@@annasloan2349 They'd passed that. This is the part where you'd been terrified for so long you can't feel fear anymore. That said this may have been the flight leader's smartest order. Crash landing is bad enough, but you at least want to be close enough to find each other after you go down.
Mar Hawkman. I'm not sure long-standing fear ever makes itself go away. I think it is still there. Hear the Nazi soldiers on the stairs? I think what happens is that brave people, who maybe don't feel brave at all, manage to focus their entire being on what it is they are doing, right at that particular moment, until they run out of moments. Or they win.
To make matters even more strange, in 1991 a group of treasure hunters located the wreckage of 5 Avengers 12 miles off the coast of Florida. However, after looking at records and identification numbers on some of the wrecks, the planes were not from Flight 19; instead, they were a random assortment of accidents that had all taken place in the same little area of water. (the registration of one of the Avengers checked showed it was lost in 1943, although the entire crew survived)
i was the video editor who worked with jon myhre when he first brought his videos to my production house in west palm beach, florida...we looked at footage for hours trying to ascertain whether or not a plane was from flight 19. the wing numbers weren't that clear, so nothing definitely was decided back then while we were examining the footage. jon was a cool guy, and it was fun, especially since i did my very first college research paper on the 'bermuda triangle', and i was familiar with this 'mystery'. :D
When I did my research paper in college on the Bermuda Triangle, one of my sources was the Navy records which are public domain and what you can probably get access to online... I did my reaearch in the library before the internet was available... you may be able to contact Mr John Myrhe as well, but it was near 30 years ago when We examined his footage, and I haven't been in contact with him since then... the bottom line is that there really is no mystery to Flight 19, it was just an unfortunate training mission for the Navy... Good luck, and I hope you can find some interesting reading... Just be careful of your sources, and make sure they're reputable and factual, and that's why I suggest reading the Navy records of the incident--🖖 😁
There are reports saying they found plane wreckage that could be earheart’s plane, but nothing has been confirmed officially. Even if it is earheart’s plane, there’ll still be the likely unanswerable question of what caused the crash. Even despite the reports the mystery of Amelia earheart is still unsolved as of now.
@@robertnapier624 I heard they found her remains on I think it was called Nakamoro island. Some researchers have found records that suggest that her plane may not have been airworthy at this point in the trip. It's possible the root cause was actually mechanical failure of the aircraft. Most of what we know of her trip is based on press documents, which is the part of the story Amelia and her crew wanted to tell. But there are those who think she was pregnant, and we DO know she had issues with her navigational instruments..
The podcast Astonishing Legends has covered all the latest information on what has happened to her. I haven't listened but they always go into great depth.
I read the book, " The Disappearance of Flight 19" by Larry Kusche in the 1980s. Taylor wasn't that good as a pilot: he ditched three planes, absent enemy action, during the war. Kusche interviewed servicemen who served with Taylor. Simply, Taylor didn't know where he was.
@@galoon the Bermuda Triangle is something that I've found fascinating since I was a teenager. but in the end... All the weird theories require a leap of logic that doesn't fit the facts. Did the Cyclops disappear? yes. do we have any reason to think it was paranormal? Not really. But it gets lumped into lists of "mysterious" disappearances to pad the lists and make the case seem stronger. You have to take each case individually, determine the facts of the case, THEN look for connections.
@@knghtcmdr I remember watching a documentary on Flight 19 on cable tv not long after 9-11 that brought up this fact but they didn't give any dates, they just said he had gotten lost before on a training mission.
This one really is easy to explain. Taylor became convinced that he was over the Keys, and therefore reported that his compasses were malfunctioning. Flight 19 has always been fascinating to me, but I think paranormal activity is easily ruled out. Flight 19 is a good lesson for all of us. It illustrates that, if you WANT to see paranormal activity, you can find it even in a more mundane case. Given that this case is far from mundane, it's easy to see why so many paranormal investigators believe this case is a result of paranormal activity. It's also a lesson for each of us on a personal level. Taylor became convinced that he knew exactly where he was, and as a result was also convinced that the navigation equipment of the entire flight was malfunctioning. Had he trusted his (albeit inexperienced) navigators, Flight 19 might have made it back to base safely, and never would have become anything more than a mistake on Taylor's resume.
