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The MYSTERIOUS DISAPPEARANCE of Benjamin Bathurst is one of the GREATEST MISSING PERSON'S CASES of all time. What happened to this young British diplomat in Perleberg in 1809. Was it an accident? Foul play? Or perhaps something supernatural? In this mysterious people documentary from History Calling I’ll take you through what we know and what we don’t about this piece of unbelievable history and offer my thoughts as to what might have happened to the unfortunate Mr Bathurst to turn him into a famous unsolved historical mystery. We'll look at whether or not he was kidnapped by Napoleonic forces, if he went mad or if he was trying to escape his travelling companions who he suspected were trying to harm him. One thing's for sure, this is piece of unbelievable history and a mysterious disappearances documentary you won't soon forget.
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@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 3 года назад
What do you think happened to Benjamin Bathurst? Let me know below and check out my PATREON site for extra perks at www.patreon.com/historycalling
@deeparks3112
@deeparks3112 3 года назад
State sponsored assassination...
@PotatoTrain
@PotatoTrain 2 года назад
Ordered by Napoleon. Which is why he personally permitted the wife and brother in law the passports to search. Because he knew she wouldn't find anything.
@vickiewallace415
@vickiewallace415 2 года назад
I'm not usually a fan of any of the unsolved history.. but this was, well, AMAZING!! More like this PLEASE!
@kittyblackwood5459
@kittyblackwood5459 2 года назад
Great video! That was an interesting story. I have 2 theories. Theory #1. I think he faked his own death. Hear me out ( lol ). I think he figured out that there was some sort of conspiracy and who it involved and he came up with a plan to fake his own death. I also think the letter in his pocket that he wrote to her asking her not to remarry ( while probably somewhat common in that era ) was his way of trying to tell her that he wasn't dead or more likely he planned on resurfacing at a later date and didn't want to make it an even worse scandal for his wife. Tho this may be a stretch since I don't know what context it was said in and maybe further clues can be found in the rest of the letter. Then to throw off the investigation he had someone or did himself place the pants and letter near the woods. I mean the fact that they had bullet holes with no blood stains makes sense if you're on high alert I know when I'm in a high anxiety state I'm not able to think straight and wouldn't have thought " hmm, maybe I should add some blood to make it more authentic." And the fact that he had been so panicky and restless and probably afraid of being discovered makes me think this was meant to be a red herring from him that he didn't think thru. Why he never resurfaced after the danger was over? Looking at that time period, medicine wasn't that great and there were many, many ways to die back then so he could have passed away before he had the chance to. My theory may be complete rubbish, but, for me it makes sense cuz ghosts aren't real lol.
@kittyblackwood5459
@kittyblackwood5459 2 года назад
Oh and I did have another theory but someone beat me to it lol. So sorry I should have fixed that error. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️
@lmboh8585
@lmboh8585 3 года назад
Viewers who don't listen/watch your non-Tudor videos are missing great content! That was a very good true-crime video with just the right amount of facts vs speculation (meaning, the knocking down of non-facts) vs humor. I believe that poor Mr Bathurst was having a mental health crises made worse by his deteriorating physical health. He, in due course, trusted the wrong people in the village and ended up dead. I hope that you will do more of these historical mystery videos, they are excellent!
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 3 года назад
Thank you so much. This is actually my favourite of all the videos I've done, even though it'll never be as popular as the Tudor videos. I just found the whole story fascinating and didn't see any other videos that looked at it properly on RU-vid. It really means a lot that you watched it (especially as I know it's a long one) and took the time to comment. I'm glad you enjoyed it and I think BB was unwell too and bumped into the wrong people in the village, who then took advantage in the worst possible way. If I can get the channel to grow a bit more to give me a better income from it, I'll do some more videos like this that aren't going to be as popular, but which will be a bit different. Much as I love the Tudors, they are a bit repetitive for me, but what can I say, they bring in the views and subs!
@westieweardogkilts9715
@westieweardogkilts9715 3 года назад
@@HistoryCalling oh I think you'd find an audience for the longer, stranger historical events. Being home a lot more in the past year or so from world event has really got me hooked on historical channels and mystery stories. Apparently quite a lot of Tudor ones to tap, like the stairwell one. Sooooo so much to learn about. Thank you for a brilliant channel.
@novallasuter5265
@novallasuter5265 2 года назад
I appreciate your non Tudor videos. Messy three monarchs.
@NinjaGrrrl7734
@NinjaGrrrl7734 Год назад
@@HistoryCalling you were made for this genre, though. If you co tinue with it, mark my words, your channel will explode even more. Remember me? I'm the one who told you long ago to take a screen shot of my comment because you were gonna get big. That was not so long ago and look at you now!!! I hope you do more of these. You're so good at this.
