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The Northern City Line with RMTransit 

Geoff Marshall
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The weird line from Moorgate up to Finsbury Park feels like it's been unloved and lost forever, and you're travelling along an abandoned line and stations - even though it's not! And as RM Transit was on a visit to London, I thought I'd take him along to show him around all the stations ...
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@geofftech2
@geofftech2 11 месяцев назад
Should also acknowledge the Moorgate Train Crash from 1975. If you've never seen this excellent documentary on the subject, it's well worth a watch: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iem5zLPniTk.html
@MikeyCondon-kv7cy
@MikeyCondon-kv7cy 11 месяцев назад
Any updates from avantu
@MikeyCondon-kv7cy
@MikeyCondon-kv7cy 11 месяцев назад
Any updates from avanti
@iainlindley
@iainlindley 11 месяцев назад
The memorial on the corner of Finsbury Square is worth a visit too.
@matthiashartge5520
@matthiashartge5520 11 месяцев назад
Yeah, the fact this crash happened there and under such strange, never fully elucidated circumstances, makes the whole Northern City Line even more eary.
@puffinfat
@puffinfat 11 месяцев назад
Hi Geoff I was at your event last week! Thanks for the story of the old 455s and also answering my question about it!
@RMTransit
@RMTransit 11 месяцев назад
Nothing like a Thameslink train with a front exit on it to get me excited! This was fun!
@notverydeep9726
@notverydeep9726 11 месяцев назад
Following up on your comment on the Class 66 at Drayton Park - just occasionally, locomotives actually work down to Moorgate on test trains, see this video of Class 73s on the Northern City line in 2021: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4Q5pDVHTPXk.htmlsi=o1iAb878ObE3FxRl They look somewhat odd down there...
@JoshJames-yf7be
@JoshJames-yf7be 11 месяцев назад
Yeah
@marcleslac2413
@marcleslac2413 11 месяцев назад
If you had to compare wich, train beteen the 717 and Toronto Rocket for better looking front hatch, wich would you choose?
@teecefamilykent
@teecefamilykent 11 месяцев назад
Two of my favourite youtubers, hurrah!
@memofromessex
@memofromessex 11 месяцев назад
I'm glad you endured the Northern City Line.
@smokeyeyes__
@smokeyeyes__ 11 месяцев назад
Considering Reece makes a lot of videos on the best public transit in the world, seeing his reaction to London's worst commuter line is so much fun lmao
@lordgemini2376
@lordgemini2376 11 месяцев назад
I wouldn't call it the worst but sure
@smokeyeyes__
@smokeyeyes__ 11 месяцев назад
@@lordgemini2376 the definitive 'worst' line in london is a matter of opinion (i mean tbh i'd rather be on the northern city line than the central in summer lol) but it's certainly up there
@jamesjross
@jamesjross 11 месяцев назад
@@smokeyeyes__ "worst" you're all so spoiled in LDN
@smokeyeyes__
@smokeyeyes__ 11 месяцев назад
@@jamesjross 😅true, i don't even live in london anymore lol
@officialmcdeath
@officialmcdeath 11 месяцев назад
The scent of those deep level passages is certainly distinctive \m/
@gh1851
@gh1851 11 месяцев назад
Either way, 156 or 158 steps at Essex Road is the equivalent of a 15 storey building. Unusual video Geoff. But I liked it! Can't wait for the next one 👍
@jeff__w
@jeff__w 11 месяцев назад
Reece somehow acts a lot more natural and relaxed than he does in the videos on his own channel. Thanks, Geoff, for an engaging collaboration.
@JamesFFiT
@JamesFFiT 11 месяцев назад
Reece very relaxed when he does live stream q&a’s, maybe it’s just when he records!❤
@kyordy
@kyordy 11 месяцев назад
It’s the jet lag.
@ricequackers
@ricequackers 11 месяцев назад
I love how Reece is impressed by the dual-voltage system, describes Drayton Park as "nice", and Geoff dismisses the station as "you have no reason to come here" while an enormous football stadium lurks right next door! As for Essex Road, if you told me it was a front for a spy agency's outpost, I'd completely believe you.
@tomthornton6259
@tomthornton6259 11 месяцев назад
Yeah, might have something to do with him being a spurs fan... Can't go acknowledging the enemy now!
