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The object we thought was impossible 

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Steffen's polyhedron is a flexible concave polyhedron. Euler thought such a shape was impossible. I also show infinitesimally flexible polyhedrons and bistable polyhedrons.
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@SteveMould
@SteveMould Год назад
* polyhedrons - it's a valid plural and I'm taking it out for a spin. The sponsor is Incogni: the first 100 people to use code SCIENCE at the link below will get 60% off: incogni.com/science
@StarkRG
@StarkRG Год назад
It might be valid (inasmuch as English doesn't have any official rules so anything's valid as long as more than one person agrees) but it's still weird to hear. It feels like when someone says vertexes, matrixes (unless they're referring to the movies), or phenomenons.
@derroz3157
@derroz3157 Год назад
i NEED A Candle
@BruceElliott
@BruceElliott Год назад
It's "polyhedra", and that's the hill I'm prepared to die on.
@theCidisIn
@theCidisIn Год назад
Did you say Stephens polyhedron? Edit: Sorry, I looked at the description and you said it's called Steffan's polyhedron.
@danielguy3581
@danielguy3581 Год назад
@@BruceElliott No, you may not die on that hill. Only after you've fought over each and every Latin and Greek word being formed as plurals in English according to the rules of their origin language, when you've reddened the craggy landscape with your lifeblood, at last uttering your final grammatical gasp, do you have my permission to die on that hill.
@BeefinOut
@BeefinOut Год назад
Every neuron in my brain is screaming "IT'S JUST FLEXING WITHIN THE TOLERANCE OF THE IMPERFECT PRINT" which I know isn't the case, but I can't NOT see it that way
@accuwau
@accuwau Год назад
exactlyyy!
@krallopian
@krallopian Год назад
Same!
@thePronto
@thePronto Год назад
Or in the rigidity of the material.
@columbus8myhw
@columbus8myhw Год назад
That's the infinitesimal one later on!
@GeezRvonFart
@GeezRvonFart Год назад
Same here... in my limited mind the tolerances play a part, but at the same time, material flex must also play a part... instant head ache
@Rukalin
@Rukalin Год назад
The little stretchiness in the triangle you were talking about reminds me of illegal Lego builds where people combine many small Lego pieces in patterns so they bend and create curved surfaces
@SteveMould
@SteveMould Год назад
Yes!
@retro4711
@retro4711 Год назад
"illegal lego builds" i love it 😂❤
@laureng2110
@laureng2110 Год назад
​@@retro4711That's what the Lego company calls them! It means they won't use these techniques in an official set, usually because they aren't stable or can get stuck.
@retro4711
@retro4711 Год назад
@@laureng2110 i didn't know that, thanks! When I read "illegal builds" i couldn't help but imagine the lego police busting through my door because I built something using a forbidden technique :D
@JamesScholesUK
@JamesScholesUK Год назад
​@@retro4711 this will be a B-story in the Lego Movie 7
@Braincain007
@Braincain007 Год назад
I always love it when you and Matt pop up in each other's videos :D
@standupmaths
@standupmaths Год назад
Magic!
@gorden2500
@gorden2500 Год назад
@@standupmaths was that a Parker card trick?
@Barnaclebeard
@Barnaclebeard Год назад
"Mathematician's bad sleight of hand," sounded entirely reasonable. I didn't suspect it was a set up at all. Very funny.
@standupmaths
@standupmaths Год назад
@@gorden2500Parker card illusion.
@kiddor3
@kiddor3 Год назад
Spoilers!!!
@chrisburn7178
@chrisburn7178 Год назад
The infinitesimally rigid polyhedrons which flex in the real world remind me of (I think) a practical application of this, which is "negative stiffness isolators". The object to be isolated from vibration is mounted to metal flexures (at the centre of the polyhedron that "pops" in and out like the fresh seal on a jam jar lid). This means that the deflection can actually increase as the force decreases, over a portion of the stiffness curve. They are very useful for extreme sensitivity environments where vibration on the order of 0.1 micrometres/s RMS velocity can be detrimental, and for high frequency vibration that active isolation can't respond to.
@IdentifiantE.S
@IdentifiantE.S Год назад
Oh thats interesting man !
@frozenturtl827
@frozenturtl827 8 месяцев назад
I can’t completely understand wtf u just said but the parts I do sound neat. Ima need to see this for myself now lol
@Alex_192.