@dieselsgrandma2949
@dieselsgrandma2949 Месяц назад
I saw this video mentioned in your last newsletter. I’m so glad that I decided to watch and what a great “who done it”. I’m in the USA and find your content interesting and so enjoyable to watch.
@akschmidt2085
@akschmidt2085 2 года назад
Fascinating story. Thanks for explaining it so thoroughly. Bathurst seemed to be suffering from some mental health problem (maybe a psychotic break definitely terrible anxiety and paranoia) and while people suffering from fear and paranoia are more likely to harm themselves (deliberately and accidentally) they're also more likely to be harmed by third parties. The clincher here seem to be the trousers. The trousers make NO sense, neither if he killed himself nor if he was murdered. Fascinating.
@wanderinghistorian
@wanderinghistorian 2 года назад
As soon as you said he flashed his fancy watch and bling bling in the common room, I knew it was a robbery/murder. When they found their cloaks in the hands of thieves, that clinched it.
@skyefirenails
@skyefirenails Год назад
"cuz, y'know, there was no TV back then and kids had to make their own fun." 🤣
@K8E666
@K8E666 Год назад
It’s Occam’s razor “The simplest explanation is usually the best one”. The most likely explanation is that he was robbed and killed in the locality. I mean, he was wearing a diamond broach, a hugely valuable fur coat with ‘violet’ lining, an expensive pocket watch and carrying an excessive amount of money that he took no care to hide !! He would’ve stuck out like a sore thumb - the perfect victim. He was so preoccupied with his arrival back in England and the subsequent loss of his job, that even carrying two pistols wouldn’t have helped him fend off a gang of local thieves, who then robbed and murdered him. I find it highly circumspect that his fur coat was found in the possession of a local thief and his mother along with his travelling companion’s coat, and I suspect that they either had his other valuables stashed away or had already begun selling them. They probably should’ve been arrested and their house searched, as well as known pawn dealers questioned in an attempt to locate the missing items. It was most likely murder committed during a robbery, so essentially aggravated murder in today’s laws. I don’t believe he ever left and is most likely one of the skeletons found buried outside the town….
@michaeltull4613
@michaeltull4613 3 года назад
"because kids had to make their own fun" I laughed at that.. thanks for the fun video
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 3 года назад
Haha, you're very welcome. I felt like I really had to call that out, cause honestly, what kind of little terrors would go playing with human remains!
@a.jlondon9039
@a.jlondon9039 3 года назад
Just found your channel and binged. Great education. You have a Brilliant voice for narration & teaching. Looking forward to new videos.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 3 года назад
Thank you so much and welcome to the channel :-)
@59tante
@59tante 3 года назад
Me too
3 года назад
Had never heard of this case! Quite interesting. I agree with you: murder is the likeliest scenario and it was probably local. Or his traveling companion poisoned him slowly during the voyage, provoking his mental deterioration and eventual death. Just saying. 😉
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 3 года назад
Yes, it's a bizarre case but perhaps doesn't get as much press as some other famous disappearances, even though I think it ranks as one of the strangest. Poison from one of his companions is certainly a possibility.
@janettemccubbin9009
@janettemccubbin9009 3 года назад
If he thought he was being followed and scared for his life, why would he go for a walk on his own?
@uchiharew
@uchiharew 3 года назад
agreed, seems like a ploy. My first instinct was faking death/new identity.....or maybe he was just wasted *shrugs*
@DrJeykl
@DrJeykl 2 года назад
We also have to look at what source said he went for a walk. Is it the testimony of one person? Or is it collaborated? One can easily lie or mistake someone else for him. I didn’t hear who gave this evidence however, I was filling out paperwork at my job at the time I was listening lol
@kellygeatches1662
@kellygeatches1662 3 года назад
There is an alarming amount of similar cases to this even in present time. Someone gets increasingly more paranoid and just disappears without a trace.
@Muzerino434
@Muzerino434 Год назад
Fascinating stuff. I love your videos, both the royalty ones and the mystery ones. I know you probably have a huge pile of videos to make, but one that might interest you is a mysterious disappearance of four schoolgirls and a teacher in 1900 in Australia, at Hanging Rock while on a school picnic. It’s never been solved.
@wendybond2848
@wendybond2848 Год назад
The author of Picnic at Hanging Rock, Joan Lindsay, admitted this is a fictional story.
@jorijoestar4998
@jorijoestar4998 2 года назад
I listen to your channel while I sew. You're so extremely talented
@paden1865able
@paden1865able Год назад
I had heard of the man, but never his story. Thank you! Always willing to listen to the history that you share, it's so very well done!
@alisonmartin6101
@alisonmartin6101 3 года назад
I can't get enough of your videos. Wonderful content!