@paulharvey9149
@paulharvey9149 11 месяцев назад
There is, but note the poster at 08:58 saying that Drayton Park station is closed during matches... I guess the stairs being the only exit would be dangerous with lareg impatient crowds - some of which might be tempted to cross the tracks and a wall or two...
@ricequackers
@ricequackers 11 месяцев назад
​@@paulharvey9149Oh I didn't realise that! I assumed that it was one of the stations used for match days alongside Arsenal, Holloway Road and Finsbury Park. Perhaps some work on improving access and capacity would help shuttle fans in and out?
@Shalott63
@Shalott63 11 месяцев назад
@@ricequackers It would need an awful lot of work to make it safe for match crowds. As well as narrow stairs it has a long narrow island platform (with access only at one end) - very like Claphams North and Common, except in a cutting rather than in tunnel.
@romanbaranovichi5375
@romanbaranovichi5375 11 месяцев назад
@@paulharvey9149it’s open during concerts though
@moritzl7065
@moritzl7065 11 месяцев назад
Aw man, Essex Road... I have that exact feeling when I visit that station. When you exit the train, you feel like you're transported back in time to the 1990s...the signage, the lights, the livery and the design in general looks like it hasn't been renovated for 30 years. And yes, that eerie quietness that you experience even in the middle of the day, absolutely amazing and surreal. My last visit was sometime in 2018 or 2019, when they still ran the old Class 313s down the line and had adverts that look like they date back to 2006. Even more nostalgic back then. What I can't believe wasn't shown was the network map on the _other_ platform (only the Southbound version was shown at 10:20). The northbound one is much bigger as it shows the entire Great Northern network up to Stevenage, Welwyn Garden City and beyond...all in that retro 1990s Network Southeast design. Absolutely amazing.
@robertbutlin3708
@robertbutlin3708 11 месяцев назад
My mother-in-law spent some time there hiding from the V bombs towards the end of the 2nd World War. I took here there a couple of years ago. Hardly a person off peak.
@matpk
@matpk 11 месяцев назад
@@geofftech2why anglophone countries so bad at high speed rail
@sea80vicvan
@sea80vicvan 11 месяцев назад
This line feels like a transit museum of sorts that is still used for daily commuting. As for Reece's suggestion at the end, i think it would be a great idea for Geoff to visit Canada and explore the transit systems in Montreal and Toronto, just to get his impressions on them compared to (real) London.
@caw25sha
@caw25sha 11 месяцев назад
Reece will be in the next Guinness Book of Records as the only person to ever describe Drayton Park as "nice", although being Canadian he was probably just being polite.
@tomthornton6259
@tomthornton6259 11 месяцев назад
Haha I always used to think it was cute, and pretty too when there are hanging baskets up. Was a nice contrast between the sprawly uneasyness of Finsbury Park, and the eery dingyness of the underground section (especially pre-refurbishment). Felt like you'd briefly entered a village halt, as long as you didn't look up at the buildings towering above.
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 11 месяцев назад
But just look at that nice, blank wall!
@Nooticus
@Nooticus 11 месяцев назад
it is nice though.
@mattpotter8725
@mattpotter8725 9 месяцев назад
It actually does look nice from street level, the station building at least. I've never gotten out here, despite passing through many times, and never thought it would be anything other than an Essex Road type entrance!!!
@starbuckthethird
@starbuckthethird 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for shining a light on Essex Road, it's one of my favorite London stations simply for being an eerie, spooky step back in time. And with Reece as an added bonus!
@jontownsend8090
@jontownsend8090 11 месяцев назад
This line gives me a creepy feeling, it always has done. I remember the first time i ventured into this railway abyss, it left its mark in my conscience.
@jonathanirons231
@jonathanirons231 11 месяцев назад
You know the old joke: "Elevator" "Lift" "Elevator. We invented the damn things." "Yes, but we invented the language."
@bartsimho1192
@bartsimho1192 11 месяцев назад
Interesting to hear Reece on about the rolling stock. I feel his view is very informed from a City Transit perspective (as is understandable) and slightly ignores how far the trains actually go demanding that they have seats (Although maybe ironing boards)
@JeSuisRene
@JeSuisRene 25 дней назад
Indeed, the trains go as far north as Hertford and Letchworth even… longitudinal seating would be completely inappropriate. I like the compromise with the 700 and 717s… 2x2 but still enough standing space for busy times.
