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The Nuclear Salt Water Rocket - Possibly the Craziest Rocket Engine Ever Imagined. 

Scott Manley
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The Nuclear Salt Water Rocket is a rocket engine concept that uses a rapid nuclear reaction in a Uranium salt dissolved in water to create a high thrust, high efficiency engine which eclipses the performance of any rocket engine ever designed. It's a concept originally presented by Robert Zubrin, which is appealing because it looks more scientifically plausable than many other futuristic propulsion concepts.
It's also scary on so many levels, using a propellent that has to be stabilized by specially designed tanks, and relies on managing a small nuclear explosion with power outputs of hundreds of gigawatts.
The original paper can be read here:
arc.aiaa.org/doi/abs/10.2514/...
And Atomic Rockets has a section on the device:
www.projectrho.com/public_html...
The Kerbal mod version is available as part of Nertea's "Far Future Technologies":
forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/...

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@rocketsocks
@rocketsocks 3 года назад
Fly S.A.F.E.: Surfing Atop Fisson Explosions
@bend1483
@bend1483 3 года назад
Love it!
@machineball
@machineball 3 года назад
yes
@mrpicky1868
@mrpicky1868 3 года назад
revield)
@dankodnevic3222
@dankodnevic3222 3 года назад
Suicidal Atomic Fart Engine
@BobbyCoggins
@BobbyCoggins 3 года назад
This needs to be on a T-Shirt @Scott Manley
@i.k.2485
@i.k.2485 3 года назад
"non-stop Chernobyl", "weapons grade uranium", "fly safe". Welcome to the CIA watchlist, bois.
@marty2129
@marty2129 3 года назад
So CIA Watchlist has the same keywords as Metalcore Band Name Generator? Interesting... :D
@r0cketplumber
@r0cketplumber 3 года назад
I had to actively register with with the feds to buy nitromethane for rocket engines a decade ago. I'm sure they have a dossier on me, c'est la vie.
@EngineEnginer
@EngineEnginer 3 года назад
Czarnobyl not chernobyl
@eiteiei4063
@eiteiei4063 3 года назад
@@marty2129 lol good one
@dylanrimmer
@dylanrimmer 3 года назад
@@EngineEnginer no its chernobyl
@christophertstone
@christophertstone 3 года назад
Engines, % C, and "No known reasons it wouldn't work" - What a time to be alive.
@thefirstsin
@thefirstsin 3 года назад
Hell yeah!
@unexpected2475
@unexpected2475 3 года назад
Feels a little bit like a modern Bussard Ramjet. Hopefully this proves to be more feasible than that though.
@augustovasconcellos7173
@augustovasconcellos7173 3 года назад
We've had realistic designs that could reach 10-12% of the speed of light for YEARS, though. Project Orion was not fucking around.
@geryz7549
@geryz7549 2 года назад
@@augustovasconcellos7173 Project Orion, Medusa, Breakthrough Starshot, Fission Fragment Reactor engines, the list goes on...
@lmamakos
@lmamakos 2 года назад
with all that going on, alive for how long?
@stormhawk31
@stormhawk31 3 года назад
Honestly, at this point in history, THIS is the best engine we've got for REAL interplanetary travel.
@barreiros5077
@barreiros5077 2 года назад
Far away of my A
@kamenwaticlients
@kamenwaticlients 2 года назад
Yeah this one seems completely doable in the short term. Not sure of anyone has the will to try it out.
@spencer1980
@spencer1980 2 года назад
If we want to actually explore the solar system and end this robot foreplay nonsense, this seems to be our best bet. The thing I like about this engine is how scalable it is.
@kenshi_cv2407
@kenshi_cv2407 2 года назад
I still think we should pursue inertial confinement fusion engines for Solar System exploration, propellants for those engines are vastly easier to mine and refine elsewhere in the solar system.
@spencer1980
@spencer1980 2 года назад
@@kenshi_cv2407 have you read much about that muon catalyzed fusion? Doesn't work for making power, but heard it could work great for propulsion (I'm still a fan of these salt water rockets since your need for an external power source is limited to powering pumps and not much else). A space ship is gonna need lots of power, and inertial confinement also needs a lot of power. At that point, you're gonna need a massive fission reactor regardless. In fact, I'm willing to bet that your consumption of fissile material would be greater powering a fusion drive than you would consume with a salt water design, for a vessel of comparable mass and velocity.
@ac281201
@ac281201 3 года назад
Kerbal Space Program 2 developers: "Write that down, write that down!"
@bbgun061
@bbgun061 3 года назад
The trailer seems to feature an inertial confinement fusion engine. I doubt they forgot about this one...
@joelnord4699
@joelnord4699 3 года назад
We can hope
@GrandProtectorDark
@GrandProtectorDark 3 года назад
KSP2 already has a NSWR.
@id_NaN
@id_NaN 3 года назад
@@GrandProtectorDark didnt they only have the standard nuclear engine?
@waylandsmith
@waylandsmith 3 года назад
There's a pretty popular mod, Interstellar, that has detailed models of many different types of nuclear engines, all of them based on proposed, real designs. These include thermal, salt water, fusion and fission and require you to be able to regulate heat, fuels, nuclear waste and propellant.
@Hykje
@Hykje 3 года назад
"How is the engine running?" "Not great -not terrible."
@bokiNYC
@bokiNYC 3 года назад
😂😂
@sohamatkar9285
@sohamatkar9285 3 года назад
"He's delusional, take him to the infirmary"
@rhinobird
@rhinobird 3 года назад
"How is the engine running?" "yes"
@thespaceman9146
@thespaceman9146 3 года назад
Instead of 3.6 roentgen, 3.6 kilonewtons
@NovaRanger007
@NovaRanger007 3 года назад
@@thespaceman9146 Huh.. I'm dumb.. please tell how a radiation unit is equivalent to a force unit here?
@AstronomicalYT
@AstronomicalYT 3 года назад
"900 times the energy of TNT" Excellent
@karstenschuhmann8334
@karstenschuhmann8334 3 года назад
If fact, that is very low for a nuclear device, gasoline has more than twice the energy of TNT.
@misterguts
@misterguts 3 года назад
"Excellent" I can just hear Mr Burns saying that...
@MusikCassette
@MusikCassette 3 года назад
@@misterguts The energy density of TNT isn't actually that good. especially compared with rocket fuels.
@dsdy1205
@dsdy1205 2 года назад
@@karstenschuhmann8334 Yeah, it's bad cos of the weight of all that water, and your per kg solubility isn't going to be above the ballpark of a percent
@1224chrisng
@1224chrisng 2 года назад
@@karstenschuhmann8334 I think famously, Twinkies have a much higher energy density than TNT, TNT has an energy density of about 1 kilocalories per gram, whereas Twinkies has 3.4 kcal/g, but this is mainly because Twinkies or gasoline don't have built-in oxidisers
@ekscalybur
@ekscalybur 3 года назад
"Ruin your day" Early interplanetary humanity is going to be *LIT*
@thefirstsin
@thefirstsin 3 года назад
Hell yeah!
@MadScientist267
@MadScientist267 2 года назад
Course if that actually meant anything...
@yoearth
@yoearth 3 года назад
"Non-stop Chernobyl" sounds like a perfect angle for the pitch to the investors.
@Aermydach
@Aermydach 3 года назад
Or the name of a Metal band?
@OnionChoppingNinja
@OnionChoppingNinja 3 года назад
I'd fund that...
@DanielTsosie
@DanielTsosie 3 года назад
HBO would love a show of that description :D
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 3 года назад
Sounds like a good punk band name.
@sirius4k
@sirius4k 3 года назад
Sold! You had me at Cher Nobyl.
@TheAgamemnon911
@TheAgamemnon911 3 года назад
- So, is this a great idea or a terrible idea? - Yes
@KermitFrazierdotcom
@KermitFrazierdotcom 3 года назад
Umm... like Henry Ford said, If You Think You Can, or You Think You Cant, You're Right.