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 3 года назад
Thank you. Glad you like them. :-)
@MsDemonBunny
@MsDemonBunny 3 года назад
Inclined to think the first body discovered was Bathurst. The whole "nothing to see here" stance of the authorities seems like they didn't want the incident brought up again.
@westieweardogkilts9715
@westieweardogkilts9715 3 года назад
That was my feeling too.... very Roswell.
@lfgifu296
@lfgifu296 Год назад
Hmmm… I don’t think so- I am inclined to the third. I believe that “nothing to see here” wasn’t related to the Bathurst disappearance- maybe to something else the authorities had something to do with- I see no reason for them to try to hide it years after given that they had been quite helpful im 1809/10…
@antoinesilva1527
@antoinesilva1527 10 месяцев назад
@@lfgifu296 I agree. The authorities might have been embarrassed by the state of chaos their country were in.
@laughingrightback
@laughingrightback 2 года назад
Oh how I miss the days of my youth and picking apart random skeletons with my friends.....those were the days.
@silvertbird1
@silvertbird1 3 года назад
I had never heard of this incident, fascinating. We should never forget he was an actual living person, and died very young. It seems the skeleton found in 1910 not far from the site where the pantaloons were discovered is compelling. I don’t understand it being possibly ruled out because Benjamin was considered a “slight man“ and the skeleton was too large. How can a skeleton reveal if someone is “slight“ or otherwise? If Benjamin was 6 feet tall then the skeleton could appear to be large, whether or not the person were of a slender or stocky build.
@mickim5507
@mickim5507 3 года назад
I believe the heavier a person is, then more dense their bones. So weight can be determined with just the skeleton. A slender man would have less dense bones than a heavier one due to the lighter load on them during life.
@LollipopLozzy454545
@LollipopLozzy454545 2 года назад
Muscles and tendons attach to bones and those attachments leave marks on the bones- the heavier and stronger the musculature of a person, the higher the mass of the bones and the more pronounced those markings are. Heavy bone mass and pronounced musculature attachments are indicative of someone who was heavily built.
@lorisutherland7728
@lorisutherland7728 3 года назад
Thank you for doing this
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 3 года назад
Thank you. This video took absolutely AGES to do!
@MeMe-nw9mq
@MeMe-nw9mq 2 года назад
Very enjoyable video. What an intriguing story. So many possibilities of what may have happened to this gentleman.
@philip2595
@philip2595 2 года назад
Thank you for another informative, concise and most interesting presentation. If I may also say your accent is a delight!🙂
@davidlancaster6941
@davidlancaster6941 2 года назад
This could be a Missing 411 case except for the nefarious characters surrounding the immediate disappearance. You definetly weaved a mysterious tale here. Ponderous. Thanks for bringing us another great chapter in history. Lvya
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Thank you (and thank you for watching and commenting on some of my lesser known videos - I'm just scanning down some recent comments at the moment and I can see your name popping up a few times. Most people won't watch anything that isn't Tudor related!)
@daegudiva
@daegudiva 2 года назад
This video was fabulous. Such fun, and interesting.
@beastshawnee
@beastshawnee 2 года назад
I rule out local robber because if his clothes were expensive-and they were -they would have been sold by someone. Used clothing was a big market back then and nice things worth big bucks. But also if the widow was paying a reward that big-locals will spill the beans on each other as she said. Military will keep quiet under orders.
@okallie
@okallie 3 года назад
Love your channel!
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 3 года назад
Thank you so much!
@JennyT101
@JennyT101 3 года назад
I love your channel! So many great topics. I find it very odd that Bathurst dismissed the guards before he departed since he was so concerned. I think it was the French.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 3 года назад
Yes, his behaviour was very strange. I don't think he was well, but I also don't think he harmed himself. A lot of people suspected the French of involvement. I'm glad you're enjoying the channel. Many thanks for watching and commenting.
@StripyOrange
@StripyOrange 3 года назад
Fascinating!
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 3 года назад
Thank you :-) Glad you enjoyed it.
@bevinboulder5039
@bevinboulder5039 Год назад
I have now officially watch all of your videos which leads me to the question of what I will do to tide myself over between Fridays in the future. 😃 As to this video, I vote for the 1852 skeleton. Oh, and, Merry Christmas, though it's Boxing Day over there by now. 🎄
@ludovica8221
@ludovica8221 7 месяцев назад
fascinating! Talk about cold case!
@bonniebelle5151
@bonniebelle5151 3 года назад
It hast to have bern murder. With your fabulous investigative documentary the skeleton under the kitchen floor is a contender. Thank you for such an interesting report.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 3 года назад
Hi Bonnie, you're very welcome. I'm glad you like it. Yes, the body under the floor is indeed a good contender.
