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The New Generation of Narcos Play by Different Rules than the Old School Cartels 

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Watch the full episode of Borderland here: • Inside Mexico’s New Ge...
Matthew Thomas is Chief Deputy of the Pinal County Sheriff’s Office in Arizona. Throughout his career, he has served in several specialty units-Detention, Patrol, Traffic, Training, the Police Academy, Motors, Narcotics, and Investigations.
He is also the author of the book ⁠Interceptors: The Untold Fight Against the Mexican Cartels.⁠

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@Carlosgnz.
@Carlosgnz. 2 дня назад
As a Mexican being from Mexico the big difference now that stands out to me is back then they wouldn’t mess with women or kids but now everyone gets it even ..
@_inked_out
@_inked_out День назад
Wasn’t in the late 80s-90s that some drug lords family got thrown off the bridge? Lil kids and all
@siner2442
@siner2442 День назад
Maybe it just wasn’t reported or investigated like it is now? Since Cartels are a huge focus’s now and anything attached to them just by rumor is posted by the media and blamed on cartels… u think u would ever think about people getting falsely arrested and doing years in prison? Bcuz some individual had enuff connections to make things happen or people getting their Rancho or getting killed for it… it’s not even a thought
@AntonioMontana_7.5
@AntonioMontana_7.5 День назад
That’s also mainly because now kids and women want to be part of that life too. They act tough and piss off real, hardcore MFs, and they end up getting it… simple as that
@Carlosgnz.
@Carlosgnz. День назад
It’s weird bc some cartels claim they don’t mess with kids or women but then again they always lie to make it seem like there the good ones..but in Oaxaca Mexico there’s kids getting kidnapped so they can sell there organs ..there was a lady who seen a truck full of them she freaked out and started sayying what she saw later on she was killed ..
@PJ-vl2ed
@PJ-vl2ed 20 часов назад
Nah u got it, that’s always been a thing, it’s just now being reported more and more media is spreading it
@elvisrodriguez2935
@elvisrodriguez2935 11 дней назад
Cartels make way more money than italian mafia
@IvoryDuran-wo7ys
@IvoryDuran-wo7ys 10 дней назад
True
@MG-wm9kq
@MG-wm9kq 5 дней назад
No they don’t 😂 you have no idea how big the Italian mafia is , go look up the biggest and richest criminal organization in the world…its the 'Ndrangheta not the cartels , even the yakuza is bigger because the government allows them to exist in legitimate markets as legitimate companies……
@SergioFlores-eg7mc
@SergioFlores-eg7mc 4 дня назад
Hell yea
@MG-wm9kq
@MG-wm9kq 4 дня назад
No they don’t lol the biggest and richest criminal organization is the 'Ndrangheta, and the second is the Yamaguchi Gumi… the cartel makes a lot of money of course but specifically the Italians have been doing what they want for over 100 years now it’s a completely different ball game……
@elvisrodriguez2935
@elvisrodriguez2935 4 дня назад
@@MG-wm9kq you wrong do some research
@erickuribe9860
@erickuribe9860 17 дней назад
Wow great interview, I like the ability of a person that can self reflect, it speaks highly of ones character.
@sombra6153
@sombra6153 17 дней назад
Rocco is 110% on the money. I worked in three border communities and had seen things transition from the “old school” traditional to the current state of affairs. I figured things would change, maybe already changing when NBC aired a television ministries entitled “Kingpin,” featuring a US ivy league educated cartel boss taking over Juarez. Not that we necessarily have Ivy League educated bosses running the shoes today, but they’ve learned to adapt and even set the pace. When the cartels figured out they had plenty of money and started exploiting technology, and probably acquiring expert training in weapons and tactics, that signaled a shift that no one was ready for. On the other hand, when money gets tight or political winds blow the other way, the first areas in US law enforcement to get defunded include training and the equipment to stay ahead of the game. Mexico probably suffers from this also. That they look at the drug business as well as hu… tra….. as simply a business to supply rich, pampered Americans with what they want is exactly what they are striving to do. Tra… doesn’t have the same moral stigma as it does up here despite the now overt efforts to legitimize those things. The cartels have adapted. When Americans preferred meth to coke & H, the cartels learned to make really good meth cheaper and in much greater quantity. Legalizing or decriminalizing everything else will not reduce or eliminate cartel strangleholds on everything until Americans truly decide they don’t want to delve into those evil habits anymore.