@goatgamer001
@goatgamer001 11 месяцев назад
The Thameslink, like a lot of other lines, is a hybrid commuter -regional radial line. So having seats is important for long trips where the train is emptier
@jayharper1894
@jayharper1894 11 месяцев назад
This line just isn’t the same without the sound and smell of the 313’s! I once loved this line it felt so nostalgic.
@RAY13527
@RAY13527 11 месяцев назад
Gotta Love The Northern City Line Its Like Another Line On The Underground
@176visuals
@176visuals 11 месяцев назад
The best collab in transit history doesn't exi-
@VF11986
@VF11986 11 месяцев назад
This is something I've actually been waiting for. Geoff Marshall and RM Transit collaboration. Please do more
@timholmes499
@timholmes499 11 месяцев назад
When you got to Drayton Park I thought 'What? no Essex Road!' I take this line weekly to get my children to Hornsey. It's a great line imo and Essex Road is as close to a disued station as you can get. Love it.
@michaelmiller641
@michaelmiller641 11 месяцев назад
If you think the northern city line is spooky now, you should have experienced it in the days of Lt pre 1938 standard tube stock! Essex road was so quiet and echoey. You could hear the train disappearing in the tunnel towards Drayton park for ages!
@egratis2367
@egratis2367 11 месяцев назад
I used to buy a Red Rover tickets during the school holidays back in the sixties and go off and explore London. I lived in Finsbury Park and on one occasion took the opportunity to travel on the Northern City line which then terminated underground at Finsbury Park before the platforms were repurposed for use by the Victoria Line. I felt that there was something unworldly about the whole line especially Essex Road Station and the strangeness included the small tube trains running through the big tunnels. The line was so little used that at times I would be the only passenger on the train and the stations were deserted. I can identify with the feeling that you had that you were somewhere you weren't supposed to be.
@stephenpegum9776
@stephenpegum9776 11 месяцев назад
As someone who lives in Barnet, that whole line is incredibly useful for getting into many parts of central London & is certainly much quicker than the Northern line. PS : And I have in the past used both Essex Road & Drayton Park stations ! 😎
@becsterbrisbane6275
@becsterbrisbane6275 11 месяцев назад
Whoa, Essex Rd Station is definitely the creepiest station! A perfect Halloween video, Geoff, ha!
@raymondwang3110
@raymondwang3110 11 месяцев назад
The crossover we needed and the crossover we deserved. Great stuff!
@christianschmidt6338
@christianschmidt6338 11 месяцев назад
The philosopher and the nerd. Always so much fun!
@holygooff
@holygooff 4 месяца назад
Two nerds rather, but okay :D
@riddypr
@riddypr 11 месяцев назад
I travelled into Essex Road station a few months ago since I was in the area (plus I had never done it before and I was curious since I've travelled *through* the station before and was interested in how it still has its old Network SouthEast signage) and the vibe was INCOMPARABLE. It really feels like a haunted tunnel and sorts; no other underground station in London feels like it. Kinda surreal experience but I loved it.
@DavidShepheard
@DavidShepheard 11 месяцев назад
I'm looking forward to a RMTransit video about how to improve the Northern City Line.
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 11 месяцев назад
Nice to see the Geoff x Reece Collab! Such fun 👏🏽
@andywarne963
@andywarne963 11 месяцев назад
I rode on this line on the first day it reopened under British Rail. I remember being amazed at how much they had done to make it as least like a tube line as possible by stripping it bare. The other amazing thing was riding the first BR sliding door trains. The class 313 were space-age in comparison with anything that had been on BR before. They originally had very garish interiors with the whole door vestibule in yellow. Also air suspension for the first time. The whole experience was very refined as the track had all been relayed to a very good standard, much better than anywhere on the tube.
@srfurley
@srfurley 29 дней назад
The 313s did seem very modern, but they certainly weren’t the first sliding door trains to be operated by BR. There were the 502 and 503 in Liverpool, the Blue Trains in Glasgow, the 306 Shenfield units, and I think the 506 in Manchester.
@christopherwaller2798
@christopherwaller2798 11 месяцев назад
Personal view is that an upgrade to Drayton Park to allow match day use (at present it is closed due to fears of overcrowding on the island platform) would be well merited. A more pie in the sky idea would be to extend at the south to London Bridge and turn the line into a mini Thameslink, but that would probably end up costing billions...
@miked351947
@miked351947 11 месяцев назад
Upgrade to Drayton Park well overdue as it's the nearest station to Arsenal's Emirates stadium. Surety Emirates has enough money to easily cover the significant funding needed.
