A look at some the most interesting concept cars at the Tokyo Mobility Show, including the future of the GT-R, the successor to the RX-7, the MR-2 and the Honda Prelide… plus more!
I just hope that some of these concepts lead to a vehicle that goes on sale, these all represent something that people would love to buy, not just another electrified SUV for the masses.
80 kwh battery pack so that you have the option to go just electric and then hydrogen fuel cell range extender with regenerative bracking fed back to the battery pack . Only down side I think would be the wheel base would have to be long to fit everything .
The 2 cars for me are the Mazda and the Toyota (MR2?), although that Subaru looked interesting. The GTR with a Honda Civic front end is not for me, but each to their own, I appreciate the uniqueness of it. One reason we're having so many EVs now is the quota enforced on manufacturers by governments, if they don't make a certain % they get huge fines. Anyway, great to see Mazda at it again!
Once again Dino you’ve done extremely well in this latest update from Japan! Very informative and well produced - I really enjoy your videos plus your sound tracks are awesome too. Keep up the good work and as always - stay safe over there my brother🙏 - Mark
the prelude reminds me alot of the 92-95 I'm all for it , it looks like it's ready to go I wish it was petrol or petrol/hybrid assist but we all know where we are and what the future holds. could that prelude possibly assist a 2dr integra 🤷♂️. the rx7/8 is great move I'm happy to see fun cars and not just suvs.
Funny little insert in the wheel chair kind if scene 😅 I think bevs will not give a petrol head the same feeling. For me at least. When I think about the reason why I like cars so much I find more of the reasons in cars with combustion engines than in bevs...
I doubt pure EV sports cars will sell well (granted they even reach production). Seeing how short batteries last while driving spiritedly (let alone going proper fast) and the time it takes to fully charge them I don't see many enthusiasts wanting to put up with these issues. Plus you have the lack of exhaust note which (to me at least) makes up for at least half the driving pleasure. Driving EVs is like watching a movie with no audio. Hybrids on the other hand I can picture selling well. You can use the EV motor for putting around town, going from A to B and when you want some fun you have the ICE engine. Looking forward to what Mazda is going to do with that RX concept.
Performance hybrids are amazing. Imagine a turbocharged V6, but with no lag. Instant and massive torque from a dead stop and at every RPM. Plus the gas engine for the higher speeds. The formula for performance hybrids is usually big hp engines paired to big torque emotors. They compliment each other amazingly well. And you only need ~2kWh of battery to do your thing. You recover tons of battery in braking zones, and there's always some overhead from engine going to the batteries (comparable to the draw of a supercharger). The batteries on a hybrid can also be set with huge buffers near 0 and 100. Such that the battery is always between true 25-75% -- this will extend the lithium ion longevity by 100x. Compared to 100kWh EVs that only can go a couple hundred miles... and will be shot after 10 years due to all the charge cycles and need to use the entire range of the battery (true 0-100%), which will kill the battery health.
I love the Mazda concept, but I would really love for them to so a lightbar-type rear light at the back. It seems to be very much in style, but it would also be a lovely callback to the FD3S
Very excited for the Prelude, and I'm glad it will be offered as a hybrid and not only as a pure ICE or BEV (those would be welcome, too). The market needs more not-boring hybrids. I hope Honda focuses on using the hybrid powertrain to improve performance and not just efficiency.
seeing the rx7 and the mr2 getting a comeback is beautiful, i hope they follow the steps of the nsx revival but succeed where that project struggled the gt500 stuff is exciting too great content as always
The hybrid rotary probably works like the 1st gen insight The electric motor output shaft will be bolted to the eccentric shaft on the 4 rotor (it is rumored to be a small dispalcement high revving 4 rotor hybrid) The electric motor will take care of torque until you get to the ~6k rpm that a rotary likes and that torque and power will take over. This is how it works in the 1st gen insight, the electrical system maximizes the efficiency of the ICE
There are Zero Emission alternatives for the IC engines, like LPG or modern Toyota Hydrogen powered AE86. Don't forhet about cars running on pure alcohol in Brasil. The EV is not the only way. It is only one of the choices and we should be free to make our own.
