The New Tube Train For London is Here! 

More like a train enthusiast

whilst salivating and jerking off too.

@@ace-paidinfull5240 tube nerd is the word

I Said the same thing.😂😂😂

@@eirho lol hes not just into tube trains tho

🤣

Ah yes, the so-called "Mumbai Option".

ah man - i wanted to use an off-peak fare during rush hour

​@@1258-Eckhartdon't those people ride on the roofs?

@@MACROPARTICLE Only for a few seconds.

I was wondering about that. Probably a fourth rail, too? Or is is a second third rail?

@@geirmyrvagnes8718 I would assume fourth rail

@@sabersz Reminds me of one of Geoff's RU-vid friends presenting a monorail powered by third rail.

@@sabersz Yes, fourth rail is the correct term.

Actually they fitted a 5th and 6th rail because the track is dual gauge (1000 and 1435 mm) and already had a German style conductor rail. You can see all of it at 3:53!

Um, it should be in 2024 the New Tube Train for London!

I think the buttons on the doors are used at termini when waiting to leave. On the circle line at Hammersmith you have to push the button if the train is waiting.

How wide was it between the seats?

How tall is the train interior from floor to the peak of the roof? Could you stand up? How tall are you?

Is the deverily goes to London via Channel tunnel between calais and folkenstone?

That's exactly what I think, also because of the air conditioning, so that the air circulates better and doesn't mix with the warm outside air.

Like on the London Overground trains.

Also I notice when they terminate at Arnos Grove, the driver will check each carriage and shut each carriage of doors manually to stop people getting on a train that's coming out of service. I'm guessing without those hidden buttons at the side of each carriage, the driver will need some way of manually closing doors?

Agreed. When district line trains terminate at Ealing Broadway, the doors open then close after people disembark. The doors can be re-opened by the button. This saves on the air conditioning.

​ @OdarrCZ The mainline stoppertrains called sprinters we have in The Netherlands also close the doors after a few seconds, even while stationary, accompanied by a flashing roof light and beeps for the same reasons. But there you always use the buttons to open the doors. So my guess is, is it the same for these metrocars that you have to use the buttons to open the doors anyways, or do you only get a few seconds to board if it all goes automatically?

Lol yes. I noticed that as well. As if Geoff was going to break a secret or something lol 😆

Looks pretty basic to me

That's such a logical explanation, I can't think it isn't the reason!

It most likely is the same system that the S Stocks use where the doors are shut if kept open for a certain duration. More than likely it's an energy saving feature.

Yeah a good example is also with the S stock trains. They tend to close after a while when waiting at stations for a while and the buttons remain illuminated.

Seems logical, there is a big difference between doors opening and door release. It makes sense to simply release the doors at open air and less-used stations at the extremities of the line, to enable passenger operation. Saves a lot of wasted energy on the air con apart.

I also think that the driver will be able to unlock the doors (which them has a green/yellow light around the open button), but it will open once someone presses it, like on most NR mainline trains and the EL. And why are the buttons to close the doors gone on most new (NR and LU) trains as they are useful to allow heating/AC work effieicently. It also used to be the case where doors can be (un)locked, but has to be opened manually as the case for GWML (to Reading) and GEML (to Norwich)

Lol yea ITV London in a report by Rags Martel… saw that also

As it was designed to be as light as possible, silencers were probably considered as dead weight.

Sounds the same like the Siemens Inspiro Warsaw metro

Some nice touches are... nice. We should have nice things, and we can.

Perhaps. It's complicated.

I was gonna say the same. Shorter carriages means less big of a gap to mind on curved platforms (theoretically).

Whar really determines the size of 'the gap' are the distances of the doors from the ends of the carriage, the overall length of the carriage, and the radius of the curvature. It's true that the doors of a shorter than standard carriage will be closer to the edge of a curved platform than those of a longer carriage, unless the doors are sufficiently farther from the ends to nullify this advantage. In this case I would expect not (ie the gap WILL be smaller for the shorter carriage doors. However...the overall length of the train is determined by the lengths of the station platforms, therefore (unless passenger capacity were to be reduced - and they say that in fact it has been increased) the entire new train is no shorter than an existing train. This means that the non-intermediate carriages will in fact be longer than a current standard carriage, and (unless the doors were moved closer to the ends, which they do not appear to be) the gap at those doors will actually be larger than it currently is. So, "swings and roundabouts" as usual.