@Jwm367t
@Jwm367t 11 месяцев назад
I once used Drayton Park in 2019 to actually go to an Arsenal match and it wasn't closed! Though, It was a Thursday night in the Europa League group stage game so nobody really attended... Was very handy though and I got something ticked off on my list
@paulcassidy8130
@paulcassidy8130 11 месяцев назад
@@miked351947 Why would they do that when there are other stations available within a short walk of the stadium? Hardly a good use of their capital.
@johnmurray8428
@johnmurray8428 11 месяцев назад
The legend about Victoria line is true. Back in the early 70s we often met North American visitors who found themselves going in the wrong direction. Most saw the funny side of it! Good sports.
@Alan_Watkin
@Alan_Watkin 11 месяцев назад
Watching Geoff always makes me want to come to London (halfway across the country i might add) and just ride the tube all day.....
@mplsmike4023
@mplsmike4023 11 месяцев назад
Go for it! Life’s too short, etc.
@ymoot
@ymoot 11 месяцев назад
Seeing you two together always makes me happy. Much needed in these difficult times. Geoff trip to Toronto when?
@hendongooner7383
@hendongooner7383 11 месяцев назад
When I used to work in the City - near Moorgate; used to use this line to get to Finsbury Park for the evening matches at Highbury to see the Arsenal. Very useful.
@aidenscott2418
@aidenscott2418 11 месяцев назад
I remember my first year living in London, discovering the Northern City line at Highbury/Islington by accident. The platforms adjacent to the Vic line seemed almost abandoned or stepping back in time. It’s funny how often they refer to the vibe as being spooky, pretty spot on😂
@Mark.Andrew.Pardoe
@Mark.Andrew.Pardoe 11 месяцев назад
Whato Geoff, Didn’t you show Reece the lovely Egyptian style cinema at Essex Road? A truly entertaining bit of architecture.
@HenrysAdventures
@HenrysAdventures 11 месяцев назад
I've always been fascinated by this line. I made a video at Essex Road when the Class 313s were still running and just before the platforms were refurbished. It was an even more mysterious station back then!
@ulicnik24
@ulicnik24 11 месяцев назад
Reece and Geoff,, in the same video what a great combination.
@MrGreatplum
@MrGreatplum 11 месяцев назад
Essex Road is definitely on my list next time I’m in London! Reece looked bewildered walking through it!
@amethyst7084
@amethyst7084 11 месяцев назад
Geoff and Reece (RM Transit) together on RU-vid 🌟👏🏾 The Northern City Line from Moorgate - one of the lesser-known lines in London, which is wonderful to travel on, especially on a Summer day 🚇 Really interesting how this section of line has been integrated into the London Underground map at times.
@OfficialTrainboy2598
@OfficialTrainboy2598 11 месяцев назад
Love Drayton Park for the power changeover! Great video Geoff!
@officialmcdeath
@officialmcdeath 11 месяцев назад
Also the overgrown depot tracks opposite the platform - reckon the service pits are still there \m/
@MervynPartin
@MervynPartin 11 месяцев назад
You should definitely take a trip to Canada, Geoff. Both Toronto and Vancouver have excellent, but different, transport systems. In between them are some great places to visit.
@watson956
@watson956 11 месяцев назад
Oh, I would say Toronto's transport system (TTC & GO combined) is underdeveloped, rather than "excellent". Freedom of info: I've lived in Toronto and York Region since 1980.
@MervynPartin
@MervynPartin 11 месяцев назад
@@watson956A fair point. I was speaking as a visitor from Britain. My wife and I made use of the subway and the easy interchange to the buses impressed us. Perhaps not so excellent to a Toronto resident like you, but it was far better than some of the cities that we have visited elsewhere in the World. Some of RM Transit's videos have covered both the good and not so good aspects of Toronto, but hopefully, Geoff Marshall may team up with him there and do a report. The cities in Canada that I have visited are Sept-Iles (taxis), Toronto (Subway & buses), Niagara (People Mover), Banff (walked), Jasper (walked), Kamloops (walked), Vancouver (Skytrain & trolleybuses) and Victoria (walked).
@5filliou
@5filliou 11 месяцев назад
Toronto's system -- ah, bad to mediocre for a city of that size. Canadians settle for less and still have an idea that public services there are great.