@Alex_192. 6 месяцев назад
Polyhedra*
@bellytripper-nh8ox
@bellytripper-nh8ox 5 месяцев назад
Replying to @chrisburn7178: SARZHERFLURGERFLARRBZHSHAR?
@RichUncleGhostMutt
@RichUncleGhostMutt 5 месяцев назад
Heaps interesting cheers
@Bob78
@Bob78 8 месяцев назад
Weird flex, but ok.
@williamroe8905
@williamroe8905 4 месяца назад
Lol
@shoty_x1693
@shoty_x1693 4 месяца назад
Legendary comment
@normalgraham
@normalgraham 4 месяца назад
😂
@Nick-the-fox
@Nick-the-fox 4 месяца назад
Badum tss
@Kittycat-mr4im
@Kittycat-mr4im 3 месяца назад
This comment is copied
@tammyhollandaise
@tammyhollandaise Год назад
I remember making "hexa-flexagons" in school. They're technically six tetrahedrons attached to each other, but are pretty fun to play with.
@The_Moth1
@The_Moth1 Год назад
*Memories of Vihart*
@sophiedowney1077
@sophiedowney1077 Год назад
​@@The_Moth1I just showed my dad the vihart hexaflexagon video yesterday. It's kind of funny seeing it brought up a decade later.
@K.D.Fischer_HEPHY
@K.D.Fischer_HEPHY Год назад
Weird "flex" but OK. ;-)
@tammyhollandaise
@tammyhollandaise Год назад
@@sophiedowney1077 strange... I didn't realize there was a 2D-ish version. The ones we made are always 3D with regular tetrahedrons.
@LucianLazuli
@LucianLazuli 11 месяцев назад
im glad im not the only one@@The_Moth1
@MrGatlin98
@MrGatlin98 Год назад
I wasn't convinced until I saw the simulation. This feels like tolerance problems in the 3D printed joints. It only makes sense in my head when it's a simulation with rigid definitions that aren't allowed to flex or stretch.
@iout
@iout Год назад
I was thinking the same thing at first, but you gotta realize that they probably proved this stuff mathematically a while ago. Making it physically is just a fun bonus step.
@jasond4084
@jasond4084 Год назад
“They probably proved” is not “There’s a proof over here they are referencing”. If I know Steve he will realize he has to show the proof. *I don’t know Steve at all. 😅
@WLxMusic
@WLxMusic Год назад
it slides though
@iout
@iout Год назад
@@jasond4084 ​The actual proof is probably really long and opaque, not worth referencing in full in a quick, 9 minute, general audience video. But Steve does give enough information in the video to look it up for yourself if you were so inclined: 2:48 - the polyhedron in question was discovered by Klaus Steffen in 1978 and is known as Steffen's polyhedron.
@jasond4084
@jasond4084 Год назад
@@iout it wasn’t clear in the video that the printed version and the proven version were the same. I thought this was a new find. But okeeee. Thanks
@MrRyanroberson1
@MrRyanroberson1 Год назад
6:44 i'm surprised you didn't think of the dodecahedron. any pentagonal face, when removed, if it permits flexibility will permit two degrees of freedom.
@haphazard1342
@haphazard1342 Год назад
This makes intuitive sense: the pentagonal face can be broken up into multiple independent triangles, which thus can easily have their own flexibility. Since they do not share an unconstrained edge. I'm not sure if this is necessarily true independence, since the flexibility likely transfers through the rest of the body, but in the real world with the amount of flex in models the amount of movement transfer may be negligible. We can rephrase the question, then: does there exist any polyhedron where the removal of two faces results in only a single degree of freedom introduced? If not, then the polygonal face question becomes irrelevant, since any polygonal face can be divided into triangular faces: structurally the polygonal version and the triangulated version are equivalent when the faces constituting the polygon are removed.
@joshualucas1821
@joshualucas1821 Год назад
@@haphazard1342 A cube with two opposite faces removed has 1 degree of freedom
@cthonianmessiah
@cthonianmessiah Год назад
I was thinking along similar lines, although I didn't work toward a minimal example - I just thought "OK, cut an icosahedron in half such that one face is much larger than the others and has a bunch of vertices, then remove it and there must be a way to get multiple degrees of freedom out of this".
@krzysztofsuchecki4967
@krzysztofsuchecki4967 Год назад
A pyramid, but with penta-, hexa- or more-gon as a base instead of square would become a flappy umbrella with increasingly more degrees of freedom (as the number of vertices increases) when the base is removed, wouldn't it ?
