The Novans: Destiny's Children | Stargate Omnipedia 

I've always LOVED this story. It's one of the BEST candidates for continuation or even a spin-off in my opinion

A “Stargate: Novus” series could be pretty cool. Imagine a series about humans in a distant galaxy where people from our time are their ancients. Maybe they eventually connect with Earth and explain the little they know about the Destiny crew. Could be a cool way to make Stargate still about humans, but take it further out there and more alien.

it's a shame that due to the type of show universe was, they couldn't really expand on these kind of storyines longer than a few episodes

I'd like to see more of the Novan civilization.

one of the best arcs of all 3 series, absolutely insane to think of the story lines that could have been. Also seeing Philip off travelers looking so young here is crazy.

Been wanting to see an expansion on these people.

It was known that wormholes and stars don’t mix (time travel, messing with the star (K’Tau)) so the idea of opening a wormhole IN a star should have been a bigger controversy on Earth especially with O’Neill who knew of these issues

SGU was just getting started... FTW!

Excellent, the People of Novus are one of my favorite peoples from the Stargate universe and the only real part of SGU I have seen, when I saw this video it was pretty yay! in a moment I really needed it, thank you. Also, the only other people I would really like to see here is the Tok'ra, just a suggestion on the future, and possibly one on hyperdrives in the Stargate universe.

One of the best episodes of science fiction ever created. The end left me in tears

Definitely one of my favourite storylines from SGU as it touched on the social sciences a bit. If Stargate was to get a new series, I'd like more to do with this sort of thing. That is, the Tau'ri beginning to settle other worlds (so, disclosure) and the conflicts and social pressures that define each colony: Stargate Colonies, something like that.

So much could have come from this if the series was allowed to continue.

I liked the Novus arc. It was too bad that they didn't expand on it more. Ironically, I did set up a Novus RPG on the Gateworld forum several years back, though with a few tweaks to it.

This is one of my favorite storylines in all of Stargate. ❤

Damn this episode was really amazing!

This was when SGU started to get really good, for me at least. What a wild idea. Also, Rush coming out of the shuttle and going straight for trying to choke Telford had me laughing for some reason

Being a huge Stargate fan I’m sad to say I never knew they had a whole series of books to read!! Finally some new content!! I’ve mostly read Stargate fan fiction stories!! Some good enough I think would be totally awesome to bring to the big screen!!!

Every Stargate show had it pluses and minuses. SGU stays close to my heart to this day.

I recently found the six issue comic book series that continues where Universe left off and it was rather interesting… so I was extremely disappointed to realize that not only was season 2 where the show ended, but also the comic book arc was just that - a single arc, which left the series on as much of a cliff hanger as season 2 left Universe. Ugh, I want more stargate so bad, and I would love more universe too. I keep hearing about that “new series” but I’ve been hearing about that for the better part of the last decade. Stargate is such a rich universe with so many adoring fans so i wish they could find someone to pick it up without meddling in the production.

The Novans were really an interesting arc in Universe. And it was a both very distinctly Stargate, as well as distinctly SGU.

Stargate was so awesome!!! I miss it so much.

The Novan arc was the best potential direction the show could have went in to save the show. SGU messed up big time. They treated the Novans like an "alien of the week" type of thing, but nothing about the outcome makes any sense in lore. 1) Their biggest problem in the show to this point is they are alone and barely surviving. They discover the perfect situation with an advanced race of humans, literally their descendants, and they are like..."That's OK, we are just going to keep moving on into uncertainty and danger." No. That doesn't make any sense based off the motivations of show, the crew, or anything. And don't give me that "oh the purpose of the show is to discover the big secret"....nothing about the Novan arc would have stopped or hindered this. 2) They have control of the Destiny, the Novan computer core info, and they know in the general directions and destinations of the colonies and ships traveling as "sub-light" speeds. It had only been like 30 years......so how is the Destiny not able to catch the other ships? Or get to the known colony worlds? There were many and we saw like two or three. That doesn't make any sense. Why would the crew of Destiny not go looking for them or their worlds. 3) We don't know the relationship of the drones to the colonists. We don't know if they are really at war, being hunted, or have nothing to do with each other colonies and colonists. But when in Stargate history has anyone every been like, "Look we know you have this horrible evil that can possibly hurt you, but we are just too busy to help." You know darn well, they would have at least asked a question or two, or looked into this. Nothing about the decisions or the behaviors of the crew really make any sense about this whole situation. It's almost like the writers knew they backed themselves into a corner....and had to break lore just to get them out of it. 4) We also know that the both the creators and the writers were well aware at this point that show was on life support and not looking at a next season. Wouldn't this have been a better ending of the story? For the ship and crew to find out that they are not alone after all, fight a dangerous enemy and win, and realize that like the Ancients before them, the mystery just wasn't worth it, and let it go so they can live a normal happy life? Or...if you absolutely had to, let the crew be happy and safe while letting Rush fly off into the unknown like he wanted to do all along?

