The New Mahindra Thar Is Like A Wrangler, Except Where It Isn't: Here's What You Need to Know! 

me who thought mahindra only existed in India

Scorpio is a very commonly used vehicle in semi urban and rural India too.. I am glad you like it in your country as well.

Mahindra is a very big company in india and also successful scorpio is very popular in india

@@xd.5513 MAHINDRA IS AN INDIAN COMPANY

@@swaritprashar5848 i already know dude. i am from india

Cheers from India. Eat, drive, sleep.👍

@@tapas1505 cheers Bud👌

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Wr are you from

@supreme 08 my old Samari was excellent off-road. Don't know about rock crawling, but actual dirt it was amazing. I figure a Jimny should be similar.

Yes so we can loose more jobs in America!

@@90210sky not necessarily. Mahindra did assembly in the USA with US employees, Jeep could make something competitive in the same space if they chose to.

@@90210sky mahindras have a plant in Detroit

90210sky you LOSE jobs in America (by that I think you mean the U.S.A. as "America" is the continent!) because you don't pay attention to LOOSE screws (and I don't mean THAT kind of " screws"!) where it counts!

Ya bro agreed

Correction base price starts at 12500$

No kidding? A 100k USD? even the Indians who import it pay less than that. Man that's expensive AF. But hey, you got Dodge in your country, so you guys can buy a Demon, whereas we can't because here people want to know only the mileage that the car gives

Anyone that would pay a100K usd for any Jeep product is a complete buffoon.... And believe me we have many in the states...

We have jeep.. But expensive

Still a 5 to 1 advantage Mahindra.

Yea

i see what you did there ;)

Mike Tyson would call it that.

In USA they will certainly use the same production facilities available for M&M Roxer at Michigan AMERICA.

@@ATRichard :)

You are creating a lot of pollution mate.

@@MrVishawjeet he has seen, not that he's driving one.

@@MrVishawjeet Unfortunately we can't invade countries for fullfill our oil requirements. We use what we have.

@@gobimurugesan2411 😂😂

@@gobimurugesan2411 nailed it 😆😆

There will be a competition for the second place, the first will go to Mahindra. I am certain of that

It's simple, easy to own and gets the job done with minimum expenses.

actually no! It will never be, well maybe but not at launch coz Jeep and Ford sells on Brand value even tho Mahindra has proven to be very reliable and cost-effective and very very good with service they will still be seen as cheap, it's not too blame anyone but it's just how we see things, but those who can see past the Brand aspect of cars they know which one is the real deal haha

@@souravde2029 how long have they been in production?

@@timcapuchino3563 well Thar is what we should consider the 3rd generation of a vehicle but CJ3A was the first model of this that was launched in 1949 and then MM540 and then in 2010 Thar as we know it today was launched and tbh they still look the same, that's what the company is going for, the original look of Willys

Chrysler purchased AMC who had the rights to willy's.

I get what you mean, but.. with FCA owning ALL the rights from Willys, Kaiser, and AMC, so theoretically they do have the right legally to do so

Holy sh!t. I fact checked you and you are spot on! Why do people not know this? The Toyota FJ was a knock because they had no agreement with Willys.

And yet Mahindra lost the legal tussle.

@@fookrefookre349 mahindra has right to use this design only in India.

Since when did Australians start getting thars?

Stop lying, Australia doesn't have Thar Yet .

@@imviiku it wont come too because of FCA case

Bhi tukitna maje leta hai ... Kabhi Australian Kabi Maynmar Kabhi Japani Kabhi Taiwan Kabi Phillipines

BS, there's law suit going on THar is Aust.

With the new Bronco on one end, and Mohindra on the other Jeep would get eaten up!

@@andmicbro1 The Bronco would not! Jeep has been here forever. Why did Bronco disappear for 25 years and comes back and you praise it. Did you know Bronco would not be produced in 25 years? How do you know Bronco would not disappear again?

@@myytchannel6632 Dude, it's a car, don't get so butt hurt.