Jackson Lynch - Agree completely. My daughter is a 16-year-old student pilot, with *three times* the number of flight hours these aviators possessed, and she still struggles with dead reckoning over familiar highways and towns, much less over water. (Her plane is a Cessna 152, with not much more in the way of instrumentation than Flight 19 possessed.) It makes complete sense that these inexperience pilots got turned around, confused the Cays for the Keys, and then once panic set in... they were done. Nothing paranormal here. Ditto to every word you said. But still a fascinating story!
@Shasta Graff This is really unfair. Navigation over open water is a really difficult thing to do. It's one thing to state that Taylor made a mistake (which he very likely did). It's quite another to accuse him of being incompetent (which he very likely wasn't)
Ok so experienced flyers ignore navigation equipment and navigation personal and go I'm better ha even know they were trained to follow orders and believe in the equipment until better info comes to them ok. I think you are just saying its easy to explain so you don't have to think other wise. Sceptic's need to learn to stop thinking ow its easy to explain or oh mundane and simpality is the only explanation there is because it's really not sceptics need to think better instead off being such simpletons.
@@theimmortalsuperbeing549 I can't tell you how ironic it is for me to read a post with so many misspelled words and then find myself being called a simpleton at the end. You're definitely entitled to your opinion. And I'm equally entitled to mine. And in the end, we all have to come to terms with what we believe is and isn't plausible. But there's no need for name-calling. Don't be that guy
As usual, lots of people in the comments section claiming to be experienced in this and that, amateur investigators, experts in such and such. None of you were there, and never will be.
There is nothing creepy about the Bermuda Triangle, it's just a name given to an area where a lot of pleasure craft are traveling all the time, so naturally there's going to be more accidents... There is no mystery, folks :-)
@@marhawkman303 I don't think we approached the Taured case from "the believer side". We were impartial. We stated that there is no credible source for the story and that it originated in a book as an "also rans" paragraph with nothing to back it up.
I've been watching your videos for a couple of hours now but you've already convinced me to never go in the woods or even near the ocean ever again and if I don't quit watching them I'm going to be afraid to even leave the house
I have just read all the comments about this video. Thoughtful and informative. I too heard about Flight 19 and the Bermuda Triangle years ago and wondered if there was any ""magnetic"" issue that caused problems with planes and water craft. This was a terrific episode. Informative, detailed and compassionate. Like one of your earlier followers, I to find it sad more than creepy. What is it that's in me that still wonders about the Infamous Bermuda Triangle? Is it the "beat ups"" of other stories surrounding the Triangle....the "What iffs"". Not regarding Flight 19....just What Iff!!Nah...nothing in it. Really liked the art work. I"m hooked!!
Nice job. A far more suspense themed episode, and no less tragic. Nice job mentioning the TBM's WWII achievements at the end too. And yeah, to people who aren't war buffs, they will think the Avenger is associated with the Bermuda Triangle.
I've been watching RU-vid for years, but I just found this channel recently. I wish I'd known about this channel sooner, I watched a few videos on this channel and liked them all! Great narration and VERY informative!
Stories I'm requesting you please tell: Cowman of Copalis, kelly-hopkinsville goblins, coral castle, Fredrick Valentich, Skinwalker Ranch, Mysterious powers of Don Decker, Covenanters Churchyard and Bloody MacKenzie's tomb, Jef the mongoose, of all these I think you guys could do an excellent job of bringing Skinwalker Ranch to vivid life and there are no versions of it on RU-vid (besides George Knapp lectures, and you guys would easily get a million views and probably 50-100k subs!!!)... Thanks for being such an excellent (and unjustly overlooked) channel!!!
