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The New Sludge Warlock OTK is a Problem 

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@jugularstab
@jugularstab 6 месяцев назад
It's almost like Thaddius has been a problematic design since its inception, and any sort of effect that can reduce costs to 0 is impossible to balance.
@WheezyShotta
@WheezyShotta 6 месяцев назад
It’s mad how everyone’s shitting on that Mage Legendary for not reducing below 1, ie not broken
@pawelmazur8318
@pawelmazur8318 6 месяцев назад
It's almost as if changing cards without thinking through all the possible ramifications might be bad design.
@darklordinateur
@darklordinateur 6 месяцев назад
Funnily enough, Thaddius was probably more reasonably designed originally. I really didn't like its "nerf" (more like rework). Nerfing Slime to 6 mana would have been better imo
@arachnofiend2859
@arachnofiend2859 6 месяцев назад
@@darklordinateur They should have just killed the card. Your odd/even cost cards have +1 attack. Fuck em
@Syleion
@Syleion 6 месяцев назад
how is nerfing slime gonna fix other decks using thaddius ? :D@@darklordinateur
@james-s-smith
@james-s-smith 6 месяцев назад
Pyrotechnician died for this
@sonikwro
@sonikwro 6 месяцев назад
The best comment ever 😂
@WhoStoleMyNachos
@WhoStoleMyNachos 6 месяцев назад
Guys I'm starting to think Thaddius was the problem and not pyrotechnician...
@Narokkurai
@Narokkurai 6 месяцев назад
"President Blizzard, we've intercepted a coded message from the balancing team we keep locked in the basement. We've only managed to partially decode it, but it reads, 'B_N TH_DDIUS'" "Bon Thoddius? What could that possibly mean?"
@Budduh
@Budduh 6 месяцев назад
Dev Comment: "Sludge Warlock is a cool deck that hasn’t landed. We didn’t think there was a good way to make the deck performant without changing the Sludges themselves, but we didn’t want to push them too far and turn this into an OTK deck."
@chiewhoong2020
@chiewhoong2020 6 месяцев назад
You should quote it. It's literally what Dev said on the patch note.
@Budduh
@Budduh 6 месяцев назад
@@chiewhoong2020 there ya go
@DaniTheBunni
@DaniTheBunni 6 месяцев назад
Dw they'll nerf it next patch! And not Thaddius!
@Jacob-gj8ef
@Jacob-gj8ef 6 месяцев назад
Devs are awful.
@user-hn4um8uq7z
@user-hn4um8uq7z 6 месяцев назад
Ah yes, another day in hearthstone) Birds are singin, barrels are flying and Thaddius is still unnerfed) What a great day)
@eiyukabe
@eiyukabe 6 месяцев назад
What a fun and interactive game.
@GrenadeMan9000
@GrenadeMan9000 6 месяцев назад
You can't expect devs to actually understand their game
@Halibel764
@Halibel764 6 месяцев назад
They made a consistent way to cheat mana!
@Tymon0000
@Tymon0000 6 месяцев назад
I like how the warlocks cast mortal eradications on an empty board. Peak hearthstone interaction.
@eclectictoothbrush
@eclectictoothbrush 6 месяцев назад
This is ridiculous. They really need to nerf amorphous slime. That card is a serious problem.
@ElBandito
@ElBandito 6 месяцев назад
Rework Thaddius too.
@WhipLash42o
@WhipLash42o 6 месяцев назад
The joke is that he’s nerfing around Thaddius bro.
@solar6212
@solar6212 6 месяцев назад
I mean if we ban the sludge warlock Its gonna be balanced right?! Lets get to it.
@RealJuiceWrld
@RealJuiceWrld 6 месяцев назад
Every second I go without a Chump upload is a problem.
@haltingpassion
@haltingpassion 6 месяцев назад
Well time to nerf the Barrel of Sludge to 5 mana deal 3.
@ingsve
@ingsve 6 месяцев назад
More like nerfing or banning Thaddius.
