The creators literally said that they made Penguin female because Batman's rogue gallery lacks interesting female characters. Yup. The people entrusted with a Batman show accused BATMAN of all characters of having no good female villains. Do they even know Batman???
Why penguin?? in Arkham games they turned copperhead into a female... and that's my favorite take on copperhead ever! when changing something you don't have to change an established character, why don't change poison ivy to a. Man then?? Its dumb. They changed copperhead and becuz they didn't have any agenda that was great.. Thats what im saying.. They could've used that same character..
I had a girl friend recently on Twitter ask why they couldn't just make an original character like how the 90s series made Harley Quin and the Phantasm. The funniest fucking thing I seen in a while, one of the show runners vaguely implied she was being "sexist" and it quickly became an inside joke between my friends.
Your friend has a point there but honestly I really don't mind them changing the Penguin to a woman cause the character was kind of interesting And honestly people really shouldn't be Getting that mad over this
@@kingj9664 I don't think people were "mad" more so they're just annoyed because they know what the intention is. It's to appear like they're being inclusive when you're doing the opposite by gender swapping characters instead of using pre-existing characters who are female or making their own like the examples my friend gave from the 90s series.
@@AgentNibbles I still think it's an overreaction even the annoyance to it is an overreaction because when you actually sit down and watch the TV show and get rid of your bias opinions you're realized wasn't that bad. I'm just annoyed with all the overheaded this show is getting and these people acting like it's the worst thing ever for the stupidest reason
As bad as this is, the reason is because if you rearrange the letters in Ginger, guess what it spells (A word that rhymes with a Winnie the Pooh characters that looks like a Tiger and bounces)? Now look at the side that always doing it (Lefties and Liberals)... Thats your answer.
In “The Batman” 2004 or 2007 that show featured a female cop who was a leading role and has one of the best female writing I’ve ever seen, her character is well fleshed out and she didn’t have to be woke, she didn’t have to be lesbian, she didn’t need other people to say how smart she was, and every male character wasn’t some sleeze ball to make her look good her name was elen Yen, I think but I know she was a very well written character and well designed too
Bit of a shame Batgirl kind of replaced her. Pretty sure Yen never appeared after the second season. I think she is mentioned becoming commissioner at some point. But she's largely forgotten, once Barbara comes into the picture.
Duuude, I was super looking forward to seeing the potential romance/ partnership she would have with Batman and Bruce Wayne. It was almost like they gave batman his own Lois Lane. Then they just erased her...
Renee Montoya was a character in the original show, she was just kind of a beat cop though. She showed up every once in a while but not often, she's kinda bullock's partner but not really.
@@NarcolepziThing is. Renée Montoya also worked up to detective from a beat cop. It was after the episode POV when it happened. That's the episode where Bullock, another beat cop, and Montoya were questioned by Internal Affairs about a bust gone wrong and they had to save Batman from his predicament.
1:48 J.J. Abrahams’ name on this project actually deterred me more than anything. Any IP this man touches gets scuffed. It’s not that he has a curse, because… he IS the curse.
He’s the reason Star Trek and Star Wars are ass now too it’s crazy too since Star Trek used to be super popular now barely anybody that’s under 25 knows it
the animated series had a very distinct art direction that combined incredibly expressive backgrounds drawn on black paper and fluid cel animation. it drew inspiration from german expressionism and the superman fleischer cartoon, which together both gave that version of gotham a very unique look and feel. i think this show just lacks a clear direction, and can't seem to decide between being an animated series clone or a grounded film noir, giving it this confusing aesthetic that isn't appealing, pretty, or fluid. tldr it looks like shit because i think no one knew what they wanted to do going into this, whereas the animated series had a clear vision and stuck to it
In “The Batman” 2004 or 2007 that show featured a female cop who was a leading role and has one of the best female writing I’ve ever seen, her character is well fleshed out and she didn’t have to be woke, she didn’t have to be lesbian, she didn’t need other people to say how smart she was, and every male character wasn’t some sleeze ball to make her look good I forgot her name but I know she was a very well written character and well designed too
Batman used guns for less then a year after his creation and after that the writers immediately made him stop using guns. Stop defending batman holding guns in "the comics" because you definitely haven't read any of them
Just a quick note, Montoya isn't new- in the OG series she's Harvey Bullock's partner. Originally their dynamic is that Montoya is an active supporter of Batman, while bullock is portrayed more as a somewhat corrupt cop and sees batman more of a menace vigilantee
Yeah I figured this out afterwards, it’s been a while since I’ve seen the entire animated series start to finish… but I appreciate the correction. Doesn’t change my thoughts on the character though
@@TheeOK1 not really like corrupt but he was the type of cop that broke the rules did shady stuff to get the job done. Commiting crime? No but he'd DEFINATELY be the type of guy who planted evidence to land an arrest
I think its funny because the penguin is one of the batman villains that shows how being treated poorly because of your appearance can hurt a people, on the original animated series the episode penguin starts trying to be a good person but everyone treats him poorly because of his appearance is soul crushing. A message woke people try to pass forward, and I think boomers would eat it because of how sympathetic it can be.
