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The music industry’s AI fight | The Vergecast 

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The Verge's Nilay Patel and David Pierce chat with Switched on Pop's Charlie Harding about the RIAA lawsuit against AI music startups Udio and Suno. Later, Nilay and David discuss the rest of this week's tech and gadget news.
Further reading: www.theverge.com/2024/6/28/24...
00:00 - Intro
04:52 - RIAA vs AI startups
07:42 - Music industry's history with copyright
17:02 - AI music outputs
34:01 - Fair Use and market impact
41:53 - The Internet's Impact on the music industry
50:26 - Upcoming Phone Announcements
55:33 - The State of Foldables
01:01:12 - Lightning Round
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@tayjn
@tayjn Месяц назад
I love the 5ergecast
@6lack5ushi
@6lack5ushi Месяц назад
Hahaha this made me laugh so hard in the train!!! 😊😂
@violetscomet
@violetscomet Месяц назад
yooo celeste pfp
@Maxible
@Maxible Месяц назад
Best comment.
@danielkoo9696
@danielkoo9696 Месяц назад
GeneVis
@Ollerismo
@Ollerismo Месяц назад
Nilays legal knowledge makes this the best podcast to navigate the AI age
@LeleSocho
@LeleSocho Месяц назад
I was thinking “oh i wish someone would mention Hatsune Miku in this conversation about virtual music stars” and Nilay delivered like a champ, for this i forgive you four mispronouncing RiscV
@Im_Ryan
@Im_Ryan Месяц назад
Tbf if I just saw “RiscV” on a paper I would assume it was an STD
@Purple_Hayes
@Purple_Hayes Месяц назад
David we need a dedicated dog cam
@SquidVorb
@SquidVorb Месяц назад
34:55 I regret to inform Nilay that the original quote he's trying to remember is: “You have to be lucky all the time. We only have to be lucky once.” And it was originally made by the IRA after a failed attempt to assinate Margaret Thatcher.
@GordonChaffin
@GordonChaffin Месяц назад
Yikes.
@rainydays070
@rainydays070 Месяц назад
Based on
@reckless1280
@reckless1280 Месяц назад
Well shit
@robertwilcox9566
@robertwilcox9566 Месяц назад
Please state your name for the court. 🎶Jason Derulo🎶
@ijimkoz
@ijimkoz Месяц назад
You guys rock. Keep doing what you are doing.
@danielkoo9696
@danielkoo9696 Месяц назад
I still call WWDC "World War 600"
@GordonChaffin
@GordonChaffin Месяц назад
All the cool vets at the VFW hall call it "Dub Dub"
@reckless1280
@reckless1280 Месяц назад
This is incredible
@howaboutudance
@howaboutudance Месяц назад
vergecast, the flagship podcast of slashdot nerds (current and former)
@wil5367
@wil5367 Месяц назад
udio and suno allow users to input specific lyrics to be used in the generation, which is why I think these songs have word-for-word lyrics similarities.
@rproaudio1
@rproaudio1 Месяц назад
I don't think it autogenerated "Jason Derulo" seems like someone inputted that via lyrics
@swr410
@swr410 Месяц назад
They get to the specific prompts that were used around 27:30. I don’t think these prompts used lyrics.
@gfgrimm
@gfgrimm Месяц назад
Nilay, we actually walk around the office and pronounce it as “Risk Five.” Thanks for atoning for your sins.
@reckless1280
@reckless1280 Месяц назад
You have to tell me everything about your office
@gfgrimm
@gfgrimm Месяц назад
@@reckless1280 You could describe my workplace as a hardware development vault for consumer electronics devices. There is an enlightened subgroup of architects, electrical engineers, and firmware engineers working on product architectures that include RISC-V IP. However, I'm unsure whether our colleagues from other disciplines would land in the "five" or "vee" camp. Time for an office poll I guess.
@TheBauertech
@TheBauertech Месяц назад
It is funny how Apple used Roman numerals for 10 but then went back to number for 11 and on. Consistency is key and then did not have it
@nocturnus009
@nocturnus009 Месяц назад
RISC technology, dropped in casual conversation during the party scene at Kate Libby’s House in Hackers (1995)… “Gonna get myself connected, the writings on the WALL!”
@robertwilcox9566
@robertwilcox9566 Месяц назад
I am a computer engineer, and I am who reads RISC-V out loud.
@moramento22
@moramento22 Месяц назад
Thank god for David's dog, we now know that the background is actually real and live
@ZachChen1996
@ZachChen1996 Месяц назад
Nice shout out to Charli XCX
@U2haveanicedayty2
@U2haveanicedayty2 Месяц назад
Awesome Podcast.Hope you guy's have a wonderful 4th Stay Safe.Also was wondering where Alex was hopefully on Vacation.Enjoy 💯✌️
@swr410
@swr410 Месяц назад
Nilay, please really do ask RJ about how soon the Rivian R3X can happen. I love that car design!