@@christopherwright8388 all carriage will be shorter, as there are more of them in the same overall length of train. Or at least, this is what I understood from the video.

absolutely

Hey cool just noticed this too. I checked satellite view on Google Maps and usually it's just a normal electrified track. They had to add the 3rd and 4th rail specifically for this.

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Bro RU-vid commented and no one noticed 😂

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6 replies is crazy

RU-vid lol

Haha, so true.

Haha, yeah imagine them changing to the bakerloo line😂😂😂😂

Looooo as a fellow london dweller this comment. is gold🤣

Please enlighten me to the joke?

@@LuckyFlanker13 The tourists get on one of these trains at Heathrow, ride in relative comfort to Piccadilly Circus, and then get on a 72 stock ...

I didn't realise it was actually at the old air base. When I was a kid whenever we drove past Wittering my dad would slow down so we could try to spot any Harriers taking off or landing.

Fabric seats should be banished. Plastic is much easier to clean and therefore hygienic !

I believe a sore bottom can also be had at Piccadilly Circus. I'll get my coat.

​@@AM-mv6roviruses live longer on plastic seats than fabric ones.

But it is the past. Germans excel at train building. Be happy that London gets good quality underground trains

Me too! I'm shocked a government entity actually delivered on something they told us we'd get! Doesn't happen often!

Even I was surprisedddd

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Can't you just put like some sort of laser thingy at the front of a current train and have it measure where exactly there will be clearance issues with a bigger train? I'd assume we have this tech by now? Just curious.

Just send the train through and fix the bits that get knocked off easy

Ah! just the person! Am I right in thinking that with less bogeys on these new trains the carriages will be further out on tight corners than the old stock?

@@ephphatha230 I don't think its that easy. Its a very expensive solutionl

Would you believe that the concept video for these New Tubes was uploaded to the TfL channel in 2014 as well? It's now unlisted but I have it saved to my phone still. Crazy to believe it took a decade to go from design to reality, but they look AMAZING

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Perhaps. It🎉 depends on the geometry of the trains on curves. Sounds like a bad decision. They should have kept to the dimensions of the 1973 stock which fits the infrastructure. They have created a problem and risks unnecessarily. Getting this stock into service could mean expensive alterations to stations and other structures.

From what I understand it's the best and most efficient way to fit all the aircon gubbins on the train.

I had that thought. A good example is also on the new Blackpool trams which use Bombardier Flexity’s, but had to use a similar concept to this to handle some of the extremely tight corners

@@henrybn14arSeems like perfect sense to me, in an era where accessibility is important. The underground is 150 years old and so it needs to evolve. As they said also, getting rid of carriage ends frees up additional floor space for passengers. On a busy day those articulated sections can have 5 or 6 people on them where there used to be a gap between the two carriages

@@Mikeb1001 Having already been in Paris for a long time, the space in the gangway is little used because it moves a lot (tested myself). Logically, the cars move independently of each other.

New Bakerloo line trains are a long long way off

@@LondonEmergency999 I should hope they at least get some work done on them, I always feel like stepping into the 1960's (smell and all).

@@RicardoMusch Definitely no money for a refurb now the 1992 stock refurbishments have started

⁠Yep on the Central Line and W&C Line.

The 92 stock is also an oven and has had windows problems.

Siemens has specially built a new factory for new orders in Goole, but TfL is currently skint.

I hope by "dire replacements" you mean "in dire need of replacement" and not "replacements that are dire"

Hopefully the government will full it finger out and buy the Bakerloo line these trains as well, an Central Line as well from 2035. The bigger the order the smaller the cost, an having all three on the same designs would allow for great efficiency savings I imagine.

I am not sure how well it will work on the tube lines. Simply adding air con to trains will not be very beneficial. There is not much space & limited ventilation so nowhere to grab fresh air from or dump the stale hot air. The cut & cover lines have much more ventilation available.

@@TheRip72 because of the open carriage design they have now been able to install cooling systems underneath the train that was not possible with the old design. The open design also allows better airflow also helping keep the carriages cooler.