@jgedutis
@jgedutis 3 года назад
This is a great idea 💡
@zefzec4462
@zefzec4462 3 года назад
This engine would need a disclaimer saying POINT AWAY FROM EARTH!
@stefanhauptmann6564
@stefanhauptmann6564 3 года назад
Not great not terrible...
@AnimeSunglasses
@AnimeSunglasses 3 года назад
"It's amazing how often those two things coincide."
@andreibaciu7518
@andreibaciu7518 3 года назад
"So you know what we've thought about?" "Please don't tell me you want to use nukes as a propulsion method again" "Oh no not nukes, we want to make a non-stop Chernobyl"
@CptJistuce
@CptJistuce 2 года назад
"We only need ONE nuke! ... it just explodes for minutes instead of microseconds."
@drewgehringer7813
@drewgehringer7813 3 года назад
"what if Project Orion but the explosion is continuous"
@meowmeowmeow594
@meowmeowmeow594 3 года назад
This
@OttomanDrifter91
@OttomanDrifter91 2 года назад
'What if Project Orion but better'
@dsdy1205
@dsdy1205 2 года назад
That actually was Zubrin's rationale for creating this
@Joe-xq3zu
@Joe-xq3zu 3 года назад
This thing somehow manages to be even more insane than the one where you ride a constant chain of nuclear explosions on top of a giant steel plate
@webbugt
@webbugt 3 года назад
Power output: 14 Chernobyl/s
@Trifler500
@Trifler500 3 года назад
@Maylevka May Yup. The only real reason the research stopped on projects like Orion was the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty. I imagine the people working on it were very disappointed.
@charlescsmith1213
@charlescsmith1213 3 года назад
@@webbugt I feel like Chernobyls could be a new unit of measurement. Like horsepower, but for nuclear rockets
@dsdy1205
@dsdy1205 3 года назад
Considering it was created when Zubrin looked at Orion and thought to himself "That's not good enough", I'm not surprised.
@Trifler500
@Trifler500 3 года назад
@Maylevka May I remember reading a lengthy article about it. They weren't planning on using it for the booster. It would have only been ignited after reaching/leaving orbit.
@theCodyReeder
@theCodyReeder 3 года назад
I love it! 😍
@johnladuke6475
@johnladuke6475 3 года назад
Proof of concept model in an upcoming episode? They left you with some uranium, right?
@chwriter7138
@chwriter7138 3 года назад
Are you still signed up to go to mars?
@Systox25
@Systox25 3 года назад
100% he DM Mark Rober for a project and started mining sum uranium
@ccserfas4629
@ccserfas4629 3 года назад
Cody is your video from a couple years ago still available that you dilute a poison with water and consume it?
@bgbthabun627
@bgbthabun627 3 года назад
@Cody'sLab I agree!!! this is an awesome idea, in that there is no hpyergolic ignition of the fuel required. And if they replace the water coolant of the nozzle with a well defined magnetic field passing through a ceramic nozzle then the water flow requirements would be much lower as well.
@francesbadger3401
@francesbadger3401 3 года назад
And thus was born humanity's improbable stone age stellar empire, built upon nothing but hubris and a love of things that go boom. When it comes time to join the interstellar community, we may find that we're the Klingons. Ad Luna! Ad Ares! As Astra!
@newhorizon3229
@newhorizon3229 3 года назад
I really don't wanna be that guy but Ares is the Greek name of the god of war, the Romans called him Mars so in Latin it would be 'Ad Mars!'.
@KingMinish
@KingMinish 2 года назад
The Imperium calls us, brother
@JustwinJBees
@JustwinJBees 2 года назад
Ad Astra Per Aspera
@nickl5658
@nickl5658 2 года назад
Klingons developed the photon torpedo and had a better understanding of warp factor than the Federation. No... if we go into space we may find ourselves being the Pakleds
@garethfairclough8715
@garethfairclough8715 3 года назад
"Non stop Chernobyl". Sounds like a name for a heavy metal band.
@maxmustermann76
@maxmustermann76 3 года назад
i had the same thoughts
@SpaceDave-on8uv
@SpaceDave-on8uv 3 года назад
Uranium is a heavy metal, I see what you did there...
@davidanalyst671
@davidanalyst671 3 года назад
I hear they drop new albums faster than the water level in an RBMK
@JinKee
@JinKee 3 года назад
they went home after a 20 minute set
@alexv3357
@alexv3357 2 года назад
"Relentless Chernobyl," maybe? "Ceaseless Chernobyl?"
@huracan200173
@huracan200173 3 года назад
"I went to Jupiter and back in 6 months, riding a continuous chernobyl-like atomic bomb". There won't be a more badass quote, ever. Period.
@outofcontext728
@outofcontext728 3 года назад
Well why not frase it like this: I rode a atomic space chernobyl for 6 months to saturn and back
@MrCrackbear
@MrCrackbear 3 года назад
yeah but only girls go to Jupiter, and they do so to get more stupider, so idk if it's really that badass
@666Tomato666
@666Tomato666 3 года назад
A believe they call 'em Torchships
@outofcontext728
@outofcontext728 3 года назад
@@MrCrackbear what about pluto then?
@Karibanu
@Karibanu 3 года назад
@@outofcontext728 Would need a plutonium powered engine, obviously.
@Sinnistering
@Sinnistering 3 года назад
"Open cycle nuclear reactor" Well. This is it. Nothing will ever excite me as much as this. My ChE and NE nerding combine to this one horrendous, wonderful beast.
@polygondwanaland8390
@polygondwanaland8390 3 года назад
I've also seen proposals for an "autophagic nuclear solid rocket booster". Basically this, but as an SRB.
@KevinBalch-dt8ot
@KevinBalch-dt8ot 3 года назад
I know. I was a nuclear engineer but now retired so about 30 years too late for me.
@tariqahmad1371
@tariqahmad1371 3 года назад
Watch “the nuclear option” by Isaac Arthur, there are some serious designs that would be best used far from earth. Great stuff
@infernosgaming8942
@infernosgaming8942 3 года назад
Just be careful, or else it could become an Open-Open Cycle Nuclear Reactor
@morgansinclair6318
@morgansinclair6318 3 года назад
I prefer closed cycle, i.e. the nuclear lightbulb. Half as efficient, but you can use them to lift off from the surface of living worlds, and that's when you really need the high thrust anyway.
@nonchip
@nonchip 3 года назад
5:30 "this isn't your usual slow reaction" i mean it's kinda to the nuke what a conventional rocket is to a bomb, right? like a nuclear runaway explosion that just keeps going with one end open
@mikeg4972
@mikeg4972 2 года назад
There would be no nuclear explosion. To make a nuclear bomb, a special setup is required.
@CptJistuce
@CptJistuce 2 года назад
Yep. It is a very apt analogy.
@kamenwaticlients
@kamenwaticlients 2 года назад
That makes it even clearer
@unclenogbad1509
@unclenogbad1509 2 года назад
OK, the science says yes, the engineering says yes, and the mere fact that we're genuinely using units like "1% of the speed of light" makes me say Yes Yes Yes! Another fascinating vid, Scott, many thanks. (NB, can I nominate that the SI unit for 1% SoL be called the 'Manley'?)
@DeliveryMcGee
@DeliveryMcGee 3 года назад
Project Orion: "Let's throw megaton-class nuclear bombs out the back and literally blow this thing to Mars." NSWR: "Hold my beer."
@stefanr8232
@stefanr8232 3 года назад
"hold my brine"
@timd6468
@timd6468 3 года назад
"Hold my Gose". (For the beer nerds)
@weatheranddarkness
@weatheranddarkness 3 года назад
@@timd6468 I'm still not clear on what constitutes a gose. Are you implying it involves salt?
@timd6468
@timd6468 3 года назад
@@weatheranddarkness Gose is style of beer that is brewed with water that has unusually high salinity or has salt added.
@charlesbouldin3087
@charlesbouldin3087 3 года назад
The proposed Orion used much smaller explosions than that! More like kiloton, or a few kilotons.
@jamesgates1074
@jamesgates1074 3 года назад
He says “Fly Safe” while describing his magic nuclear bomb Chernobyl flying carpet...
