The Navy's Need for FA-XX: Revealing the Ultimate Fighter 

Indeed - I remember taking to my dad about the ATF completion - and here we are.

Cheer up, we're still flying/buying the F-15.

Both programs recognize the research of the NASA Aerospike engine research for hypersonic flight as demonstrated by the square nozzle outlets....GE has developed hypersonic cyclic engine which use rotation Denotation pulse rockets. I think the US NAVY needs to verify if the F35c can accept this engine design and use square outlets...

@@fleetingimprov6171 BTW They're updating the engines on the B-52. It's a custom version of the Rolls-Royce BR725 commercial engine. They will be built in the USA at their Indiana facility.

Thank you! Next video is the A-12 Avenger. Aiming for next Friday, as long as my CPU can keep remodeling, stay tuned!

Great video 🇨🇦 Veteran

Agreed this

I would assume f35 an f/a-xx & its unmanned counterpart. Will all have the EW & CEW capability that we are used to with prowler an growler. The pods an arrays need to be deployed internally. So either the equipment needs to be built in or use the aircrafts own systems. Tberes a pod that f-35 has been testing i asssuem many are in the works. The b21 should def have its own EW & CEW capabilitys

God bless your Father for his service to this country. God Bless you as well.

​​@@DallasBates-xm5vfI've seen it said that f35 block 4 has greater ew capability than growler already. I can't verify it tho

I hope the Chinese government don't get a hold of this technology

The F-35 and the drones that they build for the NGAD program. They will be the workhorses for the navy and air force.

@@ameritoast5174 Agreed, F-35 is the QB, NGAD/FA-XX are the knife fighters (defenders), drones (multi-mission), and until Drones are missile trucks F-15EX will be filling in. The F-16 Viper, F-36 Kingsnake, and F-15 EX will be inexpensive stand in when 5th/6th gen are not needed or to increase force multiplier.

@gld1010 the Kingsnake is just a concept and not happening. F-15 ex will be the airforce missile truck that follows behind to unload on an enemy.

@@ameritoast5174 I don't see anything that states the concept is dead? But I wouldn't doubt it, since it will probably be a waste of potential development funding for a long term and better replacement like the NGAD.

@gld1010 it was just a concept and the airforce turned it down a long time ago. So ots not in developmenr or anything else. Atleast thats my understanding. I wish it went through but that didn't happen.

Doesn't that mean the two F-35s have to communicate with each other? Do they have laser comms or other tight beam tech? Because if not, they're still giving away their positions.

@@Karackal From what I understand they have some sort of secure encrypted communication links, not only to communicate with each other but with all the other systems as well. It functions as a communications node/hub while processing, gathering, analyzing tons of data. The computational system is basically what makes the F35 and true 5th gen jets truly amazing and revolutionary, more so than their stealth characteristics, which are important but secondary and not comparable to the importance of their computation, sensor/radar fusion and information processing. Like the air chief of staff said; it´s a super computer that happens to fly. That is the reason why communist Chinas J20 is not a true 5th gen jet, it lacks that advanced computation technology and sensor fusion and information processing capability. It`s just a low observable jet, nothing more, it lacks the core essence of the 5th gen revolutionary nature. And even the stealth part of the J20 is questionable, since they don`t have decades of experience with RAM and they have not operated several stealth jets, plus China`s industry lacks the advanced manufacturing technology and capability, which makes their stealth technology even more questionable. Their lack of technological prowess or at least inferior tech utilized in the J20 is the reason why so many high-ranking military officers stated that they aren`t concerned about the J20, and that they do not lose sleep over it.

@@Karackal The newest datalink technology basically splatters the message across such a wide range of the electromagnetic spectrum that unless you have the transmission pattern (which is synced before entering combat), the messages just look like ambient noise. Even if a data packet was captured by dedicated e-war suites , it wouldn't look like anything in particular. It would take some serious data processing and hyperspectral analysis to retrieve a heavily encrypted communication from a modern datalink. Basically, as long as the AWACS has been taken out by an F-22, NGAD, or F/A-XX; the F-35s can fly around like assassins and take out all the planes looking for the attacking aircraft.

@@Karackal the MADL they use is beamform and can reach gigabit data speeds if necessary, they got it down

@Kenny-yl9pc The fusion and computational achievements of the F35 approach godlike capabilities. It can also launch missiles from warehouse planes and even integrate with SAM systems like the Patriot and launch surface to air interceptors from the ground based system without the ground based system ever having to lite up a fire control radar. Edit There's also a new type of missile called the "Mutant Morphing Missile" that's being put into testing soon that supposedly can bend and change its shape during flight to be able to intercept anything that flies.