@watson956
@watson956 11 месяцев назад
@@MervynPartin I'm glad you experienced so many places on your trip!
@DevynCairns
@DevynCairns 11 месяцев назад
Toronto has farther reaching transit than Vancouver (though it's also a more sprawling metro) and great bus service, but at the same time, the subway doesn't really feel like it has great coverage even though the lines are long. Frequencies are only ok and the TTC kinda sucks at communication - in stark contrast to something TransLink actually does about as well as much better transit cities Vancouver itself is a very small city with a lot of other municipalities as part of the metro area, and outside of Vancouver itself, bus service has good coverage but poor frequency. We don't have any rail service to speak of to many of the farther suburbs unlike GO. We have a very radial rapid transit system and using more frequent / BRT-like lines to close some loops and make the whole thing less radial is an ongoing battle I don't think transit gets quite the love it should from government here despite how many people use it Really enjoyed Montreal's métro. Stations are kind of a blast from the past but the service is quite good and the layout is well suited to Montreal and non-radial. Found bus service to be meh but kinda the same as Vancouver, very busy
@koolkile
@koolkile 7 месяцев назад
Great video! I lived briefly between Highbury & Islington and Essex Road in 2019. As a newcomer to London I had no idea about this line or its history, I lived in a ground floor flat and could hear the rumble of these trains at night time but couldn’t - in my naivety - figure out which tube line was running south to north up Essex Road! Then I visited Essex Road station and got into one of the old class 313s, heavily graffiti’d of course. the whole experience was so surreal. Felt like I’d been transported back to the 1990s or even earlier! Great that the old signage is still in place, I hope they leave it be.
@stevieinselby
@stevieinselby 11 месяцев назад
The Northern City Line really is the line that time forgot, you half expect the tannoy announcements to be done by Rod Serling. Essex Road is a bizarrely quiet station for how densely populated the area is ... maybe given how close it is to central London, and the fact that trains only go as far as Moorgate before needing to change, residents prefer high frequency buses that have better penetration across Zone 1.
@ianmcclavin
@ianmcclavin 11 месяцев назад
During the last few years of London Underground operation, Essex Road was closed at weekends. Although opening daily from the takeover by BR, the entire line was without a Saturday or Sunday service for many years from 1986. This was only reinstated 2 or 3 years ago .
@peterdawson2645
@peterdawson2645 11 месяцев назад
Anything on this line always reminds me of journeys out to Wood Green (BR), since renamed Alexandra Palace, when friends had a flat there after we all left University. The line had only just been transferred to BR and the main line trains had replaced the tube trains. The blue and grey full sized trains looked oddly out of place even though the stations had been designed for that size rolling stock. Memories of the awful crash were still strong - this was around 77 to early 80s. But I've never got off except at Moorgate, the former Wood Green and possibly Finsbury Park. Surprising that you didn't mention the huge stadium looming over the line which you can't access on most match days!
@botheredparent
@botheredparent 11 месяцев назад
From 1978 until 1991 my regular commute to the West End from Hornsey was either by W3 bus or BR from Harringay West, in both cases to Finsbury Park to the Victoria Line. The Northern City Line in those days was plagued by a technical issue with the switch from third rail to overhead and back, and the fact that train crews starting from Moorgate had to sign on and off their shifts at Kings' Cross. It was often quicker to walk! I sincerely hope it has improved.
@AFCManUk
@AFCManUk 11 месяцев назад
Hang on a minute.... You mean to say you actually got out at Drayton Park, went up to street level, and Reece DIDN'T notice the bloody great Football Stadium next door? Geoff, you are a Spurs fan and I claim my £10. 🤣
@markcf83
@markcf83 11 месяцев назад
Why would Geoff acknowledge the mere existence of the Woolwich Trespassers?
@AFCManUk
@AFCManUk 11 месяцев назад
@@markcf83 The same way we barely acknowledge the existence of the Middlesex Deniers :D
@JONNYWM
@JONNYWM 11 месяцев назад
MARSHALL!!! You should go to Toronto and then ride ‘The Canadian’ all the way to Vancouver. 4 days 4 nights it’s an incredible experience. Maybe take Reece with you. Then you can meet up with @downielive in Vancouver.
@AidanMmusic96
@AidanMmusic96 11 месяцев назад
I used to use the GNR to visit family who live near Bowes Park - it wasn’t even busy on the evening rush hour! The interchange to Northern line at Old Street is particularly spooky at night. Best cross-platform interchange for me is either Finsbury Park Vic/Picc or Baker Street Jubilee/Bakerloo.