Infact Mahindra and Ford have just entered into joint ventures for the production of 3 SUVs and the future bronco sport may likely turn out to be rebadged Mahindra Thar. That's what i am hearing from insiders

Taylor Ning that partnership is most likely to break bronco into the Indian market at a cheaper rate than the Wrangler

Yes, would love to see it here in Oz, it would suit me fine.

This is Great Jeep. its small sturdy and super Great you just take a test drive and you will forget old second Gen samurai. compact and integrated. It beats present Gimny

@@its.a.beautiful.world. *jimny

They're coming to Oz

It was after the 550xdb came the thar

Thar is reliable, never seen one breaking down in the middle of nowhere and its way less costly.

Search Autocar India Mahindra Thar and know everything you want about that.

I am an East Indian who had a 2006 Wranger TJ, 1998 Cherokee XJ. the straight six engine and the Toyota transmission on both are bombproof. These both were very reliable vehicles. Gas mileage is low but maintenance is really cheap, were self maintained a 100%. These vehicles were simple designs and just plain reliable. Watching this video specifically for the comparison :-). Good day.

@@justinjoseph129 i miss the straight 6. best engine jeep ever had.

@@cydonianman 4.0L straight 6 rules, especially with the 6 speed manual.

Some says Mahindra is India's Toyota.

The thing is that Americans have Toyota. Those things have gone everywhere across the world from the hot desserts in the Middle East and South Africa to the bushes in Australia. Toyota's are also better in terms of quality, technology and overall fit and finish.

@@rnayabed yep

it is not that good in terms of reliability. we had an XUV 500 and there was always a problem with it considering we did not do that much offroading with it.

@@siddharthsangwan7671 simpeler cars will always remain more reliable . xuv500 is quite complicated and mahindra tried quite a lot of new tech in xuv500 and i have never liked thier xuv line up .. mahindra is always sexy in bolero , scorpio & thar style .

Their Roxor sells well but , they have this battle going on with Jeep, plus they did try to bring Scorpio to the united states but ran into dealership problems.

The iconic Mahindra Scorpio costs only around 22,000$ in India.

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Limited? There’s only several hundred models from about 10 different Makers

It sell really good in india. Has an entire cult following it.

About 50k booking before 1 year of launch 💪. It is a great number in India. Thanks for supporting our brands bro ❤️

Its selling like hot cakes in india

Something like Copyright issue, even Roxor has to do Design changes.

It has a 1 year waiting period currently

Haha if jeeps were easily available in India, no one would buy mahindras.

@@ishdeepsingh2960 Im in the USA and Id buy a mahindra over a Jeep - they are mediocre quality and over priced.

@@bikeman1x11 I agree they are overpriced, but if you think jeeps are mediocre quality, you wouldn’t be pleased with a mahindra 😬 also I’ve heard no one mention a good reason but price

@@ishdeepsingh2960 Bawe Indian Brands Make Indian Fool. They Sell Poor Quality Of Cars, Jeeps in india. Our authority jusr eat money & dont care about people life that's why they launch vehicle with poor safety ratings. But bahar Esa Nahi Hai. USA Europe mei standard dekhte hai. Thats why OLA Cars ka licence cancel kr dia. UK ne.

@@gauravjaswal5739 yes, that’s what I’m saying. Indian cars may be well priced, but they are not the greatest quality. Indian government safety regulations are not ones you want to be spread to other countries.

Dude how did u forgot about Mahindra making Podium finishes a number of times in Formula E..

@@cascito yes

YES AND MAHINDRA OWNS SANGYONG OF SOUTH KOREA , MAHINDRA THAR is super hit in India , after booking we need to wait for over a year to get delivery .

And now BSA also

​@@dsp2035mahindra sold sanyong motor to a Korean bus company recently and sangyong is no more as the consortium changed its name.

I have the Previous Model Thar use it predominantly for off roading. It's an awesome off roader with 105 BHP 250 NM torque and has Mechanical Locking Differrential at the rear wheel. I changed the Reat steel leaf springs to Single Carbon fibre composite leaf spring manufactures cin India. This my mail I'd 4x4cj3b1964@gmail.com. I had an imported 1964 CJ 3B

Hi Ganesh...maybe you could submit a "owner vehicle video to TFL" I personally would very much enjoy seeing your Thar👍

Ive seen Mahindra being held together by string going up and down the shitty roads in the Himalayan mountains, if this has any of that dna, it should last you a lifetime.