In a word, almost. The writing is really bad and the fact is Batman gets less screen time than the supporting cast. The voice acting is way below what we are accustomed to and they mangle the characters thoroughly. On the plus side the animation was decent and JJ was involved.... ugh, I change my word. YES, it's that bad.
The animation was honestly pretty badd at times. The worse scene is when penguin is trying to blow to police department. The animation for them escaping was immediately noticeable for me and made me replay and pause. The action sequences is where the animation is genuinely good if not passable, like the clayface fight. But the inbetween scenes can be so stiff and lack any real movement.
i didn't have a problem with him coming back cuz the dude literally had a clone army, like the biggest threat of all time wouldn't have a backup plan 😂
Well, true OG Batman actually use guns pretty regularly in his first few Batman only carried a gun . He killed people on a regular basis. And Batman is not really afraid to use guns. He just doesn’t want to kill anybody with one or use one against individual person.
@@seanmarley3598that’s only true if the characters have poor writing and aren’t memorable Remember Harley Quinn was a new character created for the 90s series
@@seanmarley3598Even then, it's racist as fuck. How about we race swap a black character because the audience doesn't care much about them? Except Hollywood won't do that because they're pandering to anyone with a darker skin.
I knew this show was going to be bad the moment they mentioned Bruce Timm was going to be one of the lead creatives on it. If nobody who has great respect and understanding of Batman isn't involved in one of his Batman projects, expect shit; just look at Bruce Timm's adaptation of The Killing Joke. Also, he and another one of the creative leads said how "Batman lacks GOOD VILLAINS and there weren't enough FEMALE villains." No wonder Warner Bros. sold this mess to Amazon...
@@SSJAlterMate you're not a batman fan 😛 what is it with you fellas and your insistence to watch adaptation of shows you don't like and don't agree with for some reason? You could just make your own cynical parody of Batman without spitting at the older generation
@@coachtali5151 your either mentally disabled or just dumber then rocks because this show is not good, a “Batman” show where Batman is not acting like Batman I fear what shows you call amazing
I am tired of the politically motivated changes to already established characters and the fact that modern day trash is inserted into the golden or silver age of comic stories. Like the changes to The Penguin and making NOT Harley Quinn who has the same name as Harleen Quinzel's alter ego when she is WITH THE Joker. And why did they make Alfred Pennyworth, THE British Special Intelligence member, a clumsy fat man who is made fun of by everyone? Why are there so many things wrong with this show? And why is Jar Jar Abrams at BAD REBOOT on this probei? Why is Bruce Timm not working with Paul Dini and others who worked on the DCAU shows back in the day? You know, the very writers who made DCAU and Batman the way those properties in media are today? I can't take this seriously, since they all call us racist and other labels for asking these exact legitimate questions.
@@seanmarley3598no, someone who genuinely looks like he used to be in British Army and to put a bit of respect on his name. He partly trained Batman ffs. But oh what am I saying, even Batman doesnt get any respect here so why should Alfred?
@@ad1kher0gaming71 Was Alfred even a trained British begin with? The only time i remember was Live action version where Alfred worked for Queen of England.
it’s really so depressing i had the chance to meet conroy as a kid and missed out not realizing the impact he had on my life and now that opportunity is lost forever. fly high bats.