@gordonbarranger4168
@gordonbarranger4168 3 года назад
@@HistoryCalling It would be interesting to know if the skeletens had strikes at the back of the skull?after all he did have pistals. maybe his assaliants were aware of this and decided against a full frontal attack?
@mts339
@mts339 Год назад
Call Father Brown. What I find intriguing is Napoleon giving his widow and brother in-law passage.
@robertdudley4017
@robertdudley4017 3 года назад
That was a long video but excellent to watch, iv never heard of this case before, it would seem like he was murderd, they item they found in the forest was planted to mislead any searching party, it certainly is a baffling case, you came up with a real gem thank you for your painstaking research and sharing.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 3 года назад
Yes, it took AGES to put together. I started to lose the will to go on after a while, but I'm glad I persevered. It's one of my favourite videos, even though it'll never be as popular as the Tudor stuff. Glad you liked it :-)
@robertdudley4017
@robertdudley4017 3 года назад
@@HistoryCalling you put a lot of hard work in producing the video, so in depth and narrated, I love all history, it makes a change from Tudor history I'm glad you do other stuff, 😊
@robertdudley4017
@robertdudley4017 3 года назад
@@HistoryCalling I do agree Tudor history is very popular, there is not enough of Stuart history or the plantagenets, or other dynasties, you have a passion for history, as you say keep Learning 😊👍
@neilbain8736
@neilbain8736 Год назад
I wonder what he had said to upset Canning, and what Canning's response was. Do these letters exist still? What can be learned from them? Where would investigations go if we got access to them? 18:20 Methinks t'was The Black Adder Omnibus that really fell through the worm hole and Benjamin got in the unmentionables while trying to actually invent self removing trousers before the French did. (In this timeline, it was Prince George who was as happy as a Frenchman who had invented self removing trousers. Perhaps Ben was literal minded). Kids haven't changed. A friend's daughter who's 8, was absolutely delighted when she found a ram skull, huge with horns and moss growing out the eye sockets. There were random vertebrae nearby but not with a sheep shaped layout, so the idea of a self exploding sheep really kept her amused.
@juliepoppy1021
@juliepoppy1021 2 года назад
Lovely to hear a consise retelling of this event. I reposted it to a channel that was sensationalising it abit. Murder was So easily done in those days.
@laniyates5732
@laniyates5732 2 года назад
I'd never heard this story but as soon as I heard"diamond broach" my ears pricked up. Coupled with his making little attempt to conceal his wealth I thought ,that's dangerous. I lean toward the simplest answer. He was robbed and was probably one of the skeletons found. I'd say the last one mentioned.
@semadt
@semadt 3 года назад
The text you quoted in connection with the very first "supernatural" theory (something like it's as if the earth has opened) is actually a pretty common figure of speech in German and just describes the mysterious disappaerance without clues of what happened. The other "supernatural" quote made about turning at the head of the horse reads similarly to me, just a figure of speech to describe he was last seen close to the horses and presumably turned around a corner or similar so he was out of sight of the person this account comes from and thus vanished without a trace. Not supernatural at all, just somewhat flowery descriptions. I think most likely is that someone local saw him handling a lot of money and other valuables and also realized in his unstable appearance he would be overcome easily and quietly. In other words, an easy victim for someone unscrupulous. I wouldn't want to speculate which of the three skeletons, if any, was his. Also, there is still the issue of his pantalons which appeared sometime after that evening, if I understood the video right. I don't quite believe someone would deposit a body and place the clothes relatively close by - or if somebody tried this stunt, that the body would remain undiscovered for a century. If nobody else, surely the local children would have combed the woods nearby in the hopes of some entertainment.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 3 года назад
Hi Diana, I completely agree there was nothing supernatural about it, nor do I really see anything 'supernatural' in the quotes myself. My point was more that other people have used these quotes to build up a lot of silly stories around what happened to him. Like you, I think some dodgy locals were probably to blame. Many thanks for watching.
@gonefishing167
@gonefishing167 3 года назад
I’m in Australia and the phrase “ the earth opened up and swallowed them “ is very common. Well, for my generation and prior. I hadn’t heard the other one you quoted though. Always interesting to hear about different sayings 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
@c.w.8200
@c.w.8200 2 года назад
Yes, the "as if the ground had swallowed him" expression is still used pretty much every time there's a missing persons case in Germany or other German language countries.
@quietwaterz7550
@quietwaterz7550 2 года назад
I love your channel!💚💜💙
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Thank you :-)
@jbos5107
@jbos5107 2 года назад
I had never heard of this case until I saw another channel mention it. His traveling companions may have killed him because he was driving them crazy. Probably robbery was the motive. He didn't seem well suited to his position.
