Carpenter. Excellent presentation.

First Time I saw Images fom Escape from New York it blew my mind, holy shit this is like MGS that's where that came from! I had the same Thing seeing Scarface with Vice City as a Kid. Let's hope this Video stays up before the Patriot's Network claim it.

I've always said Kurt Russell would be perfect for the role of Solid Snake, and then i usually add "and Solid Snake from MGS1 was based on Kurt Russell!"

anyone else had his voice cutoff after "Note for note"

Criminally underrated

* I think if they ever decide to do a prequel trilogy that leads up to a remake of Escape from New York, I don't see the harm in saying that Snake Plissken quite literally "IS" Solid Snake from the Metal Gear games. It would certainly make Snake Plissken's world a whole lot bigger, and give him more of a backstory. However, the character should always look like Kurt Russell's Snake Plissken, so that there's no confusing that both characters are one and the same person. They could simply call the first prequel *ESCAPE.* Where they merge Snake Plissken and Solid Snake's background. Where he was originally named "David" by a woman who was one of the staff members working on project "Les Enfants Terribles". * However, for some reason he ended up in foster care(her doing perhaps?). He was adopted by a couple who formally named him "Bob" for whatever reason. For whatever reason, they could not care for him anymore, and he went back into foster care. Then, he would've been adopted by a man named "Plissken" and his wife. This man named "Plissken" would've been the leader of the Hells Angels motorcycle gang NYC chapter. He would not have wanted anyone to know that he couldn't have children of his own. So he and his wife would've put on some normal clothes and made themselves and their home look decent when they went in to sign the adoption forms. * They would do this so they could fool the adoption agency into thinking that they would make good parents. The name "Bob" would not sit right with this leader of a Hells Angels MC chapter. So he starts calling him "Snake", and they begin grooming him to become the leader of this Hells Angels chapter some day. Growing up in a motorcycle gang in the Bronx, NY(where they lived) "Bob"(Snake) becomes a huge fan of, and is obsessed with basketball(the New York Knicks), the Harlem Globetrotters, Evel Knievel, and surfing(in order to explain certain things in "Escape from L.A.). For recreation, if he wasn't playing basketball(prison rules) at one of the local courts, he was surfing at "Rockaway Beach"(92nd Street Beach). * When he was 17 he even won the "East Coast Surfing Championship". To make a long story short, "Snake" gets into a lot of trouble before the age of 18, and for whatever reason is court ordered to join the army. Perhaps to give him an opportunity to break away from crime. He does so well in the army, he is selected and transferred to Green Beret boot camp. He impressed his superiors so much, that he was selected and transferred to the high-tech "FOXHOUND Special Forces Group". He was placed in the "Black Light Unit"(also known as "Delta Unit") FOXHOUND's "Sneaking Unit Special Division". This is why he was called "SD" Plissken(or SD could stand for "Sneaking/Delta"). This could also be where FOXHOUND gives him the call sign "Solid Snake", or "Snake" for short. * Then, WWIII breaks out. This is where the 2nd prequel in the trilogy could take place. It could be called *Escape* *from* *Siberia,* where he is given his first purple heart for something he did, and is promoted to the rank of "Second Lieutenant". The 3rd film in the trilogy could be called *Escape* *from* *Russia,* and could be where he is decorated with his 2nd purple heart by the president himself, and is promoted to the rank of "First Lieutenant". He loses his left eye during this mission due to nerve gas. FOXHOUND surgically implants a bionic eye in place of his now useless eye. It is obvious to look at, that his new eye is bionic in nature. This replacement eye gives him normal vision(so as to not hamper his depth perception). * He was also given a special technological eyepatch to not only conceal the nature of his now robotic-looking left eye, but is also designed to be used in conjunction with his cybernetic eye. Utilizing nanotechnology, they provide him with special features such as: night vision, infrared vision, ultraviolet vision, telescopic vision, microscopic vision and x-ray vision. The last 3rd of the movie could be where he's on leave, and is convinced by FOXHOUND scientist "Dr. Harold Hellman" and fellow member of Black Light Unit "Fresno Bob" to rob the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, and the rest is history. * Then they can begin working on a remake of "Escape from New York", where they could say it's the year 2037(instead of 1997), or better yet, don't give a specific year. Just say "In the future..." or something like that. When WWIII began, the crisis gave the government the excuse they needed to declare martial law in the country, and it becomes a police state that is then reorganized into a new government that is renamed: "The New World Order"(N.W.O.). New York City is hit by a chemical or biological weapon. The city is quarantined until an immunizing agent can be developed. * A wall is built around Manhattan Island where any civilians infected with a contagious virus, where there is no current or not enough immunizing agents available, are sent. It is a slow process, but any civilians in Manhattan, or were sent to Manhattan Island and are still alive are eventually treated. They had a two-fold reason for building the walls. When the crisis was over, they were not going to tear the walls down. Instead, they were planning on using Manhattan Island as the one N.W.O. "Manhattan National Penitentiary". However, they would not shut off *ALL* of the electricity, and they would continue to provide plumbing, water and food(only what's necessary), but they would not perform maintenance on anything. * They would be on their own in that regard. So what do you think? Would those make some good Snake Plissken movies? Do you think they would do him justice? They would have to take great care when casting the role of Snake Plissken. Josh Brolin would've been perfect for the role when he was between the age of 31 and 39(between the years 1999 and 2007). Jason Momoa would've been perfect between the years 1999 and 2018, but he's 6'4". The character of Snake Plissken is 6' 1", but I guess we're only talking about the difference of 3 inches. They would not be able to afford to make a mistake like they made when casting Alden Ehrenreich as Han Solo in that movie called "Solo: A Star Wars Story. Please don't make a mistake like that.