This show stands as the perfect example of what happens when writers and creators lack nuance and aren't made to operate around certain restrictions. Bruce Timm has the creativity, but he's always needed others to hold him back from going over the top, people like Paul Dini and back in the 90s broadcast and standards. Timm doesn't have the nuance to keep things held back, even several times in past interviews expressing his frustration in not being able to make the characters exactly how he wanted, which ultimately ended up being a good thing. Paul Dini deserves way more credit in making BTAS as good as not was, but Bruce Timm gets all the credit.
@@MrOrcshaman FYI this is also the same Bruce Timm that made Batman have that infamous scene with Barbara in the Killing Joke. This show isn't even the first disaster he has had with Batman when Paul Dini wasn't in the writer's booth.
Because Disney and Netflix have been slowly manipulating young people into liking this kind of crap for over 10 years and they are becoming the new market.
@@FrozenPyro06 I wouldn’t have even minded if the A plot was a story worth telling. Nothing happened, no arc for anybody, no interesting dynamic between characters, nobody mattered towards any central theme or plot. All a big nothing
Yep. Even then, Bruce time apparently had different designs in mind before trying to keep the art relatively comic book accurate. Mans has nothing but art to his name, seems like the inverse of Butch Hartman, not that JJ Abrams helped any.
Frankly.... I find this show more mediocre than anything. They didn't want to just stick to Golden Age Batman, just stole some of the aesthetics & delivered a bland elseworld. It's a shame because Golden Age Batman could have given a familar yet new experience !
exactly. well said. They could've used the Mad Monk, Cavalier (he's kinda lame but any character can work with good writing) and some other great golden age characters. They used catwoman but I want to see her ORIGINAL design, that's my favorite. Look it up.
I'll say that I agree with you on a number of points, but you're wrong about Clayface. The reason that this Clayface is so divorced from the BTAS Clayface is because they're different comic book characters. That is actually a very faithful adaptation of the original Basil Karlo Clayface.
In case you were wondering, the reason why Alfred is a clumsy fat man is because that's how he was in the comics. He used to be fat, and clumsy, but then there was a story where to went to resort on vacation, and spent his time there working out, and returned skinny and clumsy. Alfred was intended to be a comic relief character, who often bumbled his way into trouble, and would get out of it normally through dumb luck. For a look at the original version of Alfred who inspired this show's version, check out Batman issue 10. The reason why made him skinny is because the Batman characters were adapted into a film serial, and they got a skinny man to play Alfred there, and they wanted to make the comic Alfred match what was going on in the big screen. Neat, eh?
Not quite exactly. Yes. Alfred was first introduced in Batman #16 (April *1944*), by writer Don Cameron and artist Bob Kane, in which he had an overweight and clean-shaven appearance. However, he was originally created by writers Victor McLeod, Leslie Swabacker, and Harry Fraserof for the Batman (*1943*) serial, in which he was played by English character actor William Austin. The comic's story was published prior to the serial's release, regardless, DC editors wanted the comic Alfred to resemble his cinematic counterpart, so in Detective Comics #83 (January 1944), Alfred vacationed at a health resort, where he slimmed down and grew a mustache.
I had my hopes up with Bruce Timm involved. Then I heard JJ Abrams. My expectations went down the drain. That's what now? 3 franchises he destroyed? Jesus christ this series is so ass. No wonder they couldn't put this on TV, it's horrible. First fucking Batman series in over a DECADE and this is what we get. I'm good watching the Batman 2004 and BTAS. Screw this entire show.
If this was a batgirl-centric series where the concept is batman beyond the detective female goes ask people in the daytime and at night the detective becomes a batgirl, and so on.
This reminds of cartoons from the early 2000s and they took classic characters and tried to make them hip like that Looney tunes show where they had iron man suits. I feels that same kind of low quality
@@rainingtacos7529 the Harley Quinn show is too feminist for me, but no I do not recommend you watch the Batman show either if you’re a long time fan of the Batman animated series.
Love how they attack men for liking women and they can never have men help. Yet they have women needing other women and lusting after other women. Sick of the double standard. These people are supposedly are against this type of behavior and consistently do it again and again.