@ngolong4070
@ngolong4070 6 месяцев назад
@@ingsvethe meme is doing anything but nerf Thaddius
@gamman1
@gamman1 6 месяцев назад
Nah man watch, they going to nerf sludge on wheels
@crunchytoast6007
@crunchytoast6007 6 месяцев назад
Barrel going to 4 mana would fix it lol. Then it’s not odd cost
@ninenineninenine407
@ninenineninenine407 6 месяцев назад
There is a serious problem when combo can reliably beat aggro. Standard needs more tech like Loatheb to keep combo in check when the devs aren't available to nanny
@croutons4salad613
@croutons4salad613 6 месяцев назад
What genuine aggro deck is gonna run a card like loatheb in current standard tho, like the treant druid he played in the first match doesn't really have room for a 5 mana card just in case they run into a combo deck
@ninenineninenine407
@ninenineninenine407 6 месяцев назад
@croutons4salad613 Any aggro slower than pirate rogue in Wild runs loatheb and nothing in standard would ever be faster than pirate rogue. 5 mana is a fine topend when at worst it forces your opponent to maneuver awkwardly and at best it locks them out of a crucial board clear or their entire turn/combo
@eveazy
@eveazy 6 месяцев назад
@@croutons4salad613 To be fair, aggro druid runs that 5 mana 4/5 draw 2 card, so if they had the warlock in a bad spot at turn 5 and locked out any AOE, probably would win more games.
@PenguinWithInternetAccess
@PenguinWithInternetAccess 6 месяцев назад
There is speaker stomper ig
@theendofthestart8179
@theendofthestart8179 6 месяцев назад
It’s not THAT reliable, and people in legend at this rank aren’t playing the BEST DECK possible or anything
@gorgeouszan
@gorgeouszan 6 месяцев назад
Hey guys...remember when Denathrius came out...and his ability to hit face coupled with Brann made the combo extremely broken....and they kept nerfing other little cards around the combo but not touching the combo at all....and every other broken interaction Brann enabled....and instead of just removing Brann from Standard they kept skirting the issue....Glad they learned from that lesson.
@Metallijosh100
@Metallijosh100 6 месяцев назад
I think I had a brain lag and merged the previous two videos in my head so I was sure this was a re-upload, then I clicked it and heard "uhoh" and immediately knew it was a new one.
@christopherbriggs7699
@christopherbriggs7699 6 месяцев назад
HS players: Thaddius is the issue. HS devs: We hear you, we'll nerf every other card in HS accordingly.
@pawelmazur8318
@pawelmazur8318 6 месяцев назад
Thaddius should be reduce the cost of your odd/even cards by half, rounded down.
@The-Dark-Dwarf
@The-Dark-Dwarf 6 месяцев назад
That's what I was thinking while watching this. Another change they could make would be just to add "but not less than 1".
@tundrazzr3659
@tundrazzr3659 6 месяцев назад
So just kill the card I guess?
@raphaelmarga7753
@raphaelmarga7753 6 месяцев назад
Yeah the design isnt interesting at all
@austinarteaga8222
@austinarteaga8222 6 месяцев назад
@tundrazzr3659 they killed Tony and jailer, why not just keep proving that they don't know how to balance the game
@MEGURMAN
@MEGURMAN 6 месяцев назад
Atp I hope they do kill thad​@@tundrazzr3659
@EDoyl
@EDoyl 6 месяцев назад
Thaddius combos extremely effectively with cards that cost odd or even amounts of mana
@Floegobaby
@Floegobaby 6 месяцев назад
Everything that makes cards go to zero mana is a problem if its not limited to certain cards or a certain class. But even that is risky. I think Thaddius was a super strong card in its original state. The nerf actually made it broken
@Jakeomaniac
@Jakeomaniac 6 месяцев назад
Merry Christmas Chump!