@terriv9002
@terriv9002 3 года назад
It seems he would be safer if he pretended to be a lower middle class farmer from somewhere French speaking. Then they should have traveled in a cheaper manner and not flaunting his wealth and status.
@laurenrose1472
@laurenrose1472 Год назад
It sounds to me as if he had some kind of episode, wandered off and was robbed and murdered by local criminals.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
Yes, I think murder by locals is the most likely explanation too.
@Beth20043
@Beth20043 2 года назад
Is there anyway they could confirm if that last skeleton that was found was him? Would there still be bone fragments which they could test for DNA, against the DNA of known descendants of Bathurst?
@gonefishing167
@gonefishing167 3 года назад
Thank you so much for your hard work. Time consuming for you but greatly appreciated by us. I’d not heard of this disappearance before. Very interesting. I feel that that he was murdered. He would have stood out like a sore thumb in the town, as a reasonably well to do gent and a foreigner. Or it was a state sanctioned affair. If it was a State sanctioned deed, I feel they would have disposed of the body and covered their tracks much better whilst leaving the pantaloons seems to be a more amateurish endeavour . I’d go ‘ death by misadventure’. Isn’t that what they say when they thinks it’s murder but can’t prove it. He may have been feeling ill but he doesn’t sound suicidal. If Suicide , there’d be a body and things to find. We have a car race here called ‘"The Bathurst 500’ ( think itsm500 anyway. Whoever wins it is called ‘The King of the Mountain’. Just a fun fact from 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 3 года назад
Thanks, I'm glad you liked the video. It's actually one of my favourites that I've done (maybe even the favourite), but as it's not a super famous story, people aren't aware of it and the video doesn't get as much attention. Yes, I think murder is the most likely option too.
@lfgifu296
@lfgifu296 Год назад
A most unsettling case indeed… I have watched it many times but for some reason never commented. Personally I agree with you that someone else did it- a robber or simply a killer- but they’re still holes in the theory… I can’t think of why he would dismiss the guards and go for a walk- it baffles me! About the skull in 1852 that his sister said wasn’t him, there had been many years since 1809, wouldn’t it be quite deteriorated by then? Did she say it wasn’t him because of the skull structure? This is all so confusing! The only thing I disagree with is the order you give the theories- for me the suicide theory is less likely than the runaway, though it doesn’t really matter as both are highly unlikely. Great video!! Surely one of my favourite!
@adekok1
@adekok1 3 года назад
I wish Phillida had interviewed other prisoners in Magdeburg. That possibility seems intriguing and holds great opportunities for a cover-up. Other prisoners might have been able to confirm having seen him (or not) in that time period. Otherwise, yes, the local ruffians make a reasonable suspect. That said, why discard the pantaloons? I would think they also would have had marketable value. The pantaloons are most useful as a distraction (in my opinion) if something happened in Magdeburg.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 3 года назад
The discarded pantaloons are an odd little addition to the story aren't they? Then again, the whole thing is very strange.
@Rhaenarys
@Rhaenarys 3 года назад
Psychology is a funny subject. So is fear. Not haha funny, but strange. Its very possible he did take his own life, even though being so fearful of losing it. He could've been in a state of so much fear that he thought it was going to happen...that night, and decided it would be easier if he did it himself. Theres also a sense of control that comes with it. Conquering fear is about controlling it. If you fear someone will kill you, the best way to control it is to do the job yourself. You take away the control from the would be and give it to yourself. Its crazy, but psychology wasn't about studying the normal, to be fair.
@Rhaenarys
@Rhaenarys 3 года назад
Oh and despite the letters and everything, he could've feared the person who would kill him wouldn't get caught. Heck, that could've been his biggest fear, that he would be killed, and the killer wouldn't be caught. And possibly tried setting it up to frame the would be. Like he was so convinced it would happen, he took total control of the situation and tried to make sure the would be would get what he would deserve if he carried it out. Again...these things are strange.
@Rhaenarys
@Rhaenarys 3 года назад
Or...he didn't kill himself and just made it look like it. Would make sense why he wouldn't want his wife to remarry since technically she'd be living in sin.
@paddingtonlaw2491
@paddingtonlaw2491 3 года назад
I think he was murdered. Although I question whether his mental health had something to do with his demise.
@lunar686
@lunar686 Год назад
“... Possibly through a wormhole or a tear in the space-time continuum...”...obviously 😂😂😂
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling Год назад
I know. We laugh, but there are people who seriously believe that. It's worrying.
