The New Concave/Shape I Helped Design (8.25 Easy Rider) 

This man is hands down my favorite person to watch skate. I got back into skating in 2020 and binged watched all your videos. Thank you for the all madness, and thank you for all you have done for skaters, and skateboaring.

Glad you’re still around. RU-vid sucks without you

I’m really appreciating these videos since you posted the “I’m done” video. They feel much more natural and less forced and you look like you’re having fun and doing content because you want to. Also nice to know these videos are being done because you want to do them. I look forward to more videos whether or not we have to wait a long time for them. Keep doing what’s comfortable and fun for you :)

I just love when Ben Degros posts a video after a long day of work this guy is just so wholesome & uplifting

You've helped demystify drywall... and now your helping me demystify board shapes. You sir, are a treasure. Thanks for your wisdom.

I always appreciate your speaking, articulation and the way you break up stuff as you explain things. It's definitely never too much talking. You're a really inspiring person and skater

It’s midnight where I am, and I need to go to bed. I will be watching this in the morning. Thanks for all these great videos you’ve been making recently.

Been watching you for years even before I ever picked up a board, love this channel

Man, I'm a big time fan of the R1, and I've tested previous mellow presses like the Reazy-C and Low Pros, and while they were perfectly fine, this really looks a lot more functional (at least to my own tastes). Great work. Been hyped on what you do for a number of years, and I've been friends with Jim for several years (and a fan of his since the Sick Boys) so seeing the two of you collaborate just makes complete sense in my head. I mean, of course you two would eventually work together in skateboarding! Haha... for real, love to see it. Looking forward to stepping on it! All the best, Ben!

I very much appreciate the technical talk where you discuss the physics and implications of different design choices

Full SE is by far my favorite deck shape and dimensions, So I’m definitely gonna try this!

I just bought the anti hero 8.38 of this. Tactics says it’s a 14.5 wheelbase and another review of these said the real version had steeper kicks. If that’s the case, I think I may have found my “Goldilocks” board. Super hyped and love the content. That’s for coming back!

The direct contact thing makes total sense, it’s like kickfliping inside a limeted path vs free access to the nose!

Always great content and skating. Would love to try the shape in 8.38 if this comes out. Thank you Ben!

Hey Ben, just wanted to share how much I love the Easy Rider anti-hero board shape, especially as a 41-year-old. It makes riding a skateboard so much better. Love that pop and quick board response are game-changers, especially for us older skaters.

Love it how you literally got thiebaud to make you a board based specifically to match your latest truck madness. Salute 🫡

Hey bud, just bought the deck as it's available in Europe now :D Got a nice looking purple top ply. Immediately felt comfortable - reminded me of a late 90's deck, without the gnarly Popwar type kicks. Super comfortable. Looking forward to riding it at the park and trying slides on it - the finish seems textured. might help it not stick. Thanks for giving so much of yourself to the skate community - both in time, ideas and everything else.

I’ve always wondered why the nose was steeper than the tail in a lot of boards, this makes so much sense!

I hope the make also a twintail in this concave. Prefer flatter boards, just feels more natural and longer tails also as i like standard thunder&ventures for their feel probably because i am taller but don't like wide boards. Great to see these board being produced ! Thanks Ben you are doing great.

Its finally out. Congratulations. And you can tell your having more fun making content only when you have something you really want to say. You can talk tech to me all day but the likly hood of me getting my hands on one is like 0 with my local skate shop. Im in rural Victoria Australia and they are hardly open these days. Its hard to support your local skate shop when they keep the wiredist hrs as it too me 3 weeks of just showing up in operating hrs to find them open last time i had to pick up stuff. Authentic, chill, happy, having fun. Good to see.

I love the in depth explanation of the board. The board flips way faster compared to some of your older videos. To me this board would feel like a broken in one but new pop feel. I can't wait to try the 8.5".