@TheSandman144
@TheSandman144 6 месяцев назад
Just pulled off the combo turn 6 it’s kinda toxic
@PandaEnPleurs
@PandaEnPleurs 6 месяцев назад
Heyyy, just a question, Loken isn't better than thaelan ? Because you summon an 11/11 and draw your minion immediatly for only one more mana 🤔
@MartB-tx5lb
@MartB-tx5lb 6 месяцев назад
Just got pwned by this deck, opened RU-vid and your video is the first hit 😮
@tinylith1603
@tinylith1603 6 месяцев назад
when combo deck beats aggro something has to be fixed for sure
@ItsDKoda
@ItsDKoda 6 месяцев назад
How to assist in fixing thaddius Add a line that says "but never less than 1" Means if something is reduced with say, Thaurissan, it still is forced to have some resources spent
@UtahsBowser
@UtahsBowser 6 месяцев назад
I am struggling to get this to work. I just never seem to hit lethal or do it in the wrong order?
@vitormelo3295
@vitormelo3295 6 месяцев назад
Keep up the good work Chump
@hermiona1147
@hermiona1147 6 месяцев назад
Merry Christmas everyone! 🎁
@EyBoyO
@EyBoyO 6 месяцев назад
Chaddius strikes again!
@randomname9723
@randomname9723 6 месяцев назад
Hmmm I wonder if Thaddius is a problem 🤔🤔🤔
@ivanmartinez498
@ivanmartinez498 6 месяцев назад
alright surely thaddeus gets reworked again after this or banned right?
@NightDandy675
@NightDandy675 6 месяцев назад
Wait, didn't Thaddius use to change polarity in hand?
@Narokkurai
@Narokkurai 6 месяцев назад
Yes but the copy summoned by Sludge is a "new" copy that starts with its polarity set to Odd.
@NightDandy675
@NightDandy675 6 месяцев назад
@@Narokkurai Wow. Didn't realise that. Not having to worry about the polarity is crazy.
@YourTamedLion
@YourTamedLion 6 месяцев назад
This seems better and easier than the druid version
@xordid
@xordid 6 месяцев назад
time for early rotation for Thad o7
@michaelbowman6684
@michaelbowman6684 6 месяцев назад
The three biggest issues with Hearthstone for the longest time has been 0 Cost Cards, Infinite Value Cards, and Alternative Win Conditions. 0 Mana Cards leads to Combo oversaturation until the point where they win faster than Aggro decks, and Infinite Value Cards are a tool for Aggro decks to utilize to never run out of resources and keep doing things long after they should have run out of cards which punishes Control decks for trying to grind and out resource their opponent, and Alternative Win Conditions are for Control decks to address the Infinite Value problem by giving them a way to end the game before it even becomes a problem, they just need to stall long enough until it becomes active, which results in them being able to beat Aggro decks but they get shafted even harder by Combo decks. This is not a very well-balanced game of Rock, Paper, Scissors. Sometimes Paper somehow ends up beating Scissors by dismantling it before it can even do anything.
@ShuckleShellAnemia
@ShuckleShellAnemia 6 месяцев назад
My guess is they’re going to make Thaddius only discount other undead.
@nabyynhs6343
@nabyynhs6343 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for the deck, I took the legend
@Discerned_
@Discerned_ 6 месяцев назад
Time to ban amorphis slime to directly remove the problem 😅
@GenericMedusa99
@GenericMedusa99 6 месяцев назад
i just got turn 5 otk by this deck i would like to thank the devs
@lucjanl1262
@lucjanl1262 6 месяцев назад
Didnt you just have leathal in the last game after playing finley?
@user-iy6rp1zt1l
@user-iy6rp1zt1l 6 месяцев назад
finley dosent draw anything there
@lucjanl1262
@lucjanl1262 6 месяцев назад
Yeah, i don't know what I was thinking those 18 hours ago
@TbSaysNo
@TbSaysNo 6 месяцев назад
tip: use acolyte of pain instead of finley
@johnholland6958
@johnholland6958 6 месяцев назад
You should put second slime in an etc so you have access to steam cleaner
@johnholland6958
@johnholland6958 6 месяцев назад
Also this is degenerate and you should feel bad for playing it
@silverhawkscape2677
@silverhawkscape2677 6 месяцев назад
And now every deck is trying to Counter them with Plague, Warrior Armor or Druid Aggression.
