The Northwestern Hazing Allegations Are Exactly What Gives Football A Terrible Name | Pat McAfee 

The coach saying he had no idea it was happening for 15+ years is just as bad as him saying he knew it was happening. He either lying or just plain incompetent.

Those saying that it is woke and soft to be against this kind of stuff really needs to take a good hard look at themselves in the mirror and ask yourself, "why the hell am I standing up for the right for people to sexually assault someone just because it's in a locker room?" Because that's what was happening hear. Forcing people to get nude and perform sexual acts against their will. If this was your daughter or son would you be ok with this happening to them?

The best journalism school in the country... lawyers got him suspended, journalists got him fired.

There’s no way the coach wasn’t aware of this, he’s been there 17 years and probably just kept going with “traditions” thinking he’ll never get caught.

This really made me like Pac even more. Bro just was straight up not having it.

That this was happening not off campus, not just in the locker room, but on the field and at their "Camp Kenosha" which got banned shows that the coaches and staff HAD to know this was going on. Any player or former player who witnessed this or participated in this is to blame for their coach getting fired if he truly didn't know because someone should have spoken up. I'm sure someone did and got Shrek'd. The fact that no current or former player is willing to go on the record and explain why the allegations are "exaggerated and twisted" while admitting what did happen is damning as well.

Letting this happen as a coach is embarrassing and a terrible look, but pretending you don't know what's going on in your locker room is pathetic and humiliating.

670 The Score in Chicago had a bunch of NW people on today, some where past players. The general sentiment was that Fitz carried over the culture from the previous head coach, Randy Walker, who he was an assistant to. Both of them had a "water makes you weak" kind of mentality. For those who remember, Walker was the head coach when a player died due to dehydration and heat stroke during training camp. NW is also the same school that had suspend its women''s soccer team in 2006 for extreme hazing as well.

Imagine if they knew how the military is run 😂

Dude went 1-11 last year. He should've been fired for that alone.

"You get a Northwestern game on your TV, you're bummed about it." Pat just casually roasting Northwestern.

Appreciate your perspective, means a lot hearing it from NFL players when there’s a lot of old school damaged people whining for the fired coach and playing every card to ignore/downplay/dismiss what happened to the players. If you’re pro hazing, go see a dominatrix and keep your fucked up kinks to yourself and consensual partners

Hazing was huge when I was in the military, in the infantry. Leadership ALWAYS knew it was happening and pushed for it. To the point of everyone having a phone. A lot of times they were taken away or people were too scared to get them out. If you’re already being assaulted, you’re not just going to whip out your phone? This stuff is disgusting and has no place in football or the rest of society

Sad to hear this crap still goes on…

I love PAC but he was dead wrong at the end. I just looked it up and like half they roster is black. I think I counted 30 black players 😂 Tbh I can’t even see how any D1 football program could survive without black players lol

Pat Fitzgerald played at NW The hazing issues probably have been going on when he played there 20+ years ago and continued

I’ve said it before but I’ll say it again. As a former D3 equipment manager fwiw, even we don’t have our players pack gear or pump the balls or do laundry, we were in the locker rooms and around players every second of the day. The coaches had to have known in some capacity or even equipment staff/trainers/managers would know about some of the stuff going on in the locker rooms. As a non-staff member even I would’ve noticed some of this sickening behavior and would’ve been complicit in allowing it to happen. Too many people had to have known to even begin to count. Hell, we even practiced in the indoor football facility of Northwestern before our games the next day sometimes. It just doesn’t make sense how long it was allowed to happen if this was common knowledge.

The E60 is about to be fire.

The players defending the coach makes me believe 100% he had a part of this.

I didnt know Thad Castle transfered from BMS to fuckin Northwestern😂😂. Also its crazy looking back at oreo race and imagining Northwestern were doin similar things..like wtf is a Naked Bear Crawl😡

However, the biggest crock of this whole situation is that the coaching staff were all retained but the HC was let go. BUT, the report said the HC didn't know it was happening but the rest of the program it was well known...ie, the assistants and staff...who were retained. That makes ZERO sense. If you're the administration and you're supposedly taking this seriously, you should get rid of the whole crew.

if losing is a sign of player hazing someone should look into Nebraska

You guys should listen to the interview Michael Wilbon who is a Board of Trustees member on Northwestern had on the Waddle & Silvy show on ESPN 1000 Chicago talked about the situation today it was informative from a guy on the inside.