Im pretty sure they wont be able to run the Aircon underground doe to heat buildup in tunnels

​@TeckPanda yeah, But that just is transferring the heat, Cooler on the train, But where is the excess heat going to go, Probably it will make the deep level stations warmer 🤔

@@Markus117d And they are seriously warm already. My wife, who was at the time a fit and healthy 25 year old, fainted on a deep level station one summer's day.

You made models? That’s actually pretty cool.

:) 🤣

Until the aircon fails.

Well then you're screwed as there's no windows to open.

Especially because the Siemens Aircon in most German trains is really unreliable

walk through means it's also easier for beggers and busker. A common sight on S stock

With you on Bakerloo Line trains. They shld be next

Why do you say the 1972 stock haven't stood the test of time? I'm genuinely curious

@@S1lverArr0w Every report I've seen about the1972 stock says it's now getting unreliable and subject to ever more frequent breakdowns. To be fair on it, it was only ever ordered as a temporary stopgap measure (for the Northern Line originally, I think) and was never intended to be in use anything like this long; even for stuff that is not intended to be temporary, the normal lifespan of train stock is normally estimated as an average of about 40 years, and the 1972 stock is now 51. But contrast the 1973 stock is still pretty sprightly for its age (it was actually introduced starting in 1975 I think, so it's not quite 50 yet), and I understand it's being replaced primarily because of accessiblity problems (no wheelchair spaces) but also for other reasons e.g. air conditioning. All this of course applies equally to the 1972 stock, but that doesn't have to serve London's main airport! The Bakerloo Line is therefore not considered such a priority. That's about all I know, but perhaps others more knowledgeable may be able to say more.

Maybe they will move the ‘73 stock to the Bakerloo line!

@@Shalott63That might mean that the 1973 stock goes to the Bakerloo Line…

Germany only has third rail for the three true U-Bahn systems, and their exact systems are all a bit different. Even within Berlin you have side and bottom contact I think

Don’t worry the bakerloo line trains won’t go anywhere’s

@@muhammedsaiful-haq7971 Yes they will.

Yeah

@@muhammedsaiful-haq7971they might use the 24 stock to replace them

@@jamesuk1704 my understanding is that there are contract options on more of the 24 stock to potentially replace existing stock on the Bakerloo, the Central and the Waterloo & City... it mostly depends on TfL having the money available for replacing those trains

Was totally wondering how far I'd have to scroll to see his name come up 🙂

@@justinhayes6911 Haha, how far was it?

@@aeronautic2374 not far at all! :)

@@justinhayes6911 Nice! I spent all of the video wondering where I'd heard that music before!

thanks Matt, very kind!

@@geofftech2 No problem. I was meant to come and see you in York in 2020 but it was cancelled due to covid, sadly.

I mean the walk-through design and the "floating" intermediate cars are quite different! (only the 1st, 3rd, 5th, 7th and 9th cars have wheels!)

Technically they are different but London Underground stayed with most of their aesthetics

I was thinking that. A complete change could have been fun, but there is a lot to be said to update old designs. Especially one that is do iconic

For sure, but from abroad, they have the same iconic shape. Compare that with the metro line 6 in Paris, it recently changed and it's completely different @@RoamingAdhocrat

@@cheeseparis1 Tube trains are a very tight fit in the tunnels. They really couldn't be any other shape. And the three windows in the front are dictated by the need for an emergency door in the cab front - again because of the narrow gap between train and tunnel wall, making evacuation through the side doors impossible.

Same here. Bit weird, I'm more excited about London tube stock than new NS stock. Groeten ;)

Another Dutchie here - I think I rode all types of tube stock that are currently on the network when I last visited London back in 2018. (And whatever was running on the East London Line, for good measure.) I would certainly like to go back at some point and ride these. As for NS stock: I rode the ICNG. It’s decent enough, but feels more like a fancy Sprinter that just happens to reach 200 km/h. Having a table was nice, though.

Just wait guys for that Wilders will do to your country.

I really noticed that when returning from Bangkok in February a few years ago. It was roasting hot there & comfortable in the airports & plane, then the doors opened at one of the stations on the Picc & the freezing air hit me.

Bakerloo line is a oven tho

@@Leojw10another reason to only open doors passengers will actually use - keep the air conditioned air in! You don’t want too hot OR too cold air getting in.

At least you get fresh air not recirculated aircon air.

a huge upgrade? Do they?