That was an excellent storytelling experience. You held the Flight in respect making no assumptions or guesses. Thank you. My father, a Naval CWO back in the 70s told me about this one while he was still in. I think he may have had his own ideas based on what his fellow crewmen had heard and seen over the years. He never told me of sightings, but once gave me a UFO magazine out of the blue. I do miss him.
Okay, for everyone who continually posts those 'I don't understand how you don't have more subs' comments... That can be rectified berry easily - pass the good word along, not just to your friends on the Internet, but your friends and family in the Real World.
I was on a plane that flew into Bermuda when I was about 13, I knew of the stories because I was heavy into the paranormal, and was quietly freaking out. To make matters worse, there wasn't a single cloud in the sky over the water, which isn't out of the normal perhaps, but just knowing where I was make it scarier. Nothing earth shattering haha, just sharing my wack little anecdote.
This is a lesson to not follow orders if they are absolutely ridiculous. The lead pilot was pretty stupid in his decision. Going west was so obvious smh. Feel bad for the rookies.
Does sound like there was an ego at work here: a man who's always right, so anything to the contrary must be wrong. I know where I am, so if the compasses disaggree, they must be faulty. The advice of others being ignored because that would mean admitting I'm wrong...
Wouldn't be much left of the planes to find after 70 years in salt water and most likely buried under the silt. Would be cool if someone found them. Which actually surprises me that all these shipwreck hunters don't look for them. I bet if that flight had been carrying gold they would have been found by now.
You know, I'm not so sure about them being that degraded. There's a lot of aluminum and fabric in an Avenger. And they did find five other ones a few years back, in good enough condition to actually be able to (with difficulty) decipher the serial/flight numbers.
Thanks so much, once again my friends! :) In addition to other memories of this event from a variety of sources, I recall the amazing inclusion of these aircraft at the beginning sequence of Spielberg's "Close Encounters of a Third Kind". An amazing show, from an extremely gifted Director! Still ranks as one of my fave "Hard Sci-Fi" fliks, in addition to "Contact", "2001/10", "Colossus: Forbin Project", "Andromeda Strain" and many others. Classics, to be sure. :)
I will be supporting you guys on my patron tomorrow! Outstanding work. I will also post your channel on subreddits that pertain to this creepy stuff! Thank you for making one about this mystery. I was stationed at this base last year and people always talk about it.
As a kid (late 70’s, early 80’s) - I was certain I would perish in the Bermuda Triangle. Definitely the scariest thing... even if I lived over a thousand miles away from it.
As a Native Floridian of 32 now going on 33 at the end of July, this story Never gets Old! However, I recently watched a documentary that showed a team looking for the Flight 19, finding an evidence of Flight 19 during the outbreak of Covid.......
There are oftentimes some serious misconceptions about this story. 1. The planes weren't new, 2. Most pilots involved were trainees, 3. the commanding officer was known to confuse his navigations and has already been forced to abandon his craft twice before cause of his drinking habit.
Reminds of an Episode from The Twilight Zone Original series called “The Last Flight”. Plus the episodes Closing narration couldn’t haven’t been more surreal and they totally fit to Flight 19 as well. Dialog from a play, Hamlet to Horatio: There are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy. Dialog from a play written long before men took to the sky: There are more things in heaven and earth and in the sky than perhaps can be dreamt of. And somewhere in between heaven, the sky, and the earth, lies the Twilight Zone.
You guys are on target! (pun intended) This was covered on Nova (PBS) back about 30 years ago. They also mentioned the Abaco Islands being mistaken for the Florida Keys. In fact, they said, ".... this is still a problem for modern pilots of planes using visual flight references". 'Modern', of course being 30 years ago. The gist of that episode was dispelling inaccuracies in the conspiracy books about the triangle. Another one they dispelled was some pleasure yacht that mysteriously vanished on a "clear calm day, about a mile off shore" without a trace. When Nova checked the National Weather Service for that day, it was raining, gale force winds and 10 foot swells. It was another whitewash by some conspiracy nuts trying to sell books. (always follow the money trail) Boats get lost in that kind of weather! Very simple! Another thing they pointed out, the triangle is the most heavily trafficked ship and air corridor in the world (at least at that time), and numerically there are more losses there than anywhere else. But statistically, it's the same as any other place.
