Of course he's coming from a place of insecurity. This is a sad song. If he was confident it wouldnt be a sad song. Art is about letting your inner world show through, and it's exactly what Ye does. It's a phenomenal song in my opinion and it really touched me.
It doesn’t feel like he’s trying to come from insecurity though, it sounds specifically like he’s trying to cover for it. It doesn’t sound honest at all.
@@tikifreakazoid trying to cover up insecurity is a feeling and a mood and that's what Ye presents us in this song. I have felt like this many times. I relate to this song and the feeling Ye put on it. I dont know if its intentional or not, probably a bit of both, but it doesnt really matter, the song is the end result, and It resonates with people, that's why its quality art in my opinion.
It's a regression to what he was creating since ye, he was improving with his way of jesus and shit, but now dissing his ex-wife just because yes, it shows a childish attitude
What the hell are y'all talking about don't you understand Kim Kardashian marry him because she loves who Kanye West is she married a black dude that was a rapper from Chicago which is my hometown and all you white people are tripping out because they're getting divorced give me a f****** break his kids are black he did a brilliant song y'all obviously know nothing about real hip hop cuz y'all wouldn't be saying that you must be some newbies from the f****** what 2000s give me a break shut up
Sometimes Fantano puts too much weight on having a perfect and clever verse that is topical and not “cringe.” I personally think the real ness and heart of Kanye’s verse is killer. He’s the only rapper who says what’s actually on his mind, 100% true to himself and his life, never about superficial stuff. One of my favorite Kanye verses in a while and on a sick beat
agreed, except the part about him being the only rapper to actually say what's on his mind. What about Kendrick, Cole or Nas, to name a few? There's many rappers spitting their thoughts, experiences and opinions ;)
lack of filter doesn't create quality though. while i certainly appreciate kanye willing to wear his heart on his sleeve it creates a feeling of watching a spoiled kid having a tantrum in this case, which is, as "fantano" points out, quite cringe-inducing. some bad results are to be expected with his no holds barred style of writing, but it doesn't mean i have to blindly defend everything he does, because sometimes the results are dogshit.
Honestly , the way Fantano missed on interpretation of this verse shows also why he has given lower scores to MBTF or Yeezus. Kanye doesn't always want to always look cool and he is aware that people listening to his music are judging him. He wants to be judged Expects it. He prefaces or ends most of his verses with a commentary. Here it was saying that he is talking more out of hurt pride than anything else. On MBTF on Power he says that he is omnipowerful etc but then has lines "you don't sleep" and crazy laugh with ending on suicidal ideation. On Yeezus he repeats "I'm a God" and then the second half of a song he screams in terror and hyperventiles suggesting the events surrounding the death of his mother. I'm not saying that all Kanye lyrics are top notch, genius level or that there is no cringe or anything like it, but Ye is more self-aware than people are giving him credit.
no, ye purposefully causing damage into his personal life so the media and y’all suck it all in over the internet, then he goes crazy with his music and we’re all already watching him because the media’s talkin about him so we go listen to his music, he is a marketing GOD. the breakup, MARKETING, Pete, MARKETING, everything was marketing, AB leaving then going straight to ye, MARKETING, got the news talking about AB! everyone’s talking bout ye and julia, and that kickback, MARKWTINGGGGGGGGGGG
Fantano has really fallen off, I appreciate everyone has their opinion and everyone is allowed to have that. Kanye isn't trying to come across as confident he's broken. I'm not even a big Kanye fan but this song hit me hard because it was the tale of a broken man falling apart his attempts at brag rapping were almost to protect himself from how much pain he's in. The lines about beating Pete Davidson ass are an expression of his insecurity and almost like all he has left is anger and violence from everything. Sure the track was awkward and uncomfortable to listen too but I believe that was his intention. To understand how uncomfortable and awkward he feels.
@@tylersmith6881 I don't think he is man, I think he sits there and almost insults kanye for being vulnerable. I just don't like how arrogant he is now days in his reviews. Not here for an argument
I love the track. Kanye’s appeal when it comes to lyricism is how transparent he’s always been. He will talk just as much at his most insecure and heartbroken as he will at his most confident.