I played on a D2 program where nothing like this happened. We had fun, and yes some would consider it hazing now but the older guys would make us Freshman stand on a cafeteria table in front of the volleyball team, take our shirt off and sing “I’m a little tea pot”……obviously you didn’t “have” to do it but if you did, you were quicker to be accepted by the older guys. I did it, I still think it was good clean fun. But I am sure that someone would blow the whistle on this today if it were to happen.

Even if the HC didn’t know he deserves to be fired. It was his job to know. So either he didn’t do his job right or he tolerated (worst case: encouraged) the alleged practices.

He was probably hazed as a student there and got used to the environment. And even benefitted himself in some ways by keeping his mouth shut about it as a student. Humans learn to do these things to each other. It’s an unhealthy environment. Ultimately a coaches number one job is to create a safe environment for their players. Ultimately it’s an administrations number one job to put people in leadership that that are able to create a safe environment for their students. This is a University failure from top to bottom.

A lot of closeted guys in these comments defending touching other men as a “ritual”. Either they got touched and are in denial or they be liking men botty cheeks, it’s alright bro it’s 2023 just be you😅😂

I was fortunate to not have experienced too much hazing in my football career besides ceremonially being burnt with hot knife in high school. Think about that statement…😂

Maybe it took so long to get out was because over half of the ESPN reporters are Northwestern Alum, and they were uncomfortable asking questions for fear of losing access.

"How has this not got out?" I honestly can't fathom how people don't understand the embarrassment of this, as well as, the power dynamics of a mentor, coach, or leader over a young and impressionable kid(s) who thinks this is their only chance at their dream. Same zero thought statement people said about Penn State and the Olympics gymnastics team.

Saying Northwestern has “never won” isn’t accurate, that comment at the end of the video. There have been 10-win seasons, bowl victories, etc. But yeah, they have been “ass” the past few seasons.

This story points up the extent to which ordinary fans (and some members of the media) don’t understand what goes on behind the scenes within major college football programs. I don’t even understand why hazing goes on at college fraternities.

Why is it school newspapers and not law enforcement investigating this?

I absolutely love packman’s constant “wut” inputs 😂 Such a great addition to the crew! Fits right in for sure.

New york Yankees don't allow long hair or facial hair... That's not racist

The only hazing that should be acceptable is making rooks carry some bags or get practice balls.

I remember in college when I joined my fraternity, the school was watching us like a hawk for hazing. This would have been fine if they treated the sports teams equal to us as they openly hazed their freshmen in busy areas around the school.

There's a difference between hazing and sexual assault. Hazing, I think is fine, gotta pay your dues. But sexual assault is not okay.

To say Pat knew i think is a bit too far. College kids dont show adults everything. They have a lot of time to figure out ways to hide it from the adults. I havent heard anyone claim they told Pat Fitz about it

Ya but how many other coaches new about it . If you are firing pat Fitzgerald THEN YOU BETER BE FIREING THE REST OF THE COACHES

Look how long it took to expose Sandusky at Penn State. In closed cultures it's easier to get away with things. The easy threat of "you'll never play again if you talk". It does surprise me that this happened at Northwestern. It being an elite academic university that can sometimes claim it's difficult to compete against the football mills universities where academics are a distance 2nd in terms of importance to the program. But, so it goes. I hope they clean things up and the Deans of other universities should be insuring crap like this isn't hiding behind their closed doors.

Pretty easy to tell from these comments which ones participated in hazing

If Fitz didn't know, it was a willing ignorance.