@lunar686
@lunar686 Год назад
@@HistoryCalling Unfortunately, the very nature of the scientific method means we’ll never be able to present information with the same level of certainty as some of these ‘theories’. Lol, even basic concepts like ‘gravity’ need to be presented as a theory presently under contention, so there’s almost zero chance scientific enquiry can offer the doubt-free guarantee some people desire. Absolute cudos though for being able to hold a steady tone of voice whilst saying that line out loud, I don’t think I’d be able to do it without giggling the whole way through 😹
@paden1865able
@paden1865able Год назад
The Doctor has never admitted to whisking him away, but...😂
@LKMNOP
@LKMNOP Месяц назад
Most of the testimony about his last hours was given by a Krause. I find it weird that someone who was paranoid and thought someone was going to kill him would dismiss his guards and walk alone down a lonely lane away from the people he knew.
@laurachapple6795
@laurachapple6795 5 месяцев назад
*Ryan Bergara voice*: "Aliens."
@tesssanders7993
@tesssanders7993 Год назад
More puzzling is *Isidore Fink*, the original locked room mystery! 1929 How Was a Man Shot to Death Inside a Locked Shop With No Gun? The windows all nailed shut on the inside, all doors found locked from the inside. Somehow a person had gained entrance into the locked apartment, murdered Fisk, and left through an exit that was not a door or a window. Remains unsolved.
@daegudiva
@daegudiva 2 года назад
Hahaha! I LOVE your "sigh" at super natural forces.
@dburton2765
@dburton2765 2 года назад
Oh wow...the rest of the song!! lol
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
Yup, it's the only video where you hear more of it :-)
@kwgrid
@kwgrid 3 года назад
I eliminate him killing himself. He wanted to get home to his wife very badly. I think he was murdered and it doesn't particularly matter why or by whom.
@gonefishing167
@gonefishing167 3 года назад
If I was him I’d want to know who did me in! I’d want to haunt the ...... criminals 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
@blorac9869
@blorac9869 2 года назад
Killed by local criminals, I agree, did the deed! Enjoyed, thank you very much!
@helgaborek3290
@helgaborek3290 Год назад
Wow, somehow I skipped this video when I had discovered this channel. While I agree that the most likely possibility is that he was killed, I have some things to say if we consider thar the skeleton in the woods is him: 1) it is very hard to dig a grave in the woods as there are tree roots, so the killers had to dig it earlier during the day; 2) the sceleton was found in 1910 so it had not been disturbed by animals, so the grave must have been very deep which makes the task of digging it even more difficult; 3) freshly dug graves are usually very easy to spot so if they indeed buried him there, they had to wait after the search. And why did they put his pants WITH a letter? I also wonder if it is possible that some parts of the sceleton still rermains and if with modern DNA technology can the mystery be solved.
@suran396
@suran396 8 месяцев назад
Excellent!
@chrisward1691
@chrisward1691 2 месяца назад
I agree with your preferred conclusion that he was murdered for his obvious wealth. It is very strange, though, that someone with such renowned paranoia should go wandering off for a walk just before he's about to head off at last. My other thought is that the bloodhounds weren't up to much if a skeleton was found near the pantaloons many years later.
@vickiewallace415
@vickiewallace415 2 года назад
*sigh.... You are my new heroine!!!
@gillsinclair6927
@gillsinclair6927 Год назад
There are a few possibilities here. I doubt anyone will ever find out the whole truth.
@120453y
@120453y 2 года назад
BB seems to have led a cosy life and got this mission by influence of his family... He must have realised that he was out of his depth and this would have explained some or all of his "paranoia"... He was in "enemy territory" and had no idea of how to deal with that challenging situation... Flashing the cash was just foolhardy... Opportunistic robbery/murder seems the obvious solution... I did wonder if the French authorities knew or had a pretty good idea of what had happened (from agents on the ground) and hoped to be cleared by helping Mrs BB...?
@migue4793
@migue4793 3 года назад
I would say he was murdered that evening in Nov. 1809 and the skeleton found in 1852 was his under the house. Remember back then there were no forensics so his little sister didn't know a thing. Too bad that these no longer exist to do some DNA testing on his descendants. From what we know he was tall, slender with muscular tone, handsome wirh nice smile. Another thing he should've done was learn the German and French languages since he waa a diplomat. This case is very interesting 🤔.
@andrewsmith3918
@andrewsmith3918 Месяц назад
Writing a book, can you share your sources?
@Guitcad1
@Guitcad1 9 месяцев назад
Uh... they had riveted blue jeans in 1809? Those are in remarkably good shape. I guess they don't make them like they used to.
@rosemaryfranzese317
@rosemaryfranzese317 2 года назад
Utterly fascinating however it is slightly marred by silly photographs, especially the denim jeans when talking about Bathurst’s pantaloons
@druid139
@druid139 3 года назад
Love how the old girl died due to climbing a tree for nuts! 🤣 Nonetheless, my Irish great aunties died at 99 and 104.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 3 года назад
I have my doubts that that's really how the Countess of Desmond died to be honest, but it is a great story. Those are some great genes you've got too!