I can’t wait to try this board. I have been really liking a shape that workshop/habitat makes called the agile 8. I consider it to have a steeper kick and would like to ride a board that Ben has broken down with such depth and detail to compare. Great job. Love your videos. Thank you Ben:)

I like the board, especially the fingers of flat and the fact that you can make it symetrical just by sanding it's nose a little bit. It's also quite opposite from what I usually ride (Santa Cruz On Venture v-hollow lows) and I'm about 6.1 foot tall. I'll get that Anti-hero 14.5 and sand down the nose to turn it into twin tail board. I noticed that many pros who ride Thunders or Ventures (Shane, P Rod, Yuto,...) like 14 inch wheelbase but such short wheelbase just makes wheelbase on other trucks much shorter. Primitive, Girl and April boards are mostly coming with 14 inch wheelbase at 8.25. Btw looking forward to his review of Andy Anderson's latest symmetrical board 😂

You gotta try the new spitfire wheels at that park, a video would be awesome , with the new deck shape you’re working on. And Venture low. I wanna have the same setup you ride

Need to try the 8.5 one. I do love the 8.5 true fit mold decks with the 13.75 wb, so going back on 14.25 will probobly feel a bit heavy in the beginning! I always feelt the concaves can be a bit "sharp" on DLX decks so I always look for the mellower boards. This looks great! Also, that bs 360 on the hip was really nice!!

Ben you rascal! 😆 lol love how you convinced them basically to make your pro model! 💕👏👍 PS- great session you were landing evvvvverything!

I wish BBS made more 8.38’s with a 14.25 wheelbase. Their normal 14.5 feels way too clunky especially with ventures.

You know it already, adding couple of washers to each wheel will make trucks that tiny bit wider, as you’d prefer it with your 8.125 setup.

Congrats on the pro board Ben! :) Do a twin tip shape next. I love the Ishod's but Real needs a different option for a twin shape.

Hey Ben! Railside is just nearby where I live. It was awesome to see you there on RU-vid. You should come back out now that its all smooth. Its really fast now. New additions on here as well.

I’m 6”4 but I deff will be trying this out! Usually ride only dlx 8.5-8.75 14.38-14.62 WB and I’ve been wanting to step down, I’m getting too old and too many injuries to have the will power to get those things off the ground every trick, every session. Skating was hard enough already for 20 years! Excited to grab one of these. Thank you Ben

I'm riding the Bobhy Worrest (Ishod) 8.3 Slick Twin Tail right now and love it. Got it right before I knew your board came out. I've always loved the feel of Anti Hero also, and if you're saying it's the same template as the Ishod, that might just be my next ride 🙌

I just seen this board at my local skateshop and almost bought it cuz i went back down to 8.25 from 8.38. If its there next month ill try it. Awesome that you helped mold it!!

this is why ive always leaned towards toy machine decks, really love their mellow concave.

it's comforting that you're making vids.

The new Deck sounds pretty decent. I been leaning towards mellower boards. I look forward to trying one 🤙

lately ive been redrilling the truck holes on the tail of my 8.25s to make it a 13.75 wb and then i skate the board backwards. (So the og nose is now my tail) idk, i just like more blunt tails for pop & longevity but tapered pointy, flatter noses for kickflips and nose stall stuff. & shorter WBs r preferred on anything above an 8. Also i’ll only do this with logo decks so the board doesnt look upsidedown. Ive been rockin this combo with thunders with riser pads. Yes im aware this is some mad scientist nerdery stuff lol

went from the 8.5 blue eagle to the 8.25 real. man that tail is no joke. with ventures its not so bad but the first hour of the session was rough. still getting adjusted to moving my foot to where I need it to be vs being on autopilot. I am really enjoying the nose though

Just got one and can’t wait to try it out!

This makes so much sense I can’t wait to try these !

you have one of the coolest jobs in the world

Congrats Ben I love all the thought that went into every aspect of the shape. I ride an FA which I like a lot but the nose is sooo much steeper than the tail and of course pops totally different as a result. Will def have a look at the Easy Rider shape next go around

The Canadian really comes out when talking to a fellow Canadian. The accent just flows right out 😂

Nice to see you on board!!

Park looks incredible. The design. The vibes

Great vid! Super happy to see you posting!

that park looks beast

I hope that everyone has an amazing 2024 and safe travels and skateboarding throughout the years. 🍀♾️❤️‍🔥

Thank you Ben for mellowing concaves. I'd love to see an 18 or 17 degree tail kick.

Ben you’re the coolest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Need to try that out!