@tharobaap8433
@tharobaap8433 16 дней назад
USA IS THE LARGEST CONSUMER OF ILLEGAL DRUGS IN THE WORLD. THE RULING ELITE IN THE US HAVE ALREADY MADE AMERICANS DEPENDENT OM ANYTHING & EVERYTHING THATS DILUTED WITH CHEMICALS. DRINK MORE ,SMOKE PIPE MORE . NOTHINGS GONNA CHANGE. AMERICANOS CROSSED THE RED LINE LONG TIME AGO.
@aletheides2
@aletheides2 15 дней назад
Legalizing everything would move production to the domestic market, solving everything. We have already seen it with weed, weed from Mexico is something from the past.
@daviddaveiga7036
@daviddaveiga7036 15 дней назад
5t
@OskieOmega
@OskieOmega 14 дней назад
@@aletheides2you are aware the cartels control the illegal weed trade ? Even in legal states the unregulated weed is still here
@FreshlySnipes
@FreshlySnipes 12 дней назад
@@OskieOmegathe illegal weed trade that’s killing people because it’s laced with Fentanyl?
@coleymoke6709
@coleymoke6709 17 дней назад
I'm still unclear about how old-school and new-school differ.
@tvong81
@tvong81 16 дней назад
internet. cell phone. etc
@Effortlessliving81
@Effortlessliving81 16 дней назад
They are All government agents
@francisco4194
@francisco4194 15 дней назад
Old school cartels generally subscribed to the idea that violence is bad for business. Old school narcos would prefer to bribe to get what they wanted and only used violence when non violent tactics failed. If they had to take someone out they only took out the individual that crossed them, not family. The old-school Narcos invested in legitimate businesses in order to launder their drug profits and did not engage in extortion or kidnapping for ransom. These new generation cartels are much more violent and will use violence indiscriminately even when it’s not necessary to do so. These new cartels are much more fragmented and have expanded to extortion, human trafficking, and kidnapping for ransom as part of their business model . In the end, indiscriminate violence and Destruction destroys families and local economies and ultimately countries.
@Bee_Mavrick
@Bee_Mavrick 15 дней назад
Saved me the time
@matt24510
@matt24510 14 дней назад
Old-school had less collateral damage. Violence was more focused and just part of doing that business. Now they try to out evil each other. A lot of the cartel violence now, is not actually necessary.
@omarcarranza215
@omarcarranza215 13 дней назад
Even chapos son ivan has an instagram/tiktok account lol
@IvoryDuran-wo7ys
@IvoryDuran-wo7ys 10 дней назад
That's not him
@ghernandez2263
@ghernandez2263 День назад
Nah his sons accounts are just a bunch of randoms who find narco vids online & post them pretending to be them.
@omarcarranza215
@omarcarranza215 День назад
@@ghernandez2263 he has things with his initials. Sure anyone can do that but it's what's around in the pictures that nobody can replicate
@thetrailoutthere
@thetrailoutthere 11 дней назад
No lie! I grew up in Nogales AZ, and I can attest to this man's explanation. It's a wild west now without regard to other people's lives (involved in the cartel or not)
@HeWhoRemaiins
@HeWhoRemaiins 3 дня назад
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@HeWhoRemaiins
@HeWhoRemaiins 3 дня назад
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@HeWhoRemaiins
@HeWhoRemaiins 3 дня назад
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@unclejay2402
@unclejay2402 10 дней назад
Italians have closed the books for outsiders it’s been decades the cartel accept any earner who turns a profit . Big difference. So I heard anyways I watch a lot of RU-vid
@jorndoff2002
@jorndoff2002 7 дней назад
they are not even similar organizations. Other than both being criminals nothing at all. Totally different structure
@mr.christopher79
@mr.christopher79 16 дней назад
let your guest speak
@user-sr1tn4pl7e
@user-sr1tn4pl7e 15 дней назад
Did he just say he's from south Phoenix??? Where he grow up at ??