Escape from L.A. even had the intro to Metal Gear Solid the one man mini torpedo.

Love those post apocalyptic 80s movies

How my favorite movie growing up inspired my favorite game

Very random, but the plot of ‘presidential plane landing in “anarchist” territory’ feels extremely similar to Cyberpunks recent dlc story

I love this movie before its time

“Good artists borrow, great artists steal.” - Pablo Picasso

"My name's not important. What's important is what I'm going to do."

This just had to happen!!

how does this not have more views?

1:47 more like rules, RULES OF NATURE!!!

love the movies, just learned theres a video game just now

Can you say more about the influence of The Great Escape on MGS? They're my favorite movie and game but I had no idea they shared more than passing resemblance.

The movie may not be absolutely perfect, but it sure as hell is enjoyable like the majority of Carpenters films. And the fucking music

Thought this was never going to happen go to LA now lolz

can we talk about how mgs esque the rock is

man you surely kept us waiting only movies that I want you to review are Guyver Dark Hero = MGS1 Solid Snakes voice actor Sean Barker, Big Trouble in little China = MGS2 Jack is the lower deck episode though he thinks he's the hero and Escape from L.A. = well obviously MGS4^^

3:25 OH HELL NAW💀💀💀

And here i thought the only leaks between both was the name and the eyepatch. Now that i think about it, Snake looks a lot like Snake ..... Ok i'll see myself out

Time limit that inspires Die Hard later, Die-Hardman and Heartman (with his time limit) from Death Stranding. heh heh

Movies to be correct. Kojima also took from Escape from LA.

If anyone wants to play a game inspired by Escape from NY, try Manhunt, even the soundtrack sounds inspired by Carpenter

I have the bell notifications for this channel but RU-vid still didn’t tell me....

I saw LA before I saw New York, unfortunately, but I love both movies. LA is definitely cheesier and jumps the shark at that surfing scene.

I became a fan of MGS before seeing these movies and lost my shit seeing the movie later like “THATS FK’N SNAKE!” 😂

What is this madness a 12 minute video! Movie length videos or bust!

John Carpenter created Snake. Hideo Kojima's Metal Gear made Snake Solid.

awwww yeah this is cool boss :3

I wonder; if this movie also inspired: 'Batman: Arkham City'??

did the bit around 5:30 have to be edited? I was waiting to hear what the line was.

Thank God! Without Millennial help I would have never understood this movie. From a Gen X’r, my sincere thanks. I can rest now.

I got to it before the algorithm killed it!

The Snake on the cover of the original MetalGear is Kyle Reese ( Michael Biehn) from the first Terminator movie. Dont know if you covered that but it was the first thing I noticed when I bought the game way back when.