In the case of Pink Rathian, a pink colouring would actually make them more stealthy in desert or even coastline environment. Pink has been found to be an effective camo at dawn and dusk, so she should have become much more active at those times and at night.
@@canadianbutt275it’d be incredibly interesting if it was revealed that the raths actually developed in the new world and moved over to the old world some thousands of years prior to the start of the games, with the highlands explaining the pink and azure subspecies.
Yeah, World poisoned all your minds into thinking Monster Hunter should double down on something it always struck a healthy balance between itself and its gameplay in the past. After all, the overwhelming majority of things discussed in this video are applicable to the pre-5th gen games! It was already there, it just had the grace of subtlety.
@@emblemblade9245 I'm pretty sure most of the video's points are taken from the art and databooks. Those things read like an encyclopedia. iirc, the old and new games both keep their ecological details on the slimmer side compared to the books.
Love that little padding in case Sunbreak gets white espinas in a title update. Quality work, as always, and just the treat I needed to raise my mood after finishing work!
Pink rathian might not be able to camouflage in forests and deserts, but in the coral highlands it can camouflage better than regular rathian. Since there is a lot of pink there, but not nearly enough green. So that's probably why it can be found there
It can be a habitat more suited for them, but they are present way before the discovery of the new (new) world. Maybe it originated there and migrated to the old world where it had to be more territorial. Who knows
But still coral Highland are exclusive biome to new world while pink rathian already exist from old world and mostly only found it forest, so the pigment are rly just a disadvantaged that force them into aggressive, them being in coral are just them being lucky rather than evolutionary advantages, as pink rathian evolution was not start in the new world.
@@christosgiannopoulos828 don't quiet catch it, invasive by definition usually mean they don't belong to that place, so I take it u mean what if pink rathian are migrated from other place to the old world? Well if that the case at least I doubt it's from new world. After all new world are a destination for majority of monster migrated to die out bcs its unusual lands energy, ofc there are native but I believe the native are a creature that adapted there and derived from other species that migrated there from other place. So I imagine if there are an actual native from this continent it would be a species that are not common to the old world as the raths which pink rathian belong to are a species that very commonly native to forest in the old world If there is something that migrate from new world to old world the only creature I can think of are the elder dragon bcs they are the main rule breaker in this universe
In terms of members of the main species and subspecies interbreeding, “viable offspring” means both healthy and fertile, so they cannot be sterile to be considered a subspecies Also, the British military actually used the colour pink for desert camouflage, and it’s especially effective during the evening (All that being said, loving the content)
The quality of these documentaries just keeps improving every time. Your explanation of evolution was spot-on. The only thing that was oversimplified was the focus on mutations as the driving force of evolution. While mutations are an unavoidable consequence of reproduction, genetic recombination and imprinting also contribute to the variety of the gene pool. (Might be more of a "Well, actually ..."-fact since you had to keep it focusedm but oh well.) Keep it up, mr. monster hunter. ProtectTheCreature/10
Another explanation you could use for Gravois is "Adult forms" like Locust and Grasshopper. I'm not super knowledgeable about it, But Depending on Environmental conditions or something, Grasshoppers may turn into locust which Seek out each other and live in swarms that fly around rather than individually like when in there Grasshopper Adult forms.
Fun fact: Locusts actually fit the mh definition of "variant," because a locust is created when a grasshopper survives repeated blows, like a swarm constantly bumping into each other. The hormonal reaction causes increased metabolism, which in turn leads to increased size and hunger. This continues until the population collapses via starvation, thus ensuring that locust swarms can't spread.
The old school nature documentary lover in me is thoroughly enjoying these. I know one day you'll probably stop but I'm going to enjoy the ride until then.
While you are making this video for monster hunter. Generally speaking the lessons learned here can be applied irl. Very cool and fun way to explain scientific terms
I think a good example would be Almudron, a large monster that lives in lake/water/mud areas, even swimming and diving in it. It thrives there, even if it's in a desert. It's subspecies is Magma Almudron (or Magmalmudron) who is capable of living in extremely hot areas, and can even swim and dive in molten lava
The issue with reclassification isn't an in-universe one, but a business-based one. Every Monster is registered/trademarked according to its original inception due to the way these Monsters are named in Japanese. In Japan, all non-Variant/Deviant classifications are just "[X Monster] [Sub/Rare] Species", which means they can't add additional Sub/Rare Species or change them to Variants, lest they have to make an entirely new trademark for the reclassified Monster. And since they're extremely rigid about Variants/Deviants not developing in the same way as Sub/Rare Species, old erroneous classifications won't be changing anytime soon.