@figmentincubator7980
@figmentincubator7980 Год назад
@@krzysztofsuchecki4967 Doesn't that approach the top of a cone as the number of sides of the base increases? Intuitively I imagine a cone being rigid though I don't know if that is true. Anyways perhaps something like a pentagon base would be flexible anyways, its an interesting idea.
@paulbrooks4395
@paulbrooks4395 Год назад
I love your curiosity and desire to explore the little things that many of us think are simple. The more I learn the more depth I realize there is to unlock.
@nhand42
@nhand42 Год назад
Ivan Miranda deserves far more subscribers than he currently has. He's been building amazing machines and prints for years and he's always enthusiastic.
@geort45
@geort45 Год назад
gigantic printers and gigantic stuff
@stillbreathing80
@stillbreathing80 Год назад
This reminded me of origami, and how that can be used to demonstrate and illustrate mathematical concepts. I still have a copy of my favorite origami book from when I was a kid that actually contains a full chapter on "Beautiful Polyhedrons" that got little me asking my scientist mother math questions that she couldn't answer (which made little me feel very, very smart at the time.) They are mostly multi-sheet builds, but unitized in a way that you can easily assemble them into intriguing polyhedrons. I highly recommend "Origami Omnibus", by Kunihiko Kasahara if you can track down a copy of the 384pg tome as one of the few origami books printed in English that I've encountered that actually explores the mathematical beauty and concepts behind folding square sheets of paper. It covers everything from cute and simple animal models up through multipage books (no cutting) with a matching bookcase to store them in, and the method (and math) of using different sized paper (without rulers or calculators) to make interlocking 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, and 10 sided polygons of equal side length (pg 222) to build things like a rhombitruncated icosidodecahedron (pg 229) and the reversible stellate icosahedron (pg 234, which you can actually turn inside out and change it from flat sides into something starlike.) I'd love to see you explore some of the more technical stuff from that book. Even young kids can understand complicated subjects when they have real-world demonstrations in their hands.
@raptor2265
@raptor2265 Год назад
I have to wonder what Euler's reaction would be if you took this back through time and showed it to him.
@FreedumbHS
@FreedumbHS Год назад
He'd be like "holy shit time travel is possible?"
@jakobwachter5181
@jakobwachter5181 Год назад
"Huh."
@catfish552
@catfish552 Год назад
"Oh come ONNNN!"
@bluelemon243
@bluelemon243 Год назад
Euler was blind if remeber correctly so it would be hard to show him that lol
@Ultimaximus
@Ultimaximus Год назад
@@bluelemon243 He'd still be able to feel the shape and hold it in his hand
@robertmacpherson9044
@robertmacpherson9044 Год назад
I was struck by the passing mention of Robert Connelly. Back in the mid 90s, I made some flexible "carbon ring" models for Dr. Connelly and for a Swiss post doc named Beat Jaggi.
@huxm5259
@huxm5259 Год назад
That was quite the nostalgia hit. Those toys were one of my favorites. I remember experimenting with this exact concept, except with no language or basis to understand it. It makes me think that people could become so much smarter if they were taught on an individual level. I was probably 2 when I had these toys and I was feel like i was ready to understand these types of concepts with the right teacher.
@ElcoCanon
@ElcoCanon Год назад
wow you're so smart.
@abangfarhan1
@abangfarhan1 Год назад
Hey, do you know what those toys are called? I want to look them up on online shops.
@huxm5259
@huxm5259 Год назад
​@@ElcoCanon I'm just saying that these kinds of concepts could be learned so much earlier in life with the right teaching. This is like some late high school level stuff, but it's so easily accessible with these toys that its almost a natural progression if you play with them long enough. If you played with them as a small child all the time you would know I'm not lying. everyone does this exact thing with them but just don't develop a deeper understanding because of the lack of teaching.
@ferretyluv
@ferretyluv Год назад
These toys still exist, but they’re magnetic now. Kids love them, usually making castles.
@John-kv3do
@John-kv3do Год назад
@@abangfarhan1 Polydron
@Dee-nonamnamrson8718
@Dee-nonamnamrson8718 Год назад
What are those toys called?
@xyoxus
@xyoxus Год назад
3:27 If you have an object like this in a 3D format you can put it into software like PepakuraDesigner to get glue flaps, so you don't have to use tape to hold it together.
@gallium-gonzollium
@gallium-gonzollium Год назад
6:34 *J O I N U S*
@harmonic5107
@harmonic5107 Год назад
Seeing this reminds me of seeing those rocks that are flexible. So strange to see something that your mind does not expect to happen happen.
