The MYSTERY of the Gundrak Snake Tail 

"There is actually less to find here then there is end-game content in warlords of draenor" HAH! Well played.

Rest in peace Hayven we will remember you forever..

At 2:25 you can see Chris is desperately trying to figure out a way to bullshit his way outta this.

Only Jesse Cox would take a screenshot of a wiggly snake tale and blow it up to a poster size

Jesse's snake tail question is approaching meme status. At this point, if we get a Zandalar patch, I think he deserves an NPC in his name: Mojomaker Je'se. Doesn't have to play a major role in the story. Just a troll dude standing in front of a wall with a little snake tail poking out the bottom, while he yells "What does it mean mon?!" Also butterflies. Can't forget butterflies.

I got a serious problem with your content. You spend time in producing your videos, don't use capslock titles or even thumbnails with watermelons..that doesn't fit the standard RU-vid content. Just kidding. Keep up the work man, amazing videos!

so this can basically be chalked up to, "artists put silly things in the game without telling us sometimes"

"If that snaketail has been in FF14, not only would it have had a purpose, it would have shown up as a character two expansions later as part of the ongoing story." - Jess Cox

It was his 1st video that i watched... And now he's dead... Fuck cancer... Rest is Peace, I hope u are in better place

I wondered why Blizzard made such a cool and lore-filled zone like Zul'drak (though it was kind of dark and gloomy in color scheme) including that giant building at the end and never did anything with it. I don't know how they would have possibly squeezed in another raid, but it was a missed opportunity. It could have had players helping the ice trolls fight undead trolls and their Scourge emissaries to protect their god spirits from falling to corruption.

Gundrak was planned as Raid and my speculation is that this snake should be a Boss of the instance

Being a game developer myself I can vouch for the "sometimes artists just like to put in cool stuff" thing =)

RIP man..

If you played vanilla you'll recognize the color pattern and colors from the old ZG Hakkar model (back when you had to pull poison snakes to kill him)

6:42 Ouch ! Right in the heart, man ! LoL nice one

So cringe when he said super effective.

I think they should do expansion with all cutted from previous expansions content. Azjol-Nerub, Farahlon, Thal'Dranath and etc. All content that "didn't fit in expansion story".

0:55 Thanks for solving the mystery. I figured it looked something like that when you told me the snake just cut off. This would've been an amazing build up for a raid boss.

That burn at the end.

Hi hayven, I know that you're no longer here, but if you're in heaven thinking about this snake maybe it's sethrak, a loa.

Those 5 man WotLK instances were so fun with a geared prot warrior instant queues all day just speedrunning heroics

Seriously, the deadpan reading of that quote is GOLD

I didn't think it was a "mistake" not to do it, but instead i think it was nice to add about the raid, as many people probably didn't even know there were plans for such raid, and instead it went quiet and forgotten. Again, great video man, thumbs up. Yours is one of my favorite channels, i've watch the evolution of Scholo and SM so many times that i lost count... those 2 bring me back so many good memories. And finaly, i can't wait for the evolution of Sunken Temple !!!

rest in peace man, thank you for covering this. I love your content. you will be missed

the andwer from blizz is really disappointing

I like coming back to his channel every once in a while... Rest in Peace, Hayven

I watched this before work. Glad time hasnt gone backwards.

It's really a shame that the only way I get to know about this amazing guy is by finding out about his death. I've only watched two of his videos, and I'm already hooked for more. Rest in peace. You will never be forgotten.

I like the idea of a Gundrak raid in Northrend. The back of the Temple, going down to the east sea, shows a lot of structures, and they look intriguing enough.

This popped up as a rec out of the blue again. I smiled and am back to watch your content bro, Rest in Peace.

This was one of the best wow content vids I've seen, very intriguing and very well done!

damn it hasn't even been a week and I still miss him I cried for 2 hrs because I love his content

oooooooooooo dat burn on wod thou got em

I just discovered your channel and I just can't stop because you're showing me things I've wondered about for years, keep up the good work

Chris Metzen just had this face of "oh my God, when the hell did we even add that? I got no fucking idea. I'll just make a joke about it".