These videos generally pretend that the games are "real" so as to not break immersion, I didnt want to suddenly talk about capcoms naming conventions :P
@@Oceaniz I think you could've worked it in, like how every single book and record has already had each given name in print for years now, and suddenly changing them in light of updated taxonomic information would be an absolute nightmare of a product recall in a non-digital age with entirely new trademarks (in-universe) needing to be drawn up, so the Guild just doesn't do it for convenience sake regarding older classified Subspecies.
Well Oceaniz but canonically within the game universe the guild naming convention for subspecies is also simply the name of the base species plus the word subspecies. So it would make sense for you to talk about it in the video
Being a huge taxonomy nerd, it always bothered me how the term subspecies was thrown all over the place in Monster Hunter. If anything the best example of a subspecies in Monster Hunter would be the old world and new world raths. You cannot look at me in the eye and tell me fulgur and normal anjanath are the same species. Genus maybe, but species no. Love to see a video clearing up a lot of the misconceptions, especially the whole black diablos thing, ugh that annoys me to this day.
Tbh, this content is a big reason why I got into Monster Hunter like I did. After watching these and then playing, you notice every little detail that makes the world feel alive.
Fan theory related to Pink Rathian: Besides people's observations that pink can and has been used as camo, there are two other reasonings I can think of for the pink colouration: 1. Warning to potential predators that Pink Rathian is venomous 2. Given Dreadqueen adopts spotty purplish colouration as a result of poison overproduction, I think it's safe to assume Pink Rathian's scales aren't pink purely cosmetically, but probably also due to a difference in poison production. IIRC Pink Rathian does use Deadly Poison in some games while regular Rathian doesn't.
I love that frontier reference in the rare species section cu yes there is a rare species espinas.. and by god is it horrifying defence down paralysis and poison.
If we take it by our worlds taxonomy, a "mainspecies" like rathalos for example would also be a subspecies of the species rathalos if there were any other subspecies, basically if there are multiple subspecies to a species, the species gets divided into these subspecies so there would be no mainspecies, as all of the subspecies are part of that species so a "normal" rathalos would also be a subspecies and part of the species rathalos, name could be something like red rathalos
I have to say your work is amazing and could see this level of quality on something such as Netflix. I am so glad I found your channel last week due to your massive 5 hr video I watched from beginning to end one day
Damn... you got me thinking that they were real for a moment. Sadly they're not. Always dreamt about hearing the roar of a brachy and jumping into him from my window...
More, please. I love this scientific look at Monster Hunter. I wish the games had more info you could uncover as you hunt monsters. It would give an incentive if you could research them and obtain more in-depth info.
black gravios would actually be more simliar to a variant since black Gravios is a basarios that instead of going to the dessert went instead to the volcano when it was still a juvenile
IMO, subspecies are probably just a different species in a genera. Like there’s the normal Raths that are one species, then in the same genus there’s a colored species, and then a metallic species as well. Most irl subspecies are basically just the same animals as the species as a whole, so different species in monster Hunter would explain how there are two very different anjanaths, with very different elements
Love your videos. Have you ever considered making a video on the small animals and speculate on their evolutionary relation to the larger ones. I always liked to observe the small creatures, like the Snow-faced Fox, I wonder if it is related to the Zinogre, Mizutsune or both even.
The part about the misunderstanding of Black Diablos being a female Diablos being in heat. What if the Pink Rathian was a natural evolution of it adapting to it's environment, like the Coral Highlands? What if it was just a big misunderstanding? What if the origins of Pink Rathian were from an environment like the Coral Highlands but the first ever sightings of a Pink Rathian was the result of it migrating to a new area? And it's aggressive behavior is the result of it adapting to it's new evironment? My reasoning for this is because in World I've always fought a Pink Rathian in 3 locations, Highlands, Wildspire, and the Guiding Lands. Pink Rathian seems to blend in naturally in the Coral Highlands.
I think you should have pointed out lagiacrus sub and rare species since they, in their core are not really that different genetically from the normal lagiacrus, specially abyssal, that is just a older lagiacrus that lives on deeper seas
I wonder if a Crimson Fatalis would be considered a sub-species? Or is it still a Fatalis, and merely an individual changing due to some variable (like rage)? If it is true the Crimson Fatalis is simply a really mad normal Fatalis, than that wouldn't be a sub-species, right?