All this series did was show me that people forgot that all the worst things from BTAS were what Bruce Timm championed and all the good stuff from the show had little do with him Never forget that Bruce Timm is the one that has a hard on for the Bruce/Barbara relationship, and had her get pregnant with Bruce's kid while she was dating Dick Grayson in the BTAS canon (it was in the canon follow up comics) Either Bruce Timm really wants to bang one of his co-workers' daughter or it's a fetish he has, cause he's obsessed with it BTAS should be remembered as a staple of the character's history, but Bruce Timm should not be given any type of creative control This is the 3rd time people have made that mistake, maybe this time they'll learn from it Also, quick edit that I forgot to mention, Renee Montoya isn't new to this series and is unironically a pretty solid character within the comics
21:34 You overlooked the fact that Catwoman was cuffed to a table leg with a clay pot on it. She could have knocked the table over and escaped at any time.
I enjoyed the Gentleman Ghost, Clayface, carnival and Onomatopoeia episodes. But the quality isn’t consistent between each show. The Penguin change was utterly pointless, as was making Harley Quinn some Mad Hatter/Hugo Strange knockoff that brainwashes her billionaire clients out of some vague disdain for capitalism. Also, she’s Hawaiian and obese for some reason. But the worst, by far, is how Two-Face was handled. Harvey Dent is played as a one-dimensional misogynist for most of the show, until the last few episodes where he suddenly becomes the “White Knight” for a scant few seconds until he is disfigured by a mobster IN THE BATHROOM. Yeah, that’s right. Harvey’s tragic disfigurement doesn’t even happen when Batman is around. Dude gets his face melted by a goon on the john. And don’t even get me started on how terrible his appearance is in contrast to BTAS, TDK or even that Gotham Knights show that flopped.
The Long Halloween movie handled it the best imo, in that movie he is manipulated into going crazy, he already had his tick with the coin but being framed for murder and disfigured pushed him over the edge. I agree Harvey deserved better there's no tragedy for him in this show, he's Two-Face for a few days gets arrested and then dies. As for Harley Quinn making her Bruce's psychologist was fine, making her date another woman is fine, making her work with the police is fine, but making her Harley Quinn without the Joker is stupid, her tragedy is the abusive relationship she has with him. Female Penguin is ok, it's pointless but it works This show is so far OK, and I think it can get better if they improve their writing and actually let these actors do their lines in the same room.
@@miguelzurita3216 About Harvey's tragedy, "Eye Of the Beholder" was the first iteration to do it in more details and it was fine, very good Two-Face comic but kinda rushed on the Dent side. Then you have BTAS AND Long halloween which build-up the assassination attempt juuuust right and clue you in that there's something wrong with Harv's temper despite him being an upstanding and Justice-driven attorney... The way THIS show handles it though ? Trash...
I think my main problem is that it’s not enough to stand out from previous Batman shows. I also agree that they kinda make Batman a bumbling mess, he struggles in fights that he shouldn’t, he acts like some fucking tsundere when interacting with Alfred💀, and it seems like he was always last to figure out something
@@thelosersclub5641 yes because everyone wants to watch a batman show where he's not batman yet, what a joke, in the recent batman movie he was also new to the whole batman thing yet was smart and capable of fighting criminals, why would he even start being batman if he's not intelligent or capable of winning a single fight, how are we supposed to feel something when he loses like when bane broke his back if he stood emotionless like a damn corpse when being beaten by a child
Clayface episode: Why couldn’t the actress get off the chopping table after one hand was untied? She just lay there whining about not wanting to die, but didn’t move until her other hand was untied. Little things like that can ruin a series.
I think what you don’t understand is this is an adaptation of 20-40s comics, if course there are a few modern changes because 20-40s media is very dated, but most of the modern characters were established in the 80s and 90s. Mr freeze and clayface especially were way different before the animated series
@OfficialCJSoprano oh yeah definitely its one of the 6 episodes thats just barbara or renee being boring for 18 minutes and batman showing up for a mid fight at the end
As a person that finds the show descent I can say the concept is cool and I like that Batman is more of a detective than anything else so yea it it’s mid but it can be better.
