The New Kill Team Balance Dataslate is GOOD 

0:18 Intro 0:53 Core Rules 3:58 Kommandos 5:17 Vet Guard 7:34 Void Dancers 8:38 Wyrmblade 9:20 Warpcoven 11:39 Farstalker Kinband 12:55 Hierotek Circle 15:41 Exaction Squad ;) 15:55 Hearthkyn Salvagers 18:34 Fellgor Ravagers 20:40 Chaos Cults + Closing Thoughts [This message was brought to you by Warpcoven with the Curseling, Eye of Tzeentch as a Sorcerer proxy]

Warpcoven proxy idea: Word Bearers with a Dark Apostle as your sorcerer.

"Too bad no one plays the team (Wyrmblade)" vic where are u i just wanna talk

Warpcoven proxy idea: Grey Knights - leader is some sort of fancy inquisitor or grey Knight model. Rubrik marines are grey Knights, tzaangors could be inquisition retinue type members

Enjoyed this as a nice change of pace. You should cover more general news/announcements and balance changes in between battle reports

I think the radius of the Detonate that Vic was trying to explain is very relevant. If you consider "area denial/area of effect", the reduction of 1inch in radius reduces the area from about 28 square inces to 12,5. Depends a little how you consider effectiveness, but in terms of area it is less than half of what it was before.

Im doing Wagh Cov'N! Ork weird boys, Ard boys woth soace marine back backs, and Gloomspite gits as Tzangors. You could also do a word beared theme and have beast men instead of Tzangors.

Warpcoven proxy idea: mad scientist team. iron hands, iron warriors, admech 30k priest w cybernetica maniple or cryptek with canoptek constructs come to mind as ideas. Sorcerers are teched up leaders w spells being funky experimental weapons or gear, rubrics are experiment robots of some flavour (servitors, thalaxi, canoptek wraitha etc.) that require input to work properly. Tzangor are minor acolytes, trainees, light assault bots etc.

I'm planning to proxy Warpcoven as a Bloodraven Librarian team 😊

In the up and coming season can I request for more painting tutorials on the channel? I absolutely love the vaporwave style used for the commandos and for the mandrakes and would like to watch the process that goes into brining these fantastic minis to the channel. Thanks for releasing content onto youtube and hope yall keep enjoying what you do!

Banger update, banger vid. Just sad the vet guard nerfs happened after that uh...unfortunate match

If you're looking for something to play as Thousand Sons that's not Thousand Sons, you could do the Blood Raven space marine chapter from Dawn of War that is almost certainly a loyalist successor chapter of the Thousand Sons.

Since you like Eldar you could proxy the warpcoven as warlocks and wraithguard and use a spiritseer as your leader. And use wraithblades or something for the tzaangors.

Multiple mine uses for vet guard were riddicuous considering Phobos and Kaskrin could only plant once.

its funny, i was keen on a void dancers team, but when i saw they removed fly, my first thought was now i don't. might still get them further down the track but they wont be a sooner rather than later pick now. conversely, warp coven that i was fairly interested in, i now definitely want to play. same thing when kasrkin got their buff to modify an additional miss into a hit, i went from interested to a purchase real quick

your jump tests commentary is kind of funny when coming from the custodes vs orks game

Love this channel! Thanks for making a video so quick! Love the Warpcoven changes. Can't wait to use them. Also, the captions made Farstalker Kinband "Fart Soccer" instead, and I just had to share.

The proxy Warpcoven team that I made is a Word Bearers Ashen Circle team. The Ashen Circle are iconoclasts, specializing in burning books and tearing down heretical symbols. Inherently, their whole specialization is about destroying knowledge and determining what remains. I am saying that by the 40k setting, this select group of Ashen Circle warriors have become a Tzeentchian cult. They don't reject the other gods, but follow Tzeentch for guidance in seeking out heretical symbols and knowledge. I'm also basing this on the Word Bearers specialized "Coven" detachment as mentioned in the book Daemon World. It is a combination of specialists, sent off to complete specific tasks, which I use to explain the abnormal mixture of psychers and specialist weapons. I started this idea just for Kill Team, but now I'm building a small force to run as a 40k Thousand Sons army (I have no self control). Proxy-wise, I am using Ashen Circle models as a couple of my sorcerers, and my rubric marines are wearing the new Mk. 3 armor, have shield generator packs to represent the Invuln save, and use HH heavy flamers or autocannons for the gunner options. For tzangors, I just have a couple of standard beastmen.

Warpcoven got some *crazy* buffs, and I already liked them a lot. Maybe they'll replace the Legionaries as my primary team.