All the specs talk make sense. That spoon thing I believe is what was labelled as 'Full concave' when I was riding the Cliche Europe deck (dwindle). It made nose and tail slides much more promising in length. I've been using 14''wb8.25'' Skatemental with 8.5inch regular Thunders and I like it a lot. So that's what's where I'd integrate this deck into. All the stuff I know how to do - looks better on this kind of setup. Though it is a bit difficult to learn new stuff on such a steep angled deck. Like I always have something mellow and low for learning stuff and then something steep like this for making it look better.

i feel like you came to this conclusion of a flatter board from skating so many Controled wood decks. iykyk. I always wished they made that shape on better wood. Thx Ben (=

Ben doing more for skateboarding than any other non sponsored skater…..💪🏻

As someone that loves to ride flatter old school boards this is a board i definitely need to pick up

killing it 🔥❤

ur skating is looking strong neighbor. very impressive.

I’m so stoked you got to work with Deluxe, so rad! I’m very unlikely to switch from my 8.125 Flip Tom Penny cheech and Chong with indie 139s and f4 52mm classics, I prefer to stick to one thing and enjoy it, but maybe one day I can try this shape.

Can’t wait to try the new concaves. Wouldn’t mind that 8.25 with a 14.25 wb, but I think the 14 will be great. For me, a Manderson shape with the mellow concave would be heaven!!!

I’ll have to try a deck, I’ve been only skating twin boards as of recent but I’ll give it a try. I’m loving the 8.5 Foy deathwish twin rn

13:59 15:12 16:32 16:50 That's all Ben's got to say about that deck. Wooooooo get some.

I wish the 8.5 had the same length and wheelbase as the 8.25. I had to buy new trucks so I could get that sweet 14 inch wheelbase for Ventures. I ride 6.1s on 8.5 and I got 5.8 Kader cast hollows for the 8.25...yeah I'm one of those weirdos that likes my trucks slightly wider than the deck.

That 8,25 deck would be nice in 8,125 width. Primitive and Chocolate have similiar shapes in 8,25 width but i dont think anyone makes short wb deck with long nose and tail in 8,125.

I can’t wait to try it. My last couple boards have been Chocolate 8.25” Shape G052 and I’ve been loving them. Had a very similar Metal Fred Gall before that. It will be nice to try these out when they drop. Couldn’t find them on Tactics or Skate Warehouse yet.

Perfect place to test wheels on now you have a board/truck set up on lock. With the controlled area and less ideal surfaces would be valuable content for the community to try all the Filmer and now park/street mixed use wheels flooding the market. Find the ideal wheel for that set up

Excited to try this one!

Great job Ben

Dude that is exactly how I feel about concave! Flatter is better. I hope I get a chance to pick one up

I like a long tail, when I'm skating wheels 54mm and up. I ride ''WKND'' decks a lot, because of the mellow concave/ and dimensions. PS STIX mostly makes those WKND decks, They have short tails, I can only skate them with 52mm wheels and Indy mids. Any other way i set them up I cant skate those decks. So I started looking for longer tails. I'm riding some Venture 6.1s with a Welcome Nora deck 8.7 shaped with a square tail, BBS wood. with some 54mm Bones STF 99a wheels, and those rations are helping for this set up of mine. the wheelbase is 14.5 and I thought the Ventures would make the wheelbase to wide for me, but It feels so nice compared to when I tried to set the same deck up with some Indy 159s. Has to be the Wheelbase being extended compared to when I had the Indy's in making the wheelbase go in.

Exactly what SantaCruz is doing with TomAsta at the moment. Shrinking twin tips in 8,25 and 8,50 to 14" wheelbase I always said that the sweetspot is a medium concave on an 8.125-8.25" width with 14" wheelbase 31.45 long

A lot of it sounds pretty good to me. I like the fuller shapes, the mellower concave and the symmetrically angled nose and tail as well as the longish tail. The width and wheel base are on the smaller size for me. I’ve been riding a pretty mellow 8.5/14.5 Toy Machine lately on V-Hollows and that has felt very nice and dare I say sounds not too unlike this in terms mellowness, fuller shape and a longer tail.