@Viktor14485
@Viktor14485 6 месяцев назад
I have crafted this deck, seems like it is just luck on how good your card draw is.... And I dont have that great draw, I get stuck with the 1 cost spells every game
@ElBandito
@ElBandito 6 месяцев назад
Fun and interactive. /s
@VegasSharp
@VegasSharp 6 месяцев назад
You make it look so easy lol. Maybe my draws are just bad.
@tudormarin7739
@tudormarin7739 6 месяцев назад
Combo winter boys
@windwalkerrangerdm
@windwalkerrangerdm 6 месяцев назад
Just simple rules of design: Don't make cards that make things cost 0. And be careful making cards that make things cheaper.
@DarkHentaiDragon
@DarkHentaiDragon 6 месяцев назад
If I had a nickel for every time warlock broke standard.... I'd have less than a dollar but quite a few nickels still
@Satherian
@Satherian 6 месяцев назад
Don't mind me - just waiting for all the morons to flood the comments with "This deck has a sub-50% winrate, so actually it's not a problem that it's massively toxic and unfun to play against."
@upellward
@upellward 6 месяцев назад
I guess I will just not play until Thaddius rotates since they seem to refuse to fix him
@WeeWeeJumbo
@WeeWeeJumbo 6 месяцев назад
hi Chumbo your friend, Jumbo
@noooname2568
@noooname2568 6 месяцев назад
Back to playing solitaire HS
@Heatranoveryou
@Heatranoveryou 6 месяцев назад
wins game: "ok well that was probably one of the worst games of hearthstone ive ever played."
@juliosoto6315
@juliosoto6315 6 месяцев назад
I think he is talking about the mirror, how interactive the game is, just the fact it doesnt matter what happened, the first one that gets the broken OTK wins, no strat.
@Heatranoveryou
@Heatranoveryou 6 месяцев назад
@@juliosoto6315 i know the context, its still funny.
@maxb2244
@maxb2244 6 месяцев назад
Cards should always cost mana.
@caiofiuzaseixas9027
@caiofiuzaseixas9027 6 месяцев назад
Wait, but pyro was...banned...
@ajamesrichards
@ajamesrichards 6 месяцев назад
Reduce the cost of cards to 1, not 0. Silly devs
@kybalion5205
@kybalion5205 6 месяцев назад
Never say "shoot my slime" again😅
@user-sc8oh9hk7e
@user-sc8oh9hk7e 6 месяцев назад
They need to ban thadius till the end of season
@AWanderingTylerT
@AWanderingTylerT 6 месяцев назад
I'm O and 5 with this lmao
@croutons4salad613
@croutons4salad613 6 месяцев назад
Prob not piloting it perfectly, or your in an mmr where everyone's playing super aggro l
@AWanderingTylerT
@AWanderingTylerT 6 месяцев назад
yeah i think im just too dumb, time runs out on that otk turn so fast lol @@croutons4salad613
@katnumb1692
@katnumb1692 6 месяцев назад
I literally uninstalled the game after losing on turn 6 against this deck, Standard mode having an OTK on turn 6 is a complete joke I used to play ranked Wild but got tired of seeing bs broken decks in wild so i switched back to standard, but it seems like there's no difference between these 2 game modes lol
@ObscureJester
@ObscureJester 6 месяцев назад
it is surely frustrating and thaddius IS the problem but this deck is abysmal and simply can't win unless oppo draws so bad that concedes before you even close the otk.