I think Crimson and White Fatalis are both Variants rather than subspecies, since they’ve all but confirmed with lore that White Fatalis is just a much older version of the Black Dragon.
They are Deviants, which are themselves a special kind of Variant. Subspecies are genetically different and born that way, whereas Variants are singular monsters that changed during their lifetimes due to extreme conditions or incidents. We will cover them in a future episode!
This is well done, but I have a question. Why aren't variants getting focus? What makes them different than subspecies, and a normal version, like a Furious Rajang for example? What about those that are influenced by external influences, like Risen Elder Dragons, or the Arch-Tempered? Why are Deviants more dangerous than normal? I'm just asking for those who aren't that well versed with variants.
Variants are individual monster that are different in some way. Like how furious rajang is a rajang that lost its tail and is in a constant rage state. It won't pass down the tailless trait, because it's just something that happened. In human terms: eye color is a subspecies trait, it's hereditary. If someone loses their arms in an accident, and becomes extremely proficient with their legs won't pass down this trait to their son.
Wait.... I thought Pink Rathians were just exceptionally aged Rathians. With Gold Rathians being even older still? At least, that's what I remember from the various Hunter's Notes over the course of the games....
okok hear me out, i blame the riders for this, want prof go ask tobi his my fireball spitting lvl 57 azuros or lament my ice element lvl 50 deviljho, jk aside great video i love the analysis on mh monsters
Your definition of subspecies is not an accurate description of what a subspecies really is but it is very close. This primary definition is incorrect and incomplete because of things like the ligar, tigon, and other hybrids along those lines. Technically subspecies only means that they are still able to reproduce with the origin species and amongst themselves they don't need to be able to reproduce with all other sister subspecies. A perfect example of this and how it works is the sun salamanders along the California mountain range. The species are able to breed with populations that neighbor each other along their respective sides of the mountain range but where they meet up again on the opposite side of the mountain range from where they started they can't reproduce. There are other examples involving rabbits in the united states for example the neighbors of each other starting in Florida and going northward towards Alaska are able to reproduce but that ability completely breaks down before you get to Alaska. The next thing is that yes sometimes a subspecies can reproduce with all other subspecies but this isn't a true definition. Lastly there are many times when a variation that happens because of one reason or another is sufficiently unique to produce an actual species or subspecies all on its own. An example of this is when just recently we found a random mutation in crayfish that are able to reproduce without mating and it all stemmed from a single individual. Many times when a subspecies emerges what happens is a small group of the parent species separate themselves or are separated by other means which results in a slow genetic drifting which will eventually result in a complete species being created however it can and does happen because of individuals from time to time. A perfect example of how that can occasionally happen look at the polar bears they have a common ancestor with another bear in the lower parts of the United States and with happen is the more hospitalable parts of the United States where bears still have access to fruit and such they have retained the related adaptations but polar bears lost some and gained new ones however they can on occasion still breed with the appropriate bears in the united states. They can trace the genetic markers of the white fur and black skin to a single specific female bear at least 1000 years ago. Just so you know I'm not saying that they have that specific bear in some location somewhere I'm saying that all genetic markers point to a single individual of family being the reason for their existence.
And then you have basil goose the middle finger of nature as it's the first invasive species to be introduced to monster Hunter thing this everywhere and anywhere at all times
sadly that the copper blangonga from freedom unite 2, the one that was a normal one, then got his troup killed, thus whent on a pilligramage on the desert, and adapted, is not that much valued in lore, since if we took that quest info as cannon ,copper blangongas would be by all rigths ,deviants, ofcourse, before deviants were a thing ,but still mad cred for a monster species much neglected, yet has some fans like me
It's fun to do spec evo with monster hunter, but most of the monsters don't make sense. Some do, but most don't. Like zinogre, magnamalo, and others. With huge amounts of copium, you can make valstrax work.
I think they are too different to be subspecies, in real life subspecies are almost identical, the bengal tiger and the sumatran tiger are subspecies but are almost the same
@@YuriCcrt34 I don't know until we get a mh game with monoblos and Diablos where there bios correct it I think it's still going to be a confirmed subspecies seeing as in 4 u Diablos bio being the last time they shared a main line game only say that the 2 monsters share similar attacks
18:23 For anyone who’s wondering just how powerful rare species are, they have the power to rival Elder Dragons. Even though they don’t have the same effect on the ecosystem as Elders, they can still give the Elder Dragons a run for their money in a fight.
Alright, Roanoke I love u, but tbh you're channeling that energy some people get that just because they played a zombie game and they think they can survive a zombie outbreak