I liked certain aspects of the show like how they portrayed batman himself as well as some of the episodes and bullock and his partner were funny villains
I'd like to point out that it's common for voice actors to record their lines seperately when working on animation, anime and cartoons. Recording alone in a booth is typically how it goes. Not all voice actors know each other, nor are they expected to. Press conferences and conventions tend to be how and when they first meet, unless they're regular employees at voice-acting guilds or English dubbing companies. Yes, the voice acting is a downgrade, but recording their lines separately doesn't have anything to do with that.
@@AidenS-f5z Its quality is debatable, considering it's actually the actor and the director's job to both get the best and most appropriate lines for each scene, but you're missing the point. Solo recordings are more common across the industry. It's not the issue here. The entire show isn't gonna get fixed by putting two people in a booth every time they need to get some lines.
The very first time I heard batman's voice in this show, I thought to myself "Omg, will I be the only one who's gonna hate all this?"...turns out, I am not. Something told me this show is gonna be ass...glad to know someone else thinks that.
Nope. Kevin Conroy was gay and a a loud and proud member of the LGBTQ+ Sadly not even he cares if this series continues to butcher batman. He didn't really care when he signed up for suicide squad butchering his legacy so why would he care now?
@@loganjohnson7441 Nah, Kevin would have given this a standing ovation. Kevin Conroy was not only gay but an enthusiastic member of the LGBTQ+ if he supported suicide squad (which butchered his legacy and Batman's image) what makes you think he'd be upset by any of this?
Actually, with the no enter order, it was the right decision. They aren't trained for dealing with fire nor are they wearing the appropriate equipment to sustain a proper search for the kids. More lives would've been lost had he gave the order to enter
Well there should have been a call to the firefighters instead of the police force, but no. If 50 kids had died and the police stood idly by… there would be an out roar by citizens if that happened in real life. Looked like no fire fighters showed up even afterwards, so they are the only public servants that are present. They swear to serve and protect, lucky for Gordon it turned out fine. But if it didn’t, that’s a bad call. It’s all situational
In “The Batman” 2004 or 2007 that show featured a female cop who was a leading role and has one of the best female writing I’ve ever seen, her character is well fleshed out and she didn’t have to be woke, she didn’t have to be lesbian, she didn’t need other people to say how smart she was, and every male character wasn’t some sleeze ball to make her look good I forgot her name but I know she was a very well written character and well designed too
@@kyoguro_rengoku i think I remember her but I was small that time Edit: a month ago I watch Batman: the return of the knight and the Robin is a strong dependable female (forgor her name) and they should have taken inspiration from that movie and not do this crap right here
The gloves he wears is suppose to be a homage to Batman's first appearance as well as his whole suit, they only made the gloves black here and not purple. It's the same with Alfred, in his first appearance, he was a chubby Englishman and Batman using a gun
Yea but all that was changed he been set in stone for decades now they shouldn’t have changed what was know and if they wanted to pay homage to the old comics they could have done it better like Bruce had 2 butlers or something and decides to get rid of one or they have a family emergency and then you can show it’s old school Alfred from the comics. To just have newer thinner Alfred come up escorting the old one out obviously he wouldn’t be named Alfred they can call him jeeves or something
I agree with a lot of the criticism especially with the lesbians that don't need no man being the main characters but I think the actor who played Batman did good and he was easily the best part of the show (the only good thing of the show). The problem with that is that he barely got any airtime...Bad writing is the biggest reason this show sucked despite the good depiction of the Batman character..
The reason that we have Batman animated series is because the popularity of Tim Burton Batman I could sum up this show in one word “inferior“ Bruce Tim gets too much credit. He’s just the guy who came up with a cool designs he’s not that good of a writer The guy that actually was the soul of the original Batman the animated series was Paul Dini. He’s the guy who came up with reworking most of the villains that are iconic to this day like Mr. freeze. And JJ Abrams is not someone you look to and think quality His whole gimmick is “mystery boxes” And he can’t really create anything original he usually repurpose things badly And the guy who did the Batman movie I don’t see anything in the show that looks like it’s from him The thing they did with nocturna is really weird. They gave her the poison ivy treatment from the suicide squad game. They took a sexy femme fetal vampire character and turned her into a child and gave her weird undertones. Like look up the character She is dark and beautiful and alluring. Yeah, also the animation is lazy and it sucks They say this is the show they wanted to make and there’s 90s, but I don’t believe them. The only thing I’ll say is good about the show is the intro and the theme song.
