I have been using several FP2 devices for about a year with great results in room lighting control. However, over the last few months, I've been getting many ghost turn-ons and failure to turn off when no presence is detected with no change in room layout. I will give this a shot, as I had a terrible experience with the original FP1 devices that needed to be connected to China servers. Thanks for the coupon.
The FP2 left me so underwhelmed and frustrated. Ghosting, multiple people in a space when only one person was, a person stuck in the space with no one there. This made it very hard to find a place to use it. Every space I wanted to use it in was a disaster for the reasons above. It’s now relegated to a hallway where it works as expected most of the time. I’m going to wait on this new model and see if it suffers problems.
@@AutomateYourLife now I wonder if my older original SmartThings hub will connect to the Aqara hub. FYI, I bought the m3 hub instead hoping it connects via matter bridge to my STH-ETH-200 SmartThings hub.
Hi, so if I get it right you can't set zones like in FP2? I have open kitchen and dont want the lights on when we are in livingroom. Only way to acomlish that is set distance in fp1e?
@@AutomateYourLifeor they want to keep you in their ecosystem so you buy more products from the same brand. There in no incentive to make it compatible with thread and matter.
Yeah, you definitely don't need to sell me on presence sensors. It's just the FP2 is prohibitively expensive. This one is a bit better, at least. I ain't spendin' $75 for every room in my house!
@@chrgeorgesonmy FP2 had some initially, I marked a few interference zones or just deleted false bodies and now it seems to have learned and I don’t get phantoms. I imagine different furniture or electronics, etc may cause different experiences?
@@GabooN Yup. Myself and many, many, many others still have issues. Nearly my entire floor plan in one of my rooms is marked as an interference source. It still detects stuff in those zones that aren't there.
Great review, Brian. I just ordered one using your link and your nice coupon code. I have the FP2 and don't need multi-person detection and need to work to try to improve its accuracy. I'm anxious to try this one out. For what it's worth, I use IFTTT writing to a Google Sheet whenever there's a change to get a good idea of what's happening over time. I do this for a number of devices.
came for the review, stayed for the tips to improve my FP2. Going to check out your FP2 video now. my main issue with the FP2 is if I hug my wife, sitting on the couch, then I break away and leave the room, the sensor will lose her and put her in darkness. Do you have any tips for that please?
😳 I do not... It must be seeing you as a single entity and then treating her as being an object (part of the couch) when it sees someone leave. Wild. Tell Aqara that one. Maybe one day they can fix it
Ecobee has an expandable network of temp sensors which allows you to program which rooms are occupied this in turn determines the algorithm to regulate the AC unit. So unused rooms are "ignored" in the overall calculation if they are unoccupied....
@@OsamaRaoPK It depends on where you place them... I usually place them in shielded areas away from fans or external heat sources, like windows , electronics etc...
So just confirming because I've seen conflicting info: Aqara zigbee devices still need an Aqara hub, right? i.e. I can't use them with my generic zigbee hub dongle on Home Assistant?
Brian, Big fan of channel and of automation in general. I just saw this video and wanted to pickup the fp1e but the code isn’t working? Has it expired by chance?TIA
Hello, I also need your help, please, I also bought a Tuya Zigbee Human Presence Sensor, it is placed in the room where I also have other lights, I would also like to know how I can set the light sensor in the tuya sensor to stop turning on the light bulb when I have the other lights in the same room on, how much lux should it be set to, I mention that I have the following options, < = >, I don't know which one I should choose, smaller, larger, or equal and what a lux to write there, I hope I made myself understood, excuse my English, thank you!
I won't know the exact lux, but an easy way to tell us to look at the value of the sensor when you have the lights on to the level you want. Usually it's going to be Turn on light if Lux < X. 200-500 lumens is ok to start and then increase or decrease as you see fit
Matter just seems to be an excuse to be messy. I had wanted just this very sensor (indeed, to a prior video comment expressing that, you replied to me to watch for a future video and I think this is that video). Unfortunately, I don't want to have to buy an Aqara hub in order to integrate this sensor with SmartThings (as you indicate is necessary). The Aqara hub might be compelling if it has the IR blaster integrated, but then it would have to be equal in performance to the Logitech Harmony Hub that I use, otherwise it will be significantly less convenient. This just seems like such a waste. Functionally, it might provide much of what I want, but it requires me to buy what I don't and doesn't guarantee performance. It's all so vague.
@@AutomateYourLife Well, my reply hinged on the IR blaster function of the Aqara hub being an adequate replacement for Logitech... I see it might be competitive. You might devote a video to how...
At 3ft a 60Mhz mmwave sensor can measure a person's heartbeat with around 80% accuracy. I've seen them being marketed for fall detection for the elderly also. Just shows how accurate it is at sensing the most minor movement. They make 24Ghz and under ones but distance detection is greatly reduced.