@bathbomber
@bathbomber Год назад
Can you tell me more about these flexible rocks?
@hadz8671
@hadz8671 Год назад
@@bathbomber Google "itacolumite"
@kirtil5177
@kirtil5177 Год назад
@@bathbomber its called Itacolumite, there are youtube videos about it. something about a solid-looking rock bending feels so unnatural (despite it being natural)
@harmonic5107
@harmonic5107 Год назад
@@kirtil5177 beat me to it, thanks!
@monhi64
@monhi64 Год назад
@@bathbomberbasically flexibility of an object is arguably more about an objects shape than it is about the physical properties. Think about a metal block and it’s not really flexible at all but make it thin, like a spring or foil and it can become very flexible. There’s a specific type of rock that has enough inherent flexibility that a regular looking centimeter thick or so sheet of it can flex around in a way that looks bizarre. What I haven’t seen more people talk about though is the fact you can make just about any rock flexible by shaping it correctly and making it thin and perhaps spring like. Those rocks specifically known for being flexible lose all of their flexibility too if they’re not shaped right and are too blocky
@MarkusSchaber
@MarkusSchaber Год назад
It's good you printed the side with the window. Otherwise, I could have suspected it's just tolerances within the hinges allowing the thing to move.
@rajeshdas8956
@rajeshdas8956 Год назад
This reminded me of cyclohexane. Used to image how it can have various shapes (conformations).
@kempshott
@kempshott Год назад
cis and trans, but those words have taken on a somewhat different meaning these days.
@entitree.
@entitree. Год назад
@@kempshott well, they're not words, they're prefixes
@Gakulon
@Gakulon Год назад
@@kempshott They took on a different meaning when they were adopted into chemistry as formal terms, too. I don't think the Romans had a significant amount of knowledge on cis and trans isomers
@ainsleybreakenridge
@ainsleybreakenridge Год назад
@@kempshottthe conformations of cyclohexane would be boat, chair, etc. maybe brush up on your ochem lol
@identiticrisis
@identiticrisis Год назад
​@@Gakulonand yet ultimately, or etymologically, they still mean exactly what they did back then. Understand the general meaning, understand every special meaning
@guest_informant
@guest_informant Год назад
"Proofs and Refutations" by Imre Lakatos, which examines the nature of mathematical progress and discovery (check it out, it's got its own Wikipedia page*) is based around a discussion of polyhedra, specifically the Euler Characteristic. *From which I learn: 'The MAA has included this book on a list of books that they consider to be "essential for undergraduate mathematics libraries"'
@goldentortoisebeetle9741
@goldentortoisebeetle9741 Год назад
I wasn’t looking for this comment but I’m glad i’ve found it. Ty.
@feelsweirdman542
@feelsweirdman542 Год назад
Matemathicians: "This is Impossible!" Guy with a 3D Printer: "Are you challenging me?"
@rassicr
@rassicr Год назад
How can you be sure the flexing isn't some kind of additive result of all the gaps in the hinges?
@maxthexpfarmer3957
@maxthexpfarmer3957 Год назад
they proved it mathematically
@nathangamble125
@nathangamble125 Год назад
Maths.
@sawyergreaves7543
@sawyergreaves7543 Год назад
You should look into auxetic structures and or negative poisson ratio materials. It feels a little bit related to this. Basically, instead of a material getting narrower across as you stretch it length wise (like how a rubber band gets thinner as you stretch it) it instead gets wider. It also feels really unnatural but they exist!
@Dana__black
@Dana__black 11 месяцев назад
I guess Euler wasn’t so smart after all
@tedtieken3592
@tedtieken3592 5 месяцев назад
If he was so smart, why aren’t more things named after him? QED.
@rangerrick5660
@rangerrick5660 4 месяца назад
What a poser
@cajuallyponk6035
@cajuallyponk6035 Год назад
Actually good to keep the infinitesimal flexibility when designing for 3d printing, had the intuition for it but having a name for things is always better for clarity of thought and communication.
@axelwickm
@axelwickm Год назад
Weird flex but ok.
@Kittycat-mr4im
@Kittycat-mr4im 3 месяца назад
Your comment was copied and it got more likes
@ivanmirandawastaken
@ivanmirandawastaken Год назад
This was definitely quite a head scratcher indeed. Flexible polyhedron 3D printed house when?
@morganmcguire1989
@morganmcguire1989 10 месяцев назад
I appreciate that this is approachable and clear without in any way dumbing down the math or avoiding terminology.