I admit that I've not been on the inside of football teams above the high school level, intentionally and that was decades ago. The coaches of my high school were drunkard dirt bags and I wanted nothing to do with them and they cultivated players that were dirt bags. I've met a few decent football players and coaches (not talking talent wise but as good people) but the majority of football players and coaches I've met personally and had any amount of contact with were at the bottom of their souls basically bullies. That doesn't mean the majority of players and coaches are scum just because the majority of those I've met are. To the question of why you haven't heard it before now. A lot of bullies are careful in their choices of victim, isolate and mentally break down their prey and manage to convince their victims that no one would believe them as well as let's face it, how 'manly' is it to be the guy complaining about being bullied? How many of the victims were subject to the threat of their scholarships being pulled if they bitched about it? How many could afford to go somewhere else if they quit the team? How many of the players seeing this behavior were pressured into participating to be equally guilty of it to keep them quiet.

Love It Pat The Pat McAfee Show Bro

Northwestern is a trash football program, all this arose likely just to break that contract.

Setting a grooming standard isn’t raciest lol saying that is ignorant the Yankees make there guys cut there hair and shave there face the military does that as well my guy everything isn’t about race

think about how long it took for Penn State to come out. This is not shocking, it's a trend. Its a trend that needs to stop

I think Fitzgerald is lying when he said that he had no idea. Like there was definitely a couple people that told him or the coaching staff. If you’re presenting yourself as a “player’s coach”, a guy that any of your player can go to for guidance or help, then you should have been aware a while ago. And if you weren’t, then maybe you’re not as much of a players coach as you thought. But considering how long he’s been there he definitely had of known something happened

It’s crazy. I work at in the Legal Affairs Office at LU. The football program here has to eliminate all vulgarity. They are super afraid of being accused of hazing so from edited rap music during drills to coaches not using cuss words at all, they (LU) don’t want to get accused of anything. Better safe than sorry. NW coach will get cashed out. NW will have to stretch their legal muscles to try and argue for cause. LU has a type of clause that allows for them to breach and not have to pay. But it’ll be interesting to watch.

No comment on the hazing but Fitzgerald coaching record was only 51% winning and he was there 17 years? I know Northwestern is not a football dynamo but 51%. and he is owed 42 million? WOW!!!!! Give me that contract!

Supposedly there’s evidence and accounts since from 2007 and some articles say this could be far as the 90s…

Pat: Allegedly Pacman: wut 😂😂 Pacman adding what's into entirely inappropriate times or incorrectly is better than when it's done correctly

Now imagine this being a ______ coach like Colorado’s.

PAC Man up his level when they mention cutting of the hair.

Both former & current players have corroborated the allegations! So did the independent investigation that submitted the report to the president!

I was in the army about a decade ago. New privates were being waterboarded with dirty mop water. Not a universal thing by any means. They've tried to crack down, but it still happens plenty of places besides football.

I saw the thumbnail right as I clicked on another video and thought the Ravens fired John Harbaugh... I thought that was mad, being he's a good coach and the season starts so soon. Never clicked back to look at a video so quickly before.

Totally understand the situation at north western regarding sexual hazing . But on the other hand you have deshaun Watson accused of sexual assault on over 20 counts? And no one crusifies, fire, or cancel him out. Show equal accountability!!!! This is why I stopped watching sports no accountability around the table. No matter what level or sport this is killing sports

Keep it real for us guys

Still not as bad as Joe Paterno. 😅😅

I was part of that program, there was a lot of racism but not from Fitz

WTF is a naked slingshot? 😮

I love Pat MacAfee! He stood up to Brett Favre

There is a lot of speculating on this episode. Don’t condone the hazing but then it dwindled down to a conversation about racism and haircuts.

Team rituals and traditions are one thing. Hazing and abuse is another. Shouldn’t be accepted

They say their are 10 players that confirmed this report.

The head coach played there and claims he didn't know? Sure thing bud.

Been there done just cause I was from a different province in Canada for hockey and the guys that where from there said to me after the camp that the coach will let me go as I wasn’t from there!! BULL🤬 30ish years ago!!

Googled northwestern football rosters ….seen plenty players in dred locks from 2019-2022 lol be careful about the journalism your reporting espn boys

You know what else gives people a bad name? Selling out to ESPN after years of promises to not do exactly that.

Pac man was such a great pick up for the show,

I strictly live for Pac’s inappropriately timed “what”s during a serious topic

I love Pacman, but he has not figured out the timing of the "WHAT" yet.