Honestly I respectfully disagree with you melon. I think that this Single is an intriguing evolution from what Ye did on donda, and I understand what you mean when you say where is that runaway kanye. I believe that we'll get that type of music soon, but this song really encapsulates what he's feeling at the moment. I wouldn't call this insecure or delusional he is simply speaking about what he feels. I think anyone feeling emotionally wrecked isn't going to be a nice dude especially to the guy who just took his exwife. Ye is expressing those emotions through and through here, but hey i respect you're opinion my melon friend have a great day.
The difference is that The Game was Kim's ex and they split long before Kanye got with her. The whole Pete Davidson thing is following Kanye's divorce, one that he didn't want to happen.
I mean I don't really get this whole thing either way. As spectators, I don't understand why people are clowning Ye for it. And I generally dislike Ye. Clown me if you want, but as long as she doesn't cheat and we break up, IDC if she gets with another guy as long as she was honest about it. Like if I break up w/ my girl and want some ass a week later I don't want her to harass me about it. Def don't want her to write a trash verse about it.
I mean Pete Davidson has openly talked s**t about Kanye. When SNL turned on him after he showed support for Trump, Davidson has trashed Ye on numerous occasions. So as soon as the divorce papers are served Kim starts sleeping with the man who dissed her children’s father. That’s got to sting a little bit right? That said I don’t think Ye has room to be upset when he was dating too (even before Julia Fox he was with another model). Not to mention i think Kanye has cheated on Kim before? So on the one hand I get why Ye would be mad at Kim for sleeping with someone who has trashed him before. But he hasn’t been the best husband either. So i dunno.
@@mewgiah8057 you’re bound to cheat once in awhile if you’re a megastar celebrity and every woman is on your d*ck, the same body part that constantly wants to have sex
yea i think he forgot the opening line where he says some thing like "im going to let my petty side win" then he starts saying the shit he says which makes it makes sense
Whenever Kanye raps with this conviction it's always memorable. For example, the new life of the party verse is cool, but the drake diss version stands out way more. I get that Kanye comes off as toxic and insecure in verses like that, but it just feels like that's the real emotion kanye suppresses on his album songs
"It comes off as insecure rather than confident".... Maybe that's what makes it interesting? Maybe that's even the whole point? Idk i feel like it doesnt even matter what angle or level of self awareness kanye is approaching it with, it's equally interesting and valuable from any perpective.
This is a classic!! So much pain and truth bout this. I could see this on many movie soundtracks. I personally love rappers who speak of their life. His music is on his therapy.
Kanye being insecure and toxic doesn't make the song bad. It makes it real. The song was written in a bitter state and it's harrowing and wonderful to listen to.
ever since dark fantasy, it seems like kanye's confidence has had this element of insecurity, that's what i like, you see where he's coming from. i loved him talking his silly shit on his verse lmao
I think it’s always been true that the people who are the loudest and most arrogant aren’t actually confident. They’re usually the most insecure people and when you look at them through that lens it actually makes a lot of sense.
@@Hyphaen he may be aware of his insecurity but I think he’s just really going through it now. I feel like he’s probably not interested in holding his tongue.
Since dark fantasy? Yeezus is like ego on overload with supreme confidence and no insecurity, I’d say TLOP was where this insecurity as of late was really prominent
I agree. Just putting your feelings on a track doesn’t automatically make it deep. Especially when your entire life is in the public. It’s like people gloss over the fact that he has a lot of demons and mental health problems and refuses to work on them. It’s hard to be sympathetic to a dude that refused to get help or take meds as a condition of keeping the marriage going, and is now whining about being separated. Especially with him having literal bipolar episodes of mania and depression in the public and online. Living with someone with BD is like walking on eggshells and being a punching bag 24/7. Shits exhausting. Don’t forget, by refusing help when he knew well in advance what the consequences would be, he absolutely chose this.