@mdhazeldine
@mdhazeldine 11 месяцев назад
Yes! Always nice when 2 of my favourite RU-vidrs get together. Interesting choice for a video. I rode the line last year, but didn't get off at Essex Road. My only beef with it is that they took down or covered up the NSE signs on the long strip above the platform. They removed it's main quirky feature! Although it's nice that they left a few remnants at least.
@lufferov
@lufferov 11 месяцев назад
"this train has too many seats" said no commuter ever.
@pcackett91
@pcackett91 11 месяцев назад
Old Street definitely gives me vibes of some European transit networks I've been on. Might have to visit for the nostalgia!
@donrevie721
@donrevie721 11 месяцев назад
Wow ..2 Transit superstars sharing the stage... this is a very nice surprise. Both cerebral, playful, informative and insightful. You're both fantastic ...yes, like others are saying you have to do more collabs.
@nikistimelapses
@nikistimelapses 11 месяцев назад
Last time I was in London in 2022 I stayed right next to Drayton Park station and to be honest I actually liked the station :)) The station building looks lovely and gives off more of a village vibe and down on the platform everything is so calm
@udowinkler3743
@udowinkler3743 11 месяцев назад
I’ve just come back from a trip to London. If I’d known about this line I would have travelled on it. Maybe next time😀 Great clip 👍
@paulyoung9216
@paulyoung9216 11 месяцев назад
i live near to essex road station and it really is eerie and quiet,could just sit there and read a book in peace
@nomadMik
@nomadMik 11 месяцев назад
The pedestrian tunnel at Essex Road Station reminds me of when I found a tunnel at Sydney's Central Station, which served a strange assortment of suburban, intercity and interstate platforms. 'It feels like we're not supposed to be here' indeed. I believe it's gotten closed to the public in the recent (beautiful) renovations of the station, where they've added some metro platforms… but not to that tunnel!
@RobertOosterbeek
@RobertOosterbeek 11 месяцев назад
I've had my stays near Manor House and only now starting to appreciate the fact people got closer to there instead of the city center.
@rubberduck3y6
@rubberduck3y6 11 месяцев назад
Great to see a Reece collab!! Maybe Reece could take Geoff to London, Canada just for the weirdness?
@GManPT
@GManPT 11 месяцев назад
I remember my first time in London in 2011, passing by Essex Road station and how intrigued I was because I was unable to find that station on the tube map :D Great video as always. Thanks Geoff!
@BrainW33a
@BrainW33a 11 месяцев назад
I remember travelling on this line (when it was the Northern Line) in the 50's and 60's when travelling between Enfield Chase and Moorgate via Finsbury Park. My main recollection is how dingy the platforms were compared with true underground ones, and the plain trackside walls. At times we could travel via Kings Cross York Road/Platform 16 and the widened lines.
@johnlastactor
@johnlastactor 11 месяцев назад
Essex Road. 12 years my local stop. I loved that stop. It was my 'lazy stop' if it was raining (or hungover). Otherwise a 15 minute walk to Highbury and Islington. That walk down the stairs at the platform was such a pain though.....
@notsmoothsteve
@notsmoothsteve 11 месяцев назад
Definitely come to Toronto! If you show up for the opening of Line 5 a.k.a. the Eglinton Crosstown LRT, I may even cross paths with you when I'm shooting video of it for my channel :-) I wish I could tell you when that would be but it has no opening date after having been delayed so many times that we should show it in purple on the map.
@LostsTVandRadio
@LostsTVandRadio 10 месяцев назад
Yes, it's a weird underworld all of its own - made spookier by the lack branding, advertising and signage. Not quite London Underground, not quite British Rail, not quite Network Rail, but definitely a little bit Network South East. The ultra-bland colourless class 717s also add to the other-worldliness of it. It's such a strange space that my wife and I actually got lost in Highbury and Islington station the other day.
@ADAMEDWARDS17
@ADAMEDWARDS17 11 месяцев назад
My favourite seacret of this line is at Moorgate where you can still see the tunneling shield in place for the never built extension to Lothbury. Lothbury is also the airvent at the end of the Docklands Light Railway, so there is an alternate reality where it all got joined up and we would have Welwyn Garden City to Canary Wharf trains!