@Klaus Van Heusen no they have made according to the present Indian standards ..so the new safe enveloping frame , air bags , ABS , zero carbon emissions

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I don't know why they don't launch it in us

The new gen Scorpio will be launched by Dec 2021 may be thats why they are not yet launching it in the US

Just imagine if they launch a scorpio v6 in us

@Allie X well cause mahindra designed it for international market from the beginning .

I heard that new scorpio won't be 4x4..not sure though.

Mahindras diesel's are bullet proof no complaints on the engine.

It recently got a 4 star rating in Global NCAP crash test.

@@ankushbudhiraja9475 In the US and Europe, government regulations require the diesel engines to have emission systems that include the diesel particulate filter. That becomes the Achilles heel for any diesel vehicle that has to meet the strict emission standards. It is not the engines that fail, it is the emission systems that shortens the life of the diesel vehicle or increases the maintenance cost. And also the diesel fuel with very low sulfur decreases its lubricity, so that increases the odds for fuel injection system failures.

@@shmohsin-lasvegas From 2019 its same for India about the DPF.

@@shmohsin-lasvegas it's the same here in India. New vehicles need to meet bs6 emission standards, which is quite similar to euro6.

Yup, beautiful place. And it's pronounced 'taar' rather than 'Thar', isn't it?

@@jenskriek4280 spot on

Even I thought that it is named after Thar desert, but in reality it's not so. There is a goat variety called Tahr sometimes the spelling is Thar, Mahindra Thar is named after that Thar Goat because these Goats are Tahr are remarkably fast and agile in steep and rugged terrain. Their hooves are specially designed for surefootedness, with a combination of hard and soft surfaces to give excellent grip.

@@newzealandthamilan dude they stick the sticker or deser with camels of our thar desert

Interesting

also in India where it manufacture.Mahindra Thar is cheapest 4X4 SUV in India.And in india Jeep wrangler is 4 times the price of Thar. For Example- Thar cost around 15 Lakh Rupee and Jeep Wrangler cost 60 Lakh. Also Wrangler only available in petrol option where as Thar comes with Petrol and Diesel option and most of the people in india prefer Diesel engine for SUV in India as Diesel is cheaper.

You guys have the old version there if i'm not wrong .

@@imviiku correct. It was an end of model batch. I believe there aren’t anymore in sale until the new version gets introduced. Not sure when but I suspect 2023

Did FCA launch a lawsuit in South Africa as well ? ASAIK, FCA's lawsuit only pertained to Australia so Mahindra could with the old grille in other countries if i am not wrong

@@LinuxLuddite i have no idea if any legal action is pending. Doubt it though

Yeah. But there is nearly 2.5 times expensive. When it comes to india. It becomes 5 times expensive.

@@manusid 2.5x as expensive, 5x as expensive...it doesn't matter. Overpriced is overpriced.

@@ryano.5149 True. Just giving an idea how much company is earning more from Indians despite the gap in Purchasing power.

Indian government to encourage manufacturing in India, if you import a car is fully build it will be 125% tax alone. However if you import the car parts and assemble it then you'll be charged the regular taxes on the component based on the material they are made of, rubber plastic, metals etc.

Here in india a wrangler cost 63 lac where a thar cost 9 lac

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In order to have Mahindra jeeps in the US it will need a public outcry and protest, otherwise it's never going to happen, FCA will never allow Mahindra in the US because they know Mahindra will make better and cheaper Jeeps than the Fiat trash that they sell. And other US companies and brands don't want more competition either, and since they're companies with money, they will make the law align with their dirty interests

@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess In a free country FCA would have no say... se la vie.

Here in india when a wrangler gets stuck while offroading, thar helps it to come out!!..thar is an extremely capable offroader!!

India also showing the world how to make jaguar and Landrovers (owned by TATA motors India)

Yes I like jeep also, but considering the price I could get a thar and modify it extreme,,and still my money will be left,,,,, (if comparing to keep price)

@@nareshtanwar5219 True. They are doing a really good job over there.