James S.- Try telling that to the true "believers!" They'd rather go with every crazy story they hear, because they "feel" they're on to some ultimate truth. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so depressing.
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"The Cays are a long outstretched chain of islands, much like the Florida Keys, and from the air they look very similar." The Fish and Pensacola Cays look nothing like the Florida Keys, which are much larger and stretch out longer than the Cays. "How he accounted for the fact that they had arrived over the Keys in half the time it should have taken them is anyone's guess, but perhaps he assumed they had picked up a tailwind." That would be one hell of a tailwind, given that the distance from Grand Bahama to the Keys is over 350 miles and Flight 19 would have used up a lot more fuel than they had left, and that the maximum speed of the Avenger was 278 mph and 215 mph at cruising speed. Taylor assumed that he'd flown over Grand Bahama when he had actually flown over Great Abaco Island, so why would he assume that the flight had turned southwest towards the Keys after the bombing exercise when the only islands large enough to look like Grand Bahama from the air were to the north?
Good coverage of the Flight 19 mystery. I've always been fascinated by this one since I learned from my father that he worked with a man who was supposed to have gone out in one of those planes. He was replaced with one of the other poor fellows.
Your show is amazing and I love your presentation style. One thing though... you mentioned Kenneth Arnold and his UFO sighting in Nevada during a training exercise. Is that not maybe someone else? The Kenneth Arnold case involved his flight in Washington state when he witnessed nine shiny, 'saucer' shaped craft near Mt. Rainier. Your timeline is correct, but he was flying business in WA, not training in NV. Please keep your show going forever...
One of the biggest new theories to the loss of Flight 19, along with failing navigational aids, was the phenomena of spatial disorientation. This can play tricks on the mind, making you think you are in a given place, when in fact, you could be somewhere else entirely. Spatial disorientation took the lives of many experience, and novice, pilots. The area of the Bermuda Triangle, is believed to be much larger extending up into the Carolina coast. So the Flight 19 Avengers could be much further then where people may realize. There is another group of five Avengers just off the coast of Florida, but these are earlier Grumman TBF Avengers that went down in 1943. The Avengers of Flight 19 are actually later TBM Avengers built by General Motors Corporation. The demise of the earlier Avengers was determined to be in flight engine failure, possibly due to the ingestion of methane gas, which came up from the ocean floor. This makes sense for the disappearance of many planes and ships in the triangle. Much of the state of Florida is swampland, and methane gas is produced from the decomposition of organic material from swampland. Methane gas displaces oxygen in the air to cause engine failure in airplanes. It also could sink ships, because it would displace oxygen in the water, which compromises buoyancy of ships on water, causing them to sink.
I have been watching from day 1! I have been very quiet! I absolutely love you’re videos! But I need to ask is the SFX? Or some of them real? The artwork is is undeniable with just how superb it is.
I have no doubt that Taylor did not mean to doom them. He did as many of us do, fall back on what we know for certain (true to us) and the combination of stress probably did not help.
there is an older docu about F-19 that I believe is from the 1970s. It used to be on youtube but i cannot find it. It's a montage or whatever of line drawings and still images of the pilots and crew of the flight, with panning and zooming, quick cuts, and an eerie voiceover of the radio transmissions, "We cannot see land, the sea looks strange, help!" and what not. It was very much like the current mini-documentary we are watching now. The stark black & white drawings of the crew depict them in sheer panic and terror; this combined with the editing and ghostly, echo-y voiceover, allways terrfied me as a young teen. I'm 44 now i think i can view it again without losing sleep, Does anyone know which film i am refering to?