It would be a good idea if the "CCA" UAVs don't work as well autonomously as desired.

why on earth would you put a drone pilot in the plane? Extremely unnecessary risk of assets.

@@grantrobinson2898 not a "drone" (singular) pilot. The second seater would control MULTIPLE offboard weapon platforms (another way to look at drones/loyal wingmen). This is no different than current wizzo duties.

I agree 100%. AI isn’t there yet. We don’t have droids like R2-D2’s who are able to help co pilot aircraft! This type of aircraft definitely needs two crewman to help with task saturation.

Yea I thought about the same and came basically to the same conclusion. But with the caveat of not having any experience or qualification in aviation engineering or military aviation and technology in general (although I have an engineering degree). What is their reasoning behind this decision, does anyone know? There must be a good reason for it, surely. Maybe it´s about cost reduction, or they are very confident in their future AI ability/capability to handle diverse and general threat situations appropriately. Or it could be an engineering decision at its core, that maybe the dimensions and increased complexity for an additional pilot is not suitable for the requirements. I don´t know, those are just some basic ideas after thinking about it for around 10 seconds.... ^^ I am happy to hear any suggestions or thoughts around the matter.

​@@Kenny-yl9pc That's probably what the DOD has been figuring out by using its fleet of AI piloted F-16s.

You are working based upon information on technology, that you have access to. That's not the same information that the companies making these aircraft have. If they figure out stabilization, it won't even be simply AI, they'll have onboard connections to a remote Quantumn Computer, and skip past AI, as we know, entirely.

@@ProudFilthyCasual No definitely not quantum computers. They are only really useful for encryption related matters.

Thank you and yes, one day I will figure out a way to do an Ace Combat video :)

Yeah I somewhat see it, the XFA-36 is one of absolute favourite "fictional" designs in Ace Combat.

It needs a two seater so the second person can be used to control the drones that are usual sent with the fighter jets.

Love your videos.

do you know why it's taking as long as it is? just curious as I don't really hear the Navy talking too much about the state of things

@@forzaelite1248 As I understand it, the carriers themselves need some modifications before they can operate the F-35. Plus there's the pilot training syllabus. They have one RAG squadron right now and one operational squadron. The pilots will have to go to the RAG squadron, then take delivery of their fighters, then go through workups before they will even be able to deploy. I don't know for sure but I assume that the NAVY has factored all this in, so their procurement of F-35s will be scheduled appropriately with all of this so the timing will work out without screwing up the budget.

@@GoSlash27 ah okay, that lines up with what I heard about the exhaust melting the blast doors (P&W don't play lol). From what I've gathered they're more focused about defining the doctrine for 6th gen and stealth in their air wings and are waiting for Block 4 before ordering more but it does seem like they're willing to go all in when it's feasible. A bigger budget would probably help in a lot of places but the oversight needs way more improvement to ensure money isn't wasted on unrealistic claims/deadlines like before

@@forzaelite1248 That tracks with my understanding of the situation. Keep in mind that I'm *not* an expert on this, so I could be totally off. I get my info on this the same way you do. The JBDs' inability to handle the heat from those engines seems to be a major bottleneck, and also for some reason the non- skid coating on the flight deck, which apparently ablates and becomes a FOD issue. Plus the sensor fusion and datalinks shipboard hardware (which I know from personal experience is a logistical nightmare). Pulling out the old ship cabinets and installing the new stuff requires literally torching holes in the hull and then welding them shut. That can't be fixed until the carriers come in for refit, and those refit schedules are set in stone years in advance. My *speculation* is that the Navy doesn't want to buy large blocks of F-35s and then have them sitting around in warehouses in the desert until they can be flown, but rather buy them in appropriate lots so they can be smoothly integrated in a timely manner without blowing up the budget. That's generally how these rollouts have gone in the past, but the timing of everything is more critical in this case. The planes, pilots, and flight decks have to all become available at the same time for maximum cost efficiency and minimum loss of combat effectiveness.

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From what I read about the rotation detonation engine technology, it´s still far from being operational or functional for that matter. They have difficulties scaling it up and to make it efficient.