Both are rated as one of most unreliable cars.

Used to be also needs to adjust for inflation over time but well this is new and still 13000

Some things in America are built using (inpart or inhole ) slave labour e.g. for profit prisons Look it up!

@scissor hanz Union factory workers make around 75.00 per hour with all the goodies added. Huge difference, and that is why America manufacturing has failed. Greed.

@scissor hanz bien dit

@scissor hanz stop spreading fake information, a company as huge as mahindra never ever does forced child labour, the competitors here would have crushed them till now

Still would be around th 45lakhs upward range or 60k+ that is if u can find one for sale

And then why would someone take it off road after paying that! Though enthusiasts can't resist but for a normal person, he'll probably avoid off road!

That’s a lot of Chicken Masala, Tikka Misala and brown rice. Can anyone say Mango Lassi !

@Appu Depends on rich to poor ratio. People like to play it safe here. I don't. And they also treat a car like a family memeber

@@mitchellkasdin1899 what's up?😂

FCA has every right to complain. If they want to copy the Wrangler that closely then they should have to pay FCA to use their design. Just like they paid for the license to produce the original vehicle.

It never was a Jeep wannabe. It was the Original Jeep (basically a Willy's Jeep). Mahindra bought the license from Jeep after the second work war. So it was more Jeep than a Wrangler ever was

@@nsshade Mahindra never copied the Wrangler. They bought a license from Jeep and renewed it after FCA bought it. FCA can't complain as the Thar was more Jeep than the Wrangler

@@LordTechPro Dont forget, Mahindra vehicles are more reliable too than these fca ones.

@@LordTechPro I stated they purchased the license for the original vehicle. But they are now copying the looks of the Wrangler. They either need to pay to use the new design or change it to be unique. You can't just copy other peoples designes and sell them as your own.

@Aditya Aher they blocked the mahindra pickup from fear- Jeep wranglers are over priced these days and have forgotten their roots

Mahindra made a mistake , Pininfarina could have designed a much better looking and performing car than this jeep looking thar...

Ford is Mahindras India partner. They are going to cross launch many vehicles.

Yeah.. like Quality :D

And hyundai & Kia as well.

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Indian Roads = Off roads🤣🤣

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Glad to hear you loved my dream car mate ✌️😍

Mahindra only has license to produce and sell the jeep designed vehicle for India. If they wanna sell it in the US it would have to look different.

Lawsuits

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@@RajKarma they sell thar in South Africa. Mahindra is not selling thsr in UK because FCA will sue them even if they own the rights. And fiat is very big in usa so mahindra will lose.

Wish if they can bring it to middle east on left hand driving

Yeah it's not their fault Jeep changed hands so many times lol

Jeep dna is embedded in it.....and a legit history to back it.

I have found out out they are not realisable so I would not buy one.

I'm sorry but I can't stop seeing it as a copycat. I look at it and I don't see Mahindra, I see a Jeep Wrangler.

Yeah

If the vehicle is large, it becomes less efficient. That is obvious.

As an Indian that's weird to look at american cars. Here, there is extra taxes on even slightly bigger vehicle , so the race & pride of hoarding bigger than your vehicle doesn't start.

@Klaus Van Heusen Hey man! I don't know too much about the details but we only always had the Mahindra Jeep in India. The police used it, in the olden days even the army used it, and common people also used it in the mountains, desert and the rural areas. I didn't even know that Jeep was an American company. They generally do not copy. They have a long list of original cars. I don't know why they are so adamantly copying jeep. I think they need to stop.

Klaus Van Heusen no the license was bought after the war ,although jeeps were built in India as part of the war effort.

Klaus Van Heusen u send bob we send thar, thank!

Sai Kiran Sharma hi yes trade accepted!

Yeah that's right

No, that's the Jimneys job, they retained the solid front axle thankfully they can flexxxxx

TFL - The Foreign Lane. lol If it is cool, they will rule on it. ;)

Mahindra products are not reliable and bad to very bad in quality. Cheap, yes.

Here that car's full features ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hPTLNcCRo4M.html

@@nnns415 Ever heard of Scorpio? That thing can compete a Toyota in reliability.