@6BlitZo9
@6BlitZo9 6 месяцев назад
Did you play this deck? You consistently win on turn 6 or 7, the main weakness is the animation time which can make you lose when you had lethal
@ObscureJester
@ObscureJester 6 месяцев назад
@@6BlitZo9 yes. Between opponents out-tempoing you and constant risk of burning cards unless you get perfect curve/draws, you often end up being forced to go all in and have no sludges or not sufficient board clears to go face.
@mgs85
@mgs85 6 месяцев назад
@@ObscureJester Sounds like a skill issue. Just sit there and do nothing until you draw the combo. 75% wr.
@nicolascamaratta
@nicolascamaratta 6 месяцев назад
Bruh sludge on wheels needs a ban already
@guilhermeabrao1378
@guilhermeabrao1378 6 месяцев назад
I just gave it a try and literally lost two games only because of animations and rope. If the stupid animations and time weren't there, I'd have won.
@kanabekasEU
@kanabekasEU 6 месяцев назад
went couple games against dk, always lost, bad card draws looking for combo, so deck really luck dependable, and atm 90% decks run against dk, deck need improvements
@invisibledog93
@invisibledog93 6 месяцев назад
Don't mind it at all. Keeps control in check
@YourTamedLion
@YourTamedLion 6 месяцев назад
Keeps Aggro druid in check too😂😂😂
@HyperMine
@HyperMine 6 месяцев назад
how is this a thing btw xd
@infantilemewling6801
@infantilemewling6801 6 месяцев назад
YAY!
@christianevald
@christianevald 6 месяцев назад
well. I'm not as good a player as chump but this deck really wasn't consistent for me. the meta still feels very aggro and this deck has low amont of response to that
@brunocapssa
@brunocapssa 6 месяцев назад
game is unplayable until they fix this... great video though!
@fabioantoniosenorellipadil2896
@fabioantoniosenorellipadil2896 6 месяцев назад
No!
@NeotroC
@NeotroC 6 месяцев назад
Tbh unban Pyro Tec. and Ban Thaddius.
@MrRasslor
@MrRasslor 6 месяцев назад
uploading games where u have Thaddius and Slime in your hand, arent representative. Been playing this a bit and while i suck at the deck, its nowhere near as consistent as you make it out to be.
@gavsterdb
@gavsterdb 6 месяцев назад
I played someone who played this very badly earlier. Always fun to observe
@andrewbart2515
@andrewbart2515 6 месяцев назад
death knight is the absolute worst matchup for this deck
@djentile7773
@djentile7773 6 месяцев назад
This would piss me off to die to lol
@Nightmare333.
@Nightmare333. 6 месяцев назад
let's go in the next patch they will ban sludge 🤡
@OwenHooper-mv4fm
@OwenHooper-mv4fm 6 месяцев назад
Play The Jailer. 2 TJ
@bradmcbride2302
@bradmcbride2302 6 месяцев назад
Every second opponent is playing this toxic crap. HS not worth playing till Blizz fixes this. This is at diamond rank anyway
@Jacob-gj8ef
@Jacob-gj8ef 6 месяцев назад
I hate warlock with a passion. Every iteration has cards with absolutely no counter. Sludge warlock literally wins on turn 5 without playing a single card beforehand. How did they not nerf this a long time ago? Change the cost of card so they're not all odd. It's ridiculous.
@Xgya2000
@Xgya2000 6 месяцев назад
I think a reasonable nerf to the Arcanist would be changing its Battlecry. "Your spells can't damage heroes this turn" So you can aim spells at their face all you want, their damage will be zero. It weakens or disables a lot of kills from hand, something Blizzard said they wanted to do away with.
@jinyaolu829
@jinyaolu829 6 месяцев назад
basically anything except nerf thaddius
@Xgya2000
@Xgya2000 6 месяцев назад
@@jinyaolu829 How does that have anything to do with it? I'm merely saying that spells that can deal face damage without targeting face break the intent behind the Arcanist even though they don't break the text. As far as that other card is concerned, revert the Thad changes and unleash him on Wild.