@icecoldcallerD
@icecoldcallerD 13 дней назад
Queen Creek lol
@biancacorrales9081
@biancacorrales9081 11 дней назад
Queen creek is its own city, not south phoenix
@icecoldcallerD
@icecoldcallerD 11 дней назад
South of Phoenix is what he meant ha
@scottgibson8080
@scottgibson8080 7 часов назад
Hahah He knows !! I sleep every night with one eye open, I’m with a PR girl
@siner2442
@siner2442 День назад
Mutual respect? Uhm no! Some of these guys risk their life, if they mess up a shipment or got some packages on consignment and can’t pay it back, they’ll disappear… maybe even a more than a few ppl may disappear? Some of these guys are 18-19 taking a huge risk, just to be able to put on a pair of Nike and some jeans and dress like Americans. They get caught up in the game, just to try and live life a little bit since there’s a big lack of opportunity over just to pay for effect day stuff. I don’t even see the point of law enforcement even arresting or being involved in anything that has to do with drugs or narcotics? Since they make zero difference and it’s just pointless… it’s obvious the Gov wants America pumped with drugz and full of addicts.
@IvoryDuran-wo7ys
@IvoryDuran-wo7ys 11 дней назад
Puerto Rican are not same as Mexican women bro totally different
@Matt24.
@Matt24. 10 дней назад
When I work construction, I work around a lot of Mexicans and they took it very offensive and said we are not Puerto Rican.
@IvoryDuran-wo7ys
@IvoryDuran-wo7ys 10 дней назад
@@Matt24. Well yea is totally different
@Matt24.
@Matt24. 10 дней назад
@@IvoryDuran-wo7ys my friend there explained it to me and yes totally different
@strafer8764
@strafer8764 2 дня назад
@@Matt24.which is funny because most of the time Rican women are better looking
@tonychapa3330
@tonychapa3330 16 дней назад
I'm married to a black person so I know everything about diamonds in Africa
@tharobaap8433
@tharobaap8433 16 дней назад
I AM MORE BLACK THAN BLACK BUT NOT FROM AFRICA. 🫡
@erich.2550
@erich.2550 15 дней назад
Well...they're considered an African then. Not Black as a Foundational Black American. Huge difference.
@slappy8941
@slappy8941 13 дней назад
​@@erich.2550lol okay 😂
@victoraintlistening
@victoraintlistening 10 дней назад
I’m married to a hispanic I know everything about tortillas
@IvoryDuran-wo7ys
@IvoryDuran-wo7ys 10 дней назад
​@@erich.2550same shit
@abdullaadel6430
@abdullaadel6430 День назад
cant trust you gily after you staped EZ
@user-tp5ls5dd7e
@user-tp5ls5dd7e 16 дней назад
Whatever you can grow you should be able to use.
@topopp5327
@topopp5327 10 дней назад
Supply and demand mfs want drugs someone gotta fit that money makes the world go around
@lopez-pv2de
@lopez-pv2de 2 дня назад
Italian mob doesn't even compare to the Mexican cartel nothing alike
@Andrew-qz2xy
@Andrew-qz2xy 10 дней назад
Cartel ain’t nothing like the mafia
@IvoryDuran-wo7ys
@IvoryDuran-wo7ys 10 дней назад
Cartel make more 🤑 money
@angrybanana5476
@angrybanana5476 8 дней назад
Well old school cartels worked like the cosa nostra
@_Delta_P_
@_Delta_P_ 5 дней назад
Yes they are. Large criminal organization with cops and govt in their pocket running a shadow economy.
@JimmySanders822
@JimmySanders822 16 дней назад
Both of you guys are so ignorant to objectional facts😂😂😂😂😂
@jsnow6925
@jsnow6925 16 дней назад
which are?
@mechadonia
@mechadonia 3 дня назад
Did you mean objective
@strafer8764
@strafer8764 2 дня назад
@@mechadoniaEnglish probably isn’t his first language
@tomaspadilla8698
@tomaspadilla8698 15 дней назад
😂😂😂
@fernandodavila5459
@fernandodavila5459 Час назад
Pura mafia
@nerychristian
@nerychristian 17 дней назад
Los Angeles is a beautiful city
@punchabunchofbuttons214
@punchabunchofbuttons214 12 дней назад
That place is a dump... literally, last time I was there, we saw 4 different people just shitting on the sidewalk like it was just a normal thing to do.