@@nnns415 are you sure?? Ever heard about Bolero? Scorpio?

@@nnns415 Lol... Come to Kerala... You will see only Mahindra vehicles in Hill areas... Mahindra Vehicles are extremely reliable.

Mahindra Scorpio is another great value, costs only 22,000$ in India!

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@@ruffian9708 Great find. Thanks, looks like an impressive vehicle.

@@remfj40 yea it's a body on frame, tough and durable.. Runs strong even after 500,000 kms if maintained well.

@@remfj40 check the new one out, it isn’t as rugged, but it seems on par with American cars

You predicted the future

50 thousands + bookings and wating period is around 1 years today in india

@@Bhaidostyaar don't be jealous

@@nccbyss how am I being jealous?

They can't due to lawsuits

The 540 was mentioned multiple times in this video albeit mistakenly as the 450.

Toasty absolutely! Probably need a trailer to tow it anywhere outside of the St. George area since it’s not legal to drive on the interstate. I wonder how it would do in Moab?

Diesel freaks and dirt legal both remap the computer, you can get rid of the limiter and increase its power fairly inexpensively. There are others that remap it too. Tons of info out there. Happy trails.

H3R3T1C agreed! It’s a 100% carbon copy of the wrangler and I remember reading that Fiat is suing Mahindra. I’m surprised Mahindra is allowed to produce and sell this in the US!

Steve D it’s a CJ5, not a Wrangler. They’re producing them because they had patent rights to do so for quite some time and only sold them overseas until recently. FCA should have just let them be seeing as they look nothing like any of their current products.

@@MFKR696 The people of India build things proper. They have a much better value system in their culture than those east of the Himalayan mountians. I will absolutely buy one of these vs global opponent. BTW A Roxxor with windshield blinkers is 💯 Road legal in my state . Just like any vehicle on the road, a basic state inspection , and minimum insurance is required to obtain a license plate. Almost Heaven West Virginia ☠️. Talk your state legislature into making your state current with the times. These or any side by side outfitted with the requirements are legal on any public Road inside of my home State." Mountianeers Are All Ways Free"

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Mahindra Scorpio costs only about 22,000$ in India

I seriously doubt that, ifs will never give you the articulation that sfa gives you , that and the light weight is what makes the Jimny an absolute weapon offroad

@@Frog13799 Not to mention the jimny will be more reliable in the long run. Mahindras rust like hell. Ull probably never be able to use it in USA with the road salt. And I wouldn't trust the engine. Japanese ones r way better.

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The Mahindra Scorpio costs only around 22,000$ in India and at this price point no other car gives you this attitude in the world!

@@ruffian9708 for high end model yes

16 lac top model... Rather for a higher middle class guy... 10 lac base model but very less features

Actually it's a joint venture Not 51% of ford

51 of mahindra

@@torque_only4233 51% of joint venture is with mahindra

@Ricky still cheaper than the wrangler according to Nathan's conversions

Probably more reliable than a Jeep 😅

@@munecaeburro lol you'd think that being they built the same thing since ww2 that they would have all the bugs worked out lol

@Dean Toma from the eyes of people who drive vehicles that actually are reliable, jeeps are not very reliable, maybe the most reliable vehicle Chrysler makes but let's face it. Chrysler....... is THE MOST unreliable north American manufacture, PERIOD. sorry brother

The thar is the spiritual sucessor for the willys because mahindra had the license to build the willys in india and they kept on bringing new gens and now this is you can call a wrangler but in an alternate universe

China Virus Jeep sales are keeping FCA profitable. I imagine the Ford Bronco is priced the same as Jeep.

Cal Ryan come on man. China virus? Why are we acting like children

KOOL KIDZZ thank you! (Although, I do agree with COVID19’s comment 😬)

It will cost the same as wranglers if they comply with US or European regulations.

Thar ax version (base model) costs around 9 lakhs which is 12,000$ maybe.

You must try it once . It is a beast on road and off road as well.

Bro its really larger than a jimny. Just see it in real life. Its more built up too like a jimmy on steroids.