@@knightsportsfc3s Oh, really... I haven't noticed. We talk about what is now, and what options do we have. If you want to talk about the past I can tell you that in the beginning electric cars were more popular then internal combustion.
Engines are a huge part of a sports cars character so it's a shame to see these cars revived as EV's. At least the Mazda will retain a rotary of some sort.
That Century design is oddly superb. Like it has the niche touches of the modern era designs with slit headlights, sharp edges leading to the rear, front end of the cars looking like Goofy's shoe (if they arent going for a hyper car design), yet it has this suble 2000'ish front bumper design that lets you know this vehicle has been here for a long time. I like it!
Loved the “Buy N Large”, Wally reference. Not sure we have to go ev but that’s what the current “we are being sold” trend is I suppose. I like ev since watching a 510 at PIR late on Fridays, rockin a fork lift motor and batteries via a hand throttle busting v8 and 4 cyl turbos alike. They got plenty of soul, we just don’t have plenty of infrastructure. I mean it’s taken 100 years to develop our current situation and they think in 10 we will have it dialed like it is now? Ha. Doesn’t take away from the new tech from over 100 years ago finally having the right amount of current processes to make it more efficient. Not sold on an all out ban of ice, I would like more hybrids that are good but we’ll see.
Infrastructure isn't the real issue. It's the battery technology. Lithium Ion was a huge leap forward from the NiMH in Prius, but at the end of the day it's still only a viable solution for a hybrid. The materials needed. The amount of batteries you need to stack. The long-term longevity of those batteries. It all adds up to a massive L for most pure electric applications. If your commute is within 20 miles, OK. If you're using it on a 10k motorcycle, OK. Otherwise, the resource limits combined with increased manufacturing cost and the fact that every one of these cars will be garbage in 10 years is a huge L for the consumer. They will need to field a different energy storage solution besides Lithium for me to ever buy one of these cars. 100kWh SUVs and Sports Cars do literally nothing for the environment either.
The name Prelude also referred to its role as a test mule Honda tried everything on it first. Some are success, like variable valve timing. And some aren't. Like four-wheel steer.
6:56 and still i see Peugout RCZ/Peugeot 406 coupe/ Renault Laguna Coupe.... I pick - of course becuase of my love for RX series - new Mazda ICONIC Sp (hopefully called RX-9 in production stage). Petrol, rotary engine with EV system is for me - far most resonable combination. Also for big plus - 16C engine is capable to burn not only normal petrol but also synthetic. And synthetic petrol, in my opinion, is real future for cars. EVs will be option - still good, but only a option in powertrains catalouge
If my marketing instincts are right... (in Tony Stark) "and they always are", the internal rotary is REALLY there for the sound. They could have much more easily gone to just a cheezed down miata engine to power the batteries for far less but this will provide sound that re-invigorates the idea of driving the usual can-opener sounding not-so-thrill e-powertrain
I think the RX designation would be dropped due to its association with main rotary powertrain as opposed to a rotary as a secondary source that charges the battery for the electric powertrain. Maybe they'll do like an eRX-1 ("Erks?")
I'm not particularly attached to ICE cars. For me, it has to do with driving dynamics and passion. Look at hybrids. They used to be boring, but now we have cars like the 918, AMG One, and Valkyrie. EVs aren't quite there yet for me. There are some interesting cars like the Rimac Nevera, but they are far from affordable. I'm hopeful that Japan can bring EV driving passion to the everyday man. I imagine weight and packaging will be the biggest challenges.