@iasimov5960
@iasimov5960 3 года назад
No less safe than any naturally occurring radiation found in the cosmos. Life on earth has basked in the glow of a gigantic fusion bomb its whole history.
@SynthOSphere
@SynthOSphere 3 года назад
@@iasimov5960 Indeed... Radiation OUTSIDE the magnetosphere, Life INSIDE... Launching rocket with a full load of 20%+ uranium in our sky is not an option. Failure probabilities are still too high. Even planes still crash a couple times a year. Asteroid mining and refining in space is the only solution to this.
@ArgonianSkaleel
@ArgonianSkaleel 3 года назад
S.A.F.E.: Suicidal Atomic Fart Engine
@shurmurray
@shurmurray 3 года назад
+1. The feasibility of this thing is hugely outweighed by the long and painful development. How many of those nuke engines and rockets going to explode in Earth's atmosphere before they will safely fly in space?.
@-danR
@-danR 3 года назад
He put the stress on _SAFE_ , I noticed.
@KnighteMinistriez
@KnighteMinistriez 3 года назад
I'm not sure I like the idea of being inside a rocket that has nuclear explosions continuously going off behind me, but I do like the idea of going to other star systems in decades instead of millennia.
@KonradTheWizzard
@KonradTheWizzard 2 года назад
We should stop using cars and busses: the fossil fuel motors work by utilizing hundreds of thermobaric explosions per minute only a couple feet away from the passengers - generating enough energy to kill everyone inside the vehicle (and a few outside of it) every minute several times over. Certainly a scary idea. Electric vehicles are out as well: the immense magnetic fields inside those motor coils would be enough to wipe someone's brain if applied directly. The amound of electric energy stored in those batteries (or retrieved from those overhead power lines in the case of trains and trams) would also be quite deadly. If we can develop this technology to a point at which it becomes as safe as a diesel car - then I wouldn't care how much energy it is and how it is derived. So, go with your second thought... ;-)
@dsdy1205
@dsdy1205 2 года назад
If you wanna go anywhere in a reasonable amount of time, you can't go wrong exploding a bunch of shit behind you
@dsdy1205
@dsdy1205 2 года назад
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 Well, that system has the advantage of being passively stable. The worst form of drive failure that could happen is the drive plate dampers failing and the whole plate tearing off and falling away. Meanwhile on Dr Zubrin's wild ride if your water isn't flowing fast enough the continuous nuclear explosion progresses backwards up the pipes into your fuel tank...
@dougaltolan3017
@dougaltolan3017 2 года назад
@@KonradTheWizzard horses, don't forget how a horse can kill with a single kick.
@fluffly3606
@fluffly3606 2 года назад
when you're inside a running conventional automobile there are chemical explosions continuously going off in front of you. it's not that different :D
@Rab_-cg9hd
@Rab_-cg9hd 3 года назад
The fact that this genuinely feels like the beginning of stuff like this being taken so seriously and potentially being worked on in my lifetime alone is enough to make me happy during this rubbish pandemic times. Love that a fellow jock is the go to space guy also btw 🤘🏼🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@colinkennedy1718
@colinkennedy1718 3 года назад
"There's a more powerful version, where instead of using reactor grade Uranium it uses WEAPONS grade uranium" Because of course there is.
@seldoon_nemar
@seldoon_nemar 3 года назад
When you need to "hotrod" your reactor drive 😂 "hey, is that engine dual fuel rated?" DON'T USE THE WRONG FUEL HOSE
@ilikenicethings
@ilikenicethings 3 года назад
What could possibly go wrong??? Sounds like a safe, secure plan to me! But, but what if the first stage rocket breaks down on ascent and this final stage spreads weapons grade nuclear material everywhere ...
@paulmahoney7619
@paulmahoney7619 3 года назад
@@ilikenicethings You'd source the uranium and water from asteroids.
@1320crusier
@1320crusier 3 года назад
@@ilikenicethings Theres a point at which we need to be ok with being less risk averse.
@mllhild
@mllhild 3 года назад
@@ilikenicethings You could put the uranium refinement plant in orbit and feed it with material from asteroids and comets. Practicly building your rocket in space as well helps with a lot of problems.
@gregwarner3753
@gregwarner3753 3 года назад
When you look at it there goes another steam engine.
@emceeboogieboots1608
@emceeboogieboots1608 3 года назад
Nuclear steam engine... This is TRUE steam punk!
@NoName-zn1sb
@NoName-zn1sb 3 года назад
!!
@PandorasFolly
@PandorasFolly 3 года назад
Water is just such a useful element. When our descendants push a hole through reality to finally achieve FTL or explore other dimensions I am sure it will basically be a fancy steam engine.
@Rose_Harmonic
@Rose_Harmonic 3 года назад
@@emceeboogieboots1608 The steamiest
@argschrecklich9704
@argschrecklich9704 3 года назад
It's humbling that our advances in energy technology amount to finding more efficient ways to boil water. I was so amazed as a kid that we humans can harness the power of the atom and so dissapointed when learned how it's actually done. "It's just a kettle? Bleh!"
@robopenguin5501
@robopenguin5501 Год назад
”A drive’s capability as a weapon is directly proportional to its capability as a drive” - The Expanse
@Grendelmk1
@Grendelmk1 2 года назад
The 90% enriched version is a warship drive. Not only does it have the sheer power to make the sorts of burns you might need while packing the mass of your offensive and defensive systems, it's also a weapon in its own right. Exhaust velocities in the thousands of KPS, AND it's radioactive as hell? The Kzinti Lesson says hi :P Plus, it's fuel efficient enough that if you're willing to settle for a "mere" 1,000 KPS of delta V, your tankage would be relatively small and easier to protect.
@roundcube3058
@roundcube3058 3 года назад
“It’s like Chernobyl but in space”
@alexandermccomb6444
@alexandermccomb6444 3 года назад
Space Chernobyl: in space soviet comrade gets you.
@hernan4667
@hernan4667 3 года назад
Chernobyl is space haha
@showcase-me
@showcase-me 3 года назад
and we know *everything* is better in space!
@HNedel
@HNedel 3 года назад
Yeah, that should be the title of a proposal to congress :D
@spencerjones4203
@spencerjones4203 3 года назад
Yea but the radiation from it would kill satellites so we could not watch the HBO mini series
@mikeedwards350
@mikeedwards350 3 года назад
"Dr Von Braun, let me introduce Dr Strangelove. Oh, you've worked together before?"
@mortisCZ
@mortisCZ 3 года назад
Jawohl! Hiz ideaz might zeem far flung but wir want to fling thingz far, ja? Further than ze London thiz time.
@kenanacampora
@kenanacampora 3 года назад
Hahahah. Both were in the SS
@achtsekundenfurz7876
@achtsekundenfurz7876 3 года назад
"Oh hi Wernher, I'm the new head of your engine design department. This idea is gonna blow you away!" _looks at blueprints_ "Someone get me my Braun pants"
@danwaldron2053
@danwaldron2053 3 года назад
@@achtsekundenfurz7876 4⁴⁴
@davidanalyst671
@davidanalyst671 3 года назад
hahaha!! damn now I'm going to have to go rewatch this
@K31TH3R
@K31TH3R 3 года назад
Meanwhile at the Universal Atomic Energy Agency, the alien in charge of space decontamination just had all 4 of his hearts go into cardiac arrest.
@TealJosh
@TealJosh 3 года назад
Haha, if they want us to not do it, they better come down and give us warp drive quickly.
@DeHerg
@DeHerg 3 года назад
If that is giving it a hearts attack imaging it looking at what our sun puts out every second.
@michaelfoye1135
@michaelfoye1135 3 года назад
If he's going to worry about this, he'll feint when he gets wind of just how much radiation is the normal background in space.
@tophatsurgeon7469
@tophatsurgeon7469 2 года назад
@@TealJosh Give us a warp drive; or every ten minutes; we cause a galactic environmental catastrophe...