@D.E.P.-J.
@D.E.P.-J. Год назад
I don't know, but did Euler only consider convex polyhedra to be polyhedra? What was the definition of a polyhedron at his time?
@4TheRecord
@4TheRecord 4 месяца назад
0:14 I used to play with larger versions of these back in school in the late 80s.
@Barteks2x
@Barteks2x Год назад
This immediately made me wonder whether we could synthesize organic compounds with such structure and whether they would have aby unusual properties
@andywindbreaker6010
@andywindbreaker6010 Год назад
Thank Phineas & Ferb for discovering this thing that doesn't exist?
@idlewildwind
@idlewildwind Год назад
OH MY WORD thank you! I've wondered for years what that rod-and-strings contraption is, ever since I saw it on someone's desk in some movie! I even modelled it in 2D with different colours and transparencies to figure it out! (Then I didn't make one because I have neither woodworking skills nor 3D printer access but ah well.) Now that I know what it's called (Skwish!) I could actually get one. The one in the film had a big sphere in the centre, though, and none of the endcap/sliding balls. I will google this later!
@DanteYewToob
@DanteYewToob Год назад
I’ve seen it too and was curious… I can’t find one on google, if you have better luck let me know! Edit: I got it… expanded octahedron model. There is also a double expanded which is pretty awesome too!
@sonicwaveinfinitymiddwelle8555
I never thought that was impossible. I never knew it existed and I believe it does now.
@delecti
@delecti Год назад
It seems like you'd get much more wobble if the single removed face had more sides. I think you're probably right that the degrees of freedom are limited for squares or triangles. If you instead imagine two regular octahedrons as the ends of something like a prisim, but with the sides replaced triangles (like the "ring" around the middle of a regular icosohedron), then it would likely be pretty wobbly with just one face removed.
@flameofthephoenix8395
@flameofthephoenix8395 8 месяцев назад
Indeed, that would give more wobble and moreover ease of flexing, by making more sides you are decreasing the length of each side meaning that you are also decreasing the length you'd have to flex in order to get back to a stable position.
@syjj001
@syjj001 Год назад
Rest of the World: Oh look! Might be a room temp/pressure supraconductor. Steeve: How weird are these solids you ask? 😂
@claudiusraphael9423
@claudiusraphael9423 Год назад
Looks to me like the perfect wavebreaker, put in chains as bantons in tsunami-endagered coastlines, for example as anchored-chain-boeys as well. Might be a way to divert vibrations as given in shocks of an earthquake, too. In any case, thx for sharing!
@ielmosTTR
@ielmosTTR Год назад
Fun fact, the test for a structure to be not infinitesimally flexible (isostatic or iperstatic) is at the base of all structural mechanics jobs
@Reegeed
@Reegeed Год назад
I think its impossible unless removed wall has 5 sides. 6:00 you can move them independently when there are at least 5 free edges icosahedron with 5 sides removed is the same as if there was originally pentagon. Is icosahedron with pentagonal side a proof then since it fits definition of polyhedron 2:17?
@maxthexpfarmer3957
@maxthexpfarmer3957 Год назад
yea
@koharaisevo3666
@koharaisevo3666 Год назад
Wouldn't the dodecahedron's much better
@Reegeed
@Reegeed Год назад
@@koharaisevo3666 they already have pentagonal walls that are rigid on its own when 3 of them are connected
@Reegeed
@Reegeed Год назад
Every antiprizm with top and bottom wall that have 5 or more edges can do
@BjarneSvanberg
@BjarneSvanberg Год назад
When making a polyhedron flexible, you have to count the number of edges, not faces, to remove. Removing one face of a polyhedron does not change the number of edges, nor their connections, so it is actually still the same shape. That is why you observe that at least two faces has to be removed to make the shape flexible.
@EebstertheGreat
@EebstertheGreat Год назад
If you remove the base of a square pyramid, it becomes flexible. So that's a counterexample to your claim. The point is that the faces remain congruent through the whole flex, but the angles between faces change. So the removed square base can be flexed into any rhombus with that same side length.
@BjarneSvanberg
@BjarneSvanberg Год назад
Oh I guess you are right. That would probably also be the case for some polyhedrons where the faces are not a triangle.
@jozimastar95
@jozimastar95 Год назад
The shape in geometry test :
@garrettwilson4754
@garrettwilson4754 Год назад
Throwing shade at Matt Parker's card tricks, delightful
@jonbob2
@jonbob2 Год назад
We had those exact same plastic shapes in primary school. Thanks for digging up a nice memory Steve!