@paulcassidy8130
@paulcassidy8130 11 месяцев назад
As someone who lives in Hertford and who worked in the City and then a stone's throw from Old Street station for years it feels odd to have this line described as "unloved and lost"; it was my regular commute and it was always busy and it still is at peak hours. And I still use it regularly, usually to access the fantastic connection to the Victoria Line at H&I. I only got out at Essex Road recently for the first time; what a useful access point it is for Islington. Now that probably is a fairly well kept secret. But I'm not a fan of the Class 717 trains. They may be capacious, as you describe, but they aren't very comfortable and the decision not to include any toilet facilities was a bad call.
@paulharvey9149
@paulharvey9149 11 месяцев назад
I'd never thought of Drayton Park being similar to Primrose Hill, but you're right about their general similarities, even though they were built by different companies (I think). Essex Road is weird - the platforms are so narrow, and there's not a single advertisment panel anywhere - which rather re-inforces how few people ever go there! I trust you did explain to Reece how it was intended to be part of the Northen Heights scheme and was therefore considered part of the Northern Line? That used to puzzle the hell out of me, given the lack of southern connection!
@benjibatch
@benjibatch 10 месяцев назад
This video made me realise that no passage way on the tube echo’s like the passage ways in this video, something that I’ve never appreciated before
@Islington_Express_Bus
@Islington_Express_Bus 11 месяцев назад
Yes, we need Geoff in Toronto!
@Gremlins_Modelling_Mayhem
@Gremlins_Modelling_Mayhem 11 месяцев назад
Hi Geoff, thought since you started at Morgate, you would have visited the Morgate memorial, also at Drayton Park, you Forgot to mention what's just around the corner 😊
@panayiotisconstantinides3027
@panayiotisconstantinides3027 11 месяцев назад
I used to travel on this line almost every day when I went to university at Moorgate. Then, when I did my LL.M. at Westminster University, I would change onto the Victoria Line at Seven Sisters. Although I found the high-back seats the Class 313s were fitted with when WAGN refurbished them (sort of), neither they nor the 315s then used on services out of Liverpool Street were my favourites.
@michellebell5092
@michellebell5092 11 месяцев назад
I went to Essex Road recently, I was doing the three “Home Counties “ - Kent House, Essex Road then Surrey Quays ( to then go to Surrey Quays Odean , I do all the Odeons too);
@Wayne-x1w
@Wayne-x1w 10 месяцев назад
I remember using that line when it was the old 319/2 stock on the line and they were filthy. Also the tunnels exiting Essex Rd and Old St were never LED lit, so it was proper dark in the tunnels, added to the no ticket barriers back in the day and it was WILD after dark.
@SAMUSUMA
@SAMUSUMA 11 месяцев назад
The legendary collab we always knew we needed.
@davidwright9013
@davidwright9013 3 месяца назад
Geoff's videos I tend to watch on the phone as they are fairly short, but I watch a lot of RU-vid on the TV, very much like a streaming service these days. But I'll be happy to watch whatever Geoff chooses to do :)
@gerrymckenna4878
@gerrymckenna4878 11 месяцев назад
Another interesting / entertaining video. One omission was the site of the small Underground carriage shed on the west side of the station when Drayton Park became the terminus of the Northen Line due to Victoria Line construction. These were shut when the line was transferred to British Rail .
@andyilsley2448
@andyilsley2448 10 месяцев назад
Brilliant video chaps - my family know it as the spooky line long may it remain that way 😱
@bethmcdonagh1680
@bethmcdonagh1680 11 месяцев назад
I used to live on the Essex Road so I've used the station quite a few times. It must be the eeriest station in inner London...
@robwhitton4830
@robwhitton4830 11 месяцев назад
This video inspired me to travel on the Northern City line today, from Essex Road to Moorgate. Thank you
@khidorahian
@khidorahian 11 месяцев назад
transport nerd collab of the century on my favourite Line!
@peteristvanfi5454
@peteristvanfi5454 11 месяцев назад
Another great video Jeff! You missed Finsbury Park Station, but it's also interesting how the Northern City Line platforms became Victoria Line platforms.
@guillaumemaurice3503
@guillaumemaurice3503 11 месяцев назад
Thank you guys for sharing this video that was very interesting.