@williamblack4006
@williamblack4006 2 года назад
@K31TH3R "space decontamination?" I have to break it to you: space is literally filled with high energy cosmic rays and neutrons streaming off the sun.
@dabelli3818
@dabelli3818 3 года назад
"My father is a firefighter" "Wow that's badass" "Uh, my father it's a soldier then" "Doesn't he fear death?" "Pfft, my father rides atomic bombs to Jupiter and back every six or so months, and that's only the way he travels to his job"
@OttomanDrifter91
@OttomanDrifter91 2 года назад
I mean cars we run today mostly utilise literal dinosaur juice that's expired waaaayy long ago to spin some aerosol machineguns. As long as we build things we'll always be cool.
@kreynolds1123
@kreynolds1123 2 года назад
Rides a nonstop nucular explosion all the way to Jupiter.
@Helena-me6mp
@Helena-me6mp 2 года назад
thats how our parents got to school
@smoochfa973
@smoochfa973 2 года назад
😂😂
@Yuki_Ika7
@Yuki_Ika7 Год назад
Metal AF
@billlyell8322
@billlyell8322 3 года назад
I'd rather see the worlds supply of weapons grade nuclear material used in a space ship than a bomb.
@luckyhendrix
@luckyhendrix 3 года назад
Untill he rocket carrying all that fissible material in orbit has an accident and falls back to earth during ascent ,😅
@r3dp9
@r3dp9 3 года назад
@@luckyhendrix Bah. There's no 100% way to protect earth (or any given city on earth, for that matter). The best protection is always to diversify, get some of your assets out of the one basket.
@leandrox1
@leandrox1 3 года назад
Put hundred of kilos of uranium in a crew dragon capsule...the more secure capsule available...in a very secure container... And build the prototypes of the motors on the future Moon bases... BTW...in the future you can get the uranium o plutonium from mines on the Moon or from near asteroids... You wont need to launch uranium from Earth...
@DanaTheLateBloomingFruitLoop
@DanaTheLateBloomingFruitLoop 3 года назад
@@luckyhendrix The Cassini probe already carried almost 30 kg (64 lbs) of Plutonium 238 so it was done before and there wasn't too much protest.
@ich439
@ich439 3 года назад
@@luckyhendrix No that wouldn't be a problem. U235 is much less dangerous than the plutonium used for other space missions.(if it just falls down without reakting) But what will the russians do if there is an official announcment that the us launches a missile with enough fissile material to blow up a nation? And how do you test such a engine? It can never run on earth due to the massive contamintion.......
@seldoon_nemar
@seldoon_nemar 3 года назад
"there's some things you can only really do in space" "oh yeah, name on" this.
@dragonatorul
@dragonatorul 3 года назад
To be fair you could do it on Earth too, but it's not really recommended.
@antaresmc4407
@antaresmc4407 3 года назад
@@dragonatorul I have a launch vehicle using this thing in a KSP save. I know its not healthy, but what about the profit?
@thomasmackay4
@thomasmackay4 3 года назад
Yeah, i was just thinking how the hell do you test this.
@craigprosser9554
@craigprosser9554 3 года назад
@@thomasmackay4 from a long way away I imagine 😂
@Voron_Aggrav
@Voron_Aggrav 3 года назад
@@thomasmackay4 somewhere you can seal it, or the moon
@Wazoox
@Wazoox 3 года назад
From what I can tell, it's probably the motor that Tintin's rocket used :D
@geryz7549
@geryz7549 3 года назад
Inside the atmosphere? I suppose Tintin's rocket commits mass genocide then
@anuvisraa5786
@anuvisraa5786 3 года назад
@@geryz7549 he is belgian noting new for the guy
@HerrGausF
@HerrGausF 2 года назад
@@geryz7549 IIRC the moon rocket also had conventional propulsion for launch into orbit.
@pewpewman._.3415
@pewpewman._.3415 2 года назад
@@anuvisraa5786 *XD*
@dsdy1205
@dsdy1205 2 месяца назад
Nah, Tintin's rocket was basically an NTR with holy frick levels of chamber temp owing to the handwavium calculite that Prof Calculus invented to line the fuel elements
@lloydevans2900
@lloydevans2900 3 года назад
As I understood it from having read up a bit about this idea, the fuel tanks don't need to have boron (or other control rod material) inside them, though the tanks were made of a high-boron metal alloy, or at least a layer of boron in the tank walls. But the main way of preventing criticality occurring in the fuel tanks was simply geometry - the tanks would be made long and thin, with relatively large gaps between all the tanks, a bit like how nuclear reactor cores are made of lots of separate long thin fuel rods rather than one massive block of uranium. There would also be lightweight non-absorbent filler material in the gaps between the tanks to prevent the water pooling anywhere inside the whole structure in event of any tank springing a leak. As to the chemistry, uranium tetrabromide seems like a bit of an odd choice to me - especially as a solution in water would be at least partially hydrolyzed into uranyl ions and hydrogen bromide, the latter making the solution strongly acidic. The only way to inhibit this hydrolysis would be to keep the pH low with another even stronger acid, so either way, uranium tetabromide solutions would be corrosive at the very least, as well as probably unstable. The sources I read mentioned using uranyl nitrate or plutonium nitrate: These make a lot more sense, since all nitrate salts are water soluble, the solutions are stable and not appreciably acidic, and can be made much more concentrated than bromide salts if necessary.
@leerman22
@leerman22 2 года назад
I think having the uranium salts mix with the water as needed is a better option than keeping tanks of "boom juice" around. May make ISRU more practical, sourcing water at least. Could save a lot of weight, too, as only the salt storage needs neutron poisons. Corrosion would affect less parts as well.
@Teboski78
@Teboski78 2 года назад
Would plutonium need to be isotopically enriched or depleted for the design to work? Or could it just be tailored to work best with the natural isotopic makeup of the plutonium in nuclear waste?
@Teboski78
@Teboski78 2 года назад
@@leerman22 would the salts now need to be separated by larger spaces or does the lack of moderating water make storage a lot easier?
@leerman22
@leerman22 2 года назад
@@Teboski78 Moderator reduces the fuel needed to go critical, so it would be safer keeping them separate.
@lloydevans2900
@lloydevans2900 2 года назад
@@Teboski78 As I understand it, isotopic enrichment only applies to uranium from the perspective of building a critical mass, since while U-238 is fissionable under fast neutron conditions, U-235 (naturally occurring at 0.7%) and U-233 (decay product from thorium) are the only fissile isotopes of uranium. Plutonium is a different story entirely, since it doesn't occur naturally in any significant quantities, so all the known plutonium stocks in existence have been manufactured in reactor cores. More to the point, every known isotope of plutonium is fissile. Some of the heavier isotopes are even prone to spontaneous fission, without needing an external neutron source. These slow buildup of these heavier isotopes sets a practical limit on how long you can leave U-238 breeding plutonium in a reactor: If you have too much of the spontaneous fission isotopes in your final plutonium, the risk of premature detonation becomes unacceptably high - especially for a production warhead!
@johnassal5838
@johnassal5838 3 года назад
I like this concept and with that exhaust nobody will ever tailgate for long.
@srenkoch6127
@srenkoch6127 3 года назад
Well as stated by (I think Asimov), any propulsion system efficient enough to propel a starship can stand in as a weapon, just aim the exhaust at your enemy....
@benr.4238
@benr.4238 3 года назад
Slamming on the brakes takes care of tailgaters.
@streetwind.
@streetwind. 3 года назад
@@srenkoch6127 Larry Niven, actually. The Kzinti Lesson.
@srenkoch6127
@srenkoch6127 3 года назад
@@streetwind. I stand corrected :-)
@alexandruianosi8469
@alexandruianosi8469 3 года назад
@@srenkoch6127 If I remember correctly, it was about pointing the (interplanetary) communication system, a strategy used in the first encounter with the Kzin forces (as already stated by @Streetwind, in Larry's Niven universe).
@TheRogueWolf
@TheRogueWolf 3 года назад
Phrases to leave out of the promotional materials, #431: "So it's a non-stop Chernobyl in space."