@cheeseburgermonkey7104
@cheeseburgermonkey7104 Год назад
I want to get my hands on these, do you know what they're called?
@petermichaelgreen
@petermichaelgreen Год назад
@@cheeseburgermonkey7104 IIRC polydon was/is the original though there are certainly other brands.
@zlcoolboy
@zlcoolboy Год назад
This is another level of nerdiness that I've never seen before. I'm glad you all can geek out over this. I find it interesting though.
@KageSama19
@KageSama19 Год назад
LMFAO @ the cut to Matt doing bad sleight of hand. That was really good 😂
@anonymousstacker2044
@anonymousstacker2044 Год назад
Whenever I've had an overdose of random YT shorts, I return to this channel to regain some brain cells.
@incinerati
@incinerati Год назад
Are you sure that the flexing is not due to the mechanical backlash?
@MeOnStuff
@MeOnStuff Год назад
The physical model should be thought of as a demonstration - not a proof. Steffen's Polyhedron has been proven mathematically to be flexible, but obviously you can't built a perfect mathematical shape in the real world.
@Zothaqqua
@Zothaqqua Год назад
For all those saying it's just imperfection that allows it to flex, please look up en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steffen%27s_polyhedron and its citations. I was also surprised.
@stevenneiman1554
@stevenneiman1554 Год назад
"A mathematician's bad sleight of hand" gave me quite a chuckle.
@jb76489
@jb76489 Год назад
I wonder how much the manufacturing tolerances play into this
@honeybee9455
@honeybee9455 Год назад
If the shape is already flexible in one degree such as the Steffens polyhedron than removing one of its faces should open a new degree of freedom. The thing is when you remove one face of a convex shape it is inherently going to remain rigid as the number of edges is the same. Until you remove one of the edges by taking off a second face you dont have a new degree of freedom.
@vijaykrishnan7797
@vijaykrishnan7797 Год назад
4:18 😂
@iseriver3982
@iseriver3982 Год назад
Someones upgraded their talking to camera set up, very nice.
@asiburger
@asiburger Год назад
Does it flex, because of material flex though, or is it genuinely moveable, JUST at the hinges?
@Errenium
@Errenium 10 месяцев назад
it works even if all faces are perfectly rigid.
@ryugar2221
@ryugar2221 Год назад
3:19 Anyone who's made a waterbomb base with origami can feel that...
@matthewstone7367
@matthewstone7367 Год назад
This is a great video. Thank you for making it!
@ViliamF.
@ViliamF. Год назад
Yay, Matt easter-egg!
@Greg-yu4ij
@Greg-yu4ij Год назад
I can’t help but watch your videos every time one pops up. It’s just too intellectually stimulating. It’s like brain candy.
@questmarq7901
@questmarq7901 Год назад
Remember that videogames use Triangles. So this geometry could revolutionize physics simulation in videogames down the line
@jenniferdunstan5065
@jenniferdunstan5065 Год назад
oooh yeah
@martinstent5339
@martinstent5339 Год назад
I have a long time relationship with this plastic toy. I get it out sometimes and just make interesting solids, like stellated and truncated platonic solids. They are just so nice to hold in your hand and contemplate. Also straight prisms and "screwthread" prisms and their chiral partners. You can spend (waste) hundreds of hours just enjoying making nice shapes!
@SephJoe
@SephJoe Год назад
Do you remember what they are called or if you can still buy them? I have been looking for them / trying to remember what they were called for years now. I used to play with them as a kid in elementary school.
@martinstent5339
@martinstent5339 Год назад
@@SephJoe I'm very sorry, but the original cardboard box disintegrated decades ago, and we just keep them in an old bucket now. I tried to find them with an internet search and failed. There are lots of kits with magnets but I couldn't find the old type which click together like in this video. If you do find a seller, I would be interested in buying some more just to make even bigger shapes!
@jonathancullis9155
@jonathancullis9155 Год назад
@@SephJoe Polydron
@silasmarrs1409
@silasmarrs1409 Год назад
I've never gotten to one of your videos this early before!
@thedarkknight1971
@thedarkknight1971 Год назад
06:34 - Steve doing a Futurama 'Hypno Toad' 🤔😏😉 🤣🤣 😎🇬🇧
@scotts918
@scotts918 Год назад
12 seconds in, damn good quality already!