To hear AJ even elude to how this coach can even have an argument where he accepts the firing but wants to try to argue how he should not take a hit on his money/contract. That's ballsy of him if that is the case.

Classic I didn’t know so I’m not responsible. Sorry if he knew he is culpable if he didn’t know then he is incompetent and not in tune with his program. Either are grounds for termination.

SELL AHTS

“Ignorance claims are not a valid one.” 100% correct. (I’m looking at you Penn State)

Welllll, its not the ONLY thing that gives football a terrible name. Lets be honest

13:12 "There was no expectation for the team to be good" Yes, last year was terrible, but Pat Fitzgerald was the winningest coach in school history, and took the team to 10 bowl games over 17 years.... ???

There was also though, a guy who’s not white who said in his time with the northwestern football program there was no racism

oh please. Michigan, Penn State, Texas and USC all have fantastic athletic programs and also fantastic academic programs. Pat is right whoever thinks Northwestern sucks because it's "hard to get into" is delusional.

Nobody at Northwestern Football is a legend... It's a sh*t program. 1 - 11 Team would have been one game worse if they no showed every game.

There’s gotta be something deeper if it’s true. There’s no way assistant coaches watch this go down. Even the school would catch on. I think higher ups in the school could be involved also and that coach was just a small part in that. Not sorry until your caught kinda deal

I went from a baby to an adult in 17 years, and he supposedly didn't know this was happening in the same time frame.

Look into Lake Zurich, Illinois football team

Did you order the code red?!??!

Didn't they learn from Penn State LOL Northwestern is horrible and now they'll stay that way, not that they wouldn't be anyway.

What the hell am I gonna do for the next 2 weeks ?

Please check out the Wikipedia page for northwestern football team under traditions before it gets deleted lol.

btw why is PAT in LOS ANGELES instead of being at the THUNDERDOME with the guys? btw Pat the 2023 ESPY'S will be at the DOLBY THEATER in LOS ANGELES CALIFORNIA and it will be broadcasted on ABC and it will also be the 31ST one that they have done it starts at 8:00 PM on WEDNESDAY JULY 12TH and the first one/ESPY'S was in 1993 and it will be hostless for the first time in ESPY'S history and Stephen/Steph Curry was the last host of the ESPY'S for now/for the time being also btw i think that NFL Network was one of the sports channels that announced it/broadcasted it congrats on being at the ESPY'S PAT and AJ you guys earned it 🤟🤟👍👍✊✊👊👊🤛🤛🤜🤜🐐🐐🐶🐶🐕🐕

Even with all the scandals, the only school the big 10 has threatened to boot from the conference was Nebraska for trying to play football in 2020. big 10 is the rapiest conference.

Reason they prob don’t have many intercity kids is b/c of the academic standards N’western has in order to be recruited. Similarly to the Ivy league requirements. NOT making excuses/standing up for anything that went on.

The school leadership should be fired as well. Two week suspension despite what was said???

i think it's a little more than a bad look to be honest. when you are engaging in a sport as physically violent as football, and at every point o the field incentivizing being as violent as possible, you have to do way more off the field to make sure that kind of behavior stays on the field. Like you can't just hope and pray these practices don't happen, you have to be VIGILANT ad proactive to make sure everyone feels safe, respected, and taken care of. It certainly can't be a surprise that this is a result of playing and commodifying a sport like this. Not to say its an inevitability, but you have to do some work as coaching staff, players, and front office to reinforce that behavior.

Thank you to THE MAT PCAFEE SHOW for taking the stand that needs to be taken

So what why are these players a d kids now a days such Pu***s ... I'm old school and love me some Bill Parcels or Coach JB from last chance U type of caches I had them and it's just tuff love ... Because of social media now it makes these players into snitches

Lol when pat and AJ are trying to be charitable to the coach and then Pac-Man dgaf just says “looks like it adds up. He knew SOMETHING” lmfaooo

Ok so fire the president because some fraternities at NW got shut down for bad behavior. Doesn't that reflect on the leader of Northwestern?

Just to let everyone know…Paterno knew nothing about Sandusky. 🤨