@ThePhiphler
@ThePhiphler 3 года назад
SpaceX has this problem already. They have to careful strip out all mentions of "belly-flop maneuver" and "suicide burns" when filing applications with the FAA.
@DepressivesBrot
@DepressivesBrot 3 года назад
@@ThePhiphler See also: Why the project is no longer called the Big F***** Rocket.
@James-vc2xs
@James-vc2xs 3 года назад
"...Chernobyl almost worked..." hehe
@mkocel
@mkocel 3 года назад
THANK YOU LOL FUCKING CHRIST WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?
@phuzz00
@phuzz00 3 года назад
It's a non-stop *double* Chernobyl in space ;)
@DerKlappspaten
@DerKlappspaten 3 года назад
The "fly safe" in the end sounded like a threat. 😬
@devans.5324
@devans.5324 3 года назад
ah yes I too measure my engine power in chernobyls per second
@faroncobb6040
@faroncobb6040 3 года назад
Having read Zubrin's paper, there seems to be a pretty obvious show stopper in this design. Zubrin goes to great lengths to explain how a critical mass could be maintained in the cylindrical part of the engine(plenum) due to the fact that water is basically incompressible and would maintain a steady flow rate. But then he wants almost all the actual fission to happen in the nozzle where the propellant is more spread out and is no longer a critical mass. Because uranium atoms only release a limited amount of neutrons when they split there is simply no way to generate enough neutrons in the plenum to split the required number of uranium atoms in the nozzle, and if you had enough uranium in the nozzle where the propellant is spreading out to maintain a critical mass the plenum would go up like a bomb. Also you cannot heat the water in the plenum enough to turn it into steam, because then you have to take gas laws into effect where increased temperature requires either higher pressure(which would result in the flow going the wrong way), or increased flow speed as you go down the plenum, resulting in the critical mass being lost and the chain reaction ending even before you get into the nozzle. Because heavier molecules such as water and uranium require a much higher temperature than straight hydrogen molecules to reach the same ISP, I am extremely skeptical that any attempt to build this design could actually reach the ISP levels of a nuclear thermal rocket, never mind the tens to thousands of km/s exhaust velocities Zubrin speculates about. I would love to be proved wrong, but this design seems to be a classic case of using math to get answers to a different question than you are actually asking.
@KevinBalch-dt8ot
@KevinBalch-dt8ot 3 года назад
I think you would want the water to remain as a liquid in the plenum both for reasons of hydrodynamic stability and to ensure that the exiting fluid is as supercritical (from a reactor kinetics standpoint not thermodynamic standpoint) as possible. A nuclear bomb suffers the same problem in that the reaction shuts down once the fuel expands beyond a certain point yet they get the job done. I think having multiple tanks/injectors focused on the same point in the combustion chamber would address your concerns, be safer snd allow for some degree of throttleability at the cost of some increased weight and complexity. While H2O is more massive than H2, the higher powers this concept offers is more than worth it. The mass of the salt itself is negligible, particularly is it fissions.
@NavarroRefugee
@NavarroRefugee 3 года назад
Does water even stay water at the temperatures we're talking about here? I would think the water molecules would very quickly break down into hydrogen and oxygen.
@demacherius1
@demacherius1 3 года назад
I think the biggest problem is that you would have to get all that nasty stuff into orbit in the first place. One failed start and we live in holes in the ground for the rest of the planets live.
@thewiirocks
@thewiirocks 3 года назад
@@demacherius1 That's ridiculous. You're massively overestimating the explosive power (assuming all the uranium concentrated during a launch explosion... which it would not) as well as the actual fallout. A launch failure would not be good by any stretch of the imagination. But practically it would be one of those, "caused 15 more cancers than expected over the next 20 years" type of things.
@demacherius1
@demacherius1 3 года назад
@@thewiirocks I wasn't actualy concerned about the explosion. I just dont think that it is a good thing to have Uranium spead over a massive area. Isn't that a problem ?
@chrisgeimke1371
@chrisgeimke1371 3 года назад
Hearing “1% the speed of light” is just...nuts. I can’t wrap my brain around that
@mikldude9376
@mikldude9376 3 года назад
no doubt 1% speed would be better than our current snails pace, we should be aiming higher though, let's be downright ambitious and go for 5% 😁.
@subliminalvibes
@subliminalvibes 3 года назад
Crazy huh!?! Even just 1% of the speed of light could get you from New York City in New York to Tampa in Florida, AND BACK... in one second. 1% light speed is 1,860 miles per second... So London to New York in just under 2 seconds! At the speed of light that same trip from London to New York would happen in just 19 milliseconds (nineteen one-thousandths of a second). Easy to miss your stop. 🤣
@johndododoe1411
@johndododoe1411 3 года назад
@@subliminalvibes It's not the travel speed, it's the ship-relative exhaust speed. Should still be enough to accelerate beyond that speed.
@josephking6515
@josephking6515 3 года назад
@@subliminalvibes Think you are missing a couple of zeros in the speed. 🤦‍♂️ 😀
@oldfrend
@oldfrend 3 года назад
@@josephking6515 no he's not. speed of light is 186,000 miles per second. 1% of that - remove two zeroes. 1,860 miles per second. if you're going to be a pedant, at least be right.
@canadianragin
@canadianragin 3 года назад
I don’t want to imagine what a “hard start” would look like for this
@TheVillainInGlasses
@TheVillainInGlasses 3 года назад
How would you even throttle something like this?
@Martinit0
@Martinit0 3 года назад
@@TheVillainInGlasses Probably diluting the U salt concentration by mixing pure water in
@killman369547
@killman369547 3 года назад
@@TheVillainInGlasses probably by simply decreasing the amount of fuel flowing in. The engine would only be throttleable up to a certain point, below which the engine would flame out because there isn't enough fuel to maintain criticality. This could be overcome possibly by increasing the concentration of fissile material in the fuel as needed to keep the engines running at the lower throttle settings.
@Rickenbacker69
@Rickenbacker69 3 года назад
@@TheVillainInGlasses You can probably vary the amount of water being pumped in to a certain extent, while still keeping the reaction inside the nozzle. But if you set it up to create an average acceleration of 1G or so, there's really no need to throttle it.
@Mic_Glow
@Mic_Glow 3 года назад
@@TheVillainInGlasses change the pure water/ salt ratio or, more likely, adjust neutron emitters/ absorbers near the nozzle. Changing fuel flow isn't an option I think since you need constant fuel flow to stop reaction from going into the fuel line. Can also use electromagnets to divert plasma flow a bit, everything that goes to the side doesn't provide thrust.
@ddt77ta
@ddt77ta 3 года назад
Scott Manley boosts my passion for hard sci-fi. Thanks
@motmontheinternet
@motmontheinternet 3 года назад
3:16 "This is obviously a technical challenge, but that's a whole nother video" Okay so when is that coming?
@foty8679
@foty8679 3 года назад
30 years like fusion
@neniAAinen
@neniAAinen 3 года назад
No one seriously opened research on this. No need - no progress - no estimates
@TheShowdown16
@TheShowdown16 3 года назад
@@foty8679 So more like 300?
@julesverne4339
@julesverne4339 3 года назад
@@foty8679 not to mention, that we have had fusion for many years, just not the ones that produces more energies than input.
@kangirigungi
@kangirigungi 3 года назад
"non-stop Chernobyl" ... "depending on how you do your math" ... "Fly safe!"
@britishneko3906
@britishneko3906 3 года назад
seems like another nuke plane than a rocket
@stephenferrell3438
@stephenferrell3438 3 года назад
Right, time to kickstart this project!
@sethapex9670
@sethapex9670 Год назад
You can also get the water flow rate to increase by simply restricting the flow cross section after the boron lined section of pipe, sort of like a venturi in a carburetor but with positive pressure at the inlet rather than positive pressure. You could even feed in a more concentrated nuclear fuel-water mix to better control the rate of reaction.