@zbarba
@zbarba Год назад
I love the chain fountain standing in the background like a trophy
@35milesoflead
@35milesoflead Год назад
Hi Steve. You had me at "this is a valley fold, this is a mountain fold." Some of this can be proven via origami. There's an American origami artist called Steve Biddle who made a rotating tetrahedron. I have a book with the fold pattern in it.
@Joey_ott
@Joey_ott Год назад
matt parker cameo pulling the parker trick, enlightening
@jjvanzon79
@jjvanzon79 Год назад
Aliens must be looking at us like we're babies playing with blocks and just not quite getting it yet.
@shannonmcstormy5021
@shannonmcstormy5021 Год назад
I Love this channel. I also love robust "Description" sections on RU-vid as it allows the user to find specific content, follow suggested links to other content we might like, etc. But I have one SUGGESTION: When propagating the Description section, if this is possible, put an additional "Show Less" right next the "More" on top (as well as the one at the bottom). This would allow someone to collapse it without having to scroll all the way to the bottom to do so. (I have no idea if this is possible.) .
@DivineCerinian
@DivineCerinian Год назад
That's a suggestion for RU-vid
@menemali163
@menemali163 Год назад
Wow I've never been so early
@---..
@---.. Год назад
Mould Conjecture counterexample: Make a pyramid with a many sided base (for example a regular decagon). Remove the base polygon. The remaining shape should have many degrees of freedom. As the number of sides of the base grows, so do the degrees of freedom of this shape, without limit. For even side counts N on the base, this can be shown by bringing every other vertex together, resulting in a shape with N / 2 flaps which can rotate independently along a axis from the pyramid point the where the free vertexes were brought together. Unless I visualized it wrong, which is quite possible.
@Bolpat
@Bolpat Год назад
I have read something about flexible polyhedra, and I wondered, why in seemingly all of Wikipedia, they can’t show me a single flexible one. And now I’m angry, because the simplest ones aren’t even complicated. Thank you.
@LIES666
@LIES666 Год назад
2:47 A monster with only 18 faces? If only they'd discovered 3 more faces! Lives could have been saved.
@brandonn6099
@brandonn6099 Год назад
"Hey Matt Parker, I need you to do a slight of hand trick, but make it really bad." "It's the only way I know how."
@louisvictor3473
@louisvictor3473 Год назад
I think you can easily make as many degress of freedom as you want since it doesn't need to be a regular polyhderdon. For simplicity, start with a triangle. Now, divide each edge into 3 parts, and delete the middle one. Rotate one of the edges outwards (could be both, could be inwards, but we keeping it simple), and elongate them a little but less than the original length. Now, reconnected the two dangling vertexes with a segment, making it a polygon again (or a "triangle" with Z ish shaped edges). Now each of these trios have independent degrees of motion as a polygon, you can keep the original vertexes fixed as hinge points. Now, we move to 3D. Just pick an arbitrary height (so 1) above the figure and connect all those vertexes to it, forming a Z faced "tretrahedron". If you remove the original polygon face, you have 3 degrees of freedom. Of course, you can pull this trick with any base polygon, so you can literally have as many degrees of fredom as you'd like depending on what you start with. In fact, you didn't even need to subdivide the middle into just 3 parts, that is just the minimum. You could have subdivided each original edge into 4 or more parts, but all it means is that each sequence of 3 of those are themselves one independent degree of freedom like in the original, so you could achieve infinity degrees of fredom that way too. Except that that is mathematically identical to the original method, so it is literally the same thing just presented differently (in the original, any sequence of 3 new edges forms that Z shaped hinge and is therefore an independent degree of freedom, it doesn't need be confined to the 3 that came from the same original edge, I lied by omission for simplicity).
@PatrickOMara
@PatrickOMara Год назад
I love how @stevemould look and vibe is that he just physically finished wrestling a math problem and won.
@Alacritous
@Alacritous Год назад
I think it's only flexible because of the inaccuracy of the construction of the sides. the play in the hinges is what allows the flexibility.
@aaronale5
@aaronale5 Год назад
Or the sum of "slop" in all of the joints. Watch closely, you can see the joints stretching.
@SteveMould
@SteveMould Год назад
There's a mathematical proof that Steffen's Polyhedron is flexible
@Alacritous
@Alacritous Год назад
@@SteveMouldOf course there is. The mathematical model will be perfect. Such a thing doesn't exist in the real world. Or at least approaching it would cost more than your budget would allow.