My fave 2 episodes. Touching. Funny. We really get to see our crew as fully formed people.

Tragic and Beautiful. Wow.

thanks for the contents as always Darren!

There are so many awesome stories that could be told. Unfortunately if someone can’t make millions of dollars from them, we can never see them in live action.

I’d have ended SGU differently. Destiny burns out it’s ramscoops fuelling from the blue star and can’t recharge. Faced with being stranded in this galaxy the crew realised they have to deal with the drones. They find a central command node and destroy it in an epic battle. The crew evacuate via stargate but rush stays to see Destiny ending. Free from attack the crew travel to The new Novus colony via star gates and settle among their descendants.

Great video, I forgot about this storyline.

Neat video. Thanks for the work.

My favourite episode

It sound like great concept for RTS. You start with little resources, as one of lost colonies, try to expand and defend against alien races, contact with other colonies and later Destiny.

oh I loved this episode!

as I sit here wistfully pondering the fate of the intrepid crew lost in space, and lost in time, and in meaning. I take solace in the knowledge that, trough the seas of stars and oceans of time, always apart, in the end, together again. for one ending is just another's start, is just the wheels slowly spinning, is just another's starring part, is just another's beginning and possible past. In the empty dark vast, the dark timeless deep. the dream we keep. Echos of eternity disturbing our serenity, end our blissful sleep, the dream we keep, until we meet again

Star Trek Enterprise also had their own Novans. Early colonists of Terra Nova.

Wow there are Novans in Star Trek too.

Man, SGU was such a great show.

Man, I wish there was a new show

I really liked Stargate universe i wish they would have done more with the show.

very interesting :)

I do this as there Kevin Feige type of person I’d plan on building a bigger universe but only slow over time!! Stargate is the type of show you could have A game made that’s like Battlestar Galactica Deadlock video game!!! But yes we need to continue on with the show!! Honestly I’d see about Atlantis returning to The people of Pegasus but not land onto a planet but onto a massive asteroid that’s around the old mid way station along the gate bridge!! In this series called ?? Stargate Beyond!! Becoming the main show could become the main show though!! Say there was a long time jump after Atlantis season 5 and during that time the SGC wanted to have Atlantis as a kind of hun point in between both the galaxies as well as with massive satellites put around the pegasus galaxy keeping log of the Wraith movement and making sure to destroy any wraith making there way between the galaxies hoping to make it to earth!!!

Ive been holding out for years, hoping the SGU cliffhanger is resolved.

I didn't see this episode. I wonder how many others I missed.

The best idea in SGU

i remember an episode of SG1 where they found a crashed ship with cryopod with human inside. i dont remember how but Daniel found himself with the personality of some of the crew member( one of them was a child), he told the team about a rogue black hole that was coming to their system and they use ship to get out of there. i cant help myself but to consider the possibility it's the same people as the novus. i know they're kind of some million light years away but with some techno-science babble it's possible.

I miss stargate. Out of all the science fiction genre of space traveling shows, this is my all time favorite story. In my opinion, much better than star wars or star trek.

That means that the seed ships had to have been sent out 2000 years before destiny in order for them to have a gate to come out off. 2000+ years for the destiny problem is a long time.

We don’t know for sure if they are still a around after destiny left or if they were wiped out after destiny left.

My only question with this timeline is why did the descendants revert back to 1800's fashion for their clothing. I get that manufacturing modern clothes would be difficult and certain technologies would still need to be invented. However, the style and accessories is totally unnecessary. It would actually cost more time and materials to make those dresses.

Maybe some Novans will find a way to dial Earth in a future series.

Sounds like a recipe for a spin-off.

It’s canon that there’s several dozen colonies. Some could be as advanced from the abandoned colony (I believe it’s well over 500 years to a 1000 years old, because the newspaper called “terminus tykes” states there’s cities all over their world and even had the military fighting the ships with ships)

I didn't like this video, I FREAKING LUVED IT! Keep up the great work! :-)

This planet seems like it'd have made for an interesting story arc if it had remained intact. It might have made an interesting new home base. But you can only do so much with the refugees.

@4:40 it is inaccurate to refer to anything on Novus as a colony at that point in the story (if ever) since it was, in fact, the source from which the colonies originated.

Y don’t I remember these episodes

If they revamped sgu mabye they could use this to the advantage to bring sgu home

A question I've been dying to ask. Is it even possible for a group of 200ish people to go to a population of 2 billion (or however many).

Did they ever cover in that how the seed ships were more than 2000 years ahead of Destiny?

What episode is this

I never understood what planet the Novans were left on (those who met the team on the first planet). Or are they in sleeping pods now?

it's really weird talking about this episode, because so many people were soo disappointed in how this show ended on it's cliffhanger as if the show was going to come back but never did, it's almost like this episode should have been SGU's ending instead of continuing forward with the modern day plot because the show has since been abandoned.