I am actually fine with Batman using guns in this context. That's actually in line with what the show promoted itself, as an adaptation of the original Batman in Detective comics, when he actually used guns before a lot of his lore was fleshed out further.
17:50 idk, I think anyone including the character of Bruce Wayne wouldn’t take someone blatantly disrespecting their parent who was murdered too lightly. I know the show isn’t too good but I think you could cut it a bit of slack
@@kazekamiha but to go out of your way and (i imagine) look for stuff that will make you upset even if youre obj wrong *you are and just come off as sexist adjscent* youll nevr be happy
@@SSJAlter Oh no, I have plenty of other things to play and watch. It's just annoying to see disappointing shit when animated series were much better 20-30 years ago. Also; I'm not wrong. You're just bitter you're shit stinks.
44:02 Many people don't know this, but batman actually started out killing. That's the only defense i have for this show and i agree with everything else you say.
The series is apparently set in the 1940s and meant to harken to the noir detective comics period where Batman did use guns when he debut, so they had him use a gun on purpose
I watched a clip of the show this morning. The writing was pretty profoundly unimpressive and the action didn't do anything to back it up. There was a really well animated shot of a goon getting knocked unconscious that reminded me of '90s Disney, but otherwise completely skippable
Yeah the opening sequence is the only impressive segment of Batman… and it’s the same one they used for promotion. Marketing department knows what they’re doing
@@No-kw9wu being fr its not that he inherantly sucks im just so tired of him being front and center and other bat villians being ignored fully (give me a good bane)
@@No-kw9wuNo Joker is highly overrated, it's great and all that Joker has been crafted to be a sympathetic villain and allegory for society, but making him the literal anti-batman is ridiculous and there really is no valid reason why Batman would let him live, it would be like letting SS death squads live in WW2 when you know what they're gonna do first opportunity 😛
Hey, I watched the entire series twice, I really don’t think it’s that bad. Were there some things I didn’t like about the show? Sure. I thought the animation wasn’t the best, I think they could’ve made better use of the time. The show takes place 1930s to 1940s., but all in all I thought it was pretty decent. Not perfect, but not bad
Excellent analysis of this show. I love Batman. This is not Batman. Everything you said is exactly what I was thinking when I watched this trash pile burn. Thanks!
Montoya, the lady cop isn't a new character, she just wasn't overused before. She was in the original cartoon as well and they managed to make her competent and likeable without stealing the show from the titular character.
From what I've seen I was kind of let down by the show though I am interested in what future seasons will do. First seasons are typically the roughest. I think what I am let down by is that the show was marketed as Batman in the 1940s. I love vintage comic books from the 40s, 50s, and 60s. It's very clear that the creatives behind it know their Golden Age Batman. Alfred being fat, rather than the typical skinny Alfred everyone is familiar with, actually is how Alfred first appeared. The first couple years Alfred was around the comics he was a fat, bumbling butler used more as comic relief. He also was never a father figure to Batman. I like the call back to Alfred's original look and like that they kept the father figure aspect though I was kind of interested in seeing a Alfred that wasn't a father figure to Batman. I liked Clayface. It was a call back to how Clayface originally appeared in the comics. I was excited to see a Clayface being taken more in the original actor getting revenge route. I do like the Clayface from BTAS way more though that Clayface is hard to top. That Clayface was more of an amalgamation of three different Clayface's: The actor angle was taken from the original Basil Karlo, shape shifting came from Matt Hagan, and his skin condition was taken from Preston Payne. I love how Catwoman had her classic purple costume and I hope the orphan kid that is clearly meant to be Dick Grayson (the red sweater and green pants was his civilian outfit in the 1940 comics) comes back to be Robin. Deadshot's design was actually inspired by Deadshot's first appearance. Batman using a gun was also a reference to his first few appearances. He would actually use it to kill though. There was a lot of unnecessary changes though. Harley Quinn is the most major one. I am really tired of constantly taking her away from the Joker and, in this case, scrubbing away her history with the Joker. It takes away Harley's depth as a character and an essential part of her character. It'd be like taking away the death of Batman's parents or taking away Krypton from Superman. I'm happy at least it wasn't the Harley we've been bombarded with post-New 52. Harley has been Harley basically in name only since the New 52 started though. Harvey Dent being a jerk before becoming Two-Face was a stupid change that took depth away from him. I actually kinda liked Penguin as a woman though still disappointed by the change. Since a big part of this show was to have more a 1940s feel to it, I was hoping for more goofy looking, penguin looking Penguin. I don't know I'm mixed about the show. I was excited to see the classic Golden Age designs though disappointed that with characters like the Penguin and Two-Face they decided to deviate. And often they just killed off villains.