So long as they're using Lithium, EVs will never be there. And I'm an early adopter on the Hybrid train... but I'll be sticking to Hybrids for the forseeable future. EVs are not viable. Can you imagine buying a mid 1990s GT-R -- still worth 40k 25+ years later. You buy that GT-R, and it will be in a trash yard 10 years from now. Doesn't matter if it only has 30,000 miles, garage kept, etc. -- those batteries aren't lasting and cost too much.
before anything else Dino amazing video thank you . let me tell you i love Mazda cars all the Rx rotory models. now as for that car mazda let us see the hybrid Mazda SP its a proof mazda doesnt give 2 F as to what we want.. how many years now ppl assking for a Rotory come back .. and rotory lover let me remind you dont ask for power. kist the rotory engine to be there we can make the power that was never ever the prob . but no mazda doesnt give flying F .. we dont need a hybrid rotory ..tht will ass 800 Kg on the car to give you 100 hp .. at few cases not always . no just make a 2 rotor tune down to pass emission add a sport mode button like the rest of the companies do to slide in few more extra HP .. and sell it to us .. take my moneyyyy. now if you want to be a great car company you can make it 3 rotor i wont complain i will still pay for it ...
Kinda sad to see all these iconic names going EV. I can see current cars price going way up in the future. If only I had the money to buy a new R35 now. Certainly a future classic.
The prelude, honda city concept and Toyota's century suv look adequate, while others are definitely cool, but are "too much" for me. They just need tone down the futuristic design imo.
THAT GTR HAS GOT TO BE ONE OF THE UGLIEST CARS I HAVE EVER SEEN BUT ON THE OTHER HAND HONDA KNOWS HOW TO DESIGN A SPORTS CAR AND IT SHOWS IN THE NEW HONDA PRELUDE THAT IS A CAR I WOULD BUY . MAZDA'S RX 9 IS GOING TO BE A WINNER , THE MAZDA DESIGN ENGINEERS STAYED TRUE TO THE IDEA OF WHAT THE NEW MAZDA RX SHOULD LOOKS LIKE AND I CAN APPRECIATE THAT . JUST THAT QUICK LOOK AT THE NEW TOYOTA MR2 BLOWS ME AWAY LOVE IT . THANKS FOR THE VIDEO AND PLEASE LET THERE BE MORE THAT WAS GREAT !!!🙏👍👍👍👍👍
@@nfspeedy2 well.. it depends on how you see it.. for me, if we really cant avoid facing EV in the future.. hybrid is the answer, if thats not the answer, F1 and Hyper Car wouldnt take and go that way..
The auto industry needs hybrid vehicles, not everyone wants to drive an appliance on wheels. Synthetic fuels are being developed and people still want a mechanical sense of propulsion.
Some of these EVs are gorgeous and they are going to be speed machines but I think the real answer is fuel agnostic hybrids. Less battery required, better range, every positive of the electric drivetrain is maintained and you can have your engine/generator run at it's peak efficiency always (minimum emissions no matter what fuel is used).
It really sucks everyone is going ev. It means a lot of us wont be able to afford the new sports cars coming out. Although im already practicing replacing ev battery cell replacement skills.
I work on EVs, including Tesla, and people shouldn't dismiss them just like that. EVs are evolving fast, it's nothing like 10 years ago. Performance Tesla models are wild and much fun at Touge. I'm even looking forward getting a beaten up Model S Plaid to repair and make my Touge fun car. PS. Increase in EV sales has nothing to do with quotas. I don't know anyone that bought an EV to say they prefer going back to ICE car. You have to try to understand. When I move to Japan, I'll probably get an EV for daily driving. Might even do a Tesla motor JDM car conversion, that could be much fun.
There are some cool designs but too many wrong engines, hope tuners would fix this. Another thing would be prices, I expect to be stupidly high, high in a way that they will sell 1/10 of what they expect. Manufacturers are digging grave with they're own hands.
Mazda has been dropping amazing looking 2-door RX concept cars for the better part of a decade now with nothing to show for it. Unless I finally see one in production within the next 18 months, I'm going to assume that Mazda has zero funding for this type of car and these are all design exercises, nothing more.
a part of me is sad that ICE will eventually die out , itll be interesting to see how the sales figures are considering how expensive some EV cars are already
That Mazda concept is just beautiful ....this is the first time I ever even consider to get one if it really goes into production; The new Prelude is just meh...the 90s soul has lost....somehow, Honda/Acura designs has always been polarizing ....They should learn from Mazda...stick with heritage...