I think that the rawness conveyed, what you may call insecurity, makes it artistically beautiful. To me, it encapsulates the weird feeling after ending a relationship, and the uncertainty of how you feel before having processed those emotions
It's really not that bad - Ive heard far worse efforts from Kayne. I dont think it's really meant to be taken that seriously - the Pete Davidson line was def said with a smirk
Anthony missed here. I don't think it could be more obvious that Kanye's verse isn't coming from egotism, as if he truly believes you're supposed to love him, No. The man literally prefaces his verse by exposing his own hypocrisy so that people wont get it twisted. 'God Ye, wanna let God in? But tonight, I guess I'll let my pride win'. It comes from a place of vulnerability. A desperate jab into the air hoping he'd hit something, knowing well there's nothing he could touch. And the Pete Davidson line is so obviously facetious. Do you really think Kanye is going to beat Pete Davidson's ass.
@@Fuckjaredmilton Fr, check all of these comments. Like kanye hasn't been acting insane, ruining his life and relationship with his kids and wife for years now stuck in his little bubble. All the shit he's said in his manic christian phase, running for president etc. He's a great dude and a musical genius but his stans need to realise not all the shit this don says is some genius work
@@Tom-xb2ml everyone in 2022 is in a bubble, you are right about Kanye, he obviously isolates himself, but you can include Melon and his smooth brain takes on politics and stuff like crypto too.
I don't get the point how you don't trust Kanye's motivations. At this point you gotta acknowledge that Kanye literally puts everything that goes through his mind with no filter on wax. From a self proclaimed narcissist., he would flat-out say that his new relationship was based on jealously if that was the case or it crossed his mind at all. When has Kanye ever hide his tongue in the past?
So you think a narcissist that isn't self-aware, because Kanye isn't self-aware, is going to suddenly notice that he's with someone to make someone jealous? Stop nut hugging Kanye. Just stop. He sounds like a bitter ex on the track.
My main gripe with this idea is that the fact is that Kanye has a hard time understanding himself and the outside world due to his truncated view of how the world works. Kanye is not the biggest expert on Kanye anymore, he lost himself when his mother passed
legit lol, and i dont understand how he says kanye went to julia out of jealousy. wouldnt kim go to pete cos shes jealous? lmfaooooooooooooooooooooooo like hes also dated irina before
I m not defending what Kanye is doing but I do understand the hurt. Dude had a family with Kim and she was who he went to after his moms death. To have that person leave you and you’re left on your own causes people to go down dark paths. Not defending it but saying I get it and it’s a lot easier to just say “fly straight”
I've gotta say Melon, I think you're off the mark on your thoughts regarding Ye's verse. There's no posturing, trying to be the good guy, framing, there's only a story of how Ye is feeling right now, and what he's going through. Yes its sad, because the situation is sad. Yes, he's coming off as insecure, as that's exactly how he's feeling. When did putting your feelings on a track become a bad thing? I don't like how this open and vulnerable track has been reduced into a discussion about Pete Davidson. Whilst we're at it the Pete Davidson line is tongue in cheek, he's not actually threatening him. He's hurt by this whole situation, the breakdown of his marriage, the fact he can't be around his children, the fact his wife is moving on. Is he not allowed to feel jealous? vengeful? petty? he's human too. I think this level of openness is missing in a lot of songs these days, Ye has always been willing to put what he's been going through on wax, and this verse has a few great lines "Go to court together/Go to Kourts together", "Don't negotiate with therapists", "Boujie and Unruly need to do some chores". This is a great snapshot of what's going on for Ye right now, something we've all been excited to see - how will the divorce effect him? coparenting these children who've grown up in a very different lifestyle to his own childhood, seeing your ex wife move on, and I think the verse is great as it touches on each of these aspects, whilst including some classic cringe/corny Ye lines too.
This dichotomy of artsy vs “not so artsy” has always kind of existed between Album Ye and Feature Ye. His feature versus are pretty much always a bit more aggressive and referencing contemporary life stuff or pop culture. He never gives the Runaway or Come to Life kind of character. I definitely prefer the album stuff. Edit: yes, I meant verses instead of versus. It was 3am lol
Chris speaking facts here, I'm sorry but anything by kanye is the best. Sorry melon just like yeezus and mbdtf imma dislike the video. Kanye venting his feelings over a sick beat is all I've wanted as a fan since the initial scrapping of yandhi.