Lol much larger than Jimmy

It's dimension would be quiet similar to a 80s Toyota Land Cruiser two door ( FJ40) in terms of volume. Trust me it is no where near small as a Jimny

Its bigger then jimminy

Isen t the Armada a rebadged Nissan Patrol? An off road beast?

It never was a Jeep wannabe. It was the Original Jeep (basically a Willy's Jeep). Mahindra bought the license from Jeep after the second work war. So it was more Jeep than a Wrangler ever was

@@LordTechPro Calm down. I was just referring to the grille. No one can deny the original design of the Roxor grille drew inspiration from the Willys/Wrangler look. The newer FJ type design just looks better to me.

@@Grenyas I was calm, just stating the facts. In fact Land Rover lost a lawsuit against Ineos (where they said it ripped off the old Defender design). Old off-roaders weren't "designed", they were engineered for functionality. Also it doesn't make sense to prevent a company which bought a license to be prevented from selling a vehicle that currently isn't being produced by Jeep. Even I acknowledge that the similarity between the new Thar and the Jeep Wrangler can be an issue, but the Roxor issue was blown out of proportion.

it is more jeep than a jeep since beginning .study history

If Mahindra can bring this to the Philippines, there might be takers for this vehicle here. The one that I see currently available here is the Mahindra Bolero.

I see what you did Thar!

big brain comment

@@shitloveaduck What bronco here

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Any diesel you get in the states will have extensive complicated fuel and emissions devices that render any advantage of a diesel void. Unfortunate but true.

@@geepuller1 yeah true same here too... We transitioned to EURO6/BS6 norms recently...

@@geepuller1 I have a VW with California emissions including exhaust additive(def) automatic transmission 49mpg.. I'd rather not have def.. but still great fuel economy. Great power/torque.. heavy engine keeps front wheels planted around corners. Just wish had manual transmission

@@nikhilt497 there is no difference in performance because they use DEF

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LOL

Indian Thar have only 2.0L mStallion petrol engine (150hp and 350Nm) and 2.2L mHawk diesel engine (130hp and 320Nm). Talks like a new mHawk (100hp and 300Nm) which is in a lighter vehicle with 2WD is coming soon for lifestyle purpose ❤️

Good comments by Shankar Balan ! Well done.

I read Teambhp daily, your name looks familiar sir..

Shankar Balan everywhere in comments of Thar videos ! Pure Thar Love ❤️Keep it going bud

@@parthasarathy5759 its a good vehicle and my experience so far has been pretty good. I ve owned it around 3-4 months now…

@shankar Balan Happy to see your enthusiasm and love ! Spread it 👍🏻Thar Purist

They are pretty much going the posh route without sacrificing the value for money side of things

The bronco is waaaaay ahead of the thar

And costs twice as much as thar if not trice. But again that might not even get certified in US because of safety regulations

@@bobby26050 yeah I know bronco is advance. But this one costs way less so u can enjoy offloading without getting bankrupt.

@@bobby26050 bronco kept breaking in their testing phase. Im sure Mahindra built it right and on the first go

@@ayrusvideolife they will face safety issues even if they outperform competitors 😂

In India, Mahindra is also used as the army vehicles, it have similar war heritage as willys

You're right. Both Jeep and Mahindra own rights to Wiley's design that's why the design similarity between Wrangler and Thar.