@makhalid1999
@makhalid1999 Месяц назад
2:43 one of my friends was once like "What is this "R-I-S-C-V""
@antoniospappas2575
@antoniospappas2575 Месяц назад
Now that is a uvio prompt
@bradenfitzpatrick8352
@bradenfitzpatrick8352 Месяц назад
I’m at Uni for electrical engineering. There are a persistent few of us who actually talk about RISC-V in normal conversation
@em.a.httpss
@em.a.httpss Месяц назад
I've thought about Hatsune Miku for years. Part of the difference I perceive is that the character is not really a singular entity as much as it is a platform. Real human producers with a distinguishable style who people know the name of share their work through the HM brand. I think that's one of the primary reasons fandom has bloomed around it.
@mrapollo_17
@mrapollo_17 Месяц назад
I can't believe AI is what made me be on the side of record labels
@TheManinBlack9054
@TheManinBlack9054 Месяц назад
You really should not, it is a very misguided stance to take. You might not like what comes of it.
@MikeAbili
@MikeAbili Месяц назад
I’m surprised that The Verge didn’t at least do a quick Google search to see that RISC-V is said to”risk five” before hand and that there were other RISCs before the fifth one. Each previous RISC used roman numerals as well.
@MrUrsulvlad
@MrUrsulvlad Месяц назад
Was the a Grindr ding in the background at 1:12:46? 😂😂😂
@Target135
@Target135 Месяц назад
I love the Vergecast and I only listen to / watch it on RU-vid. I do wish you guys would incorporate a little more graphics to the podcast. I feel like you rarely ever put an image of a product or device you’re discussing in the video. You’ll just be talking about it and describing it and I end having to stop what I’m doing when I care enough to google it. Would be nice if you showed the viewing audience what you were talking about more.
@RodXLeon
@RodXLeon Месяц назад
Brah. The latest Jason Derulo song, Morning, is 👌
Месяц назад
I like the story about James Cameron possibly stealing plot from one Outer limits episode for Terminator (James denied it). Thats why you see "Acknowledgment to the Works of Harlan Ellison" in Terminator credits. Lawyers..
@sullivan4052
@sullivan4052 Месяц назад
1:16:59
@SuprBestFriends
@SuprBestFriends Месяц назад
Shout out to all the nerdy kids who grew up in the middle of nowhere WI 🎉
@brandonreed09
@brandonreed09 Месяц назад
Samsung has already provided several AI features in their newest phones. Apple definitely wasn't first nor have they even provided the features yet.
@JonConstruct
@JonConstruct Месяц назад
The AI James Brown sounded like Wilson Pickett
@Ollerismo
@Ollerismo Месяц назад
Mericas tech podcast
@voodoochild420ai
@voodoochild420ai Месяц назад
cool vid
@NotAGoodFit
@NotAGoodFit Месяц назад
Hey I want a Blurple watchband too... so I can feel like I belong, y'know? 😅
@antoniospappas2575
@antoniospappas2575 Месяц назад
Trigger Warning: Jason Derulo
@Druac
@Druac Месяц назад
My favorite thing about AI music are all the "I asked AI to make a country song" videos on RU-vid! :)
@franklingoodwin
@franklingoodwin Месяц назад
Before everyone gets up in arms about AI music remember it brought us BBL Drizzy. I'm going in (no Diddy)
@ChadBlanchard23
@ChadBlanchard23 Месяц назад
It's pronounced dearth.
@TheDiymovies
@TheDiymovies Месяц назад
Booo David nooo if a preferred name is given then use it!
@stevematta
@stevematta Месяц назад
Copywrite laws will change from Ai, and sorry, it won't be on the side of the individual artist but the corps. Too much of the future economy will be based on Ai. Once was, will be no more.
@disco-terror
@disco-terror Месяц назад
You're doomed, doomed!
@fiddlefiver
@fiddlefiver Месяц назад
I cant make the difference between real music and 1 and 0 sounds hahah , I'm not a music enthousiat looool
@aroddragon11
@aroddragon11 Месяц назад
First
@SkywalkerPaul
@SkywalkerPaul Месяц назад
Why?
@DennyLewis
@DennyLewis Месяц назад
When?
@artman40
@artman40 Месяц назад
If music industry wins, we lose.
@midnightpaintings
@midnightpaintings Месяц назад
The doomerism behind musicianship and AI is bizarre. For one, we've had this conversation before with the introduction of MIDI, virtual instruments and popular EDM. Did they destroy physical instrumentation? I mean, not really. Rock as a genre certainly does not carry as much clout in the mainstream world anymore, but streaming has shown that instrument-driven music is still incredibly popular. Fact is, humans have a bias for organic creations. Did digital art destroy oil painting? No, in fact digital art still struggles to demand the same level of respect as physical art. Same with EDM and virtual-instrument driven music. Is Kendrick Lamar popular? Yes. Does his music carry the same cultural prestige as, say, Led Zeppelin? No. And I hate Led Zeppelin, but what I'm illustrating is that modern popular music that relies heavily on virtual instrument is still seen as ephemeral and artificial. Of course, the fact that pop music is what's at stake here, I can't say I feel sorry for any producer or songwriter that feels their job is threatened by AI. AI isn't magic, it can only regurgitate what it's trained on, and modern pop is often incredibly derivative. What this technology will be very good at is writing 100 of the same songs with Pitbull shouting his name over them in slightly different affectation. To these music producers, I would suggest writing more meaningful music.
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