You accidentally revealed that you haven't listened to the platinum albums dropped in the early part of ye's career cuz college dropout, graduation, late registration, where some of the most confident bars of all time are dropped. Also some of ye's most insecure, to be fair
i dont really get why you dislike his verse here. this is literally the same ye we've had. Bragadocious, narcissistic, and no filter. only difference being a divorce. honestly loved the single.
@@boomerthedingo2196 "bro code" bro what are you, 13? Also, he literally threatens to beat up his exes current bf because, shocker, she seems happy. Crazy. Almost like Kanye's ego wouldn't allow him to believe she could have a life outside of the great yeezus
I see the Pete Davidson line almost like ironic, 20 years of incredible career starting from a life-threatening car crash brought him to nothing more than a miserable and desperate state that he is in now, look how it went down for me kind of feelin
Yup. Kanye isn't just mentally ill threatening his exes new bf cuz she looks happy. He's just such a genius and so layered we just don't quite get the satire. Couldn't just be drumming up controversy to sell another mid release
Yeah I don’t think Kanye come on the track to do the things you said, he’s not trying to come off as the good guy or the sympathetic character. Sure the Pete line was immature, and he’s being insecure. But he’s also going through a lot and that’s him being him.
Exactly, he is no way trying to portray himself as the good guy, he's literally just letting off steam, venting and saying all the petty stuff he feels. True art isn't a popularity contest 🤣
i like honest raps even if the lyrics are immature. it's all about the vibe so when you're feeling something strong you should press the record button.
I’m pretty sure 90% of people would feel insecure about going through a divorce, and Kanye is an artist so being able to put that insecurity into music works great for me, how are y’all thinking that’s a bad thing?
Because it shows a large immature/petty side that looks bad on anyone. If it wasn’t Kanye saying it y’all wouldn’t feel this way, it’s obvious he is hurt but there is a time and a place to air all of his thoughts. There is insecurity but that doesn’t excuse his actions like threatening another celebrity or harassing his ex wife
@@IamWinningFoundation when is the time and place then? he's venting and putting his raw emotions into a song of his, which is dealing with his current state of mind and family life. I'm finding it hard to understand how being brutally honest and even coming off as insecure is a bad thing on a song. And that Pete line was obviously a snarky joke, read through the lines.
But this verse is openly toxic and threatens a man? Art stops being art when everything ye said in this verse he truly believes as reality. His actions and words during these times have literally torn his family apart. Sure, let's have our rawest emotions displayed in our art. But let's make sure to keep our home life in order and our loved ones happy first.
@@Fuckjaredmilton I mean, this is a track about how life isn't easy. He's talking about his difficulties and how much he's trying make life easier for himself. Fighting Pete, to him, would make his life easier
Damn Anthony completely missed the point. It’s less about him looking “cool” and more about him capturing his feelings at the moment Which makes it more genuine than 99% of rappers can claim to be. Literally on brand with “blame game” or most of 808s
Well he mentions Runaway in the video (which is in the same vein as Blame Game) to show how low Ye has fallen. The MBDTF stuff was moving and sincere because it was a mix of arrogance and admitting to faults: it was self-aware; this isn't. No self-awareness (been like that for a while now) & doubling down on arrogance can look fun at times, but not when you're trying to be a victim - shit's his own fault; yea it's genuine, but it goes to show how Ye doesn't see the problem, literally avoiding any blame.
@@mastersoftoday didn't he literally say in the song "but tonight guess ill let my pride win" showing that he is literally aware that he is being a hypocrite?
Notice how he goes from saying Kanye’s new relationship is only because he’s bitter and wants to make Kim jealous, but then in reference to the Pete Davison line he treats their relationship with upmost respect and says they’re just consenting adults and it’s nothing more than that? Funny.