Well in terms of changing the grill, Mahindra actually has every right to use their current grill along with theyre old 2018 design, the 2018 design was a five and a half, curved slot grill which is in fact 100% different than a 7 slot parallel grill that Jeep owns the trademark to. So in terms of the lawsuit, that was FCA's original complaint, however they soon found out that a five and a half slot grill is nowhere near a seven slot grill and they began to pursue other aspects of the roxors design to try and win the case. In my personal opinion the judge who ruled in favor of FCA was not only wrong in his ruling but also clearly biased. I mean let's take a look at the facts of the case, Mahindra is selling the Roxor as a UTV meaning they are not even in similar markets, and for FCA to argue that Mahindra is taking away sales from a Wrangler is in fact preposterous because they're not even in a similar class of vehicle. Then every single one of the aspects of the Roxor has been slightly modified and changed in a manner that would in terms of apples to apples make FCA's claim of copyright infringement preposterous. And yet somehow FCA won. Now before we get to far let's just realize that the ruling is actually simply a recommendation and actually there has been no legitimate action taken by the FTC against Mahindra. This is why Mahindra is now pursuing litigation against FCA and I hope they win it because they have every right to sell a vehicle that hasn't been developed by Willie's in over 70 years. (The roxors roots stem all the way back to the CJ2A or as best we can tell that erra) In general I find this whole lawsuit to be ridiculous. It looks similar to a design from over 70 years ago that at this point Willy's does not own the copyright to anything other than the seven slot grill. And so you can imagine the frustration that many of us are feeling in relation to this entire case. You've got a company that comes in, sets up shop in Detroit, starts providing jobs and is now in deep muddy water because the courts aren't fair and unbiased. I mean the facts are there, you can take a tape measure out and you can measure a Wrangler and you can measure a Roxor and you will find that none of the dimensions of any of the components match up. Because one is stemming from a design from over 70 years ago and one is a much newer design. In fact the only thing that a Wrangler today shares with Willie's Jeeps from the past really is the seven slot grill and perhaps axles and other chassis components but that's about it. Either way I'm no legal expert I just find the situation to be ridiculous.

@@DonovanGoodwin Very aptly put Donovan. Even I found the judgement to be, as you said, preposterous. Jeep has a monopoly in the US at present and it sees Mahindra as major competition....

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Mahindra Scorpio costs only about 22,000$ in India

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@@ruffian9708 Don't be cringy idiot scorpio isn't a capable off-road vehicle like thar

@Utsav Sharma so basically FCA is being a bitch because something might take away from their golden goose, the "Jeep"..

That's minus consumer taxes and registration fees. Realistically, you'd be spending well over a hundred grand for the base variant. Options cost extra!

Dang! That is expensive like crazy.

Jeep is more like a lifestyle brand here in India. You can't really enjoy/exploit the off-road abilities since repair bills can easily skyrocket in case of trail damage. Mahindra Thar is a favorite for the simple reason you can actually drive the vehicle without constantly having to worry about burning a hole in your wallet. The old Thar costs around $20k, a more practical alternative to the pricey Wrangler.

This is ex showroom price.On road cost is like 80 lakhs

90000$ but still a 2.0 turbo petrol,smh

I got a 2012 2dr wrangler for 13k just gotta look for the deal

@@thejeepdude7875 Exactly, find a used Wrangler -- even though they hold their value well, they're still less expensive than a Roxor AND are street legal. Bought a 97 Wrangler TJ last year for $7000, and there are deals on Facebook Marketplace and other online markets all the time. The caveat is that you have to know the problem areas to look for so that you don't get a bad deal...

A high end 2020 thar with full options will come around 15-17 lakh Indian Rupees! That’s 20k US dollars! With imports maybe another 5k dollars?! I’m not sure how much is the import cost! So I’m guessing 20-25k usd for a high end full option thar. How much is a 2020 full option Jeep Wrangler in USA? Here in India it cost 80 lakhs. That’s more than 100k usd.

Adithya Rajamani a fully optioned 2020 Jeep is under 70k usd here in the US but you can easily get them for less if you cut a few options

@@thejeepdude7875 is right, depending on where you're looking, you can find some pretty good deals on a TJ or YJ. I live in California but I'm originally from Kansas, so I'm always browsing different sites like Craigslist and FB market place in either area, pretty much just window shopping. I've seen fully built YJs on one tons and 40s with chevy small blocks in them only going for 10k and stock YJs going for as little as 2k.

No. Can't import another car younger than 30 years old.

Roxor is actually older version of this jeep.

Gagandeep Sharma Roxor isn’t street legal right?

@@rc_fist8352 mine is. Depends on the state you live in. Same rules as any side by side here in Wyoming.

@शिरीष ರಾಮಾಯ ರಾಮಯ್ಯ 👋

No, it looks like Wrangler all around & I like it, good kick in the nuts for fca

I would say wrangler and Jimny with a little bit of bronco

Now I would say, Wrangler and bronco smashed on to Jimny

@@palsecam7797 and tons of missing features

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