@kasuraga
@kasuraga 3 года назад
5:40 So they run it at melt down levels while pumping water through it so it all goes ZOOM instead of BOOM
@Lemurion287
@Lemurion287 3 года назад
No, they run it at nuclear explosion levels meltdown levels are too tame.
@MrWooaa
@MrWooaa 3 года назад
Basically, yes.
@TauCu
@TauCu 3 года назад
and hope they don't forget the Z
@makecba
@makecba 3 года назад
9:50 "it's like a non stop Chernobyl going on" well sign me up then
@nuclearmedicineman6270
@nuclearmedicineman6270 3 года назад
I'm in too; what could possibly go wrong?
@kazedcat
@kazedcat 3 года назад
@@nuclearmedicineman6270 You refuel with premium weapons grade propellant.
@beansdad70
@beansdad70 3 года назад
@@kazedcat Generates 1.21 gigawatts.
@yellekc
@yellekc 3 года назад
@@kazedcat Miss mars colony, end up in alpha centauri
@P3x310
@P3x310 3 года назад
"The Chernobyl Drive" is the way to the future. A future in space!
@Olebull93
@Olebull93 3 года назад
Oxford English Dictionary lists that the slang word salty means: angry, irritated or hostile. This propulsion system is driven by the power of irritation, anger and hostility.
@johndododoe1411
@johndododoe1411 2 года назад
A key linguistic reference for that meaning of "salty" is a US news article describing a German politician named Adolf.
@Idalb0e
@Idalb0e 3 года назад
I hold not an ounce of irony when I say: Ok this is epic
@AlexanderBatyr
@AlexanderBatyr 3 года назад
KSP 2: We're going to postpone the release one more time for the sake of continuous Kernobyl.
@a64738
@a64738 3 года назад
:) Most Kerbal enigne of all time :)
@backyardretards5684
@backyardretards5684 3 года назад
@@a64738 only second to the Orion drive :p
@marty2129
@marty2129 3 года назад
@@backyardretards5684 Actually, "riding a nuke stream" sounds mundane to "riding two non-stop chernobyls at once"
@meusana3681
@meusana3681 3 года назад
worth the wait honestly
@jamesleadley7872
@jamesleadley7872 3 года назад
"Fly safe" seems less appropriate when discussing nuclear rockets
@cake6476
@cake6476 3 года назад
It's perfectly safe, just don't come within 100 kilometers of anything living, use a secondary shuttle to dock with stations, AND FOR KRAKEN'S SAKE STAY BEHIND THE SHADOW-SHIELD!
@rustyhorse8468
@rustyhorse8468 3 года назад
No. It is much more appropriate wish when riding a nuclear rocket.
@S1nwar
@S1nwar 2 года назад
5:05 this design is so insane, the entire fuel tank would have to contain some kind of Boron foam to absorb neutrons and as the graphic shows all the plumbing would also have to be filled with boron tubes
@PapaOscarNovember
@PapaOscarNovember Год назад
Or you’d have to dissolve uranium salt in some eutectic metal alloy so that uranium ion is always surrounded by dense liquid metal.
@Sirmellowman
@Sirmellowman 2 года назад
it truly saddens me that we have these possibilities to make engines like this enabling access to the entire solar system and there isnt a single group actively exploring making such a thing.
@kadian3904
@kadian3904 2 года назад
all it is going to take is for us to actually get out there in space to build research and development facilities out there where the risk to human settlements is a non issue and things like this will rapidly develop and be put into use. Nations get itchy when you start fooling around with fissile materials...but in space no one can hear your man made sun go boom.
@ricomotions5416
@ricomotions5416 2 года назад
the biggest problem is your rocket exploding during launch
@lukasvandewiel860
@lukasvandewiel860 Год назад
Sadly, we rather beat each over the head over arguments about imaginary friends.
@dylanroemmele906
@dylanroemmele906 10 месяцев назад
@@lukasvandewiel860 yeah because we still totally live during the medieval crusades. You fucking reddit athiests are so weird man, no government that has access to rocket technology is crying about religious issues. You callout others for living in a delusion when you are actually living in it, the pot is calling the kettle black so hard right now holy shit.
@SkulShurtugalTCG
@SkulShurtugalTCG 3 года назад
If it's crazy and it works, it's not crazy.
@commerce-usa
@commerce-usa 3 года назад
True. It seems the most amazing things humans do, most often, come from the craziest things we do.
@aspuzling
@aspuzling 3 года назад
I'm pretty sure this is crazy either way.
@charksey
@charksey 3 года назад
Computers are just rocks that we put lightning into. Still crazy. The internet is sending lightning between rocks so they all blink in a way that we like. Still crazy.
@richardpoynton4026
@richardpoynton4026 3 года назад
If it’s crazy and it works, it’s not KAABOOOOOMMMM !!!
@Script_Mak3r
@Script_Mak3r 3 года назад
If it's crazy and it works, it's still crazy, you just got lucky.
@fhmconsulting4982
@fhmconsulting4982 3 года назад
Certain chillies have the same effect in my exhaust nozzle.
@michaelmoorrees3585
@michaelmoorrees3585 3 года назад
So when we do get to Mars, and meet you there, we've been warned. Take some grub, for the return trip.
@johnladuke6475
@johnladuke6475 3 года назад
Well now you know the answer, you need to install some jets of water to act as a buffer around your overly-energetic exhaust to prevent erosion of your nozzle. Please post a picture of your doctor's face if you ask for those to be installed.
@ptrsrrll
@ptrsrrll 3 года назад
Classic !!🤣
@theravedaddy
@theravedaddy 3 года назад
@@johnladuke6475 theres people on facebook that offer that service
@vijeshkumar692
@vijeshkumar692 3 года назад
Good, you don't need a jetpack
@pawnagor
@pawnagor 3 года назад
Thank you for excellent content, Scott! I recently discovered your channel and I'm so happy that I did!
@mamulcahy
@mamulcahy 3 года назад
Scott, I learn something from every video you produce. Thank you!
@marcbotnope1728
@marcbotnope1728 3 года назад
This is actually a viable Torchship.... quick tell ELON about it.
@David-hx4gw
@David-hx4gw 3 года назад
If he even mentioned this, I can’t imagine the clickbait arrival titles that would quickly follow 😂
@1515Steve1515
@1515Steve1515 3 года назад
Mabey wait until he’s safely on Mars to give him ideas about continuous Chernobyl rocket tech.
@Egilhelmson
@Egilhelmson 3 года назад
> This is actually a viable Torchship A shame that Heinlein never had children to see that. Seriously, what is the purpose of all that swapping that he and Ginny did if not to guarantee offspring?
@Skylancer727
@Skylancer727 3 года назад
Elon has openly said they are not interesting in researching experimental propulsion systems. He basically said they wouldn't even invest in aerojet rocket engines till NASA does it first. They are in the business of bringing the cost down and getting government delays out of space programs, not redefining space travel. You can argue reusing rockets yes but NASA has always said that was viable and never did it.
@revenevan11
@revenevan11 3 года назад
@@Skylancer727 yep, he's a businessman willing to try some risky things, and while he's a bit of a visionary at times when it comes to the amount of stuff in space in the near future (but more of a bulk and low cost approach than a new tech approach); he's still a businessman at the end of the day. The genius imo of things like starship and the methane/LOX full flow staged combustion engines is that it's taking existing materials knowledge and trying something new, and a new approach to launch with it, so it can be physically prototyped and tested for speedy development instead of potentially nearly a century of R&D for completely new propulsion tech, which NASA is in a better position to work on. Good to see someone else who finally understands the (hopeful) continuing relationship of commercial spaceflight and NASA and the role they both have to play in our wonderful future! 🚀🌌🤩😁
@jacobtierney4419
@jacobtierney4419 3 года назад
"Non-Stop Chernobyl" is a great band name.
@Theodorus5
@Theodorus5 3 года назад
haha :)
@Sarruji
@Sarruji 3 года назад
I always thought a good one was ICBF. Intercontinental Ballistic Fist
@Chris.Davies
@Chris.Davies 3 года назад
That design is crazy. Such a rocket engine would need to be designed to be much smaller so that the craft operates as a torch ship. Because even if you can only generate a small thrust, it changes life on board dramatically.