3:13 Ye bares his soul sometimes on tracks, and maybe he isn’t “confident” and maybe it’s clear that he is insecure, but he doesn’t hide it. He shows you how he is feeling even if it isn’t the perfect image of him he wants remembered. It’s a slice of his true soul, and I honestly MUCH prefer that to any confidence-boosted song that would go over well with new audiences. This is Ye again, telling us how he feels. I respect that, a lot.
I liked the song and kinda even liked the Pete Davidson line too. I interpreted it as him saying he went through all the struggles in his life and survived a near death experience and all it's eventually led to is him being the guy who is going to "fight" Pete Davidson. That's all people think his life is at this point.
@@ozkan576 i know his music of course and i know what hes capable of but if u actually think he was thinking that deep while writing this line then ion kno what to say
I'm goin through a divorce now and his ex wife is a gorgeous super model so i feel for him. I won't go crazy hopefully because watching Kanye is enough lol
Melon, its a moral core between friends to not get together with someone's wife specially if you're friends with that person. Its not at all breezy, my life has never been eazy.
i just dont understand how melon thinks the bars are insecure or whatever. what about them was insecure? literally any diss track comes from a place of some sort of "insecurity" which is why anyone who makes them feels the need to.
When you said, "What a waste?" My heart shattered into a million pieces EDIT: I think His verse was definitely sad, but that was the best part. It's interesting hearing him rapping about being heartbroken and legitimately sad. The range of emotions, from showering with the Yeezy boots, to the instinctual anger of seeing someone with the person you love. This is a very HURT Kanye. And while it's not the best look for your average Joe, Kanye isn't that. He's an artist putting his feelings and everything he's currently going through into his music. And these sporadic releases are because he drops literally when he feels like it. He's definitely powered by his emotions, but as an artist, I find it really entertaining to see. And in the music itself, I think these are some of Kanye's most memorable bars since Ye. I understand your criticisms, as it definitely would be a cringe look, and if he was my friend, I'd DEFINITELY be concerned. But as an audience member, I find this one of his most entertaining tracks in a while.
I loved the ye verse, honestly I think as far as the divorce bars I definitely think it could have been worse, way more petty and crazy so I think he actually came across as pretty restrained, also as a ye fan the newminati biiiitch line is gold and I love it every time I play the track
Rapper: “killing my opps” Anthony: this comes off more as insecurity than confidence. Is that really the best way to handle the situation? Just sounds like he’s really bitter. 0/10
Kanye: *threatens to beat up the boyfriend of his ex wife because she seems happy* People who nut hug Kanye: "LOL THIS SHIT FIRE BRO HE SMOKED PETE DAVIDSON BRO" Inhale anthrax
This is the same dude who will listen to death grips and call them amazing lmao, can’t take anything he says serious. He’s such a clown 95% of the time when it comes to Ye
Why're we expecting maturity and emotional stability from Kanye lmfao. The cringe bars were literally just the energy Kanye brings to the public sphere, i quite liked the track ngl
@@romaretaylor9953 If any other rapper was in the context Kanye is in right now, no, I would not trash these bars. I genuinely think Kanye said what he needed to on a verse that was a long time coming.
I think the insecurity coming out in the lyrics is what makes the song great, I don't want an over arrogant ye coming through in the song, I want the real ye coming through
One of the first lines in Kanye's verse is *"But tonight I guess I'll let my pride win."* It explains the petty/insecure nature of his verse. This is a very important detail 🕵🏾♂
Okay. Is he insecure because he stalks his ex and moves next to her? Or insecure because he wants billie to apologise for stopping her show and gettinf an inhalor when instead she should have also done nothing and let the person die, like travis? Or is he still insecure because of the gay fish jokes? Kanye is such massive childish douche hahahaha
Well of course he sounds insecure on the verse. Because he is. He's a person going through a divorce and he's struggling. It's not supposed to be braggadocios. He's struggling like any person in his situation would.
I think it's hypocritical going against Kanye for not sounding cool about his rage or for not sounding polished while venting. He's literally riding off his raw emotions and talking about his kids being spoilt while acting spoilt himself. It's honest, it's genuine and that right there is being a true artist.