@@Kenny-yl9pchuh? I thought that rotating detonation was only to counteract a phenomenon that happened inside the combustion chamber, and rotating detonation is only for slightly increased trust and better efficiency. Sort of like injectors and differential cams (Vtec) in car engines, but now I’m not so sure. I’m going to look into it. Edit: Also I remember that the most difficult reason as to why implementing this on current engines is because of overheating problems. And we need to do some more R&D to come up with better alloys that can withstand the heat

RDE would be replacing the current combustion Chambers but as we "just" achieved to let them function and development still needs a large amount of time i think we will Not see them anytime soon but maybe in a Future block version.

@@GolddenWaffles I wasn`t talking about fuel efficiency. They cannot scale them up therefore they aren't suitable for operating airplanes or ships, basically anything useful at this point at least. Maybe in the future it changes, but they are far from operational or useable or useful for that matter. It´s more like an interesting research project without applicability at this stage. That`s at least what I understand, but I`m no expert.

Indeed - gotta have that range. Thanks for commenting!

I think it's the one sure thing we know at this point. Other than it will be more stealthy

Agree that X-36 was crucial in developing control systems for gen. 6 fighters.

Thank you John! Next video is a “what if” on the A-12 Avenger, should be done in a couple of days.

A-12 is next! Friday September 15th, see you then and thanks for commenting

might not be a consideration. maybe it has an integral DEW that can perform that function. maybe its not maneuverable enough to practically use one. too many unknowns to speculate on something like that with certainty, but if I had to I would say no. F-35C already didn't have one, and the F/A-XX will have an even greater emphasis on stealthy BVR fighting, with a big deemphasis on individual lethality given the loyal wingmen, and the inevitable design tradeoffs needed to be made for RCS reduction

The USN's F-4s never adopted a gun that really worked, and yet they had a kill-ratio considerably better than that of the USAF, who did. The fact of the matter is that the absence of a gun wasn't the problem with the F-4, but the lackluster training of the pilots and poor maintaining of the missiles. After the Navy solved both of those, the F-4 became more than capable of doing its job with no gun at all.

Wingman drone with a cannon 😊

they don't affect it at all, identical signature to normal ones. the thing that does is going to be exhaust plume shaping that can be done by 2D nozzles, only seen on the Raptor so far. they do actually somewhat reduce effective RCS though as they can allow for flight control adjustments without needing control surface movement that can sometimes temporarily increase RCS.

The requirement of longer range....The US Navy had jet and propeller planes capable of doing this like the S3 Viking with astounding ferry range and fuel economy using a turbo fan jet. The problem is the metric of not using flight time or duration of the flight. Another problem is the fuel used to achieve the hyperbolic trajectory to reach the area of operations or the target intercept point.

There are two NGAD programs. One for the Air Force and one for the Navy. There will be two different fighters.

Air Force called it NGAD and the Navy called its program NJAD but most people refer to it as FA-XX. I think Ward Carroll did a deep Intel analysis about it.

Well if Space Karen doesn't fuck up the satellite connection again we may get there soon.

Quantum communication is instantaneous

@@Fuck_Snowflakes You are talking about “Ēl”on Supremo Generalissimo El Moronō™?! Just checked and that is “Affirmative”, love it! I sincerely hope that the US military does not get over reliant on “SPACE KAREN” and launch competitors bring the “HEAT ON”!!

@@DamplyDoo No, no signaling can be faster than the “speed of causality”, the correlations between entanglements are “theorized” as being instantaneously linked but can not be used to communicate unfortunately. So we need some new science.

@@Mentaculus42 what if they prove the engagement and can flip the atoms in between 0 or1, this sending a binary signal

USMC does not have a 6th gen program

These are all separate programs explicitly because they did not want to repeat the disaster that was integrating all the F-35 variants (more specifically the B model though) into one program. Gave the DOD institutional PTSD.

@@jonathanpfeffer3716 Ah, gotcha!

Maybe not, but we will see. I’ll make an update video with a newer version as soon as we know more. Thanks for commenting!

There seems to be no point in having both canards and thrust vectoring. No one would suggest that the F-22 needs canards, would they?

@@pat8988 Correct. I believe the decision to give the J-20 canards was based on the concept of 2 stealth fighters merging where maneuverability would supersede the need for stealth. Which is completely wrong.

​@PilotPhotog. Canards??? You lost a lot of credibility with that one.

@@wr6392 Come on, no one knows for sure.

If these are even more stealthy, then they will be able to destroy targets before they get close enough to dogfight. However, life doesn't always go to plan, so perhaps the CCA drones will help out in that regard.

@@deansmits006 what if the enemy aircraft get more and more stealthy as well until noone sees the other before they're already merged?

You have obviously never worked fighter contracts with the Navy.

And you completely missed the sarcasm.