@leechjim8023
@leechjim8023 Год назад
What is a torch ship?
@aggromando7323
@aggromando7323 3 года назад
That was really well explained. Thanks!
@Kiwjtastic
@Kiwjtastic 3 года назад
Funny enough, the first time I heard of the Orion project I did ask myself: why not use a constant explosion instead of individual ones? Looks like somebody did think of that, 30 years ago.
@JFrazer4303
@JFrazer4303 3 года назад
Because its extremely difficult, because fission explosions are easy and very well known.
@GermanTopGameTV
@GermanTopGameTV 3 года назад
Peter, the thing you are missing is the idea of a continuous reaction. Instead of a handgrenade, which explodes as a single unit, think of a jar of gunpowder. Regardless of size of the gunpowder jar, it will burn and explode when ignited, but with a variation in intensity. The thing about nuclear chain reactions is, however, on stark contrast to chemical reactions that they follow an extremely nonlinear yield. While you could argue that pounds of TNT release about double of what one pound releases, a nuclear bomb of twice the Uranium might yield more then 10 times the explosive energy since it reacted much more material. Criticality is the most important measure. The idea here is to create an area in the engine bell in which there is enough fissable material present to create a runaway fission reaction, but also pump out the fuel fast enough to make sure this runaway reaction doesn't proper gate back into your tanks. Like a flamethrower that shoots out a stream of petrol, it would be very uncomfortable if the flame made it up the stream and into the tanks. Mediating the main propergation method of nuclear reactions, slow neutron density, is crucial here but can be achieved as Scott stated.
@draco_2727
@draco_2727 3 года назад
"I'm Scott Manley, explode safe 🚀🔥💥💥💥💥" xD
@deanlawson6880
@deanlawson6880 3 года назад
What a fascinating video! Thanks for this Scott!!
@GEScott71
@GEScott71 3 года назад
This is the coolest rocket video ever - thank you Scott Manley! Finally all the sci-fi nuclear (implied or explicitly stated) rocket engines make sense!!!
@Kiwjtastic
@Kiwjtastic 3 года назад
"Stage separation successful, Chernobyl thrusters ignition in t minus 10, 9, ..."
@fallinginthed33p
@fallinginthed33p 3 года назад
There's no need to hit the AZ-5 button this time, comrade.
@britishneko3906
@britishneko3906 3 года назад
hmm... I think if thr bigger thruster is called "KV2" because KV2 shoots nuke moare powerful than tsar bomba in paper
@thirteenthandy
@thirteenthandy 3 года назад
Okay, that was a cool video. This is the first time I can remember in my life feeling like anything measured in light years distant maybe worth paying attention to.
@youtubevanced4900
@youtubevanced4900 3 года назад
Yep. Scientists often look at and talk about distant galaxies and stars and I've really started to think, who cares. It's all too far away to ever be reachable so all the theories will remain as theoretical with no way to prove the reality. Feels like they should just concentrate on our solar system as that's all we will ever be able to get too.
@thirteenthandy
@thirteenthandy 3 года назад
@@youtubevanced4900 The technology described in this video aside, those distant galaxies aren't even observable on a planetary scale, let alone reachable! That's what's really making me uninterested. They could be teeming with life and we would never know or be able to communicate and make ourselves known outside of multigenerational efforts. If there is truly a technology to bring these distances into our capacity to bridge, then they'll have my attention.
@Ryan-rq6dx
@Ryan-rq6dx 3 года назад
I would suggest the channel isaac aurthor. He does science and futurism.
@thirteenthandy
@thirteenthandy 3 года назад
I will still say, however, that anything 100+ light-years away is ridiculous to get excited about when media says "potentially Earth-like planet!"
@youtubevanced4900
@youtubevanced4900 3 года назад
@Maylevka May Theorise their composition. Without actually testing them directly they won't know for certain.
@kstaxman2
@kstaxman2 2 года назад
As always your videos reach an amazing mix of science fiction and the physically possible. Thanks for giving us a reason to dream.
@leonmanson596
@leonmanson596 3 года назад
Great video Scott! Perhaps you could do a follow-up covering the fission-fragment rocket?
@markfrench8892
@markfrench8892 3 года назад
OMG! Someone finally referred to the Nevada Test Site as "Jackass Flats," it's correct name. Thank you, Scott.
@Walter-Montalvo
@Walter-Montalvo 3 года назад
Huh, didn't know that!
@reaganturley2836
@reaganturley2836 3 года назад
@@Walter-Montalvo Not for the whole site, just that part. Most of the nuclear testing was in Yucca Flats
@brettwarren5976
@brettwarren5976 3 года назад
*its
@ronaldgarrison8478
@ronaldgarrison8478 3 года назад
Great name for an apartment complex with a college student population and a constant supply of free ice beer.
@johndemeritt3460
@johndemeritt3460 3 года назад
@@ronaldgarrison8478, talk about a critical mass -- of stupid!
@ismailnyeyusof3520
@ismailnyeyusof3520 3 года назад
The specific impulse figure is so insane, it’s got to be done! Space here we come!
@beanslinger4616
@beanslinger4616 3 года назад
Nyoom
@grproteus
@grproteus 3 года назад
here we come (in tiny radioactive pieces)
@scottarmstrong5607
@scottarmstrong5607 3 года назад
@@grproteus We are already tiny radioactive pieces, we are made of the products of thermonuclear reactions already. It is trivial to build shielding between the engine and passenger compartment on such a spaceship as this, and the fuel "tank" will do this for us anyway.
@calvinl2149
@calvinl2149 3 года назад
Always enjoy and learn from your videos. Would love to see a follow-up video to this that references how realistic the "Pathfinder" shuttle using a Nerva engine from the show "For All Mankind" is.
@Carter-dv4hz
@Carter-dv4hz 3 года назад
"Its like a nonstop chernobyl going on" :D probably not the best marketing
@themarveluniverseonline
@themarveluniverseonline 3 года назад
Thermal taps from the external reaction could literally power the rest of the ship. Why let all that radio active energy go to waste?
@Rickenbacker69
@Rickenbacker69 3 года назад
You'd still need to power it somehow when the engine is off. But that sounds like a relatively minor problem.
@Tonatsi
@Tonatsi 3 года назад
@@Rickenbacker69 batteries
@killman369547
@killman369547 2 года назад
@@Rickenbacker69 When the main engines are shut down a standard fission reactor could take over powering the ship.
@busteraycan
@busteraycan 2 года назад
@@killman369547 That would be too heavy. You probably don't need that much power to begin with.
@kamenwaticlients
@kamenwaticlients 2 года назад
Maybe take a small amount of the fuel and let react or near reaction under control and use it for power
@lookabomba32
@lookabomba32 3 года назад
"It's like Chernobyl but in space" Chernobyl: Am I getting a sci fi sequel?
@hellacoorinna9995
@hellacoorinna9995 3 года назад
Antimatter matters
@quentinking4351
@quentinking4351 3 года назад
Chernobyl 2: Outer Space Boogaloo
@britishneko3906
@britishneko3906 3 года назад
@@quentinking4351 Chernobyl 3: mars is gone
@britishneko3906
@britishneko3906 3 года назад
@sadi muntakim Chernobyl 5: we fucked it up more and we turned the sun into a red star with the mass of 100 million normal suns
@mikhailiagacesa3406
@mikhailiagacesa3406 3 года назад
"HAL! Throttle down the engine..." "I'm sorry, Dave, but I WANNA GO FAST!"
@DawnUSNvet
@DawnUSNvet 3 года назад
I think it can only have one speed... wide open. otherwise, the reaction might take place in the fuel delivery lines?
@XavierBetoN
@XavierBetoN 2 года назад
This is astonishing marble of engineering. Loved the concept. Hope it'll never get abandoned like the "Nerva" engines.
@GwynRosaire
@GwynRosaire 3 года назад
As a professional nuclear rocket scientist, I approve this message.