@shayboual1892
@shayboual1892 5 месяцев назад
​@@Alacritousanything imperfect will flex more. It works in both perfect maths world and the imperfect human world
@nawabsahab6461
@nawabsahab6461 Год назад
Wow you just solved a problem we never knew existed and probably would have never known in our life.
@notacat2423
@notacat2423 Год назад
The strangest part of this is Ivan printing in a color other than red.
@jomolisious
@jomolisious Год назад
I love problems like this. that are extremely simple in asking but complicated in solving, yet the solution is something you can literally hold and not only see but literally feel in your hands. It takes away a lot of the esoteric nature from modern math and gives the feeling we’re still continuing the work of ancient mathematicians.
@natanzis
@natanzis Год назад
mould conjecture sounding as good as a parker square
@psbretones
@psbretones 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for existing, Steve Mould
@moriak123
@moriak123 Год назад
I remember that I made this or of cardboard when I was teenager, almost 40 years ago, based on one article in polish mathematical magazine "Mała Delta" (Little Delta). That was fun.
@WiseRiley
@WiseRiley Год назад
Polyhedron: **literally flexes and moves air in real world** mathematicians: “nope, not flexible”
@thedevilinthecircuit1414
@thedevilinthecircuit1414 Год назад
Used to be, most kids were very familiar with coplanar surfaces and compliant structures from a very young age. Remember the folded-paper toy called the "cootie catcher," as well as other names?
@jasonjacoby
@jasonjacoby Год назад
We called 'em Fortune Tellers.
@HandledToaster2
@HandledToaster2 Год назад
I can always count on Steve Mould to find interesting toys I never knew I needed.
@Minty1337
@Minty1337 Год назад
3:40 i recognize that cursor, Algodoo?
@kiwihuman
@kiwihuman Год назад
0:10 i made an entire suit of armour + sword out of those little plastic tiles when I was in school, I may of had to raid other classrooms for enough pieces but I got it done.
@gibble75310
@gibble75310 Год назад
that sounds freakin awesome
@kiwihuman
@kiwihuman Год назад
@@gibble75310 it was.
@TreeLuvBurdpu
@TreeLuvBurdpu Год назад
Where the heck are the 3d models for those toys? I need them immediately for my granddaughters. Going to follow the channel you mentioned.
@micahwest3566
@micahwest3566 Год назад
That jumpscare from my childhood tensegrity toy delighted me! I always know I liked that thing- but never because it involved cool maths!
@truegret7778
@truegret7778 Год назад
How does an "infinitesimally flexible joint" differ from a "compliant mechanism"? Or does it?
@nathangamble125
@nathangamble125 Год назад
They're based on concepts that are almost opposite to each other An infinitesimally flexible joint is a mathematical concept about a joint between separate rigid surfaces. They cannot exist in practice because perfectly rigid surfaces with infinitesimally small connections do not exist. A compliant mechanism is a mechanical tool based on a single flexible component.
@anj000
@anj000 Год назад
3:19 "this is fun" combined with this dead unemotional voice had me cracking It sounds a bit like it was recorded separately, so I guess this is why I get that feeling.
@servnava6601
@servnava6601 Год назад
Another consideration with mechanical objects is that tolerances on the object itself are never consistent. Plastics shrink and stretch as they cool, filament is never precisely 3 or 1.75mm and all of those factors together can make a big difference in objects like this
@JohnBeak
@JohnBeak Год назад
We used to have these toys at kindergarten, iirc it was called Jovo. I would always construct the shape in a plane first before folding it into 3D. Teachers couldn't wrap their heads around that as the other kids never built anything more complex than a cube.
@Imthefake
@Imthefake Год назад
4:15 the most important bit in the video
@jinghengchia2201
@jinghengchia2201 Год назад
Love the Parker Square sleight of hand insert in this
@apokalypthoapokalypsys9573
@apokalypthoapokalypsys9573 Год назад
Can you make a video about the Császár polyhedron? It's not well-knownn outside of Hungary.
@XSpamDragonX
@XSpamDragonX Год назад
I tried so hard as a kid to make a shape that would do move and never found one
@opaltoralien4015
@opaltoralien4015 Год назад
My brain could not comprehend the movement of the grey, green and blue shape you had printed. For me, it was like if the walls of a house suddenly started shrinking and growing as you flexed it. Logically that is impossible and it is just moving/angling, but I genuinely could not visually comprehend what was going on, I had to take your word for it. I think it is because of how the concave and convex areas are arranged in a very unnatural looking shape I would have never encountered combined with the effects of lighting and plastic colours. The brain is neat like that.
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