@IvoryDuran-wo7ys
@IvoryDuran-wo7ys 10 дней назад
Best city 🏙️
@giozsuaz4158
@giozsuaz4158 14 дней назад
Zero Cartel is in charge in Mexico. We have no name!
@RipPimpCScrewstonTX
@RipPimpCScrewstonTX 12 дней назад
It's called the CIA & DEA
@theodoregarcia8830
@theodoregarcia8830 13 дней назад
This cop is a complete sociopath , that he says he doesn’t take anything personally and this is the way he feeds his family , absolutely in humane , now if theres is violence or degenerate behavior against society , then yes laws are necessary for funcional society to exist , but if you don’t have the humane value system in your psychology , and its absolutely well documented that prisons are a for profit enterprise, and you know that the drug user is the the reason the drug industry exists, (albeit if the dealer is lacing the drugs or lying to the client , thats a breech and yes they should be imprisoned) but arresting dealers and users is only about profit for the criminal group exploiting the manipulation. They are more guilty than the so called dealer / user culture. Because they have the information and refuse to acknowledge it. The DEA, and drug task forces are a criminal organization. Duuuuh. This cop is so ignorant he even admits his doest care about civilization, he only cares about a pay check.
@slappy8941
@slappy8941 13 дней назад
Bro, nobody's reading your insane run-on sentence.
@JohnWick-ft2bu
@JohnWick-ft2bu 12 дней назад
Everything I just read is nonsense. Keep this to yourself save the embarrassment
@theodoregarcia8830
@theodoregarcia8830 12 дней назад
Everything i just said is really about psychology , and its absolutely real , our system of law enforcement is for profit entity , nothing to do with the truth , look up the kippler experiments , and there is way to prove what i wrote. Not many people are educated enough to really understand what i wrote. But the truth is that its a way to brain wash the people stupid enough, to follow orders that arent truthful. Thats all and maybe you can see the rationality, in what i wrote or maybe you arent able to comprehend the basis pf psychology that makes a person be desensitized and act irrationally , look “group mentality” and what its is. People need to be aware that truth is the law , nit a bunch of people that refuse to except the truth about human behavior, in order make a profit for them selves. Try to go deeper if you have the intelligence, otherwise reject it , and support your unwillingness to use your ability to reason , and remain on rejection of the for profit law enforcement , i dont need an english degree , i just have to be able use my sense of reason. Peace and love is how its done.
@benmyers9030
@benmyers9030 4 дня назад
​@slappy8941 you read it. And he makes perfect sense
@benmyers9030
@benmyers9030 4 дня назад
​@JohnWick-ft2bu denial is not just a river in egypt. The war on d... is actually a war on people. Cartels dont sell cigs or booze for a reason
@robertoaguilera80
@robertoaguilera80 16 дней назад
Free el chapo guzman
@IlIIIllIII
@IlIIIllIII 16 дней назад
You must feel very safe behind your keyboard huh?
@tharobaap8433
@tharobaap8433 16 дней назад
R THE AMERICANS SAFE ,REALLY SAFE NOW WHEN CHAPO IS IN THE PEN? IS THE DRUG FLOW TO USA STOPPED? GOOD STORY FOR GETTING VIEWS FOR US GOVERNMENT. END RESULT ? 🤔🫡​@@IlIIIllIII
@robertoaguilera80
@robertoaguilera80 16 дней назад
@@IlIIIllIII blame the usa for their drug use don't blame el chapo he had to do what he had to do to feed his family, usa would never blame themselves only others,
@dylanomalley8698
@dylanomalley8698 16 дней назад
@@robertoaguilera80😂
@ivan0oze886
@ivan0oze886 15 дней назад
50 year failure war on drugs they think 50 more years is gonna be different
@iamirondaddy
@iamirondaddy 13 часов назад
On the job racism works the same way.
@user-dv2gy5mh2q
@user-dv2gy5mh2q 17 дней назад
cops are not good guys
@damonjakobeit1830
@damonjakobeit1830 16 дней назад
Depends
@Lease990
@Lease990 12 дней назад
Yea but overall I wouldn't dream then bad either
@RipPimpCScrewstonTX
@RipPimpCScrewstonTX 12 дней назад
​@@damonjakobeit1830really does
@underballbutter
@underballbutter 3 дня назад
Yes they are
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