Love the Timmie’s product placement ;)

Just got into the painting/gaming aspect of miniatures, love the channel!

I'm so confused with the Warpcoven constantly getting buffs. I'm not complaining as I have always been using them and even as Rubrics only. Luckily, they have always been competitive at my local gamestore and have been a blast to play. Now I might win too easily... Tzeentch!

Having the limit on the mine was weird to me a first. Demo having to be alive to plant and detonate I felt was a good balance instead of proximity. But he also never lived long enough after the first went off to even plant another anyway.

Counter temporal FINALLY in line with the rules

I'm addicted to Warhammer and timmies as well

Where is my bespoke Tyranid team, GW?

Chaos Cult Losing the winged ability while big is understandable. But why the hell did they remove a devotee... it ruins the GA 2 they have so you have 9 GA 2 Devotees... also the devotees are made of paper. if they changed the amount of mutants and Torments you could have on the board it would have been a better nerf.

The restriction on forward deployment of operatives only applies Beta Decima. The vet guard went from having arguably the best bomb to the worst, the range is reduced to 2” the bomb can only be used once and it can’t kill people through solid walls it’s also only AP1.

Great video. So, are you guys Canadian? Note the Tim Horton's cup.

The change to the void dancers was too much.

So for open, void dancers need to traverse now and spend 4 movement to jump over walls?

Can the apprentek use the rite of reanimation now that it is no longer an "action"?

So i know they've changed things to line of sight vs visible, but if you're visible while concealed youre still considered concealed right?

Lol Vic calling me out for Fisto Krako....

The Knux smash example doesn’t quite work bc it would require 3APL charge-smash-fight

I’m really disappointed in the vet guard nerf. It makes sense but they won’t so long without changes I was hoping they would always be as released. I also agree that letting the demo plant the mine more than once was fine. It’s hard enough to do more than once. Spotter is probably still good. Demo I’m a little unsure about now instead of medic or zealot

As far as the “jump test” goes, I think they should have doubled down on it. If you fail the jump test, roll again. On a 1 you fall into the soup and die. On a 2, you almost make it but are left hanging by your finger tips on the far side, dropping your weapons and screaming for someone to come and help you back up. Fun stuff like that! I’m sure someone playing in a tournament, with a Golden ticket on the line, would really enjoy random nonsense like that.

Dunno whybthey neefed the kroot hounds with GA1. Well.... would be funny to have 10 kroot warriors with GA2.

I think over all the changes are fine with a few exceptions: -Vet guard demo got way too nerfed. Now it is the worst bomb in the game in every aspect, that you need to set a combo to be able to use it. High risk no reward basically. -I feel like Fellgor Ravagers are going to be super weak because of the lack of warpaint - jump test my beloved got removed...

Some fun/goofy proxy teams. Weird boy warpcoven?

Hi y'all. Thank you for this video 🙂 Did they have the Pathfinder balance sheet released when you covered this version (pdf page 3)? I'm looking at it online today (3/31), but I'm new to this and kind of need some help, if that's possible Either way, thank you again. I enjoyed this video a lot 🙂

As I play Fellgor as my primary team, I do not think this dataslate was good - the leader ability nerf is bigger than you give credit for, because you cannot just target someone across the board anymore and the increased cost for war paint os huge. Also, minor correction, the war gong ability is change crit damage to normal if you are close to it. Also think the Warpcoven buff is too big, but nice to see Kommandos get nerf again. Otherwise, great vid!

1000%! Getting rid of Jump Tests is craptastic ridiculousness.

so obviously you have to replay and re-film every battle report involving any team or map that received changes. otherwise your channel will be invalid.

great video!

It was one hell of a data slate, I’m excited for the game again. That said, the data slate is getting pretty damn long lol

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Farstalker kill band, am I understanding now instead of twelve operatives you can have thirteen operatives as long as it's not a kill broker?

Cool

if its competitive to not roll dice why even have dice rolls for shooting?

My Death Guard got obliterated by some Kasrkin on Bheta-Decima because they were able to just point and take out a Plague Marine per turning point. I still had a good time, and Death Guard still didn’t get any real buffs.

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Any chance of more Warcry soon?

Lewk how Dey massacred my Boyz…

This dataslate makes me want to dust off my Warpcoven. I had the most fun playing them even if they weren't very effective. Now however...

The argentinan meta of KT was crying about the necron nanomine, so the finally nerf it.

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First again

Nerfing vet guardsmen, to the dust is not so nice :/ they are not my main.