This was really informative, I appreciate the comment! Something I forgot to add in the video was the lack of use for 1940s Gotham. The only thing that really alludes to the time period is the old TVs that they sometimes show… other than that, it might as well be set in modern day. I hope they utilize that more later on. But Im definitely not dismissing the show entirely, I am excited to see what they do from here
@@Narcolepzi No problem! There are some good websites out there that house scans of old vintage comics. I recommend reading a lot of the stuff from the 40's. Detective Comics #27 to #38 cover solo Batman up to Robin (Robin was basically there from the beginning). Once Robin is introduced Joker, Catwoman, Clayface, Scarecrow, Penguin, and Two-Face all start popping up and the Batman comics really start getting on a roll. Don't feel like you need to read them in order or anything though. They are self contained. I agree with not feeling the 40s. BTAS felt more like the 40s. I wonder if the animation wasn't digital, but cell painted like the original one would make a different. That new TV animation gloss always takes me out of it. I started rewatching. Didn't realize Lois Lane and Jimmy Olsen in a press conference, the voodoo guy is actually a character from Constantine, and one of the circus freaks is definitely Killer Croc.
I used to be such a rightoid that I’d just nod and agree. But really it isn’t that bad. But everyone is always so quick to break their arms jerking off JJ Abrams that they forget he ruined practically every well established series he was part of
Your video is my first exposure to the series, I haven't even seen any reviews (I didn't grow up with 90's series 😊) & to me this seems like it's supposed be a parody that would be played in like an updated adult version of Animaniacs or something like how they did with Harvey Birdman or Scooby-Doo...even the animation doesn't carry the same literal "weight" as before, it feels floaty 😕
How this show is getting 5 stars or even 4 from critics everywhere I have no clue It is actually such a jumbled mess, it is insane. The audacity some people must have to say that it isn't "woke" either is just crazy I saw one dude saying how they loved how they went out of their way to not push DE I and I just...don't man...like I don't understanddd Also your editing is phenomenal, great work! :D
The reason the magic dude seems a lot like the shadow man from princess and the frog is that they both draw inspirations from Baron Samedi, a dude from Voodoo mythology.
"Treat the 'staff' like 'people' " is basically inherently implying they are not people but one can learn to pretend as if they are. Writers are good: at telling us their own beliefs. Not to mention Bruce tended to treat Alfred as family member, not worker.
@@NarcolepziHarvey dies immediately the children in the building firebug die Selina dies Barbara dies Harley gets away with everything clayface gets away with everything penguin gets away with everything
12:02 the original Batman animated series did this too, but it was because Batman was the person while Bruce Wayne was the mask and it was supposed to represent that this lazily does it and throws it in half assed
Yes and no, in BTAS he only spoke like Batman when he had the mask on. He never forced his voice to be dark and gargly as Bruce Wayne when it's just him and Alfred. The new show made him look mentally disturbed
@@Narcolepzidude this version of Bruce was obviously affected differently because most Batmen don’t burst into their Alfred room that night and say “They all have to pay” the way he did and that’s fucking rad. Y’all see something interesting like Batman actually being seen as crazy which he is in many points in the comics
@@NarcolepziOk maybe it’s been a minute since you actually watched the show, but there are SEVERAL scenes in BTAS where he does the exact thing you just described.