@casacara
@casacara 3 года назад
NSWR: the closest we could get to interplanetary torches in any near future vehicles. Also extremely scary.
@badbeardbill9956
@badbeardbill9956 3 года назад
Orion though. Mini-Mag Orion though...
@casacara
@casacara 3 года назад
@@badbeardbill9956 possible, but mini mag faces challenges yet to be solved
@billsugden3734
@billsugden3734 3 года назад
Just don't stand behind it too close, like 50 miles?
@ThePrisoner881
@ThePrisoner881 3 года назад
Scary only to those who don't understand nuclear reactions. This is not a bomb. If used in space, the radiological hazards are insignificant, especially when things like solar flares and CME's can fry you far more easily. It is a mark of ignorance to fear something you don't understand. The US Navy has used nucelar power for decades without a serious accident. Nuclear power, applied properly and with respect for its power, is nothing to be afraid of. If we are ever to leave this planet, nuclear energy of some kind will be the way we do it. Chemical propulsion is too impractical for interplanetary travel to say nothing of interstellar travel.
@kazedcat
@kazedcat 3 года назад
@@ThePrisoner881 The scary part is the tank that store all those salt water propellant. If something happens to you neutron absorbent lining. You have a spaceship size nuke.
@christheswiss390
@christheswiss390 2 года назад
Love the video - and the always well placed sarcasm!
@dukeshaver199
@dukeshaver199 2 года назад
That was such a cool video Scott! Wow that was freaking amazing. You know some smart kid is actually going to perfect this and send us on our way with the 90% uranium mixture. Star Trek here we come!
@darkcharzard88
@darkcharzard88 3 года назад
Scott Manley is the one youtube channel I'm still coming back to after years and years. You're always relevant. Because space travel will always be relevant.
@CheshireNoir
@CheshireNoir 3 года назад
Have done a presentation at a Sci Fi convention about these drives. They're my favourite "You think NERVA rockets are scary? What to you get a load of one of THESE babies!" rockets.
@owensspace
@owensspace 3 года назад
I really enjoyed this video. Very well done 👍
@dudesweetpro
@dudesweetpro 2 года назад
Most interesting engine video in a while!!!
@windsaw151
@windsaw151 3 года назад
"comes from solar panels soaking up the sun" Phrased like that it sounds like solar panels are some kind of doomsday device.
@Kyle-gw6qp
@Kyle-gw6qp 3 года назад
I mean they are stealing some of the sun's energy...
@mrflippant
@mrflippant 3 года назад
Or maybe the panels are spending a week at an all-inclusive beach-side resort?
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 3 года назад
Well, if you were a paper towel maker, "soaking up" and "blotting out" are basically the same thing...
@zolikoff
@zolikoff 3 года назад
Well if you put enough solar panels at L1, you can literally take away the Earth's sunlight and doom it to freeze to death, so... Yeah.
@Treblaine
@Treblaine 3 года назад
The way some people talk about nuclear power you'd think that is what solar panels are doing.
@handlebarfox2366
@handlebarfox2366 3 года назад
So essentially, not only is your fuel hypergolic, it's a fission bomb.
@badbeardbill9956
@badbeardbill9956 3 года назад
Nah. A bomb uses fast neutrons. This is more like a nuclear deflagration than a detonation... though ofc sent through a rocket nozzle
@jamesdyhouse2490
@jamesdyhouse2490 2 года назад
But why can't a fission reaction be used to make a fusion rocket?
@damagingthebrand7387
@damagingthebrand7387 Год назад
@@jamesdyhouse2490 I am probably wrong, but I think there is a group working on a z-pinch drive where you spit out D-D pellets and z-pinch them to criticality as they eject. Is that kind of a pulse fusion version of this?
@nastykerb34
@nastykerb34 Год назад
@@jamesdyhouse2490 u are dumb fission and fusion is the exact opposite
@reznikvolodymyr8145
@reznikvolodymyr8145 Год назад
@@jamesdyhouse2490 Yes, and to use heavy water instead of simple water =)
@chrissinclair4442
@chrissinclair4442 3 года назад
I love your videos and am glad you do them.
@deusexaethera
@deusexaethera 3 года назад
5:50 - "Liquid Chernobyl" has a nice ring to it.
@nagasako7
@nagasako7 3 года назад
Is name of Taco Bell food next morning
@Forge366
@Forge366 3 года назад
"the majority of the reaction will happen where you want it to" ... and the small minority will be occurring where?
@nuclearmedicineman6270
@nuclearmedicineman6270 3 года назад
It's best not to think about that, and just learn to live with extra limbs.. or possibly superpowers.
@eleSDSU
@eleSDSU 3 года назад
Everywhere else around you.
@notlogical4016
@notlogical4016 3 года назад
live and let live, dont question it.
@machineball
@machineball 3 года назад
likely in the portion of the pipe just before the primary reaction zone
@ericg7044
@ericg7044 3 года назад
@@nuclearmedicineman6270 Username checks out?
@allanchurm
@allanchurm 2 года назад
loved the explanation thank you
@hannzebe
@hannzebe 2 года назад
Thanks, really interesting option for future interstellar probes -most realistic I've seen. Thanks for a good explanation.
@Seethenhagen
@Seethenhagen 3 года назад
I bet in my lifetime we'll have a nuclear version of the Titanic or Hindenburg on a trip through the Astroid belt to Mars
@PotentiallyAndy
@PotentiallyAndy 3 года назад
Marketing department: Erm .... May I suggest we pick different names for the space craft... just you know ... for the brochures.
@Artemis0713
@Artemis0713 3 года назад
To be fair if they're in the asteroid belt, on a trip to Mars, I'm pretty sure they need a new astrogator
@mortisCZ
@mortisCZ 3 года назад
@@Artemis0713 The plot thickens by the minute! It's like a nuclear pudding. :-D
@alexsiemers7898
@alexsiemers7898 3 года назад
@@PotentiallyAndy no, they’re picking those names for a reason. It seems like a risk worth taking until it isn’t
@JosePineda-cy6om
@JosePineda-cy6om 3 года назад
Not necessarily - they could've gotten therebfirst to gather water, iron and radioactive ores to build the steff they'll use in the actual descent to Mars. It'd be way cheaper to source materials from the asteroids than to ship it from Earth
@marijnjc
@marijnjc 3 года назад
We used to sail across the Atlantic with just the wind and we look at these people with sails like future generations are looking at us being creative with gravity assists.
@fallinginthed33p
@fallinginthed33p 3 года назад
Sailing didn't leave a wake of radioactive waste behind it.
@marijnjc
@marijnjc 3 года назад
@@fallinginthed33p the radiation in space will be almost nothing, will shoot out of the solar system very quickly besides.. space is full of radiation.
@thomastudu2977
@thomastudu2977 2 года назад
Really loved it man ❤️!
@hectorkeezy1499
@hectorkeezy1499 3 года назад
Hi Scott, and happy new year to you. That was the most thrilling video you have made so far. The thought that it could actually, definately maybe, be done give goose bumps. 👍🏻🎆. 🇩🇰🙋🏻‍♂️🌞👩🏻‍🚀🇺🇸
@paulbennett4548
@paulbennett4548 3 года назад
All I can see is Yosemite Sam: "Woe ship, WOE SHIP! when ah say's WOE, Ah means WOE!" :o)
@hankrearden20
@hankrearden20 3 года назад
I like this. And a big old cartoon mallet.
@exidy-yt
@exidy-yt 3 года назад
Whoa.
@paulbennett4548
@paulbennett4548 3 года назад
@@exidy-yt Thanks. Sam " Ah hates when that happens" ( see years of watching Loony tunes has no lasting side effects :o)
@dannybell926
@dannybell926 3 года назад
Hilarious! Shame most of the folks here in the comments have likely never spent a Saturday morning watching Looney toons
@exidy-yt
@exidy-yt 3 года назад
@@dannybell926 This channel? I am pretty sure it's viewership skews older then most channels. I'll bet alot of viewers recognize it. I grinned, even as I pedantically corrected the OP's spelling. ;-)
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