@Puckoon2002
@Puckoon2002 11 месяцев назад
Geoff you didn't mention that the "greenery" at Drayton Park hides the remains of the old depot, the major remains being the service pits, which where for checking/working on the underside of the old rolling stock. And yes Drayton Park is where the class 717 Great Northern units change between 25kv AC overhead and 750v DC third rail traction power.
@OFFICIALDJFLASHBACK
@OFFICIALDJFLASHBACK 11 месяцев назад
Great collab! Love Reece's videos on transit around the world, especially the Mexico City Metro. (A bit biased since CDMX is my home away from home) Geoff, would recommend you check out the Metro if you ever make it to CDMX. Thanks for the content fellas!
@clangerbasher
@clangerbasher 11 месяцев назад
It's nice when the big channels like RMT have time for the little guys!
@dannycorder3355
@dannycorder3355 11 месяцев назад
I discovered Essex Road about a year and a half ago, on the back of a hideous hangover. What a surreal station that is, inside and out. Great video as ever!
@MXTH_OFFICIAL
@MXTH_OFFICIAL 11 месяцев назад
new geoff video!! my day has immediately become 10x better 😃
@MrBlopshotted
@MrBlopshotted 11 месяцев назад
used to love commuting from Drayton Park. It was like my little secret - but not so fun when the trains were so full that you had to splay your feet to get on board!
@southcalder
@southcalder 11 месяцев назад
Nothing like a bit of NSE signage to cheer up your day.
@jayfielding1333
@jayfielding1333 11 месяцев назад
The sentimental part of me really wishes it was part of the Tube still. It's always captured my interest so I loved this video.
@eddiewillers1
@eddiewillers1 11 месяцев назад
Used to take the NC line from Finsbury Park to Moorgate in the mid/late 1990s - most mornings, it was so jammed that folk would crowd into the rear driver's cab (until they removed the external valve to open that door).
@Batters56
@Batters56 11 месяцев назад
I can confirm people still used to get into the middle cabs on the 313s on the frequent occasions the trains were messed up well into the 2010s
@SimonHarling-Willow
@SimonHarling-Willow 3 месяца назад
As an Arsenal fan, I love Drayton Park because it is right on the doorstep of the Emirates Stadium. OK, it's not open on matchdays but when your coming for stadium tours and other things like that, it is perfect. Another thing, it that I love right next to this line (further north) so it is perfect for me.
@SmthPositive_
@SmthPositive_ 11 месяцев назад
Loving these RM crossovers
@AndreiTupolev
@AndreiTupolev 11 месяцев назад
2:35Even though it isn't a Thameslink train, that question's a valid one. The thaneslink trains are very much designed for commuter services, with high density and very uncomfortable seating, but they work as far as Brighton, Bedford, Peterborough etc so people have no choice but to use these uncomfortable trains
@sihollett
@sihollett 11 месяцев назад
The three stations you list (and Cambridge, Rainham, etc) have other services so you don't necessarily have to have the ironing board seats.
@RobertoPenn
@RobertoPenn 11 месяцев назад
Having lived in Haringey this was always a godsend whenever I got in at London Bridge. Also a great refuge for people taking noz as well it seems
@srfurley
@srfurley 29 дней назад
Some things you didn’t mention to Reece: There used to be a depot at Drayton Park. The stock transfers where ‘38 stock trains were hauled by battery locomotives over the non-electrified and otherwise disused Northern Heights line to get them to and from this branch. If you want it to be really creepy tell him about the. Moorgate disaster. I still feel uneasy when running into platform 9 at Moorgate on the odd occasions that I use this line.
@lemons2001
@lemons2001 11 месяцев назад
I live on Drayton Park and commuted using this line for a few weeks (I had to go to London Bridge for a train and it’s quicker to go from Drayton Park and change at Moorgate than to go from Arsenal). I actually loved the Thameslink trains, plentiful seats and the feeling of knowing a “secret” line. Only thing is it’s more expensive and the trains are infrequent (but it’s not too bad for me because I live in the flats just the tracks!) I do also enjoy the Drayton Park station! Was really nice to see it mentioned!
@DanTheGamerAndTrains
@DanTheGamerAndTrains 11 месяцев назад
RM Transit's First Appearance since the tottenham court road elizabeth line video
@Peter-gv6vf
@Peter-gv6vf 10 месяцев назад
This is my local line to town, and i have a very love/hate relationship with it. The train just sounds weird and ambles along at a very slow pace. Upsides; space, air con and cross platform interchange at highbury for the victoria line
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