@0hMyLife
@0hMyLife 2 года назад
Amazing video!!!! Definitely don't think it was aliens or anything supernatural! LOL!!!! This honestly sounds like one of David Paulides' Missing 411 cases...which is really freaky considering I just binged both his videos last night/today. 😳 I lean most towards the nefarious townie robbing and killing him. Like you said, he really didn't try to hide his wealth in this pretty wild and unpoliced town. Which is weird considering how paranoid he was about someone recognizing him and being turned into the French.....
@musicalmarion
@musicalmarion 3 года назад
Are the pantaloons Levi 501 ? 12:30
@lulabellegnostic8402
@lulabellegnostic8402 2 года назад
Even today, if you want to find the dregs of local society head to the bus or train station.
@mariannehay4209
@mariannehay4209 2 года назад
Hahaha! Totally supernatural! “The Grim” (The black dog that scared the woman in the woods?) was the omen…. Only joking. I think it likely he was the victim of thieves.
@drumsamerica6158
@drumsamerica6158 3 года назад
Reminds me of the risk of Bill and Ted
@castlerock58
@castlerock58 2 года назад
Napoleon was not above kidnapping and murder for reasons of state. It was one of the reasons that he was treated as an ogre by other leaders. If French agents had reason to think he had important information about some new alliance being put together by Britain, there would have been a reason to kidnap and interrogate him. He could have been murdered so France would not have to admit taking him. I don't know how many of the records of Napoleon's intelligence service survived for historians to go through. If they kidnapped, interrogated and killed a British diplomat but got no useful intelligence from him, there may not be any written records. If, for the sake of argument, Napoleon invaded Russia partly based on the interrogation of a diplomat, that intelligence would be important enough that there could be a trace of it in surviving documents. If the French got no useful intelligence, their priority would go to covering their tracks. The French agent theory is a serious one but the local thug one is still the most probable.
@ateufel5759
@ateufel5759 Год назад
He was turned into the scary black dog. 😂
@niqaliaevans5004
@niqaliaevans5004 3 года назад
Unfortunatley nepotism still mostly exists in the corporate world and government 😞
@beastshawnee
@beastshawnee 2 года назад
I would bet He was betrayed and kidnapped and the French killed him in the prison.
@melissaduncan7126
@melissaduncan7126 2 года назад
Aliens
@patriciajrs46
@patriciajrs46 3 года назад
I think the local criminals are the best choice. Just my opinion. Personal belongings of Bathurst should have surfaced somewhere.
@crazyemraled8494
@crazyemraled8494 Год назад
Could be true... 😊
@anitavisram8346
@anitavisram8346 3 года назад
I think he was murdered for his money and possessions. He was very foolish to parade around in his finery in a strange place. Bag over the head and whisked away in seconds. That's what I think.
@theswampangel3635
@theswampangel3635 Год назад
“Because, you know, there was no TV back then and kids had to make their own fun.”
@emmahepburn2969
@emmahepburn2969 Год назад
❤❤❤
@Midorikonokami
@Midorikonokami 3 года назад
If we're talking about disappearances, Louis LePrince is prime real estate
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 3 года назад
He is indeed! I'll add him to my list. Thanks for the idea :-)
@jimihendrix3143
@jimihendrix3143 3 года назад
I'll second this suggestion.
@navinchaal8794
@navinchaal8794 2 года назад
Plus the fact that Edison most probably had something to do with it. There should be a video exposing the fact that Edison was a fraud, who stole and took credit for other people's inventions. More info should be put out there about the people who actually made those inventions, they deserve it
@nickjung7394
@nickjung7394 2 года назад
Tall, good looking bloke.....some wicked woman probably enticed him away.....
@michelleg9194
@michelleg9194 3 года назад
Murdered
@viejomarino
@viejomarino 2 года назад
The KGB did it!
@jeynjohnston8085
@jeynjohnston8085 Год назад
The butler did it.
@jameshanson5933
@jameshanson5933 3 года назад
Time traveller
@musicalmarion
@musicalmarion 3 года назад
Nobody has mentioned Alien abduction either
@paden1865able
@paden1865able Год назад
Two in one, it was the Doctor in the TARDIS.
@suran396
@suran396 8 месяцев назад
Read "He Walked Around The Horses"
@littlemiss_76
@littlemiss_76 7 месяцев назад
Not sure of this one. At first I thought he suffered from mental illness but at the same time.... Both?
@novallasuter5265
@novallasuter5265 2 года назад
Mad as a hatter.