Nice vid Ben, with some fun skating at the end. Well done getting that back 3 and nollie big heel(?) at the end. Also dig the board talk. Been watching Tom Asta's recent vids about changing up his board size/set-up too. I keep an 8.0 and 8.25 set-up going (with a sometimes back-up 8.38) but as a shorter old guy I prefer shorter deck length and shorter wb. I have been riding a few Snata Cruz Fabi Delfino shapes (8.25 x 31.6 x14wb) and quite digging those. Also had a Primitive 8.25 x 31.9 x 14wb which went really well too until it got a big soggy after a few months and rainy sessions. Def find longer decks and wb a weird challenge (though also my skating is super ave/low level so there's that too 😂) Anyway, keep up the fun vids and skate equipment breakdowns

I would like to see a board series that standardizes the measurements for wheelbase; i.e. you select Indy, Thunder, Venture, Ace and you get the mold that makes your wheelbase 14.25 using those trucks. Otherwise, everything else is the same. From a production standpoint, it’s probably more costly, but I think it would allow for more minor tweaks with the setup (height, concave preference).

for sure going to try this out, mellow decks are my preference and is my only real complaint when trying deluxe molds

Imo , 14 WB with indy mids feels very good 🙏

Love when you upload

Excited to try the 8.5 when it hits shops

Sounds perfect. I'm definitely going to have to try one.

I prefer twin tail with mellow or not super steep nose and tail. That looks like an ideal shape. Atm ace and thunder are my prefered. Idys do seem not as polished as ace and super squeeky. But need to give venture a true try. Tried for a a small sess and reminded me of thunders.

As a 5'3" dude that just skated my first 13" wheelbase board after 7 years of 14's and 14.25's_I don't ever wanna skate anything else!!!!!

Ben do a review on the new SFF4 93A and compare it to the Dragon 93A!

Fun to hear that the anti-hero 8.38 have that shape too, i will go for the 8.25 i think beacause of hips ache and i just cut venture 8.5 to 8.25. I will probably try the Anti-Hero too because i like a 14.5 on indy and even on Venture high cast 5.8. When the kick have nice feel the 360 flip are not that hard on long wheelbase.

Good stuff! I'm 5'7", short legs, and have been on standard Venture lows. Very curious to try out the 8.25.

Hopefully the Deluxe shop website will start carrying these decks too.

can't wait to find one of these

Never seen you @ railside B4. The park is getting a resurfacing 😮🔥. I can't get any good speed and keep flowing in that bowl. Find the radius too large and the surface too rough. I go for that smallest rail and hubba!

I use thunder hollow lights 149 with 52mm wheels (down to 48mm sometimes if worn down) but I ride my boards backwards like Ryan Descenzo, so I think I should be fine :)

When I get this board, I'm going to throw it on some forged Indy 144s I think. This might be the setup I finally get switch tre on. Fingers crossed!

That would be a good park to review the new 93 spitfires at.

easy rider eh u sold me with that title

For a shorter person at 5'7, I wish the shape was on 8.125 with a 31.7 length. The concave feels like a good change too.

I hope they would make mellower tail & nose with the true fit molds especially the 8.06 width.

I like the feeling underfoot and manageability of flatter boards, but I like the stiffness/rigidity of steeper kicks/concave. I have too many boards.

As always cool to watch

Would love an 8.125 shape of that concave but with 7” nose and 6.6” tail 😋😋

So you made the CCS logo deck, but with a quarter inch shorter wheel base so your Venture trucks will skate like Indies.

stoked to try one of these

Ben have you tried the Silver M Class trucks? those are what I ride after switching from Ventures. They have great stability with the super wide truss, large wings, while having an indy wb. I feel like my board is more reactive and responsive with a shorter wb but isnt squirly. they maintain stability. They are basically mids so they're a good deal shorter than Indys. They have big hangers like indys that make them grind better than Ventures and thunders. They're $50 on Syndrome Distrubution, get then from there that way you get their latest mold. I love em.

This board in an 8.125 is My Board Forever

I got one, I do kickflips 100 times better on flat boards , I did the girl G52 and then tried the easy rider , once I got used to the easy rider, definitely one of my favorite decks, however I wish I could buy the Ben Degros pony board lol

Are you back?