Miss you man! So i just watch all Videos of you again..

A good theory, and possibly a really good excuse lore wise, would be that, the snake tail could belong to Hakkar the soul flayer, or rather perhaps his emissary, who convinced the ice trolls to kill their loa so they could gain power. Yet in truth, Hakkar's reasons for "helping them" were just a front to not only take over eventually, but it also could be possible that not even Hakkar's fellow Loa are safe from his lust for blood.

"From the space that is everywhere and nowhere, the crooked serpent feasts on stars." - Il'gynoth

I think that snake tail is part of a loa (Ula-tek as you mentioned) of titanic proportions

why the fuck do the dev's look at these people like: wait that's in our game? that's a thing? fuck i didn't know that.

Nice little dig there are the end about the endgame content (or lack thereof) in Warlords of Draenor. :D

A Zul Drak raid would have been a pretty cool addition

Thank you for doing this video. Also thanks for mentioning me.

That WoD roast at the end tho

Obviously it's the soul flayer

The answer that the developer gave pretty much sums up the state of World of Warcraft, they literally have no idea what they are doing until we tell them what we want, then they tell us we think we want that but we don't. Love your videos mate and probably why I continue to watch, but seeing that idiot talk reminded me the reason I left the game.

This is right up my alley. WHY DIDN'T I KNOW ABOUT THIS!!!!

Every time now i hear this voice i cry... RIP man...

Holy shit that WoD burn at the end. Golden.

May your soul rest in peace, Hayven.

gundrak would've been better than Trial of crusader...

If you were to be able to glitch past the ledge and jump on the snake, would you be able to walk on it or would you fall right through it?

Soon at the end.. The journey we all had getting there was great.

Lore? Trolls? I don't think Blizzard has ever uttered those words within an hour of each other.

You mentioned we have never been inside the main building of Gundrak. I love your videos and I would love to see if there is some hidden rooms within the instance or in the uninstanced version as well.

I heard it was a suppose to be a boss that was removed during development for another section of the gundrak area. Maybe a raid boss. Getting info from Blizzard highly depends on who you talk to. Cause I doubt Metzen remembers barely a quarter of the stuff that goes on in WoW due to everyone and every team is in charge of something that he doesn't really watch over closely. I could put a dick in the game and I think it'll take blizzard 5 years to find it hiding in the leg of jaina.

I don't even play this game idk why this was recommended to me. but now I gotta know what is this snake

Occham's Razor, man. It was something someone designed which looked cool and they probably had some basic ideas of what to do with it and it was forgotten about.

There are some giant snake remains you can find in the waters off the coast of Stranglethorn Vale, at least in the Classic version of the game, idk if it got removed with Cataclysm, so very massive snakes are certainly tied to trolls. I would bet though that if they'd made Gundrak a raid that snake would've been one of the bosses

Love the atmospheric musics from your videos. Keep the good work !

Thanks for the repost

OMG IT JUST CAME UPON ME!!! What if, it is just a regular gigantic snake chilling around having no care in the world? Can't a snake snake in peace nowadays? THINK ABOUT THE SNAAAAAKES!!!!

Played WoW since TBC and had no idea this was even there, it's a very interesting and I highly assume it's just something to look cool for the dungeon, and could expand into the Gun'drak raid, which sadly never made it

6:42 sick burn :D

RIP Hayven :(

really thank yo for this video, I really wanted to find out more about this tail. a Gundrak raid would have been awesome.

They should really have the art director on those panels so they can actually explain the decision to put things in places.

3:00 is an honest answer to how blizzard make lore nowdays

I've never seen that Jesse Cox blizzcon video til now, it's amazing young jesse!

Ahaha, thank you SO much for this. I was just in there the other day & wondering yet again wtf that snake tail was for! 😂

It looks like hakkar. Is it hakkar? Kinda has hakkars colours

Snake tail? Interesting, I always thought it was a long floating kite.