@PenguinWithInternetAccess
@PenguinWithInternetAccess 6 месяцев назад
Arcanist is not a problem
@user-bw6sm9nt9p
@user-bw6sm9nt9p 6 месяцев назад
Mobile code?
@WheezyShotta
@WheezyShotta 6 месяцев назад
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@ProjectMathesar
@ProjectMathesar 6 месяцев назад
This deck requires at least four specific cards in your hand within the first 5 turns. If you're missing even one of them, the deck doesn't work.
@HectorConCarne.
@HectorConCarne. 6 месяцев назад
Yet the bots get the same exact perfect mulligan every time.
@Roqxxx
@Roqxxx 6 месяцев назад
This Otk is way better with the Robot that tosees everything Out of Your Deck that didnt start there even playable in this Deck with the 11 mana 11 Hand cards card
@oritu3282
@oritu3282 6 месяцев назад
omg
@nigrivon
@nigrivon 6 месяцев назад
It's not that much of a problem. It's very susceptible to disruption and other otk decks can be equally fast. It also needs practice, you can easily mess up your go off turn as animations are really slow. But yes, if you get good draws, and opponent is slow or doesn't play disruption, you will have some free wins.
@Cyanixful
@Cyanixful 6 месяцев назад
There's no other deck able to OTK on turn 6 bro
@Purplexity
@Purplexity 6 месяцев назад
???? this is a consistent turn 5 lethal (if you have coin) almost every game in standard
@nigrivon
@nigrivon 6 месяцев назад
@@Purplexity no, it's not really that consistent, play 50 games with it and see yourself
@Satherian
@Satherian 6 месяцев назад
​@@nigrivon Damn, the "but the deck is sub-50% winrate" comments are already here
@nigrivon
@nigrivon 6 месяцев назад
@@Cyanixful well you could do turn 5 otk with nature shaman or rivendare druid event though they most often go off later, same here
@chriscastle1629
@chriscastle1629 6 месяцев назад
Hot(?) take: I like Thaddius. I miss the days of shirvallah OTK paladin, malygos druid, topsy turvy priest. I also hated the Stormwind meta enough to quit the game for several months, so i don't just find combo metas inherently fun. It's possible he does need a nerf and I'm ok with that if so. I just think people are reacting the way they do when they get OTK'd by any deck. It's just the mana cheat cards that are really exacerbating the problem, but they aren't the card that actually "wins" the game, so they don't get the heat.
@frozen_spider
@frozen_spider 6 месяцев назад
Cards lik Thaddius is a problem because they're incredibly hard to balance. I'm somehow sure Blizzard balance team didn't think about this specific OTK when buffing/nerfing Barrel of Sludge, since they said they "didn’t want to push them too far and turn this into an OTK deck". And it will be like that with any new card added, or card cost changed. Until it rotates to Wild, and there forever. That's a huge design space limitation.
@PenguinWithInternetAccess
@PenguinWithInternetAccess 6 месяцев назад
I agree on otk decks being fine, but a card should not be able to initiate so many of them, zspecially that early in the game
@NextTycoon
@NextTycoon 6 месяцев назад
Sludge isnt that good. It's literally 50/50
@paulelkin90
@paulelkin90 6 месяцев назад
What’s up with RU-vidrs not knowing mobile after years
@KhaledIron
@KhaledIron 6 месяцев назад
I still don't think they need to change thaddius, the bigger problem rn is paladin which is really annoying
@crunchytoast6007
@crunchytoast6007 6 месяцев назад
There can be 2 problems at the same time
@patrickvestal2725
@patrickvestal2725 6 месяцев назад
This is why this game is dead and will stay dead. Zero fun, broken decks and devs who have no idea what they are doing.
@soradu78
@soradu78 6 месяцев назад
delete thaddius
@fatcoommies
@fatcoommies 6 месяцев назад
Classic holidays meta incoming, let's focking go!
@lennymost167
@lennymost167 5 месяцев назад
BECAUSE OF THAT DECK I QUITT HEARTHSTONE. Ballanced