Exactly. I thought his verse was hilarious and disturbing. I get the points being made here, but I think his raw emotions make for an interesting song. And we can all have these feeling when going through a divorce, whether or not we are immature enough to voice them!
Melon has this weird hate against male artists being vulnerable, ironically shoving toxic masculinity and telling these artists to man up instead of “whining”. It’s weird
@@CaptainFracture for real when he tweeted him to “man up”, it was so interesting to seem him back peddle becausehe knew he said some shit… but it shows what he thinks abouthow men should act
"everyone's gonna be on my side, it's gonna make sense, and I'm gonna look like the good guy" melon when has Kanye cared about being the good guy and making sense? Man is being brutally honest, of course he's gonna sound insecure cause he is, how is that a negative lmao
“When has Kanye cared about being the good guy” you must not have seen his most recent interview where he said that he bought the house across the street from Kim to “be able to see his kids”. He wanted to come off as the “good parent” to the media, but he clearly was just still in love with Kim when he bought the house.
@@scottiebarnes7417 How do you know that though? you're making alot of bad faith assumptions, do you really think its not possible that he got the house because he wanted to be closer to his kids?
@@strawhatJ no. Seeing as Kanye is bitter about Pete Davidson, constantly addressing and talking about Kim, rebounding with Julia fox, he clearly isn’t over Kim. It doesn’t take a genius to figure that out. Coincidentally, he just happens to buy a house across the street from her? Cmon guys…. It’s not rocket science
@@scottiebarnes7417 ....so he could be closer to his kids. Did you also forget to mention how the same thing happened to him when he was young? His parents split, but his dad decided to stay in Atlanta? Never Abandon your family? Some of you lot just be saying anything, if you're going to critique him or question his motives at least come with facts.
@@judee5546 everything I said was a fact. If he wanted to be closer to his kids, he could’ve just bought a house in the general area. But across the street? That’s where it reaches the “I’m not over Kim and I want to be near her” stage.
It's crazy how people jump ship when they hear something outside of what they're use too. If we could hear what goes on in you. I bet it wouldn't be NICE!
what’s wrong with a rapper feeling and being insecure in his music. the beats artists give a lot of themselves and pour who they are and how exactly they feel I to their music all the time, whether it’s them being in love or being depressed. why are those acceptable feelings but not a feeling of insecurity? why must confidence be so important in rap? we’re human - most of us don’t feel confident most of the time, so why should be an artist be able to express this through their art? the logic doesn’t make a lot of sense to me, but it’s your opinion. love your videos. review “made in lagos” by wizkid
That’s what I’m saying it’s a human emotion it’s no different than Marvin’s room. I didn’t like the sapiness of that song but I appreciate the balls drake had to put it out.
I think being vulnerable is a good thing, but when people say “it feels really insecure” it’s probably more cause the emotion is often expressed as bitterness or childishness. I think that the difference between someone being “vulnerable” or “insecure” is that insecurity tried to hide itself whereas vulnerability is introspective.
@@666kittycat666 I know it sounds bitter and childish. that’s the point. a filmmaker can make a film and in it, express bitterness about something. what the emotion is is not the point. the point is that it is coming from a real place. we’re humans. I feel jealous, bitter, etc. As an artist, if that is how I feel, what’s wrong with saying that. there are no negative emotions
This cover fits the song. I think the song is great, but it’s hard to listen to. It’s a really depressing song and Kanye’s verse is great. I totally disagree on this song, Kanye’s verse is kinda insecure but I think he knows that and he’s just letting everything spill out. It’s memorable and powerful for me because it shows how Kanye is struggling.
wasn’t expecting a lot going in… it’s just a funny single ye put out with his old friends. it’s funny as hell and entertaining for the culture. don’t draw too much from it over analyzing and everything. ye just wanted to get back in his arrogant egotistical bag and i’m here for it
Not only does he sound like a cringe ex boyfriend, you're hugging the nuts of a cringe ex boyfriend who is publicly documented as being mentally ill. See a therapist and stop glorifying this man who is suffering and causing suffering