If universe kept goin for a few more seasons they could have done a new series starting when they first found novus.

you'd think they would have learned from SG1's own accident with time travel caused by gravitational lensing of their sun. but nooooooo, this amateur hour crew just had to repeat SG1's mistakes again. source: Stargate SG1 : S2E21 1969

May i ask how is it possible that there were already stargates present 2000 years in the past ?

It wasn’t clear to me they had enough people, let alone enough breeding females to avoid tragic inbreeding almost immediately.

It's a FONT

What a conundrum this is..

I always hated that they left the novan's in that galaxy. 1st if they left them with one of the colonies then they might have access to the database left on novis. 2nd if they didn't they left them on a unseen planet. 3rd either of those to would have been a death sentence as the AI bad guy got smart and started attacking any world with gate travel and ships. Why was this done off screen. Alway Thought this started to make SGU more interesting as we had another race to interact with.

the science for a minimum crew to start a colony was concluded at around 500people to avoid inbreeding and genetic degradation. so realistically these colonies would not have been possible

Young got a statue wow 😎😠😈

I'm actually annoyed that they met their black hole fate. Like... really? That simply is uncalled for. Unnecessary.

I don't remember this is this Stargate destiny or a spin off ?

It always bothers me in scifi even some incredible time has past, and people are still celebrating and fighting over the same battles as their ancient ancestors. It would be like building statues to Caesar and having a faction dedicated to carrying on Magnus' legacy.

Especially. When an alien is attacking Destiny. Chloe. Who is scared during an attack. Decided to walk over to where the aliens cut into the ship and gets directly under the opening. Un armed and surprised was abducted. Anyone else think that was a stupidest written scene ever?

Come on mgm or Amazon let’s get it started

Yeah. Once more SG-U really effed up. The genetic diversity and number of the people on board was not sufficient to found a colony.

The best part was when Rush was revealed to be the devil for an entire country.

I expected some exploration of the grandfather paradox. But if you didn't talk about it, it didn't happened. Pity.

They were originally the ancients.

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So the gate got buried, why not go grab another one from one of the planets they were on, and use it to evac the home world. Oh wait that would screw up the story.

SGU gets a bad wrap for being so terrible and it is the worst of the three series’s. However these two episodes are probably the most beautifully written episodes of any stargate series.

miss show a lot :(

I found this arc to be so interesting, in which they should have grounded the show this way and pushed through in development of a civilization and using the stargates.... the destiny was boring as shit!

I love how extremely bad the novans are at naming things One country is just named after their leader, the other after a typeface Their world has the same naming convention as a computer setting up new files They try to hide it behind the Ancient language, but it's so human how much they suck at this

I want to ask others. Anyone els annoyed with writers always destroying things that can help. When destiny came across the other Destiny. But didn’t have enough time to salvage what they needed. Or when Destiny arrived at the pant where the first destiny crew arrived and created a highly advanced society. Again as soon as they arrived. And enter the archive. Suddenly it’s gets destroyed. Before being able to download all information and supplies. Majority of all sci-fi movies play out the same way. Destroy every thing that is advanced.

The only problem I have with this episode is that there's no way you could have a handful of people create a million-populace society and civilisation. You'd need approximately 5000 people at the beginning to create such a civilisation with enough biodiversity to avoid inbreeding and diseases wiping them out again.

SGU was too much of a space drama soap opera with unnecessary backbiting and unorganized leadership to really grab my attention and I’m glad it’s dead because of that reason alone. The actual science fiction aspect of the show was extremely interesting. And if not for the high school drama aboard the ship I’d have loved to watch it well into 10 seasons just as I did SG-1.

Most hrilliant plot hook never prusued because we had to waste 2 seasons on pseudo religion, boring soap drama and the asinine idea that the fucking lucian alliance is somehow a threat.

One of the pest episodes in the series

WTF with the skimpy ass stargate. Newer ones withstand blackholes, meteors and shit

Nobody cares. We want a new show.

Ironically Star Trek did storylines similar to this one three times (1 in TNG, 1 in DS9 & 1 in Ent'), yet did them so much better. Tis interesting to see how SGU was viewed by others, but to me at least, it's always felt like poorly written StarGate fanfiction, filmed mostly in the dark with low end video cameras, by an emo. Hard to believe that any of SG1 & SGA's writing staff worked on this series.

I guarantee there was a lot of inbreeding.

Liked the show but I could not stand Chloe and Lt Babyface. Worst characters ever.

I hate Universe so much. It’s so awful compared to the other two series. All of its world building and lore feels so barren and desolate.

This is one example SGU was such a bad series, that storyline is so stupid, it takes a lot willing suspension of disbelief to swallow. They had a lot of technology to jump start, 2000 years meant they would have accomplished _a lot_ . They were capable of interstellar flight, they could have settled moons and asteroids nearby, and save lots of people. Bad show, bad writing.