Any idea how the AI calibration works when dealing with pets? I know you mentioned if false positives are popping up to re-run it, but I’m assuming I can’t have my cat or dog running around in the room during the calibration?
Yeah, I don't think you want a pet running around during calibration because that will confuse things. I think you could rerun it if your pet was sitting in their favorite place and that was causing present to be detected
Is Aqara hub usable as a substitute for Smartthings hub? A comparison video of these ecosystems would be great :) I'm still on a "hunt" for the ultimate hub. But I don't want HA because of the subscription they ask for remote access. What ecosystem is the best in terms of compatibility? (Besides HA)
I did a comparison of Homey and Smartthings recently, and am using Honey myself right now. Aqara is a good substitute to ST too, so I think you can look at both. But neither of those have compatibility as good as SmartThings does. Better reliability, but not compatibility. So if you're just looking to have a lot of options... Smart things is kind of second or third place to Amazon and HA
Brian, congrats on the new house! Also, love that shirt! I have the FP2 and I don't use it. It really doesn't work well for me. I had a hell of a time trying to get it set up in the Aqara app, so this ended up in my junk bin. This Zigbee version is what I had been waiting for.
Great review as usual. Hope the move is coming along. I may use this in the garage since there is an outlet in the ceiling for the garage door opener. Now I can use my PIRs sensors in another area.
You don't need the Aqara Hub if you have a Home Assistant instance with a skyconnect setup in Zigbee mode and have the Matter server intergration setup for the network, throw in a GL-S200 or a secodary skyconnect in Thread mode and that covers those Matter over Thread devices, I have multiple Aqara P2 Window and Door sensors in my setup at this time paired directly to my HA instance. I may look at buying this sensor to replace my Aoetec Motion sensor I am using just for the way it works and to be able to just plug it into the USB power I already have through a useelink powerstrip.
I had the sky connect and didn't get it connected directly through Zigbee. I'm not sure why you're talking about matter over thread in this comment because this is a purely zigbee device.
My success with it doesn't mean that it can't happen and I'm sure at some point it will become available for use with home assistant if it isn't already
P1 works directly with zigbee usb stick in home assistant, doesn’t require aqara hub. If FP1E requires aqara hub, this is a big no for me But I wonder, how this might be matter certified if it works only with aqara hub?…
I'm sure the everything presence lite is great but I haven't had a chance to test it. I also think it's very difficult for a single individual to keep up with the demands of the smart home industry so... That's how I would make my decision.
Excellent video Brian.. If this sensor were used in a ceiling mount configuration, would you recommend the sensitivity be set to highest, or still bump it down like your wall mount? Also, do you know if it will work with Govee lighting products? Thanks..
@@chicagomike2111 yeahhhh so from what I saw, sensitivity wouldn't be necessary at full levels. Also, it's likely that animals will trigger the sensor more at those levels. So I'd dial it down on sensitivity but I didn't test that! Govee will work with Amazon, so I could do it that way. :)
Awesome and its funny you mention pets. I want to do some routines for my Siberian Husky. With lights and fans.. amd if I ever get a robo-Vacuum, have it follow that shedding monster around..lol😂
I bought a bunch of Aqara stuff on prime day (including the presence sensor). One thing I'm trying to figure out - we have a wheelchair user in the house - is there gadget or something we can put on the wheelchair so we can detect that the user who is present is the wheelchair user - I'd like to have different a different automation when that person is present.
So...this is a complex automation thing. At the end of the video I talk about a series of 101 videos. That playlist has a couple of videos in it that deal with complex automations like this. Look at the hubs 101 video in that playlist. And watch for something called modes. Modes are what you want. Aqara doesn't really have the capability of doing this right now, but you can enable and disable automations based on a sensor. The sensor for knowing someone is in a wheelchair is going to be difficult and you're going to have to probably design something yourself. There's just nothing simple that will work unless they are willing to press a button
If you are using Home Assistant, look into the Bermuda integration and attach a smart tag to the wheelchair, I have just started using Bermuda, very early days for my set up but so far it is looking excellent.
@@jerseyman99 Thanks to both of you. I'm working my way up to Home Assistant, so I'll give that a try.I have a Samsun SmartThings tag on the chair already but that isn't room-to-room precise. I think I saw somewhere a Home Assistant integration to tell when a pet who had something on their collar went through a dog door, so I'll see if I can eventually work my way to that. In the meantime, I'll see if I can set it up so that we have presence and maybe some other indicator (like the wheelchair user's door is open). It's not the worst thing in the world if the automation goes off for someone other than the wheelchair user, jus not necessary.
@@AutomateYourLife yes. Also I have some thread matter devices (connected on HomePod) now running in my hubitat C-8 and they work great with hubitat automations.
@@AutomateYourLife I do have a few automations with motion sensors, that I need to turn off, when I am catsitting. One is on the kitchen, if I stand and cut up things, sometimes the sensors don't pick up movement :P