I actually thought it was a reference to Hakkar the Soulflayer, the colour scheme is very similar. Also, the whole Gundrak raid thing, wasn't it like a lot of things and just cut content? Cause then the 'preview' would make sense. They did it with the Throne of the Tides, where they left Neptulon's story unfinished since they never released the Abyssal Maw. In all seriousness though, I always thought it was just a reference to Hakkar, since the trolls in Zul'Gurub worshipped him and it is a troll dungeon (albeit a different type of troll, but trolls nontheless lol). Love your videos man :D

Goodnight, Guardian of the Light.

Rest in peace Hayven

Well just want to say that it's probably the off spring of the snake loa that dies in the area, it may of intended to be a massive boss in a further encounter (like King dred) but it was likely just ment to be a model design

Thank you for this video... i'm a lil disappointed there wasn't more to the snake. like most people. i too have wondered about the snake and what was at the back of that wall. at least i know now :) xx wonderful work as usual x thumbs up from me

Metzen at 2:22 "This is what I created. This is my legacy."

i truly miss this man, rip buddy

i fucking love the guy who took a screenshot with him

I remember speculation that this thing escaped from Uldum back in the day, when it was just a giant door.

again I must say savage XD at the end

I always felt it was some "Hakkar" type that we might see later :)

Rest in peace Hayven😢

I remember seeing this in Gundrak and thinking "oh crap, that's going to be the final boss, isn't it?" And then... nada, nothing. Way to tease, Blizzard.

Just some thoughts: Look at the color of the tail and then look back to Hakkar. This could be what drives the trolls crazy.

Heh, I've been wondering about this thing for a while too. Shame we'll probably never find out what it's meant to be though.

Probably being optimistic but it does leave options to use it in the future.

damn.. i was so excited to get into that final building all the way on top of gun'drak when i leveled my first character there just to find out nothing would ever be there... they should just do an expansion where they wrap up every little story they cut out at some point

RIP Hayven you are a good WoW player

Gundrak raid was one of those things they managed to not fuck themselves on and promise us beforehand. Instead, it's something that as a player, you only catch on to the fact we were shorted on more content later down the line. It's so blatantly obvious that was meant to be a WotLK troll raid that they scrapped for whatever reason.

I strongly believe it was for the (scrapped) raid of trolls, not surprise that blizz didn't implement troll raid because 1) story actually ends well with gul'drak and 2) there was always heavy backlash around the idea of troll raids since ever (yet they did 2 zul'again in cata, whatever i didn't really play during cata in first place)

Liked, i found this really interesting!

The tail kinda has the same color as Harkkars tail. (Harkkar, i dont know if i am spelling that right, was the final boss in Zul´gurub up to cataclysm where Zul´gurub was chanced to a dungeon and Harkkar was deleted from the instance and replaced with Jin´zo The Godbreaker as the final boss, btw rest in peace Hayven i will miss you so much) :(

Like the question asking dude at blizzcon, somthing else has been eating at me for a very long time. In the instance escape from durnhold, aka old hillsbarad, there is a village that shows up on the map on the west side. When you try to go to it, there is first green smoke that gets more dense as you go and then there is an invisable wall. You litterally cant go thru it. My friend actually used a hack just to try to go thru, and the hack ment for going thru invis walls wouldnt let you. The freecam mod works just fine and even then you couldnt go thru (the invis wall hack works just fine mind you :p) I was wondering if one of your tools can see the village and hopefully its good enough for a video if you decide to take a look :) It looks like blizz really doesnt players to see whats here, but why put it in the game? I havent tried going there outside of the instance, but its old hillsbarad...its probably not there uninstanced. This dungeon came out in TBC, so the cataclysm has nothing..

Mystery solved then. Thanks for the clarification (:

Totally forgot about this snake. Even thought I just did Gul'drak in timewalking! I like to think it's just a Loa/Wild God thing that's randomly there.

Keep up the good work man

Loved it, thank you sir!:)

Fallen Paladin, rest well in the Heavens with Uther and Tirion!