@sarahclaireclaire7586
@sarahclaireclaire7586 3 года назад
4:50,,,I have a headache.... Sorry u r speaking way too fast for me... I can't watch... ☹️ However I believe the vid is interesting 😊
@toniomalley5661
@toniomalley5661 3 года назад
The music is like a child banging on a piano very distracting otherwise very good but lose the banging
@kevinjamesparr552
@kevinjamesparr552 2 года назад
Who are you dear ?
@starrycard7960
@starrycard7960 2 года назад
At around 16 minutes in there is a high pitched beeping sound that is so annoying that it renders this basically unlistenable..
@zin153
@zin153 3 года назад
The music is so awful and distracting and irritating that I gave up on the video.
@suran396
@suran396 8 месяцев назад
I am disappointed that your primary goal was to convince it "wasn't supernatural, " with your exaggerated sigh. How do you KNOW? Nothing else, even by your own admission, works. It is at least possible. Read "He Walked Around The Horses" by H. Beam Piper. Admittedly fiction, the idea has some merit. I'm not saying it WAS supernatural, but supernatural simply means we don't understand it. And if everyone had your attitude, we never would.
@emilybarclay8831
@emilybarclay8831 5 месяцев назад
Because the supernatural is not real. It has never been proven and there is no reason to believe in it. Your only source is self-admittedly fiction.
@bilindalaw-morley161
@bilindalaw-morley161 2 года назад
It's not very important amongst other details given, but I was interested in the story that Benjamin, apologised to his companion for the accusations of untrustworthy behaviour, having gone so far as saying Krause was plotting his death. After apologising, and saying he knew it wasn't true,v"He slept for about two hours, clasping the other man's hand". Was this an example of how Benjamin now trusted in the other? Or of how affectionate the relationship was then? I wondered if instead it was to guarantee Klaus couldn't move away to get weapons or consult with henchmen or paid assassins. Think about the trope of a kidnapping victim being tied to their kidnapper. We can never know the answer, and that answer would be of immense value determining Benjamin's subsequent actions.
@ElysiaMaerda
@ElysiaMaerda 2 года назад
Thanks! I have had a deep love of history since I was a small child thanks to my Dad. I truly love your channel.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
THANK YOU so much for your kind donation and words. I'm delighted you love the channel. :-)
@brandyjean7015
@brandyjean7015 3 года назад
His age & increasing paranoia it is possible he was becoming schizophrenic. Could he have walked far enough, or gotten a ride, and died further away than the original search area? He didn't seem well suited for that line of work.
@c.w.8200
@c.w.8200 2 года назад
My sister was behaving in a similar manner when she developed paranoid schizophrenia, she made several attempts to run away from the hospital and hide somewhere, anywhere, without money or shelter.
@ReeoftheDELL
@ReeoftheDELL 3 года назад
Thank you for the amazing research into this case. My thoughts are that the simple answer is sometimes the right answer. 😀 he would have been a perfect target for a local robber.. the third body you mentioned regardless of size seems very suspicious..
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 3 года назад
Thank you so much. It took absolutely ages to put this one together (really started to wonder if I've bitten off more than I could chew about half way through) so I'm particularly proud of it. Yes, that third body found near the place where his trousers turned up was mighty suspicious.
@LaPinturaBella
@LaPinturaBella 3 года назад
I agree. He was nervous, not feeling well, acting odd and very well dressed. Add this to him being a stranger in the town, I suspect he was followed by some never do wells who wanted to rob him. He may have been murdered deliberately or accidentally killed during an attempted robbery. I don't get the feeling that he harmed himself as in that scenario some thing of him (aside from his pantaloons and letter) should have been discovered. Your videos are wonderful. I am enjoying them thoroughly. What country are you from? You sound like you are English but you pronounce certain words that have a lilt to them that sounds more Irish to me. I'm dying to know. 😇
@monsterjesse
@monsterjesse 3 года назад
i 2nd that
@stephencarrillo5905
@stephencarrillo5905 3 года назад
Great entry in your wonderful series! I'm glad I finally got around to watching it. I'm a big fan of true crime; I think this qualifies. Your research is presented so well and avoids the sensationalism that one encounters so often on broadcasts here in the States. Thanks for another brilliant presentation.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 3 года назад
Thanks Stephen :-)
@jacquelinedeigan776
@jacquelinedeigan776 2 года назад
I've never heard of this case before..but Thank you for posting it. To me it makes sense that someone took his life...he was really concerned about being followed..about being poisoned..Maybe he had good reason for believing this. It's unsettling to think you've got an almost invisible foe.
@HistoryCalling
@HistoryCalling 2 года назад
And thank you for watching one of my older videos. This one also happens to be my favourite of the videos I've done so far.
@kevinjamesparr552
@kevinjamesparr552 2 года назад
He flashed his watch and fortune in public and was murdered for it
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