This story has fascinated me since I was a little kid. I think the first time I heard about it was on an episode of the Leonard Nimoy narrated TV show "In Search Of".
I don’t think anything can ever overshadow the TPD Avengers and all the American pilots who sunk four Japanese aircraft carriers on 6-4-1942 it was the turning point of WWII.
Back in the early 90's a salvage group looking for sunken ships came across a flight of TBY Avengers in the approximate location Flight 19 disappeared. The discovery was dismissed because some researchers claimed the tail numbers didn't match. To the best of my knowledge nobody ever bothered to check the accuracy of this. Nor did anyone give a suitable explanation for where the flight that was found came from. The media at the time claimed it must have been another lost flight, but nobody had any evidence that there ever was any other lost flight. The most likely explanation was that the numbers reported for the planes used by Flight 19 are wrong. This is entirely credible given that training and discipline within the US military reached its lowest ebb after WW2 since its creation all the way back in the American Revolution. Why are so many people so unwilling to accept credible explanations for mysteries? Think of Emilia Earhart or the Kennedy assassination. I think people have a desire for there to be mysteries. They don't want their enigmas explained.
My dad is a history buff; he absolutely loves watching things about war aircraft and ships, and this video is one of his favorites. I don’t get the appeal because stuff like this-planes disappearing without a trace-terrifies me! 😅
Great work guys. Massive fan of this channel. How do i contact you? Was interested in acquiring the rights to a couple stories here? Do lemme know. thanks
I remember watching a documentary which featured Flight 19's disappearance, in which it was reported that they had indeed found at least one of the 'planes. Of course, it could well be that this programme was one of a series of such whose task was to debunk theories which fall outside the boundaries of accepted science. Whilst sceptical of all claims I am, also, possessed of an open mind because it is in my nature to accept all things as possible, without actually being credulous...
None of the planes have been found. There are two accepted theories. Run out of gas out in the Atlantic, or they ended somewhere in the Swamps in Georgia or Florida.
Andrew Gruffudd- So it's possible Satan, it is called the "Devil's Triangle" after all, intercepted them, and forced Flight #19 to land at his International Hellport? Is THAT possible???
i don't know if this has been said but 'pilot error' is simply that something went wrong that can't be determined and is not mechanical. It isn't nececssarily that the pilot flamingoed up
I thought I had seen a documentary where because of the effects of a strong magnetic force caused by where the triangle is in proportion to the earths magnetic field, it effected the planes instruments and caused disorientation for a brief time. And by the time they could shake themselves out of it, it was too late. And with the planes not floating in the water and going straight down, I believe the documentary said that due to how the water currents were in the triangle, caused the planes to sink down pretty quickly.
Disappearance of Valentich is another eerie one, a pilot was supposedly attacked and killed by a UFO. Last transmission was “it’s on me now, and it’s not an aircraft...”
What wasn't mentioned in this video but was mentioned on the "Unsolved Mysteries" segment was that at least one of the navigators said, if they'd just turn West, they'd make it home.
Kenneth Arnold didn’t encounter one flying saucer over Nevada during a training exercise, he encountered 9 silver craft with a scalloped rear edges flying in the Pacific Northwest (Oregon or Washington if memory serves) while on private flight that had nothing to do with the military. Whoever did the research got a few things wrong.
The timeline on this is correct, but you are right... ...Arnold was in his own plane looking for a downed military aircraft near Mt. Rainier; there was reward money on offer. That's when he witnessed the squadron of nine unrecognizable craft...
I found this to be surprisingly enjoyable. It was refreshing to hear the story told in a linear, clear & inclusive fashion without ludicrous risible speculations. I have zero interest in the supernatural or the insane far too often anything deemed 'strange' is attributed to aliens, cryptids, ghosts a seemingly endless stream of toxic non-events. Apologies for meandering just to iterate an excellent, informative recount of a tragedy.
